Stjepan Sulek (1914-1986) : Symphony No. 8 (1981) **MUST HEAR**
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2013
- Stjepan Sulek (1914-1986) (Croatie)
Symphony No. 8 (1981) *MUST HEAR*
Dir : Pavle Despalj
Symphony Orchestra of the Croatian Radio Television
1- Andante sostenuto -- Moderato assai (19.31)
2- Allegro feroce (Allegro non troppo) (7.37)
3- Adagio ma non troppo (11.45)
4- Allegro moderato (12.13)
On collectionCB3 we can also to listen to Stjepan Sulek's « Symphony No. 1 » (1944), « First Classical Concerto for orchestra » (1944), « Symphony n°2 "Eroica" » (1946), « Violin Concerto » (1951), « Symphony No. 4 » (1954), « Piano Concerto No. 3 » (1970), « Epitaph for a Lost Illusion », for orchestra (1971) and « Organ Concerto "Memento" » (1974).
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It sort of amazes me that so many terrific works go unnoticed. Being terrific does not guarantee being noticed. I found this a terrific listen.
This Symphony is the best I have heard of all the music made in the second half of the 20th century. A true masterpiece. An intense first movement with exuberant themes. A brutal second movement with enormous rhythmic force. A third movement with manly lyricism and an explosive finale with great energy. Traces of Prokofiev, Shostakovich, Bruckner, Dvorak, Elgar, etc. can be seen. But at the same time, there is great thematic, combinatory and timbral creativity and inventiveness and, in general, a structurally impeccable symphony. The composer knows at all times what he wants and the public does not get bored. But the institutions of contemporary music do not dare to allow this type of work to proliferate further in concert halls. We are therefore grateful to conductor Pavle Despalj for having dared to offer the Symphony Orchestra of the Croatian Radio Television this wonderful performance, in order to help raise awareness of this magnificent music of our time, which is on a par with the music of post-romanticism.
OK, one of the greatest works of 20th century music. The finale had me in tears. God and His Angels opening their arms to me.
The love and splendor of this work is beyond belief. I never thought any modern work could do this. Never dry or dull, always
full of surprises, how Sulek deliberately reminds us of other great music in a full blown Pantheon of love and acceptance, inclusion
and openness. Love to all. The Universe cares. We all matter.
Yes, a most optimistic ending to his cycle. I was expecting something more serious but resignated. I like they all.
Composers may parade by as if in a fantastic dream - from Bruckner, Haydn, Martinu and Shostakovich in the first movement to Mozart and Bach in the finale - but Sulek's genius allows us to believe that if none of these composers had ever lived, he would have written his symphony achieving exactly the same result. His valedictory Eighth is a powerful work, the most purely beautiful of those that I've heard, a self-assured, glorious hodgepodge of integrity, inspiration, and yes, originality.
I am consistently finding the music of Sulek very attractive -- this symphony is an example. Glad to have made its acquaintance - and thanks for the opportunity! More of his symphonies,please. . . . . loved those chimes at the conclusion!
This work has so many passages of great beauty and passion. I'm deeply moved. I wish I could hear it in a concert setting.
A great orchestra with a great conductor. The magnificent orchestration deserves a live performance. Profound music.
The only "influence" I hear is , perhaps, the spiritual and God centered ethos of Bruckner. Pretty good company !
Listening again to this Symphony I must admit, that I find it just very good music. It has no more that selfpitying attitude, of the Violin Concerto.
Merveilleuse! Fantastique!! Merci!!!
Ted Wilks
Very impressive. I hear the influence of Beethoven and Brahms, particularly in the finale, as well as an occasional dash of Mahler. Still, this is fundamentally a major 20th century romantic symphony. Merci beaucoup, Corentin.
C'est de la grande musique, injustement méconnue, comme celle de beaucoup d'autres compositeurs du 20 siècle. Merci pour cette découverte.
Merci à vous de l'affirmer c'est bien de savoir des personnes qui savent apprécier et reconnaitre la qualité injustement méconnue ..
this is awesome beautiful piece
Listening now. Already fascinated by the flow of snippets of melodies, sometimes with a nod to shostakovich and also Bruckner (as somebody else in this thread already mentioned).
Amazing
Sublime finale,una real gema desconocida esta sinfonia 8 de Sulek.Imperdible y gloriosa.
one can analyze "influences" forever and with no profit. Beethoven was "influenced" by Mozart, and Mozart by Bach. So what. I'll say this: I've been listening to Sulek's symphonies for the last several hours while working elsewhere on the 'net, and this music has forced me to stop...and...just...listen...numerous times. I am impressed
David Luck Happens to me again and again, David.
I can but wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. So and so was influenced by Brahms; so and so by Rimsky-Korsakov; yaddy yadfy yah.
I might be able to stretch to that a little bit if a particular composer was a teacher of one such composer, but by and large, the comparisons are tedious. People can not be happy that someone achieved something on their own merit........
COMPLEXO E AGRADAVEL!!!!
Great!
Assez impressionnant et hors du temps... Mériterait davantage d'attention...
... sehr eigenwillige, hochinteressante, flexibel mischende Tonsprache im Gestus der großen symphonischen Vorbilder, die unmissverständlich zitiert werden ; überzeugend - auch von der Interpretation her ...
Un gran orgullo para Croacia y el mundo
I hear so much Miaskovsky in the first movement 6'50 to 12'10 is to me pure Miaskovsky alongside the Martinu Shosta and Bruckner.
Just discovered this gem ..such life affirming music .Good write up here too
www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2016/Sep/Sulek_symphonies.htm
2:49 reminds me of ballade's theme from "Pictures at an Exhibition" ! :p
rare piece
Danke schön!!! Bamberg
There are traces of Bruckner in it, that I did not find in an other composer
Listen to Symphony No. 9, by Robert Simpson.
Simpson was influenced by LvB, Carl Nielsen, and Bruckner.
You can hear Promenade from Pictures at an exhibition at 3-rd minute :)
Maybe about the 2:30 mark and beyond.
Yes, right
@@Suoyung yes! no wonder it sounded familiar! nice touch.
Great effort to produce a kind of cromatism based on horn winds (reminds Tanhäuser Overture and then, clearly, Hindemith) but not necessarily reaching the climax one should expect - the circle of a circle may be concentric but in this case, somewhat excentric, technically speaking..
I still have the impression of hearing Wagner ... written in 1981! This confuses me somewhat ...
What is the home key of this symphony? Sounds like C minor
All composers stand on shoulders of predecessors, the question is why, what they want to say differently. This I don‘t see in Šuleks works.
Obviously you listen with your education, not your ears.
Why do so many think it is so smart to hear "influences"? Just turn off your evaluative and judgemental BS and LISTEN!
Hear hear!!!!
Some people can't help listening intelligently.
I've already uploaded his Fourth Symphony. You can also listen to his Sixth one on robt0007's channel :
ua-cam.com/video/sD7DYJO79TA/v-deo.html
And I will soon upload his First one (as well as his Violin Concerto).
Corentin Boissier (collectionCB, collectionCB2 and collectionCB3)
Can anyone say if the seventh symphony has a recording and/or if it can be uploaded here?
The 7th symphony has been released in the CD-set "Sulek: Complete Symphonies" (recording taken from the original 1979 LP), but sadly this set seems not to be available on Amazon, Deezer or SPOTIFY any longer. It has not been uploaded on UA-cam. Since the only recording is supposed to be commercially sold, I can't upload it because of copyright laws. That said, give me your email address, and I will send you the recording by WeTransfer...
Corentin Boissier (collectionCB, collectionCB2, collectionCB3, collectionCB4 & collectionCB5)
collectionCB5 Wonderful, thank you!
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@@jonathangoodman2636 Hello,
I just sent you the recording by WeTransfer, at your email address.
I wish you a happy and musical year 2020!
Corentin Boissier (collectionCB, collectionCB2, collectionCB3, collectionCB4 & collectionCB5)
I have finally taken time to listen the entire symphony. I think there are too many similarities with Brahms, Richard Strauss, Tchaikovsky and a bit of Shostakovich to express more personal language of Šulek, I prefer his sixth symphony to be his best. I have heard the second symphony is generally considered Šulek's best. Do you possibly have that one as well?
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THE LAST MOVEMENT IS APHOTEOSIC