No there is one way. If you use luminescent mirage he will always use megidoloan turn one and lose his second turn so he will Never have the chance to cast Megiddo ark the only outlier is when he goes for magastuhi plunder and skills from plunder
@@hheecckk526 I can get behind your sentiment. Kaneko’s Satan is awesome gruesome, alien, and as you said iconic. It also introduced me to a very obscure game (E.V.O.) that I hope to play someday. I do like Doi’s SMTIV Final design but I think it fits a persona more. I preferred his concept art (you could say that as a whole when it comes to SMTIV Final designs) on Satan however I understand why at the end he did not go through with it. I hope we get both in future games. I think it could work.
@@ironrex6979I share the same sentiment exactly, I sort of appreciate IV's Satan design in the context of the game it originated from; which is the parallel between him and God's second form both having 6 heads around their collar. Outside of that context though, its just an alright design.
Glad to see this version of Satan instead of the one we are used to seeing from other atlus games. Happy that SMT 4 is getting some recognition with it's demons designs.
Beelzebub: Alright another foe to fight, oh hey I recognize him! Satan: I see a fly to swat... *charges the Megido Ark on first turn* Beelzebub: Hey wait! At least let me set up - Satan: Megido Ark go Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@BAIGAMING dose having the new dlc demon and demi fiend as guest helps out in this fight? I am talking about the dlc demon that restore HP and MP and heal you up
@@ultmewtwoKonohana Sakuya is going to help no matter what fight you're doing. She's a better Idun that doesn't lock Beelzebub out of his innate. As for Demi Fiend, Chaotic Will, Gaea Rage and Deadly Force will never NOT be helpful in some shape or form. The question becomes whether or not you can slot him into your team without losing something vital.
Was the targeting of Beelzebub intentional at the beginning? I find it funny since it makes me think of their relationship in SMTII and how they were enemies.
Lol that's so true I wish it was intentional! But for some reason he mostly keeps targeting Beelzebub, I don't know why but maybe it's because my Beelzebub has lower stats.
@@GanonAutumn777merkabah's design is definitely on the wilder side akin to og satan, with all the non uniform appendages, need a mastema esque big role to warrant
So Nanashi and Flynn is Also can be called Nahobino, Nanashi (Dagda), Flynn (Krishna/Masakado) , hmm makes little bir sense, considering the messiah/Godslayer himself was intended to be someone the great will chose to have the observational ability to kill a god
It’s a bit diffrent for Flynn nd nanashi as they weren’t originally 1 entity split into 2, they’re basically just a merging like Jimenez in SJ, in the case of Flynn it’s more like an entity just taking over his mind and body than merging of 2 individuals knowledge that were once 1, which is what a nahobino is
No, Nanashi and Flynn aren’t Nahobino. Nanashi never fused with Dagda, he was only being kept alive by him. Flynn being a Godslayer is something different to a Nahobino. Yes he did merge with them but Godslayers don’t have the potential to recreate the world, just the ability to destroy deities.
@@UnifiedGod777uhh dude, Nanashi literally sits on the throne of God in Finals true ending I also think it’s possible. Dagda and Nanashi met in the afterlife and it’s highly likely that the reason why Nanashi and Dagda were able to interact is because he was unintentionally bumping into his own knowledge at the time He even is marked by Dagda and technically they are fused because Dagda is inside of him much like Danu was inside of the blonde fairy girl (forgot her name)
@@JayC-e2u No Dagda was inside his comp as seen in the beginning of the game after Dagda revives Nanashi. They aren't fused like Aogami and Kei are. So I guess it would theoretically be possible but that isn't something shown in Apocalypse at all. The only thing we get similar to that is Vishnu Flynn. He sits on HIS throne in the ending, not the throne of God. His throne being part of the cosmic egg means it isn't the same as THE throne we see in SMT V which is where YHVH used to "sit". Yes he does recreate the world depending on the ending but he uses souls to design the new world where as Nahobino merely "wish it into existence" for lack of a better phrase. And the blonde girl was Nozumi.
So, let me if I can grab all of them (list was weirdly long, so I thought I should write it down): - Titania - Hariti - Arahabaki - Ganesha - Kumbhanda - Kaiwan - Yatagarasu - Sarasvati - Fafnir - Sraosha - Macabre - Mada I think this is supposed to be Nanashi's canonical demon stock? It's kind of weird how canon teams work there, but the way I figured it was that Samurai skills come from demons using Demon Whisper, right? Isabeau's skills, for the most part. come from what her demon stock can teach her, so isolating those on the assumption that one demon taught one skill, her "Neutral" demons would be demons that can teach her Megidolaon, Bufudyne, and Diarahan. Since Nanashi doesn't have a canonical skillset, because he is the MC there, there is technically no confirmed canonical skillset or demon stock. Also, canon demon stocks are usually in-game event demons and/or path-exclusive demons, so I don't know where the initial Centaur or Sudama is. Though, Kumbhanda and Mada weren't in those games so maybe I just looked at that and assumed, so eh, who knows. I'm still really interested in why they picked those demons though, in a fight like this.
In previous games, Satan is supposed to be stronger than Lucifer. In SMT 1-4 lore, Satan is YHWH's top enforcer, whom he sends when he wants to absolutely destroy opposition; second, only to YHWH in power. SMT5 Lucifer, however, has consumed YHWH's "Knowledge" and has effectively usurped the role of the most powerful being in the universe. TLDR; Transcended Lucifer is stronger than Satan in-lore and in-game.
Gunna play devil’s advocate here and argue for equal or stronger power in this incarnation of Satan’s favor. Instead of YHVH he acts on behalf of the Axiom and like Lucifer, seems to have transcended.
I'd say Satan because that this version of the Great Adversary is composed of both Mastema (who is the final boss of the Vengeance Chaos path), Samael (who the Qadištu are qanoodling with) and Transcended Lucifer in the alternate path (in fact, you _have_ to beat him in Creation True Neutral to even unlock Satan). Though thankfully, Satan here has more of Transcended Lucifer's calm and mentor-like personality as opposed to Mastema's douchebaggery. He also knows a lot more about the Mandala System considering he's the only one who knows of Godborn.
Ngl, this should have been the chaos final boss Like, on law you fight Tiamat and then Tehom, and in chaos you fight mastema and then Satan, it makes more sense than Mastema using Leviatan and then fighting him like, on naked
Definitely, I like Mastema as a character but as the final boss of that route I didn't really like it. I guess they didn't want to repeat SMT 4 Apocalypse where he was introduced as a penultimate final boss. But you have a really great idea, if they toned down his difficulty to make him a final boss that would've been an amazing surprise.
So if Mastema gives up himself in order to summon Satan... what happens if you get the new chaos ending after beating this superboss? Does Mastema just appear out of nowhere even though we just saw him die earlier?
The Mastema in Shinjuku is merely a remnant of the real Mastema you fight at the end of the the New Chaos route: Kill the latter first and the former will comment on it.
Some of it is incenses, rest is using all the prayer/stat inheritance miracles for fusion to buff stats. Incenses are easy to farm from the jewel trading side quest in COV. You can get all except health and stamina AFAIK.
@@DMSwordsmaster ngl i don't really get how that works, you just chain fuse and always use the result demon to fuse a new one and eventually you have insane stats?
Yes it's just grinding incenses, the worst part is that I can still only barely do the fight on normal! I didn't bother with null/drain phys, I'm scared of nulling or draining because other bosses spam almighty moves or worse moves, I did this day 1 so I don't know his AI.
I've been beating my head against a wall trying to fight him on casual after beating Demi-Fiend. I don't want to spend another full day farming incense but it looks like that's gonna be the only way.
Yep that's what I did, a lot of incense farming. Atlus superbosses are some of the craziest in any game, I wouldn't blame you if you turned it down to casual or even in a dlc they even added a lower difficulty called safety difficulty. There's definitely strategies to use against Satan that I didn't know about when I made this video. I think you can purposely leave Satan's demons alive at a small amount of health, then he will absorb them but he will also take their elemental weakness too, then you damage him more and get more press turns. I was also told that if you let him absorb demons he uses Megido Ark less too.
There's no difficulty trophies but if you turn down the fight from hard to normal you'll be stuck on normal, you can't switch it back to hard again for that playthrough.
Significantly harder imo. I can clear demifiend in hard, but normal Satan whooped my ass so hard I went to CoC to get more stats, masakado, and more somas. I might have been able to clear it on normal if I had 5 somas instead of 1, but it still would have been a slog.
So true, SMt2 is one of my favorites, great story and routes. Nahobino has some of the best unique moves in the series too, you really feel so powerful!
Absolutely - but it's like a chicken and the egg problem because you need to beat Satan first to unlock the level 150 cap. I wanted to try to beat him normally first
No worries. You're playing Vengeance correct? Look for the Aogami bodies when exploring. Murakumo is in Da'at Taito at Leyline Asakusa. It's in the ringed area, if I remember it's the top ring part in the northwestern-ish part.
They're both tough but I really think Satan is harder than Demi-fiend. Demifiend's AI is also well known now so you can probably find ways to beat him more easily, whereas Satan is still new. If you can recruit Demi-fiend you can use him in the fight against Satan as well (Demifiend joins as a guest now, you can't change his skills but he has 99 stats and powerful skills).
@@BAIGAMINGI always felt Satan was harder too even though he had weakness he can randomly change them,does a crap ton of damage, and unlike Demi Fiend he can fully heal as many times instead of just once(Most annoying part about him)
Can some plz reply to this. I want to fight demi fiend after i unlock the level cap rase so should i fight him 1st and if i fight him 1st will the new dlc demons be useful to use in this fight
If you want to fight Demi Fiend after unlocking the level cap then yeah you'll have to beat Satan first. The new DLC demons are useful, especially Sakuya, she has a healing move that restores a bit of all your allies' MP, and in these fights MP management is tough. But the "old DLC" demons like Cleopatra are not as good, they nerfed them with increased spell costs and less effective moves.
you need to leave right before challenging lucifer and go backnto where you met mastema who will give you a quest to beat samael, sfter doing that he becomes satan and you can fight hin
I'll give this advice: kill Hariti ASAP. If he absorbs her, he will fully heal and we don't want that in an RPG, do we lol. Masakado is such a good demon for this fight to kill the mobs. Edit: fixed to give an even better tip!
It's a bit of a mouthful, check out this resource www.rpgsite.net/guide/15964-shin-megami-tensei-v-vengeance-how-to-fight-satan-unlock-godborn-mode-reach-level-150
Almighty, does medium to severe damage based on how many party members you have. I think it only counts on the screen not in the whole stock, but the issue is you'll always want to have 4 party members so it always does high damage.
@@BAIGAMING Honestly they made that skill pretty sucky who’s bright idea was it to make it scale to the number of enemies(While other versions of it hits 3 times to all enemies)I usually don’t inherit skills to demons but out of all of them Satan needs it the most
Ermm, not recruitable but fusable. EDIT: I needed to clarify something! You unlock Satan fusion when you beat him. However, in order to fuse him, you need Samael, Mastema and Lucifer. The first two unlock as you progress the game. But Lucifer is only unlocked ONLY if you play the game on Godborn mode. So basically, in order to even be able to fuse Satan, you will need to play on Godborn mode so you can access Lucifer and only then you can get your hands on Satan. I'm disappointed by this but oh well.
You need to beat Masakado, it can be done in the Canon of Creation route. It's a sidequest line you do to fight him, see www.rpgsite.net/guide/15965-shin-megami-tensei-v-vengeance-how-to-fight-masakado-get-we-shall-protect-our-tokyo-achievement
@@zaqareemalcolmNote(Late): He can fully heal himself if all of his allies are still alive so take care of them before he gets to use his Magatsuhi skill
Hmm yeah old Satan was definitely eerie. I don't mind Doi doing his own demons either his Satan is alright, nothing can compare to Kaneko's designs but he moved on unfortunately.
![Satan Superboss Fight [Hard] - Shin Megami Tensei 5 Vengeance [真・女神転生VV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2teHQ58vEOU/mqdefault.jpg)
So it seems unlike Shiva, there’s no way to get him to prioritize doing certain moves and he can just use Megido Ark whenever he wants
All more of a reason why Demi-Fiend's exclusive protection stat became useful
Sadly not for demi fiend himself on my first go as satan one tapped him on the first turn@@therealjaystone2344
No there is one way. If you use luminescent mirage he will always use megidoloan turn one and lose his second turn so he will
Never have the chance to cast Megiddo ark the only outlier is when he goes for magastuhi plunder and skills from plunder
Glad I got to see how satan uses his unique Megiddo ark skill and it looks surprisingly impressive.
It sucks how all his skills are just one target and his unique skill sucks as
Who’s idea was it to scale Megido Arc damage to the number of enemies while his previous versions have it way better😭
So glad this design escaped IV Apocalypse.
Kaneko’s will always be better. The Apocalypse one is Bette of as a Persona.
@@ironrex6979 while kanekos satan design is iconic the smt4a design is the edgiest shit ever and i absolutely love it
@@hheecckk526 I can get behind your sentiment. Kaneko’s Satan is awesome gruesome, alien, and as you said iconic. It also introduced me to a very obscure game (E.V.O.) that I hope to play someday. I do like Doi’s SMTIV Final design but I think it fits a persona more. I preferred his concept art (you could say that as a whole when it comes to SMTIV Final designs) on Satan however I understand why at the end he did not go through with it. I hope we get both in future games. I think it could work.
@@ironrex6979I share the same sentiment exactly, I sort of appreciate IV's Satan design in the context of the game it originated from; which is the parallel between him and God's second form both having 6 heads around their collar. Outside of that context though, its just an alright design.
I hope they stick with this new design in at least the SMT games. Both designs are sick as hell though.
Glad to see this version of Satan instead of the one we are used to seeing from other atlus games. Happy that SMT 4 is getting some recognition with it's demons designs.
It's probably because it's a Doi design. If IVa Satan was a guest design, they wouldve used Kaneko's.
@@pkmist2164 honestly I prefer the OG myself.
Yeah this version of satan is amazing.
I honestly love this design, it looks so malevolent yet so angelic, a true form of the Beast of Revelation and the judge of all life.
The SMT4 designs are pretty bad. Classic Kaneko all the way. This one works better as a persona
i was like "this theme song sounds familiar"
Turns out its a remix of his boss theme in SMT IV
One of my favorite tracks, now the boss is much harder than he was in SMT 4 Apocalypse!
this shit is NOT deicide brother
I'm so happy they chose this design of his, it's his best by far!
Beelzebub: Alright another foe to fight, oh hey I recognize him!
Satan: I see a fly to swat... *charges the Megido Ark on first turn*
Beelzebub: Hey wait! At least let me set up -
Satan: Megido Ark go Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
My poor fly 😥I really don't know why Satan's AI kept targeting Beelzebub.
@@BAIGAMING Natural enemies. One demon is of supreme law, the other supreme chaos
18:23 666 damage
😅
@BAIGAMING dose having the new dlc demon and demi fiend as guest helps out in this fight?
I am talking about the dlc demon that restore HP and MP and heal you up
@@ultmewtwoKonohana Sakuya is going to help no matter what fight you're doing. She's a better Idun that doesn't lock Beelzebub out of his innate.
As for Demi Fiend, Chaotic Will, Gaea Rage and Deadly Force will never NOT be helpful in some shape or form. The question becomes whether or not you can slot him into your team without losing something vital.
Was the targeting of Beelzebub intentional at the beginning? I find it funny since it makes me think of their relationship in SMTII and how they were enemies.
I feel like it was personal with both Beelzebub and Masakado with Satan using his Megido Ark on them.
@@MarkATorres1989 Yeah it felt pretty personal, especially since both are Choas and he fought Lucifer in II.
Lol that's so true I wish it was intentional! But for some reason he mostly keeps targeting Beelzebub, I don't know why but maybe it's because my Beelzebub has lower stats.
Ah I see, would it'd a nice feature if it was intentional.@@BAIGAMING
I think he targets the one with the highest health. Just something I've noticed.
Honestly, Revival Chant was a carry for me in this fight. My party was Yoko, Sakuya and Masakado :)
now that I've seen SMT IV:A Satan in 3D I want to see SMT IV/IVA Merkabah in 3D ngl
That would be so amazing! I liked having them in my party in 4 Apocalypse!
I was hoping merkabah would at least be dlc
@@GanonAutumn777merkabah's design is definitely on the wilder side akin to og satan, with all the non uniform appendages, need a mastema esque big role to warrant
be careful of what you wish for
I'm happy to see the SMT IV Satan design, it's one of the coolest demon designs ever
This is just my opinion, Satan version smt 4 apocalypse is already here, now wait for Medusa version smt 4 apocalypse.
I'd like to see that!
Two things I’d like to see in 3D lmao.
So Nanashi and Flynn is Also can be called Nahobino, Nanashi (Dagda), Flynn (Krishna/Masakado) , hmm makes little bir sense, considering the messiah/Godslayer himself was intended to be someone the great will chose to have the observational ability to kill a god
No he's taking about the Nahobino beating Lucifer in the other route.
It’s a bit diffrent for Flynn nd nanashi as they weren’t originally 1 entity split into 2, they’re basically just a merging like Jimenez in SJ, in the case of Flynn it’s more like an entity just taking over his mind and body than merging of 2 individuals knowledge that were once 1, which is what a nahobino is
No, Nanashi and Flynn aren’t Nahobino. Nanashi never fused with Dagda, he was only being kept alive by him. Flynn being a Godslayer is something different to a Nahobino. Yes he did merge with them but Godslayers don’t have the potential to recreate the world, just the ability to destroy deities.
@@UnifiedGod777uhh dude, Nanashi literally sits on the throne of God in Finals true ending
I also think it’s possible. Dagda and Nanashi met in the afterlife and it’s highly likely that the reason why Nanashi and Dagda were able to interact is because he was unintentionally bumping into his own knowledge at the time
He even is marked by Dagda and technically they are fused because Dagda is inside of him much like Danu was inside of the blonde fairy girl (forgot her name)
@@JayC-e2u No Dagda was inside his comp as seen in the beginning of the game after Dagda revives Nanashi. They aren't fused like Aogami and Kei are. So I guess it would theoretically be possible but that isn't something shown in Apocalypse at all. The only thing we get similar to that is Vishnu Flynn. He sits on HIS throne in the ending, not the throne of God. His throne being part of the cosmic egg means it isn't the same as THE throne we see in SMT V which is where YHVH used to "sit".
Yes he does recreate the world depending on the ending but he uses souls to design the new world where as Nahobino merely "wish it into existence" for lack of a better phrase. And the blonde girl was Nozumi.
Aogami Type 9 has Revival Chant - full revive and summon from stock.
Reckon I should use that when I fight Satan and Masakado?
Yes
I did on my fight against him. It saved me a lot!
That's amazing, I wish I knew that's really useful!
Where to u get the aogami type 9 essence?
So, let me if I can grab all of them (list was weirdly long, so I thought I should write it down):
- Titania
- Hariti
- Arahabaki
- Ganesha
- Kumbhanda
- Kaiwan
- Yatagarasu
- Sarasvati
- Fafnir
- Sraosha
- Macabre
- Mada
I think this is supposed to be Nanashi's canonical demon stock? It's kind of weird how canon teams work there, but the way I figured it was that Samurai skills come from demons using Demon Whisper, right? Isabeau's skills, for the most part. come from what her demon stock can teach her, so isolating those on the assumption that one demon taught one skill, her "Neutral" demons would be demons that can teach her Megidolaon, Bufudyne, and Diarahan. Since Nanashi doesn't have a canonical skillset, because he is the MC there, there is technically no confirmed canonical skillset or demon stock. Also, canon demon stocks are usually in-game event demons and/or path-exclusive demons, so I don't know where the initial Centaur or Sudama is. Though, Kumbhanda and Mada weren't in those games so maybe I just looked at that and assumed, so eh, who knows.
I'm still really interested in why they picked those demons though, in a fight like this.
Maybe they represent Nanashi’s party members somehow?
That, or they just picked some decent supporting demons from each race so Satan had access to most if not all the Magatsuhi skills.
I'm used to the Satan model in Persona 5 and P3R. Didn't expect it to change.
It’s from SMT IV apocalypse
Yeah it’s from smt iv and I honestly like it way more than the other model
You also get devil Satan the one you see in the cutscene at the tower
@@tiensimon1263That was Lucifer. They aren't the same character. In fact, the two of them are of the opposite alignment.
I mean, in mythology, they ARE the same person...
Oh no. A flashbang unique move again.
Satan from Shin Megami Tensei 4
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Satan from Shin Megami Tensei 4
Seeing this gives me a doubt, between the transcended Lucifer and Satan, who is the stronger?
In previous games, Satan is supposed to be stronger than Lucifer. In SMT 1-4 lore, Satan is YHWH's top enforcer, whom he sends when he wants to absolutely destroy opposition; second, only to YHWH in power. SMT5 Lucifer, however, has consumed YHWH's "Knowledge" and has effectively usurped the role of the most powerful being in the universe.
TLDR; Transcended Lucifer is stronger than Satan in-lore and in-game.
@@RealLifeIronMan I see, thanks for the information 👍
Gunna play devil’s advocate here and argue for equal or stronger power in this incarnation of Satan’s favor. Instead of YHVH he acts on behalf of the Axiom and like Lucifer, seems to have transcended.
I'd say Satan because that this version of the Great Adversary is composed of both Mastema (who is the final boss of the Vengeance Chaos path), Samael (who the Qadištu are qanoodling with) and Transcended Lucifer in the alternate path (in fact, you _have_ to beat him in Creation True Neutral to even unlock Satan).
Though thankfully, Satan here has more of Transcended Lucifer's calm and mentor-like personality as opposed to Mastema's douchebaggery. He also knows a lot more about the Mandala System considering he's the only one who knows of Godborn.
Mastema made it very clear that Satan is stronger than Trucifer since Trucifer’s essence was needed to summon Satan
Ngl, this should have been the chaos final boss
Like, on law you fight Tiamat and then Tehom, and in chaos you fight mastema and then Satan, it makes more sense than Mastema using Leviatan and then fighting him like, on naked
Definitely, I like Mastema as a character but as the final boss of that route I didn't really like it. I guess they didn't want to repeat SMT 4 Apocalypse where he was introduced as a penultimate final boss. But you have a really great idea, if they toned down his difficulty to make him a final boss that would've been an amazing surprise.
@@BAIGAMING Oh, damn, thank you!
I truly felt mastema as a Joke boss tbh, its like, Idk, thats why Law made more sense to me this time tbh
I would like the mastema fight better if he immediately jumped you after tiamat. It fits his cheap ass
So if Mastema gives up himself in order to summon Satan... what happens if you get the new chaos ending after beating this superboss? Does Mastema just appear out of nowhere even though we just saw him die earlier?
Yes, I did this here ua-cam.com/video/wOOmzF56XWM/v-deo.html (I did this sidequest, beat Satan, and then went to fight the final boss.)
The Mastema in Shinjuku is merely a remnant of the real Mastema you fight at the end of the the New Chaos route: Kill the latter first and the former will comment on it.
Masakado putting in more work than any other demon, damn.
He's my new favorite demon ^^
The moment they stood against him...
*THEY SEALED THEIR OWN FATE!*
No enduring soul on your demons? Or Null/drain phys?
Edit: just noticed the stats on your demons, how did you grind that many incense
Some of it is incenses, rest is using all the prayer/stat inheritance miracles for fusion to buff stats.
Incenses are easy to farm from the jewel trading side quest in COV. You can get all except health and stamina AFAIK.
@@DMSwordsmaster ngl i don't really get how that works, you just chain fuse and always use the result demon to fuse a new one and eventually you have insane stats?
Yes it's just grinding incenses, the worst part is that I can still only barely do the fight on normal! I didn't bother with null/drain phys, I'm scared of nulling or draining because other bosses spam almighty moves or worse moves, I did this day 1 so I don't know his AI.
@@DMSwordsmaster do you have a method to farm incences?
I've been beating my head against a wall trying to fight him on casual after beating Demi-Fiend. I don't want to spend another full day farming incense but it looks like that's gonna be the only way.
Yep that's what I did, a lot of incense farming. Atlus superbosses are some of the craziest in any game, I wouldn't blame you if you turned it down to casual or even in a dlc they even added a lower difficulty called safety difficulty. There's definitely strategies to use against Satan that I didn't know about when I made this video. I think you can purposely leave Satan's demons alive at a small amount of health, then he will absorb them but he will also take their elemental weakness too, then you damage him more and get more press turns. I was also told that if you let him absorb demons he uses Megido Ark less too.
Please don't do this on Safety.
Megido ark is a one handed Kamehameha
Change my mind
Kamehameha is a two handed Megido Ark (or the Unifier of Hawaii)
Omg I liked Gohan's one handed Kamehameha when he beats Cell, so amazing.
Peak game
Definitely, I haven't been so hyped in years!
so since i started vengeance mode first am i screwed or can i still fight satan without beating creation mode and getting true neutral ending?
Pretty sure Satan is for Vengeance, Masakado is the new super boss for Creation.
afaik you must beat the Creation mode first (True Neutral ending) then Vengeance on NG+ playthrough.
youre fine just have to reload a save before the end after beating the game
All you have to do is beat the game and then reload a previous save.
Please tell me this Jiang a 'fight only on hard mode' fight. It won't penalize me for taking the easy way out right?
There's no difficulty trophies but if you turn down the fight from hard to normal you'll be stuck on normal, you can't switch it back to hard again for that playthrough.
@@BAIGAMINGHonestly who would want to play this guy on hard mode you got to be mentally insane for that he just screams safety mode
@@UltimateRex95For sheer force of will.
2 days after release. You are fast.
And tired 😪
Is this boss harder than Demi fiend?
Significantly harder imo. I can clear demifiend in hard, but normal Satan whooped my ass so hard I went to CoC to get more stats, masakado, and more somas. I might have been able to clear it on normal if I had 5 somas instead of 1, but it still would have been a slog.
Yes 100% but maybe as more time passes we'll figure out his AI and strategies to use against him.
Naohobino is greater then planetary durability confirmed: TLDR Megiddo ark is from smt 2 blows up the world
So true, SMt2 is one of my favorites, great story and routes. Nahobino has some of the best unique moves in the series too, you really feel so powerful!
@@BAIGAMING true, like Aleph beating god with a sword is cool but… “like a moonbeam” is enoguh said
It’s 2x Faster in Lvl 150 (Not including Incenses / Balms from Godborn )
Absolutely - but it's like a chicken and the egg problem because you need to beat Satan first to unlock the level 150 cap. I wanted to try to beat him normally first
man for some reasons i can't find Murakumo, there i can only find some yellow crystals with classic objects shall i be on hard mode?
No worries. You're playing Vengeance correct? Look for the Aogami bodies when exploring. Murakumo is in Da'at Taito at Leyline Asakusa. It's in the ringed area, if I remember it's the top ring part in the northwestern-ish part.
So this is the new super boss right? Other than demi-fiend and shiva?
Yes this and Masakados. And new final bosses for Vengeance routes.
Is Satan harder than Demi fiend?
Im doing prep for both but i wanna know which one i should tackle first
They're both tough but I really think Satan is harder than Demi-fiend. Demifiend's AI is also well known now so you can probably find ways to beat him more easily, whereas Satan is still new. If you can recruit Demi-fiend you can use him in the fight against Satan as well (Demifiend joins as a guest now, you can't change his skills but he has 99 stats and powerful skills).
@@BAIGAMINGI always felt Satan was harder too even though he had weakness he can randomly change them,does a crap ton of damage, and unlike Demi Fiend he can fully heal as many times instead of just once(Most annoying part about him)
Can some plz reply to this.
I want to fight demi fiend after i unlock the level cap rase so should i fight him 1st and if i fight him 1st will the new dlc demons be useful to use in this fight
If you want to fight Demi Fiend after unlocking the level cap then yeah you'll have to beat Satan first. The new DLC demons are useful, especially Sakuya, she has a healing move that restores a bit of all your allies' MP, and in these fights MP management is tough. But the "old DLC" demons like Cleopatra are not as good, they nerfed them with increased spell costs and less effective moves.
@@BAIGAMING do you know witch story chose are law I am not at law and I do not want to not get Yuko ending by turning into law
Is that optional super boss can be there playing CoV first or not?
need to play canon of creation true neutal then cov
no you dont, i fought him on CoV on my first playthrough
you need to leave right before challenging lucifer and go backnto where you met mastema who will give you a quest to beat samael, sfter doing that he becomes satan and you can fight hin
@RyoshuLimbus Just making sure, did you got the true neutral ending on the original smtv?
@@peerlessautumntree yes but I need the guide to follow as long as I don’t reach the final world of the game
What happens if you let the allies live?
He will eat them and gain a permanent power/new skills
@@renhardhalimWTF really?
@@ebongedes He steals their resistances gets new skills and immediately charges their unique magatsuhi ability
I'll give this advice: kill Hariti ASAP. If he absorbs her, he will fully heal and we don't want that in an RPG, do we lol. Masakado is such a good demon for this fight to kill the mobs.
Edit: fixed to give an even better tip!
@@Kerem-mf9oy can you please tell us your strats?
Uh-oh He's BAAAAAAAAAAACK!
Quick question, how did you get the mission anyway 🤔🤔
It's a bit of a mouthful, check out this resource www.rpgsite.net/guide/15964-shin-megami-tensei-v-vengeance-how-to-fight-satan-unlock-godborn-mode-reach-level-150
How do you have so much MP on Masakado? Mine's level 99 with Great Mana Spring and it's only around the 500 mark
Farm incenses!
@@BAIGAMING Any tips on how you farmed incenses? 😅
You have to just roam around the maps with your demon nav and pray the rng is in your favour
@@NerfKaiZer I see, thanks!
Can summon Satan after beating him?
Yes
Thank you very much for answering my question
After you beat lucifer on godhood difficulty to unlock his fusion
@@tomsmith6379damn thats gonna be hard
@tomsmith6379 you don't need to do that, just beat the game save on a new file and then reload
Is Megiddo Ark an instakill or what?
Nevermind I just saw Masakado survive it
Almighty, does medium to severe damage based on how many party members you have. I think it only counts on the screen not in the whole stock, but the issue is you'll always want to have 4 party members so it always does high damage.
@@BAIGAMING Honestly they made that skill pretty sucky who’s bright idea was it to make it scale to the number of enemies(While other versions of it hits 3 times to all enemies)I usually don’t inherit skills to demons but out of all of them Satan needs it the most
Is he recruitable?
Yea
Ermm, not recruitable but fusable. EDIT: I needed to clarify something! You unlock Satan fusion when you beat him. However, in order to fuse him, you need Samael, Mastema and Lucifer. The first two unlock as you progress the game. But Lucifer is only unlocked ONLY if you play the game on Godborn mode. So basically, in order to even be able to fuse Satan, you will need to play on Godborn mode so you can access Lucifer and only then you can get your hands on Satan. I'm disappointed by this but oh well.
@@Kerem-mf9oy I was more disappointed on his skills all of them are one target and his unique skill sucks
How’d you unlock masakado?
You need to beat Masakado, it can be done in the Canon of Creation route. It's a sidequest line you do to fight him, see www.rpgsite.net/guide/15965-shin-megami-tensei-v-vengeance-how-to-fight-masakado-get-we-shall-protect-our-tokyo-achievement
why does Satan summon such random demons?
he can use their magatsuhi skills
@@zaqareemalcolmNote(Late): He can fully heal himself if all of his allies are still alive so take care of them before he gets to use his Magatsuhi skill
Can you beat satan with team of Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Uriel and Metatron? I'd like to see YHVH's revenge destroying satan.
Lucifer killed YHVH in the game tho
In SMT, Satan is on YHVH's side. Satan is YHVH's top enforcer and destroyer.
@@therealjaystone2344 I'd never believe in lies that come from father of lies. God would never be killed by devil. what atlus does is heresy.
@@RealLifeIronMan satan is a traitorous snake. I don't consider him a servant of God.
@@TangensROH this is fictional and realism
The old design was better, less edgy and more terrifying
Hmm yeah old Satan was definitely eerie. I don't mind Doi doing his own demons either his Satan is alright, nothing can compare to Kaneko's designs but he moved on unfortunately.
That one is okay, but there's others like Asmodeus from smt iv.. lacking personality feels too generic
what difficulty?
It in the tile
@@ShineEdgateAshton14 normal mode or hard mode?
All yea
I mean yes normal
@@ShineEdgateAshton14 ok thanks josua
underwhelming fight theme
I disagree
You're underwhelming.
...No.
It's a remix of his boss theme in 4 Apocalypse. I really liked it because I played that game and fought him there too.
@@BAIGAMING Really? I don't hear it, sadly.
...still a banger either way, though.