This Hidden Danger Killed 68 People (American Eagle Flight 4184) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @DisasterBreakdown
    @DisasterBreakdown  Рік тому +95

    This video went out to my Patrons on Patreon Two Days before going out publicly. Consider joining here from £1 per month: www.patreon.com/DisasterBreakdown
    Twitter: twitter.com/Chloe_HowieCB

    • @genghis_connie
      @genghis_connie Рік тому +7

      Wishing you the very best with your surgery and healing!❤

    • @jamesteddystudios984
      @jamesteddystudios984 Рік тому +3

      We knew flight 4184 was the new one. Can the next one be Arrow Air flight 1285? Cool video by the way

    • @Gospel_weekly
      @Gospel_weekly Рік тому +8

      The weather report I thought was really well written, good job

    • @GrimFelArt
      @GrimFelArt Рік тому +5

      Off-topic from the video but your dress is so pretty and you chose a lovely lipstick colour to complement it!

    • @Gospel_weekly
      @Gospel_weekly Рік тому +1

      @@GrimFelArt so much different clothing from the first videos that he uploaded back at start of chamnel, go have
      A look

  • @JoeyFlyBoy
    @JoeyFlyBoy Рік тому +1158

    Imagine yourself on the first day of the job as a flight attendant, only for it to be tragically cut short within 24 hours. I cant help but feel sorry for Ms. Holberg

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 Рік тому +81

      You know someone in her family was probably worried about this very thing and they probably had terrible premonitions the rest of their lifes.

    • @jrt2792
      @jrt2792 Рік тому +30

      Aviation unfortunately has and always been a dangerous field. So many factors at play.

    • @tski3458
      @tski3458 Рік тому

      Shitiest lottery of them all.

    • @john2k24
      @john2k24 Рік тому +6

      @@jrt2792absolutely, even on the ground!

    • @RupertReynolds1962
      @RupertReynolds1962 Рік тому +36

      ​@@jrt2792It's still safer than driving to the airport!

  • @user-xz4ke3qw7w
    @user-xz4ke3qw7w Рік тому +414

    I am a retired mechanic/crew chief from a major US air carrier and have enjoyed crash analysis from two other you tube presenters. I stumbled into one of your videos a couple weeks ago and was blown away by the detail you place in your videos be it the weather, physics, or mechanical issues related to a particular incident. They are not only informative, but they teach as well. Thank you for your time and effort into very well produced videos.

    • @Andrew-iv5dq
      @Andrew-iv5dq Рік тому +15

      I highly recommend UA-cam videos from Mentour Pilot. Very detailed and NO dramatic filler like “Little did they know that today would be different…”. Also the creator, Petter, is a 737 pilot and trainer for Ryan Air.

    • @AntheaFlattus
      @AntheaFlattus Рік тому +19

      @@Andrew-iv5dq I watch Mentour Pilot, Green Dot Aviation and Disaster Breakdown. Those are totally the best available!

    • @Ali_D_Katt
      @Ali_D_Katt 10 місяців тому +15

      ​@@Andrew-iv5dqI find the foreshadowing refreshing. I find her style brings the more human element into the accident report. I love mentour pilot but he has a different style. I can watch a break down of the same incident on both channels and take something different from each.

    • @Lisa-vd5vu
      @Lisa-vd5vu 9 місяців тому +2

      @@AntheaFlattus you should check out 74 Gear too. Kelsey is a 747 pilot and is informative and entertaining.

    • @m.t.8181
      @m.t.8181 8 місяців тому +1

      The technical aspect added to the investigation make this channel unique better. Thanks for the excelente work.

  • @robertmcghintheorca49
    @robertmcghintheorca49 Рік тому +553

    38:21 NASA found this out rather ingeniously. They took a Boeing KC-135 StratoTanker and modified its refuelling boom to spray water. Then, while in flight, an ATR-72 was flown right behind the StratoTanker. And yellow dye in the water was able to show where the ice was most prone to forming.

    • @AlphaGarg
      @AlphaGarg Рік тому +36

      Dyes - nice! That's the same way feline optometrists figure out if a cat's sclera (I think that's what the transparent bit is called);is wounded or has dead tissue.

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Рік тому +53

      @@AlphaGarg Yep had that done with my beautiful Burmese pussycat who has since passed😢- It was an expensive process but fortunately they didn’t have to fly a KC135 in front of him which would’ve been traumatic and even more expensive and also I would’ve had to sit out on the wing of a following aircraft holding him 😂

    • @andrewdillon7837
      @andrewdillon7837 Рік тому

      WTF has that got to do with an aircrash ,,You flexing your flash cat , what a fuckwit@@AlphaGarg

    • @kuro9410_ilust
      @kuro9410_ilust Рік тому +24

      that must be a nerve wracking experience for the ATR pilots

    • @SilveniumTheDrifter
      @SilveniumTheDrifter Рік тому +3

      Hope they got lots of hazard pay!

  • @ricomartins_
    @ricomartins_ 3 місяці тому +102

    Coming here because of the recent disaster in Brazil (august 9th, 2024) involving an ATR aircraft from VoePass airlines that killed 62 people. Thanks a looot for this video!!!!

    • @minarossi4991
      @minarossi4991 2 місяці тому +1

      Same. RIP all brothers and sister in these flights, so so sad

  • @theautistictransitfan
    @theautistictransitfan Рік тому +612

    It’s always a good day when Disaster Breakdown uploads a 50 minute video, and you best believe I’m watching every second of it

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  Рік тому +75

      Second biggest video on the channel here to be exact!

    • @PigInDebt
      @PigInDebt Рік тому +3

      Noice

    • @HTX713W
      @HTX713W Рік тому +9

      Currently watching this before I board a plane

    • @Lee_Lee1776
      @Lee_Lee1776 Рік тому +6

      Definitely was worth the wait!

    • @malcolmwhite6588
      @malcolmwhite6588 Рік тому +8

      @@DisasterBreakdown Loved your weather reporter Chloe - where did you find them from ? they are a great presenter ;almost as good as you! LOL

  • @periwinkleadidas
    @periwinkleadidas Рік тому +245

    this is the first time i’ve heard pilots organize against airlines like this, kudos to them and to you for highlighting their work!!!!

    • @zestyquestman8378
      @zestyquestman8378 Рік тому +27

      you'd be surprised at how often pilots organise, the pilots union has such pressure on the industry it is one of the most important organisations in american aviation

    • @witchy90210
      @witchy90210 Рік тому

      @@zestyquestman8378 without them airlines lose money FAST and they arent simple to replace.

    • @ivanpetrov5185
      @ivanpetrov5185 10 місяців тому +5

      What about the mandatory COVID jabs. Didn't the pilots organize back then? How many of them lost their jobs for not taking the jabs.

    • @witchy90210
      @witchy90210 10 місяців тому +20

      @@ivanpetrov5185 Those are very good questions that you make that sound like we should answer in a way that you want us to. But did they? Maybe you can tell us about that. At least I dont remember there being a pilot strike over vaccinations let alone mass firings over it. In fact i would assume many lost their jobs due to the massive decrease in air travel at the time. Why they still havent been hired back I can only attribute to company greed.

    • @durdleduc8520
      @durdleduc8520 10 місяців тому +3

      @@ivanpetrov5185 they said it was the first time they heard of it. what did you expect? "ohhh right i forgot?" they weren't watching your news station, dude.

  • @hendersonribeirobrandina2120
    @hendersonribeirobrandina2120 3 місяці тому +30

    We had an accident in Brazil today that's very similar and many people are saying it happened for the same reasons as flight 4184. We can't say anything yet but it's hard to deny the similarities. The weather conditions here were bad and we saw the plane falling like a brick from the sky in a vertical line in a full stall and spinning flat around itself (unusual). The nose was alined with the horizon. Completly uncontrolable... Horrible disaster.... Sad day here.

  • @FN_FAL_4_ever
    @FN_FAL_4_ever Рік тому +81

    I was a high school freshman when the news broke about the crash; seeing the degree of fragmentation and the crater on the TV was eye opening, but when they showed the hundreds of wooden stakes with marker flags that denoted a body or body fragment, it left a indelible impression on me that remains today. This was my first time learning just how deadly ice is to aircraft.

    • @tedbell4416
      @tedbell4416 9 місяців тому +1

      It was a nice fragmentation and quite normal for the events of the circumstances inconvenience

  • @robm3074
    @robm3074 Рік тому +126

    I take away a couple of things with this video. My heart goes out to the poor girl that was on her 1st day as a flight attendant. I just retired after over 50 years as a flight attendant and came home with very very few incidents over my career let alone an accident. I am truly very grateful. More important though is we look at the record for aviation incidents or accidents over the last 30 years. We have come a long way in this industry especially in the last 20 years. The industry has become very safe and hopefully we'll continue to be safe as this is the first priority.

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy Рік тому +5

      You were a flight attendant into your 70s?

    • @Skyhawk1998
      @Skyhawk1998 Рік тому +6

      Flight attendants have had a big role in the safety of aviation, too. Knowing you had such a long career without a major accident puts into perspective that kind of responsibility - decades could go by without much of note but some FAs then find themselves the hero of the story with no warning.

    • @tracycolvin7789
      @tracycolvin7789 Рік тому +13

      Congratulations on 50 years..from one flight attendant to another. I retired after 30 years.🙂

    • @conditionallyunconditional5691
      @conditionallyunconditional5691 Рік тому +4

      Agreed. I experienced a few close calls..loss of power, a landing gear malfunction, several bird strikes and a near miss air collision in Nigerian airspace. We had superb aircrew, strict aircraft maintenance, excellent airfield management. Military airlift had higher standards, in my opinion.

    • @ktnorwegian2502
      @ktnorwegian2502 Рік тому

      ​conditionallyunconditional5691p machine m m m m m m m😅😊😊😊😊

  • @zinac420
    @zinac420 Рік тому +174

    Thank you for covering this crash. Happened roughly 1 hour from where I grew up. The fact that people KNEW about the issues with icing is absolutely heartbreaking.
    The weather segments are a favorite of mine, really well done :)

    • @shaund9759
      @shaund9759 Рік тому +3

      same

    • @richardkeilig4062
      @richardkeilig4062 Рік тому +2

      I am sad for all on board this plane.

    • @isalin3429
      @isalin3429 Рік тому +4

      same ty chloe!!!

    • @Jens-Viper-Nobel
      @Jens-Viper-Nobel 8 місяців тому

      That people knew and the BEA was even trying to make it pilot error to protect their French aircraft production is not what I would call heartbreaking. I'm furious at people who deliberately risked the lives of passengers for the sake of the almighty $. And in this incident they killed 68 people for that reason. The fact is that a number of recommendations after crashes are not adressed by the aircraft manufactorers if they can avoid it because it cost money to correct the flaw. It is in those cases never adressed until another crash occurs that will kill even more people until the accumulated death tally becomes to high to ignore for even the most hardline $ seekers that anything is done. And then only because they don't want to miss out on further sales. Not because peoples lives are of any importance to them even if they will always claim that to be their primary concern. But somehow their actions and explanations always have a very eerie resemplance to the Göebbels manner of adressing issues from the pulpit.

  • @TheShowblox
    @TheShowblox 3 місяці тому +39

    An ATR 72 crashed yesterday, August 9, 2024, 61 dead. R.I.P.

    • @BlingtingSam
      @BlingtingSam 3 місяці тому +3

      Same in Nepal. These planes are easy to stall death traps.

    • @1compaqedr8
      @1compaqedr8 3 місяці тому +3

      @@BlingtingSam not same. that was absolute pilot error from misconfiguring the power settings mistakenly.

    • @arthurdefreitaseprecht2648
      @arthurdefreitaseprecht2648 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@BlingtingSamin Nepal there where multiple errors in succession, approaching the runway in a non-standard procedure, wrong propeller setting, tunnel vision... The accident from Brazil is still under investigation

    • @GoianoAmazonia
      @GoianoAmazonia 27 днів тому

      @@arthurdefreitaseprecht2648 The preliminary report in Brazil indicates error as well, as in a failure to properly respond to airframe icing, loss of speed and performance, and finally, a stall

  • @existentialcrisisactor
    @existentialcrisisactor Рік тому +108

    These long form documentaries are amazing! I love and appreciate the depth you go into to help understand the variables involved with these disasters.Thank you so much for the hard work you put in!

  • @darkfox2076
    @darkfox2076 Рік тому +271

    Just wanted to say it's amazing how far you've come, Chloe. Really enjoyed this one, especially the weather report. Thanks for all your efforts to keep me entertained. Can't wait for the next one ❤

    • @DisasterBreakdown
      @DisasterBreakdown  Рік тому +48

      Thank you so much!

    • @JuakoRanger
      @JuakoRanger Рік тому +19

      ​@@DisasterBreakdownSame, Love your weather reports. Not only shows how much specific weather conditions can do to a flying metal cylinder, but it also gives a face to the channel in a way that's organic and entertaining to watch.
      Love your videos

    • @NettieKossart
      @NettieKossart Рік тому +17

      That dark blue lipstick slays! I wish I could pull it off. ❤

    • @herusaleron6793
      @herusaleron6793 9 місяців тому +4

      @@DisasterBreakdownabsolutely adore your weather reports chloe! gives a little light hearted break to the videos and they remind me of watching morning news and it’s just adorable!

    • @SwuaveWEB
      @SwuaveWEB 5 місяців тому

      Chloe is a girls name. The presenter in this video is clearly male. What?

  • @douglassjc
    @douglassjc 3 місяці тому +36

    It is too early to confirm, but yesterday's ATR72 accident in Brazil, which occurred in severe icing conditions, suggests that the ice issues may not have been fully addressed yet.

    • @breakinglousy1
      @breakinglousy1 3 місяці тому +1

      Maybe it was an old plane that still had the old de-icing system. Since developed countries keep selling their old outdated planes to underdeveloped countries, I wouldn't discount this. How old was Brazil's plane?

    • @BlackDiamondYoutub
      @BlackDiamondYoutub 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@breakinglousy1 from what I've read Voepass had updated icing systems. In that case the plane pitched down significantly, then pitched up and stalled into a flat spin. That would make you think if anything the ailerons iced over, or the pilot had a startle response to the aircraft losing altitude and pitched up to the point of stalling. Either way it doesn't seem to be the same as this flight.

    • @regionalflyer
      @regionalflyer 3 місяці тому

      It's not too early. This piece of junk just killed even more people because it can't handle ice. And anyone who disagrees is free to message me about it as a type rated ATR pilot with over 1,000 hours in that french POS

    • @Sokol10
      @Sokol10 2 місяці тому

      @@breakinglousy1 An ATR-72 500 manufactured in 2010 for - now defunct; Belle Air of Albânia, transferred in 2015 for Pelita Air Service of Indonésia, and for Voepass of Brazil in September 2022. No "developed countries" involved in their story, only "third world" countries.

  • @jetpilott2420
    @jetpilott2420 5 місяців тому +17

    As an airline pilot, I am very impressed by the way you dive into the details with 0 errors. Nicely done. 👏🏻

  • @AndrewJones-cx6kl
    @AndrewJones-cx6kl Рік тому +98

    I was flying home from Dallas to Minnesota when that plane went in. It shocked me. Hundreds of those ATR ‘s flew out of DFW back then. Very rare to see an aircraft the turn over and dive in like that. It was very bad weather that day indeed.

    • @NovejSpeed3
      @NovejSpeed3 Рік тому +5

      Facts! DFW had ATRs everywhere!!! I loved how they would turn into the gate, giving jetbridge access to the rear pax door and could continue turning out, requiring no pushback.

    • @yungblade7
      @yungblade7 3 місяці тому

      Imagine your life being determined by weather on a flight. Unacceptable.

  • @georgittesingbiel219
    @georgittesingbiel219 Рік тому +57

    I would be totally freaking out when the plane started to roll. Those poor passengers! RIP TO EVERYONE.😢

  • @ThePilot_USA
    @ThePilot_USA 3 місяці тому +32

    And as incredible as it is, August 2024 yet another ATR-72 crashes in Brazil where videos of the accident give clues of a stalled aircraft coming out of the clouds indicating the possibility (too early to tell as of today) of a repeat of the same accident. 🤔

    • @versianimoreira
      @versianimoreira 3 місяці тому +3

      Sad true 😢

    • @juliusnepos6013
      @juliusnepos6013 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah

    • @yungblade7
      @yungblade7 3 місяці тому

      These planes are not good. They have the #1 crash rating. It baffles me how they continue to use a plane that's incapable of flying the way it should. These should never be flown again

    • @ThePilot_USA
      @ThePilot_USA 3 місяці тому +1

      @@yungblade7 none of the turbopro planes are certified to fly in "severe" icing conditions, which appears to be the case on the brazilian accident.

  • @paulkelley3901
    @paulkelley3901 Рік тому +57

    i was going to make a long, drawn out comment on just how great your videos have become, but seeing how so many of your viewers have already done so i just want to say two things. first, i sincerely hope all goes well for you with your surgery. i hope your recovery goes smoothly and you can get back to these videos quickly.
    secondly, and if i may be so bold...royal blue is absolutely your color! take care and be well!

  • @charlesschneiter
    @charlesschneiter Рік тому +71

    Thanks Chloe for another very well put explanation of weather phenomena! As a very young ATP I had been in a similar situation on a SAAB 340. The only warning we got in the cockpit were a somewhat unexplained reduction in airspeed and a marked change in wind noise. I immediately requested a descent clearance and started my descent at the same time. Only later did I learn, that the 340 was susceptible to tail-plane icing in conditions where supercooled moisture was present...
    Your weather report as always is spot on and even for an old ATP interesting to learn form. Keep up the good work - much appreciated!

    • @eduardosantabaya5348
      @eduardosantabaya5348 11 місяців тому

      Sol Líneas Aéreas, Flight 5428 crashed near Prahuaniyeu, Argentina after severe icing, a SAAB 340A, same previous symptoms ua-cam.com/video/I1EIEtSbyZc/v-deo.html (it's in Spanish)

    • @burncycle4621
      @burncycle4621 10 місяців тому

      X to doubt. Nobody calls themselves "an ATP".

    • @charlesschneiter
      @charlesschneiter 10 місяців тому +3

      @@burncycle4621 aha... ya even know what ATP means? Care to offer a better abbreviation? 🤔

    • @bbgun061
      @bbgun061 10 місяців тому +2

      It sounds like you reacted appropriately to maintain control of your airplane. Good piloting!

    • @charlesschneiter
      @charlesschneiter 10 місяців тому

      @@bbgun061Thank you bbgun061!
      There, but for the grace of God, went I

  • @luisamartins4758
    @luisamartins4758 3 місяці тому +17

    ATR-72 had crashed in Brazil - 2024, Aug09. Ice conditions level 170.

  • @redbird444
    @redbird444 11 місяців тому +50

    Former Simmons pilot here. Well done presentation and factually accurate. One aspect that contributed to the loss of control was the ATR’s excellent autopilot. It could mask control issues until it couldn’t handle them anymore leaving the pilots with unflyable control forces upon sudden disconnection. The rudder also is limited at moderate speed rendering it near useless should it be needed above its limiting speed. This crash was another example of big business putting profit and loss ahead of safety.
    Miss you Sandi. 😢 1:02

    • @airstation2030
      @airstation2030 9 місяців тому +2

      To Sandi Modaff.....with the wry smile and giggly laugh....

  • @green-ista1460
    @green-ista1460 Рік тому +31

    Dear Chloe, the quality of this video is exceptional. The amount of detail and background work that has gone into is very very impressive and your dedication for communicating correct information is commendable!

  • @L1zPl4y
    @L1zPl4y Рік тому +57

    Hey Chloe, just wanted to say that I love your calm narration style and research/production quality - they should let you take over as producer of the "ACI"/"Mayday" TV show as well at this point :D

  • @rebekahvillon4245
    @rebekahvillon4245 Рік тому +99

    I LOVE the weather report segments - it's such a charming and effective way to present the information. Great job!

  • @spacecat85
    @spacecat85 Рік тому +28

    Chloe getting excited about science just made my garbage evening much better. Thanks also for the great explanations as usual!

  • @Butchcavalier
    @Butchcavalier Рік тому +31

    I remember giving a short presentation about supercooled moisture in physics class to improve my abysmal grade! Thank you very much for your in-depth work, it's videos like these that remind me how excited I actually am about physics and the like now that there's not the looming threat of an exam attached to it.

  • @RiftWalker111
    @RiftWalker111 Рік тому +16

    As someone who lives in the caribbean and have personally flown in a ATR before I never knew of it history, thank you for sharing once again.

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 Рік тому +66

    A very common arrangement in Europe too.I flew from Helsinki to Marieheim in the Aland archipelago and on the surface it looked like a Fin Air plane but once aboard the crew uniform and safety cards revealed I was actually on an Estonian airline called,if I remember correctly, Nordica.British Airways had loads of these sub airways running feeder and local European services for them; City Jet, Logan Air,GB Airways to name but a few.The planes were all painted up to look like BA owned them.

    • @ZombieSazza
      @ZombieSazza Рік тому +3

      We’ve got one in Scotland like that, Logan Air normally runs the regional routes like the Outer Hebrides islands to mainland Scotland, and Orkney/Shetland flights to/from mainland, but one of the sub flights is London/Newcastle to Inverness/Aberdeen/Glasgow/Edinburgh by British Airways, Logan Air can only do a few of these per week but British Airways can do the flights from Newcastle and London every day, several times a day, so our smaller Scottish national flight provider (and the only Scottish flight provider) is actually able to fulfil the flight needs of us Scots!
      Nice to see Logan Air get a mention, we’re a small country so it’s nice to see them get mentioned!!

    • @nonniperkl6273
      @nonniperkl6273 10 місяців тому

      Have to say to hearing you national airliner dropped about planes that have these war survived the cold here was bit unsettling. Have flown these bad boys many times

  • @SolsticeV
    @SolsticeV Рік тому +29

    Today I learned that SLDs have the power to bring aircraft down in a matter of seconds. The in depth explanation from the weather segment makes this channel stand out from the others! Keep up the amazing work!

    • @bbgun061
      @bbgun061 10 місяців тому +2

      Not seconds, but perhaps minutes. The pilots in this accident continued flying in icing conditions, at a speed that was too slow. They ignored the warning signs and did nothing to escape the icing conditions. The captain even mentioned that he was concerned about stalling, yet he did nothing about it.

  • @vitorsilva2478
    @vitorsilva2478 3 місяці тому +12

    An atr-72 just crashed yesterday in Brasil, and we have a SImEG of severe ice, he went to a stall.

    • @yungblade7
      @yungblade7 3 місяці тому +1

      The plane shouldn't be flying

  • @greenthing99100
    @greenthing99100 Рік тому +29

    Great video Chloe, I'm sorry I can't support you financially because I live on a pension due to motor neurone disease (very much a one-way ticket - people think MND/ALS is rare but one's lifetime chance of acquiring MND is 1 in 300, however I work as a scientist volunteer and we are getting closer to cures for neurodegenerative diseases which will be great news when we get there). I can support you by telling you that you are doing a fantastic job, and you will be in my thoughts and prayers when you are having the surgery and recovering from it. Love from Rick

  • @zikalokof1challenge414
    @zikalokof1challenge414 3 місяці тому +11

    Just chills man, another ATR went down today and people are speculating to be icing of the wings... Did the hidden danger strike again?

  • @lucasdasilvaribeiro8918
    @lucasdasilvaribeiro8918 3 місяці тому +10

    I'm from Brazil and there was a crash near São Paulo this morning that seams to share some similarity with this disaster 😢

  • @zetti9
    @zetti9 3 місяці тому +23

    We from Brazil, yesterday, just have an similar accident, which 61 people died. So sad to see that it's not that so incommun. We really felt a lot for this accident in 1994

    • @TUPELO_HUNNY
      @TUPELO_HUNNY 3 місяці тому +6

      I dont understand why a regional airline in Brazil would fly an ATR72 considering Brazil manufacturers the Embraer which is personally my favorite airframe. RIP to the 61 innocent people who lost their lives. Greed is the downfall of humanity

    • @dronevan
      @dronevan 3 місяці тому +4

      @@TUPELO_HUNNY brazilians tend to export their best and use the rest... this goes for food and other things.

    • @Sisifo628
      @Sisifo628 3 місяці тому +2

      @@TUPELO_HUNNYEmbraer does not have turboprops planes in its portfolio, only turbofans. It happens that for distances up to 500Nm turboprops are more fuel efficient. This is why airlines chose this kind of airplane in shorter routes.

    • @TUPELO_HUNNY
      @TUPELO_HUNNY 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Sisifo628 yes i know

  • @kayinoue2497
    @kayinoue2497 Рік тому +37

    PHENOMENAL video, Chloe! This is one of those watershed air accidents that completely changed air safety in the US. Very well done. And good luck with surgery at the end of the year~! Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.

  • @stephanie8560
    @stephanie8560 Рік тому +12

    This video combines many of my favorite things: aircraft investigation, meteorology, copious and tasteful use of the color blue, and my favorite weather lady. Keep up the good work!
    Also: this channel is the only one I can watch in bed with my headphones off when my husband's sleeping, as he finds the creator's voice soothing and says it helps him sleep.

  • @R8andGT3Fan
    @R8andGT3Fan Рік тому +18

    The latest, longer videos turned out to be amazing...really hyped for the next episodes!
    The supercooled water explanation was *super* interesting. I didn't even know about that phenomenon.

    • @NiekEdeling
      @NiekEdeling Рік тому +3

      supercool.. how cool a phenomenon! I was with my camper in Switserland /Swiss and it was freezing cold. When I took my ten liter watercontainer out to make a cup of coffee, the water still was fluid. The moment I put the container on the ground... in a flash the ten liters froze to one big block of ice! Incredible (for me at that moment); now I understand :-)

  • @nepumukgaming5797
    @nepumukgaming5797 11 місяців тому +5

    This has got to be the best Aviation Channel on UA-cam right now!

  • @bernhardjordan9200
    @bernhardjordan9200 3 місяці тому +12

    It just happened again 8/9/24 in Vinhedo-SP/Brazil
    68 souls on bord , it fell from the sky like a helicopter seed ,

  • @8LJ8
    @8LJ8 3 місяці тому +7

    Here after the tragic crash of ATR 72 in Brazil, flight number 2Z2283. It could be the same reason to crash as it happened to American Eagle. Did they put any new better system on ATR for de-icing since 1994?

    • @BirdieRumia
      @BirdieRumia 3 місяці тому +5

      According to Wikipedia, yes, but possibly not enough. They made the de-icing boots bigger but they're still not very big, for example...

  • @andrect7030
    @andrect7030 3 місяці тому +28

    Who is here because of the Voepass airlines crash in Brasil?

  • @jennywright8883
    @jennywright8883 Рік тому +10

    Chloe, off topic but...I could listen to you speak for hours! (And I have because I have binged your channel for months). Your research never ceases to amaze. Thank you.😊🛫

  • @XenoDonut
    @XenoDonut Рік тому +17

    Another great video! Chloe's voice is always so soothing too :)

  • @yosefthomas804
    @yosefthomas804 3 місяці тому +9

    An ATR-72 Just crashed today in Vinhedo, São Paulo, Brazil. Perhaps for the same reason 😢

  • @HostNayner
    @HostNayner Рік тому +8

    A bit late watching this, BUT, another AMAZING breakdown of this accident!!! Thank you so much again. You do a spectacular job and deserve many more views!

  • @skyservenews7605
    @skyservenews7605 Рік тому +6

    I enjoy your videos as they are top of the line of all of those description videos that are out there on UA-cam also I have been a flight attendant for 25 years. Retired now I enjoy your presentation very much as it’s very inclusive of all of the videos that are out there. You are one of the best presenters I have heard and seen. Keep it up!😅

  • @supershadowman6478
    @supershadowman6478 Рік тому +18

    I must say I'm always very impressed when you do your videos and the weather parts just make me smile I've never flown on the plane but after watching your videos it has really really put a lot of anxiety at ease And helped me understand how much really does go into aviation and I must thank you😊

  • @AstraSystem
    @AstraSystem Рік тому +5

    I love the info about weather that you've been including in your videos. Stumbled across your channel a couple of weeks ago and have been binging videos. You cover a lot of accidents that I haven't heard of before!

  • @celerychild6161
    @celerychild6161 Рік тому +7

    I love how excited Chloe is about the cool science behind nucleation, because it is honestly so interesting

  • @Ryanboy2020
    @Ryanboy2020 Рік тому +9

    Great breakdown! This accident changed a lot. I live not far from Roselawn and have visted the accident site. Its very eerie.

  • @rilmar2137
    @rilmar2137 Рік тому +9

    I reaally love the weather report segments, keep up the good work, Chloe!

  • @dmich108
    @dmich108 10 місяців тому +4

    Hi Chloe
    Wanted to drop a line to let you know how terrific, informative and fascinating your videos are. All your hard work produces great results. Thank you so much. Dee 🎉

  • @bertrandthomasflylover2306
    @bertrandthomasflylover2306 Рік тому +6

    As a fan of aviation since I can't remember, and today an Ultra Light/Lsa pilot I've been interested in airplanes accident analysis. Not for obscure reasons, but for the knowledge and lessons to be learned by any pilot who wants to live a long life!
    First it started on tv documentaries, then YT arrived and today there's a certain amount of Tubers treating of this matter. Some are good, some aren't. Well I just discovered yours and I'm really impressed by the quality and accuracy of your production wich I place among the best I've seen. I'm french and I was delited by your pure English accent and your great diction, I laughed with the weather presentation, which was very detailed by the way. GOOD JOB, I've now plenty of others to watch !

  • @BigWhoopZH
    @BigWhoopZH Рік тому +12

    Now I know what's on TV tonight. Thanks for the great effort you put in your videos. Top notch!

  • @Oznej
    @Oznej Рік тому +5

    Splendid video as always, Chloe! Very interesting and quite frightening subject. I really appreciate the level of detail and thoroughness of your research, and the quality of your videos are becoming so professional. Best of luck for January!
    Also - that eye makeup is on point!

  • @codymiller4771
    @codymiller4771 Рік тому +6

    Hello from Boston!! Watched a video of yours few weeks ago, immediately addicted!! Your voice, the way you break down everything, such fun, interesting videos. Cant get enough!! Keep up the amazing work, as I await your next vid ❤

  • @timeandnourishment1961
    @timeandnourishment1961 Рік тому +9

    Another brilliant video, Chloe. The weather report brightens an otherwise dismal story. Thanks very much! ❤

  • @debbiekerr3989
    @debbiekerr3989 Рік тому +4

    I just found your channel it was in my feed and I watched 3 videos. These are some of the very best investigations I have ever seen! I subscribed because of how detailed the information is.

  • @chrisescobar4199
    @chrisescobar4199 Рік тому +4

    I've been watching your videos for quite a while now and this is my first time commenting. Just wanted to say your channel is one of my top favorites. The depth you go into the explanations of these crashes is remarkable. Your ability to really capture peoples minds is incredible. Thanks for doing what you do Chloe, Ill be watching. 😊

  • @bibblybobbly9951
    @bibblybobbly9951 Рік тому +24

    Always great to see weather correspondent Elanor MacCloud 💙

  • @trishayamada807
    @trishayamada807 Рік тому +8

    I used to fly frequently on these American eagle Atrs Chicago/Milwaukee. I had some frightful flights on them. I remember once in a heavy snow I was sure we were going to go off the runway. We did get airborne and to our destination, but everyone was rattled. I was so happy when they stopped using them.

  • @jackiehoward7300
    @jackiehoward7300 Рік тому +6

    Hi Chloe. I really enjoyed your video. You always do such an awesome job with your video production. I enjoy watching you so much . Hope all goes well with your surgery.

  • @LuchinoBruttomesso
    @LuchinoBruttomesso Рік тому +14

    These videos are becoming documentaries now,great job keeping this up

  • @dmtsza
    @dmtsza 3 місяці тому +7

    Tragically, another accident involving an ATR-72 occurred today (August 9, 2024) in Brazil, claiming 62 lives (ua-cam.com/video/8FbkkVE5rW8/v-deo.html). While the exact cause of the accident is still under investigation, initial reports suggest that icing, due to weather conditions, is a likely factor.

  • @merlindsbest
    @merlindsbest Рік тому +2

    Ma'am, I just wanted to say I've always appreciated the depth to which you explore these incidents. Your tone, delivery and thoughtfullness make these videos a pleasure to watch. I'm glad you've become more comfortable in front of the camera as well. Best of luck with your upcoming surgery.

  • @realoldbeardedguy
    @realoldbeardedguy 9 місяців тому +3

    Dear Chloe Howie.
    I really do love Your channel because of several things.
    All the immense work You put forth regarding,( in lack of better words, )all the facts, every little spec og information, You have to "hunt down" regarding what kind of aircraft it were, crew, weather, in depht analycis around the nature leading up (down) to a crash / incident, ie. Ice. I'm a subscriber for several channels on UA-cam, but I must say Your channel is simply one of the best. Thankyou!

  • @angela20377
    @angela20377 Рік тому +4

    I usually watch videos at 125% or 150% speed but you have such a soothing cadence and delivery that I just enjoy your videos on normal speed. Much love and another great video!
    ETA: yaaaaaas! another weather report!

  • @PauperJ
    @PauperJ Рік тому +16

    It's so nice that your local tv station's meteorologist helped you in the production of this video. Thank you DBTV!

  • @stuarthumphrey1787
    @stuarthumphrey1787 Рік тому +9

    Another fantastic episode. Really enjoyed the weather report as it helps understand what went on. Can't wait to see the next video😊

  • @OfMoachAndMayhem
    @OfMoachAndMayhem 3 місяці тому +7

    Sadly, it appears this exact same scenario has cost 61 lives down in Brazil today (as of this commentary posting) - Wx Conditions were present, with severe icing SIGMETs and all, which may have been why an exactly alike ATR-72 was filmed this afternoon coming down in an unsurvivable flat-spin. It crashed in a residential area, where fortunately it did not hit anyone on the ground. A number of houses were damaged though, so it could have been an even worse disaster if not for a little "luck" (if you can call it that, in such a dreadful day)
    Now the questions: WHY were they flying an ATR through reported severe icing conditions? What else might have happened to put the plane in that position to begin with? And what else went wrong that no recovery was possible? Was it really the same case, or just strangely alike circumstances surrounding something else?
    We'll have to wait for the investigation reports... Until then, much head-scratching and sadness for all the victims and their families. RIP

    • @ellicel
      @ellicel 3 місяці тому +2

      The one comfort to be found in the tragic aftermath of these horrific crashes is how the industry learns and evolves so that future lives can be spared. If the investigation into today's incident reveals that the manufacturer hasn't done enough to safeguard the planes and the regulatory agencies haven't done enough to ensure compliance with previous findings, if essentially it's just the same thing over again that would be so heartbreaking. If the lessons learned at the cost of precious lives lost were ignored, there should be outrage.

  • @federicoprice2687
    @federicoprice2687 7 місяців тому +2

    Chloe, I'm still catching up with your videos and only just watched this one - which confirms my view that your output ranks at 5* level in terms of the quality of research, detail, logic, presentation, narration, balance, tact and respect and visual support. Truly excellent in every respect, and therefore textbook level in terms of teaching lessons learned - in no small way helping us all to understand the minutiae and intricacies of aviation, and the great efforts that must continue to be made in improving safety. Brilliant video, once again, for which many thanks.

  • @sydneywhittington9563
    @sydneywhittington9563 Рік тому +3

    yessss weather chloe is back! i also dont mind waiting for these longer videos. outstanding work, please keep it up!! this is my favorite channel!

  • @sasquatchkiddo3720
    @sasquatchkiddo3720 Рік тому +6

    I didn't even watch it yet but i just have to express my excitement at there being a 50 minutes video AAAAAAAA YES
    ETA: Chloe weather reports are also becoming one of my new favorite things and that blue is awesome

  • @johnmichaelrichards
    @johnmichaelrichards Рік тому +8

    Another excellent documentary, Chloe. Thank you. Love the reappearance of the DB weather girl.

  • @planeoldsimp272
    @planeoldsimp272 Рік тому +6

    Thanks for the amazing video Chloe :) this has to be by far one of my most favorite videos that you made, it would be nice if you could look into more Ghana based crashes

  • @muirgenmonet
    @muirgenmonet Рік тому +9

    Thank you so much for the video Chloe! I loved your weather report- you did a fantastic job breaking down the science and making it entertaining and informative.
    I also want to laud the American Eagle pilots like Stephen who acted as whistleblowers, even to the point of handing out leaflets at the airport and standing up to management.

  • @missmelodius
    @missmelodius Рік тому +3

    Thank you for taking the time and care to create this excellent video. It is one of your very best.

  • @adamwaters5016
    @adamwaters5016 Рік тому +6

    Chloe, You have been on fire. I really enjoyed your meteorology and thermal dynamics lesson. I am so proud of you. You have really been great at coming out and being comfortable with yourself and abilities. You are amazing on camera. Keep up that amazing work. You are the highlight of my week and I am so grateful to have been with you on this channel and watching your grow from the ground floor. Its so awesome to be a small part of it. You have some serious talent. I could see you working for the BBC or major networks and doing research.

  • @Tiger-Baby
    @Tiger-Baby Рік тому +5

    Forgive any typos as I'm partially blind due to facial injuries right now, I was lucky enough to catch sight of you before it started though. I'm so please when creators pop out from behind the narration and we get to see then.
    So, hello!
    Keep the little cut-ons coming. Listening is all I get to do lately. Gone further I get my sight back soon.

  • @youregonnaattackthem
    @youregonnaattackthem Рік тому +4

    This channel is so so so good. A perfect example of the best of what the Internet can be.

  • @nancyleehampton8
    @nancyleehampton8 Рік тому +9

    @disasterbreakdown
    Your health is always number one - videos can always wait. Please don’t let anyone pressure you or cause you to feel you’re letting viewers down. Get the rest you need in the beginning or it will be a longer road to recovery (and I have zero medical expertise - just a “fan”)💕💕

  • @how_about_naw
    @how_about_naw Рік тому +6

    Best of luck for the surgery! Thanks for all the great work you do x

  • @MLayne
    @MLayne Рік тому +2

    I'm absolutely loving these longer videos. Thank you for all the work put into them! Good luck on your surgery and wishing you a very speedy recovery.

  • @LemonLadyRecords
    @LemonLadyRecords Рік тому +6

    Ty for this fascinating and educational doc! It helped me put possible things together for a GA icing crash that killed 4 of my family members, although who knows, and they weren't in a holding pattern. Anyway, it was said that they hit a "sudden" blizzard on approach to an extremely high ski resort in Colorado, at night, in winter. I lived in the Colo mtns and there's no "sudden" blizzards. But they could have flown into sudden supercooled large droplets, having already made the terrible decision to fly into a storm, at night, in the mountains. The crash was witnessed and the plane tumbled down the entire runway, so they could have passed through the droplets on descent, and then had no way to control for the wind on landing, or w/e. Regardless, the pilot, my cousin, stacked the Swiss cheese model that night, with no room for any issues.
    I wish I knew more about my cousins' crash, as I got the news 3rd hand, from my mom, who was not the most accurate storyteller. People (the media) were very suspicious of the supercooled droplet thing, when the AE 4184 report came out. So it wouldn't have even been on the radar for my cousin's crash, plus a GA accident wouldn't have had the investigation of a newsworthy commercial flight.
    I knew little about aviation in 1978, and time has scrambled the details as I heard them. Too many have lost their lives to icing. Flying in bad winter weather made me very anxious ever after, and I avoided GA and commuters, esp after the AE crash. My cousins' crash caused fear that kept me from becoming a pilot later on, when I developed a real love of flying and interest in aviation. Too bad I didn't know all the things about aviation I know now, tks to great aviation channels like this, back when becoming a pilot was still possible.

  • @patriciatreslove4449
    @patriciatreslove4449 5 місяців тому +1

    I am just amazed at how much content and detail your videos contain, you should have millions of subscribers given the quality of your channel, this is one channel I have to support.

  • @SunsetLynxx
    @SunsetLynxx Рік тому +8

    I love these longer videos. And I love! The weather report you do. Also that blue lipstick is amazing bright goes perfectly with your dress. Keep up the great videos. I’m always looking forward to a new one.

  • @Edgar193
    @Edgar193 Рік тому +1

    I remember stumbling upon one of your older videos a while ago and thought, damn this is top content but would watch here and there. With some of your more recent uploads I realized it's that same bomb channel that used to do shorter style vids that stratch that itch for the mid 2000s episodes of mayday, seconds from disaster and similar Canadian produced discovery channel videos that I used to watch growing up, dubbed in Latin America.
    After the Avianca 11 and your two most recent videos, I was instantly hooked. the level of detail, research, respect for the subject matter, intrigue, editing, writing, music, and most importantly, sheer professionalism and passion, I must admit, this is some of the finest content I've ever stumbled upon my 14 years of being on UA-cam.
    Hats off to you Chloe, I couldn't feel more lucky to be presencing one of the finest content creators on this site, excercise her creative muscles and grow into such a talented creator. The weather segments you have added are just insane, I didn't think your videos could get even better. I'm an industrial engineer and although I did not study aerospace or aeronautical engineering, your content is fascinating. perfect ability to present technical and complex concepts without omitting important details, while balancing it with digestible explanations. I've learned so much and have greatly expanded my knowledge of what leads to these tragedies, which have fascinated me from a curious perspective since I was a kid.
    Thank you so much for all your hard work and dedication for all you do, really happy to have stumbled upon your channel, subscribed and I hope to contribute to the patreon soon, to support more amazing content like this. Wishing you the best of luck with the surgery and the recovery!! no need to stress out about the upload schedule, every video is a gem and a gift from you to the world. Keep killing it and being awesome 💪I'll be cheering you on all the way to the very top!

  • @lisastaven494
    @lisastaven494 Рік тому +5

    I learn so much from you. Love it when you do a weather report. Well done, thank you for all the great work. ❤

  • @justingerald
    @justingerald Рік тому +8

    You showing up on camera here to give analysis was great. I've been flying a lot for work but honestly your videos remind me it takes a lot of nonsense for a plane to go down especially in the present day.

  • @makaveli8979
    @makaveli8979 3 місяці тому +4

    Your research is breathtaking.
    I believe this issue made the current incident in Brazil where 62 souls were lost. Thank you for the video and may God bless both victims and their families

  • @darkriver4372
    @darkriver4372 Рік тому +1

    is this the best channel I've discovered in years? thank you so much for such detailed and very well made videos, I'm just glued to the screen and speakers.

  • @hadron2
    @hadron2 Рік тому +5

    These videos are getting better all the time. Excellent work!

  • @finnmacs
    @finnmacs Рік тому +18

    Horrifying how it ended so quickly. Great video Chloe!❤

  • @eriesara6424
    @eriesara6424 Рік тому +4

    Thank you so much for this, Chloe!

  • @caili999
    @caili999 3 місяці тому +7

    The disaster today in Brazil was similar it seems. Very sad.

  • @JoeyFlyBoy
    @JoeyFlyBoy 3 місяці тому +7

    Whos here because of an ATR 72 crash in brazil

  • @xSoNiCcRaCkErSx
    @xSoNiCcRaCkErSx Рік тому +1

    Wow, during the weather segment you not only explained SLDs in more detail, but also in an easier to understand way than they did in Mayday. I also learned a lot more of the fine details in pretty much the same time frame. Very well done yet again!

  • @roberttaylor6295
    @roberttaylor6295 5 місяців тому +1

    Chloe this video is out of the stratosphere in terms of professionalism and truly informative and a light shone on a scary topic. Thank you! Rob