Are De'Aaron Fox and the Sacramento Kings headed for a messy breakup?

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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
  • Fox 40's Sean Cunningham, Brenden Nunes from the Kings Pulse Podcast and The Kings Beat's James Ham join forces for coverage of the Sacramento Kings.
    Topics include a wild day in Sacramento as De'Aaron Fox's future with the team became murky. Can the Kings save the marriage between the franchise and it's best player? Who is to blame for the situation unraveling? There is plenty to discuss as the Kings are thrown into chaos days before the Feb. 6 NBA trade deadline.
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  • @bonecold4387
    @bonecold4387 8 днів тому +2

    I think the trade talk is to test the waters and hear the offers so we know what may or may not be possible going forward. You trade in the off season when you know the value of the draft pick(s) if you can. Let the season playout. If you are going to trade Fox then getting to the postseason and showing you can compete in the postseason would be more profitable for both parties.

  • @sjm357
    @sjm357 8 днів тому +1

    The Rihanna analogy was next level by Hammer LOL

  • @obryn
    @obryn 8 днів тому +3

    Watch Fox stay in Sacramento and all this is just pressure for Monte and Wes to get some help. Would be hilarious.

    • @SlickNick98
      @SlickNick98 8 днів тому +1

      I really hope thats the case we dont need anymore gaurds we need help on the wing like a good backup center and power forward

    • @marleylovesfilm
      @marleylovesfilm 7 днів тому

      I think people are missing a huge point that ever since the play in was created you don’t see a lot teams make big moves at the deadline, and if you do it’s teams swapping the same value. I really think that team have GMs have become more stingy, because all you really have to do is make the play in and you have a chance.

  • @babycakes9976
    @babycakes9976 8 днів тому +2

    The PG market is not great, especially, Houston until Summer. Youth of . Jalen Green a Merced product

  • @ayyWIlliamz
    @ayyWIlliamz 8 днів тому +19

    Monk has shown he thrives as the primary PG so Kings might just be better trading Fox

    • @adaml8324
      @adaml8324 8 днів тому +3

      Yeah I think so too. Fox is our biggest trade piece, will be interesting to see how it plays out

    • @regundam6630
      @regundam6630 8 днів тому +6

      @@adaml8324 Maybe Fox is our J-Will to Mike Bibby transition phase

    • @rp2808
      @rp2808 8 днів тому +1

      @@regundam6630not even close, Kings dont have a Webber and Peja to build around. Incredible amounts of delusion

    • @briangoodner8680
      @briangoodner8680 8 днів тому +5

      Sorry, Monk is not even close to the defender Fox is.

    • @richhrite88
      @richhrite88 8 днів тому

      @@regundam6630yea and J Will won a chip as a starting Point guard. Bibby who we traded him for didn’t.

  • @tylerpearson5454
    @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому +3

    San Antonio is a non starter for me

  • @bv32ification
    @bv32ification 8 днів тому +2

    I understand gauging fox’s value and going to his people directly so they aren’t blindsided but this was just bad timing. The team has been playing well under Doug, the vibes are back, and guys are locked in but now this just adds avoidable adversity. Unless the kings got a godfather offer for fox and could not pass on it-which does not appear to be the case, then it’s just incompetence at the top

  • @ianbent0n
    @ianbent0n 8 днів тому

    3:45 Wait wait Sean, does it really fall on the agent to bring them a deal? I have no idea how that works.

    • @rjonesy3480
      @rjonesy3480 8 днів тому

      Its more like they are working together to find solution everyone is happy with.

  • @muhamedcampara3383
    @muhamedcampara3383 8 днів тому +3

    It hurts a lot because Fox has been here a while, but the team as constructed can be really good without him. With a good package, this team could be a competitive playoff team imo

    • @rp2808
      @rp2808 8 днів тому +2

      Playoff team??? Sure, whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better

    • @muhamedcampara3383
      @muhamedcampara3383 8 днів тому +1

      @@rp2808easily could be, have you seen this teak play without Fox recently? And that’s without player we would get in return for him. Our best line is Monk, Keon, DDR, Keegan and Sabonis.

    • @tylerpearson5454
      @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому +1

      I agree

    • @JustinQuarles
      @JustinQuarles 8 днів тому +1

      @@muhamedcampara3383 Kings best wins this year are without Fox

  • @Waltvault
    @Waltvault 8 днів тому +6

    Super disappointing it has come to this. We have sacrificed a lot for him just to walk away

    • @billyhawj9150
      @billyhawj9150 8 днів тому

      When he signed with Clutch. Ya should’ve known

  • @dreamcage1801
    @dreamcage1801 8 днів тому

    Kings need a rim protector and it’s hard to find it nowadays

  • @tylerpearson5454
    @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому

    Can you say who that someone they had a trade nearly done for recently James?

  • @MrBendacorna
    @MrBendacorna 8 днів тому

    Lateral move. Bettering move. We need more balance and a deeper bench. SA makes sense.

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому

    The only caveat in terms of the Kings getting max value is if Fox plays hard ball and states he will only sign an extension with the Spurs!

  • @itsabouttthattime
    @itsabouttthattime 8 днів тому +1

    I love Fox but I'm sick of the podcasts and drama and being held hostage by LeBron's agent. If Fox wants to go, let him go.

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому +1

    News Flash: Rich Paul will propagate an image that he is looking out for both sides, but I feel the real truth is the majority of his mindset, is about getting the best chance for his client to be happy and get him a supermax deal in the next few years so he can cash in with his commission! He is not very interested in helping the Kings get a win - win out of the deal.

  • @tylerpearson5454
    @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому

    Miami: Herro, Jacquez, Highsmith, Kel El. I want 3 of those 4.

  • @thomasg8433
    @thomasg8433 8 днів тому

    This front office shouldn’t be making this decision. Not sure how they are not being held accountable by ownership which may be the bigger problem.

  • @valis14
    @valis14 8 днів тому +3

    Castle, Vassell, and Sochan ?!?!?! 😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣. It's Fox not Giannis! Oh man does Ham ham it up!!! Pop and R.C. would rather BURN the house down then do that deal and THEY WON'T because that's what dumb franchises do. The Spurs base LOVES Castle, and many think he has a chance to be a lot better than Fox is now, certainly on the defensive side, you know, the one that actually wins games in the playoffs. Certainly Castle already has more in his trophy case at this stage of his career than Fox ever did. The sort of trade Ham is proposing is what the Kings would do, the sort of personnel moves that got them into this mess in the first place. Yikes. Delusional much? Vassell and picks -- at best! Either that or satisfy yourselves with whatever package of Tari Eason and Reed Sheppard you get this summer from Houston. Zach LaVine -- good luck winning games with that. Kings gotta King...

    • @patconlon7835
      @patconlon7835 8 днів тому

      hambone also said jalen green -jabari smith--cam whitmore and picks for fox--what a talking head clown

    • @徐逸昊
      @徐逸昊 8 днів тому

      did you watch any game vassell played this year? vassell is a trash right now with his contract. even 5 pick + vassell won't be acceptable to kings. castle might be a better player defensively. Offensively his will never be even close to fox now

    • @valis14
      @valis14 8 днів тому

      @@徐逸昊Then you’re stuck w/Fox. There’s ZERO chance the Spurs will trade 5 1sts for Fox. ZERO. And it’s Fox who wants SA, SA didn’t go chasing Fox. Last year it was Trae Young, now it’s Fox. SA can afford to be patient, they don’t need to chase after Fox when they have potentially 3 lottery picks in a stacked draft this year. Hell Trae Young may become available again and he’s a much better passer and shooter than Fox, and a better team fit likely.
      Fox is an upgrade over Vassell-but not by much! Not really. Would rather have the big combo guard in Castle who can actually play BOTH sides of the ball and have him blossom into a Derrick White/Jrue Holiday type who actually wins playoff games than waste him to the Kings. If Fox won’t promise to resign, they can enjoy their Cam Whitmore/Reed Sheppard package w/a couple of late 1sts in the summer.

    • @Cheesehead2025
      @Cheesehead2025 8 днів тому

      What would you give up for Giannis?

  • @tonyfauci9963
    @tonyfauci9963 8 днів тому

    I imagine Houston or Miami is most likely

  • @tylerpearson5454
    @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому

    If it’s Houston? I want Sengun. That might be a lot. But that’s what I want. Amir Thompson would be nice as well….

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому

    If trading Fox is handled properly, the Kings can actually be a better team by acquiring multiple young players with star potential and getting the needed size and balancing this roster. By trading Fox, the chance of giving up the rest of the core is diminished.

  • @marks9444
    @marks9444 8 днів тому +2

    The Kings need to upgrade their length, but what wing could they get that's going to start over DeRozan or Keegs? A backup 4 won't move the needle. Maybe they could trade Fox for some yet-unkown marquee wing that could allow us to bring DeRozan off the bench and save him for the playoffs. I think that would actually make us better, even if we had to lose Fox in the process.

    • @georgewhite9153
      @georgewhite9153 8 днів тому +1

      You make DRoz the Starting SG, and Monk the PG. You can get a starting wing or a starting PF as Keegan can play either position.

    • @marks9444
      @marks9444 8 днів тому

      @georgewhite9153 True. That would help with size too.

  • @mellarx1277
    @mellarx1277 8 днів тому

    There's only one reason why Fox and his agent wants out, that is under Christie's sets he is relegated to a role player and as such he won't be able to showcase enough to get a max/supermax money.

  • @rogermassey7036
    @rogermassey7036 8 днів тому

    Hope we get at least a first rounder and a star player for him.

  • @tylerpearson5454
    @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому

    If Fox is moved, Sabonis? Monk? D-Bo? What with them?

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому +2

    Monte is desperate right now because he knows he is gone this summer if he does not hit a home run before the Feb 6 deadline! As he should be, but that is dangerous...they need to get a haul for him if they pull the trigger!

  • @Chudley716
    @Chudley716 8 днів тому

    Kings passed on Luka because Fox was here. They traded Haliburton because Fox was here. And now they are going to trade Fox and will have none of these star point guards.

  • @apwkastmaster2096
    @apwkastmaster2096 8 днів тому

    Been brewing nothing new

  • @RobersonRacingIncTV
    @RobersonRacingIncTV 8 днів тому +3

    Fox has been my favorite player since the moment he stepped on the floor. Would hate to see him go, but above all else, Go Kings! 🔦🟣

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому

    Someone should ask Fox if he thinks whatever team he wants to go to will have a better chance of winning than the Kings after giving up a lot young star talent to get him!

  • @aaronmick2281
    @aaronmick2281 8 днів тому

    No way Houston gives up that much
    It’d be either green and picks or Jabari and picks
    We’re not getting both of them

    • @valis14
      @valis14 8 днів тому

      Cam, Jabari, and Jalen? Ham is off his futon man. Fox is good -- he's not THAT good. He's not Luka, he's not Tyrese, he's a guy that's a solid star and barely one at that.Jury's still out if he could really be a true Robin to a Batman.

    • @FranciscoGarcia_42
      @FranciscoGarcia_42 8 днів тому

      ​@@valis14 Bet you he gets traded for more than you think

  • @brianmorton963
    @brianmorton963 7 днів тому

    What a surprise, more Monte and Sacramento bashing from the three stooges
    And just like the Mike Brown firing.
    You're tune will change When he parlay's this fox trade into a wing/4
    Monk goes supernova as the primary ball handler.
    Keon Starts getting thirty plus minutes and flourishing with forty percent from three and lock down defense without needing the ball.
    Whatever wing/4 Monte gets from this make's us a dramatically better team
    Larry Moe and curly here will all the sudden forget about all this nonsense they're spewing right now

  • @km13watch
    @km13watch 8 днів тому

    Rihanna? A man of culture

  • @valis14
    @valis14 8 днів тому

    The Kings don't control their pick in a stacked draft if they make the play-in. Is making the play-in or first round only to get bounced or swept out is worth losing a lottery pick in a stacked draft?!? This is why the Kings and the Bulls are stuck in purgatory... and will continue to be.

  • @shawn9366
    @shawn9366 8 днів тому

    Sounds kind of like Monte and Wes have brought this upon themselves, unfortunately the question remains, are they the right guys to solve this situation?

    • @mikelike3877
      @mikelike3877 8 днів тому

      Maybe but maybe Fox failed our team too dude doesn’t elevate anyone or anything so he can leave too

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому

    People are talking about pleasing Rich Paul and Fox, like it is already done, talking about a trade to the Spurs. l say F&%K that! When the rockets call, ask for Jalen Green, Cam Whitmore and Jabari Smith and 2 first round picks! Tell them you are a friend of Danny Ainge! lol ... I say start the bidding war and be hard nose about it!

    • @patconlon7835
      @patconlon7835 8 днів тому

      you got a mind of your own or you just aping Hambone?

  • @unkindguy88
    @unkindguy88 8 днів тому +1

    Fox never carried the team to the playoffs for 8 years. Sabonis and Mike Brown carried Kings to the playoffs. The team is better when Fox is gone. This comment will age like wine

  • @aaronmick2281
    @aaronmick2281 8 днів тому

    You’re trippin James
    Vassell will be good
    He’s only 24
    Could be a number 2 on a good team

  • @Facelessman276
    @Facelessman276 8 днів тому

    Fox is not a #1 guy and if he is then we still have one left.

  • @mikemcgovern6
    @mikemcgovern6 8 днів тому

    Fire Mike Clown

  • @tylerpearson5454
    @tylerpearson5454 8 днів тому

    If it’s GSW: Podz, Kuminga just for starters.

  • @mitchshiveley3971
    @mitchshiveley3971 8 днів тому

    Fox and Huerter for Cam Thomas, Cam Johnson, and Nick Claxton?

    • @Cheesehead2025
      @Cheesehead2025 8 днів тому

      Idk if Brooklyn would do that, apparently they are trying to target Giannis, and even that makes little sense to me, they should be focusing on a rebuild.

  • @RS-tf6uv
    @RS-tf6uv 8 днів тому

    I need vegas to get a team....I am so tired of being a kings fan...we should have kept Halibhrton

  • @SkillMentorSecurity
    @SkillMentorSecurity 8 днів тому

    If trading Fox is handled properly, the Kings can actually be a better team by acquiring multiple young players with star potential and getting the needed size and balancing this roster. By trading Fox, the chance of giving up the rest of the core is diminished.