Talk Show on Susan Atkins (Manson Family Killer) Part 4
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2006
- Very interesting episode of the Maury Powich show from 1993. Subject is the parole hearing for Manson Family member Susan Atkins. Featured guests are Patti Tate, Susan's attorney Debra Frasier, prosecutor Steven Kay, Susan Atkins' ex husband Donald Lazure and an ex prison guard. Very entertaining. FOX Television. 1993.
And her voice is so much like Sharon's too...the softness and the hestitating...it's very eerie.
Looks like her too
@@tammybrown4901 you actually do realize that she died 23 years ago, do you ?
this is sick. patti shouldn't have been subjected to the trash in that room!!!
Patty is so much like her sister--kind and gentle and lovely--and as it turns out--doomed. She died of breast cancer a few years after this was filmed. Rest in peace.
Lets hope the tate family will b reunited after dearh,god bless them
Patti was so beautiful. I was living in her neighborhood (Rancho PV Calif ) when she died in 2000. I felt so sorry for her children to lose her so young.
James Varela what happen to her. just wondering.
@@marlenathornsbeary2800 breast cancer
Patti Tate died of breast cancer in 2000. May she RIP
At the time of this interview in 1993, Maury had mentioned that the Tate family, were the only family members who attended the parole hearings. However years later, that's not case anymore. Jay Sebring's nephew began to attend the parole hearings, also Steven Parent's sister, the LaBianca's niece, nephew and grandson. It's a shame that any of the family members have attend these parole hearings to give impact statements to keep their loved ones killers behind bars at all. If California hadn't done with the death penalty in 1972, everyone of these Manson killers including Manson himself, would have been executed years ago and would be dead now. The victim's family members would have had their closure, instead of every few years having to relive their pain over again and over again each time that they attend these parole hearings.
california I'd so lazy about killing condemned killers. Angelo Buono ( one of the Hillside stranglers) and Richard Ramirez died of natural causes after TWO DECADES on death row. If I ever got the death penalty, I'd hope it was in California
Marcia Hooley yes, that is true. And in most of the states, DP inmates get to fight their sentence too. At the taxpayer’s expense. It’s ridiculous. But, the one good thing about getting death, even if it takes 20 years for the sentence to be carried out, is that is a miserable, isolated, claustrophobic existence. Day after day of 23 hours in a tiny cell the size of the average compact car. At least there is that punishment. No socializing, no human contact, no free college degrees....just long, empty hours of nothingness.
theapeman2004 That is very true These people should be dead and the 9 victims would rest in peace and not haunt the places that they died at or in
because I know for a fact that the house that Sharon died in was demolished in 1994 ,but the house next door was built 5 years and completed in 2002 after that and is said to be haunted at the home of David Oman at 10066 Cielo Drive
Check out his you tube videos
And who had the grandiose delusion to declare the death penalty unconstitutional in '72? Only victims families should decide.
Couldn't agree more I'm totally against it.but the more learned about the victims no Charlie's cult.it really broke my heart an really made me mad.🖤🖤🖤🖤
God, Patti looks so much like her sister. Two beautiful women who died too young.
I know its eerie he much Patti looks like Sharon. So beautiful. Debra( Sharon's other sister ) looks very much like her as well.
She died so young 2
I understand that Atkins attorney is just doing her job. But that is a job that I would NEVER do. Just makes me sick.
Then don't become a lawyer. You will have to do things that you don't like to in life.
She was appointed, and unfortunately, was duped in believing her. Sociopaths have a way with people.
again if it wasn't for doris there would still be conjugal visits where prisoners can shack up and have kids. she helped do away with that privilege
Consequently, the instances of sexual assault in prison have increased.
@@joenelson3037 Perhaps it's because there are simply more prisoners? The world population has increased by a few billion since 1969.
Actually, if you read Sharon's autopsy, it states she was stabbed by two different knives. The evidence would suggest both Tex AND Susan stabbed Sharon. Susan was messed up before Manson, she admitted to stabbing Sharon in the beginning anyway, then changed her story when she realised she didn't like prison...
I saw where Patti Tate died of Breast cancer in 2000. Her younger sister contintues to attend the parole hearing of the Manson killers.
Patti is actually Debra's younger sister. Patti is the youngest of the three sisters.
I believe Debra is the middle child and Patti was the youngest.
+Captain Coco That is true.
Debra is older
Very interesting show - thanks so much for posting it. Patti looked and talked so much like Sharon - two such beautiful sisters now gone. RIP.
MissLizaMay Sharon, baby Paul r
Richard, Patti, Doris, and Paul are all together for ever!
How are people laughing is sickening
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Side note: does anybody find it sad when the news commercial came on about the Twin Towers?
Yes! It was eerie and so very sad.
RIP Sharon,Doris and Patty...I really hope that sister Deborah out lives ALL the people involved in her sister murder.
don't forget the forgotten victim, little Paul Richard Polanski
K Mello she just might. 2 down
Marcia Hooley precious angel baby Paul Richard
So far...Manson and Atkins are gone.
Maybe the Folger's & LaBianca's were too terrified to get involved. Just remember how scary & threatening those evil freaks were.
Carol Gladfelder thats exactly. why.now they are going.
I know Susan LaBerge (Rosemary Labianca's daughter) was advocating for Tex Watson's release...
Cristina Garcia - Susan Laberge was also friend with Watson before the killing. I think there is a deeper meaning as to why she goes. The Labiancas had just returned from a family vacation the day they died. The LAPD reported that Tex Watson had spoken with someone from a payphone near their house the day of the killings. I e always felt she tipped him off. It’s not uncommon for children of wealthy parents to want their parents dead for the inheritance. Nothing was investigated further than that, but it is highly suspicious.
The Folgers may have a kind of "old money" attitude of not stooping to discuss their family and its problems, including its tragedies, in public.
@@beatnikrn2945 She inherited two million dollars
Anyone that goes out and kills children, elderly or someone whom is pregnant deserves the death penalty.
When he actually covered real topics.
I wonder what went through Susan's head when she first saw Patti (since she looks so much like Sharon)
I highly doubt that Atkins gave a rat's ass. Cuz that's the type of person that Susan was. DUH!!
According to Patti’s writings about the hearing, Susan smirked and winked at her.
Beatnik RN Jeezus that’s horrible
Beatnik RN ...Ugggh! I wouldn't doubt that one bit! OMG ! Horrible!
@@beatnikrn2945 shes not sorry one bit what she did,but she cant fool God
Donald "Flash" Laisure tries to show off a stab wound from Susan Atkins on his stomach, and then claims a rib deflected it. Ribs are not located in the stomach.
Might want to think that one through again, Flash!
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Name : Donald "Flash" Laisure
End it here. 🤐
I remember when maury had a quality show instead of the trash he has on his show for the last few years. I don't think any of them should ever get out.
This was
classic Maury right here!!!! What the f*** happened man??!! lol
I think the other families of the victims should participated too in fighting for justice against these criminals
I am so glad that prosecutor Steven Kay clarified that Manson and his followers were not hippies. They have always been described as that. The hippy movement was opposed to violence and the Vietnam War. Peace and Love was their motto. Manson posed as a hippy but in reality he was an ex convict who had learned how to manipulate people while in prison. He was an admirer of Hitler and wanted to start a race war between blacks and whites. Manson was angry because Terry Melcher would not give him a recording contract so this was probably him taking his frustrations out on other people and a warning to Melcher. The Manson family have always been used against the flower power era. Yet there was a lot of violence, rape torture and death in Vietnam at the time. Both the Vietnamese and US soldiers were killed and maimed. The hippy movement was about ending this, not killing movie stars.
I'm so sorry for your loss Patti 💙♥️💜💛
Helter-Skelter is a Beatles song (The White Album) that Manson used to teach his "kids" about the future. They used blood of one of their victims to write it on the wall of one crime scene. For Manson, almost every song on that album had a meaning connected with the events he was foreseeing for his idea of the future. Because the meanings were "coded", Manson had to explain them for his followers; like sheep they followed. Also check out Helter Skelter by Victor Bugliosi (who sent them to jail).
The ex-husband is even more delusional than anyone else -.-‘
Well, water seeks its own level. Trash marries trash.
The other victim's familes have attended some of the parole hearings.
"Helter Skelter" means chaos and confusion.
2:58
Oh God...NO...NOT THE PANTS...really, its OKAY MISTER..WE BELIEVE YOU.
Such an idiot.
Patti and her mother Doris were SO brave. Can you imagine trying to sleep at night never knowing if some Manson wannabe was casing your home for murderous fame? Manson has the largest fan mail base and that is frightening. He can still influence young people at his whim.
I'm I mistaken, didnt they turn the death penalty into life in prison. Then they should spend they rest of there life in prison.
Patti began to represent the Tate family at parole hearings for Manson and the other killers until 2000, when she died from breast cancer. Her role was assumed by the middle Tate daughter, Debra.
i just found out on wikipedia
Atkins died in prison and the rest will, and rightly so. These were despicable, senseless and cruel acts of barbarous savagery. May they rot in prison and then burn for eternity in the bowels of hell.
what a truly dreadful show, what a dreadful, slimy host, husband of Connie Dung, this kind of "shit show" was everywhere on the airwaves back then but it was a forum that Patti Tate had to get her case out which was very well put, may she rest in peace.
Her sister looked like Sharon did.
Does he ever let people speak or finish sentences. ffs
So annoying
In March 1977, film director Roman Polanski was arrested and charged in Los Angeles with five offenses against Samantha Gailey a 13-year-old girl - rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. At his arraignment Polanski pleaded not guilty to all charges, but later accepted a plea bargain whose terms included dismissal of the five initial charges in exchange for a guilty plea to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse.
Polanski underwent a court-ordered psychiatric evaluation, and a report was submitted to the court recommending probation. However, upon learning that he was likely to face imprisonment and deportation, Polanski fled to France in February 1978, hours before he was to be formally sentenced. Since then Polanski has mostly lived in France and has avoided visiting countries likely to extradite him to the United States.
Real knight in shining armor that Laisure was; LOL. Shows again that Atkins always was and probably always will be a few bricks short of a foundation. Almost a comedy series; Ma and Pa Laisure home in CIW Frontera. WHOOOOOEE, Y'all come on in!
Paty was soo strong , beautiful as well
Doris Tate, the mother of Sharon Tate, died.
this is her sister Patti Tate.
Doris Gwendolyn Tate (January 16, 1924 - July 10, 1992) was an American campaigner for the rights of crime victims. After the murder of her daughter, the actress Sharon Tate, and several others, she worked to raise public awareness about the United States corrections system and was influential in the amendment of California laws relating to the victims of violent crime.
NOW IM CONFUSED
Do not worry Atkins will die in prison of Brain cancer in 2009
Why did the Folger family never get this envolved!????!!! Why????? They were millónaires they could of helped geez
I'm a Wiccan and I have been studying my spirituality for over 15 years. I have never read or heard this term used within my studies.
What drove Doris Tate was knowing her daughter died calling out for her. That would drive any mother. RIP to all the victims and deceased family members.
RIP PATTI
This man's life has been consumed by the quest to keep Manson & Co. behind bars; it's only natural he'd be extremely familiar with everything pertaining to the case.
Well said!!
And that is the scary thing about society then, and now!!!
when their sentences were commuted to life in prison, it should have been without parole. because of parole hearings, the victims families can never truly put this to rest unless the killers die. so far, atkins is the only one to have died. what BS that these people live on and on.
lisa bradford It should have. Bugliosi said in his book that at the time CA didn’t have the option of life without parole. It was either death or life with parole.
Ha. Doesn’t matter, because life without parole is a bullshit sentence. Many people who are sentenced to life without parole, even brutal murderers, have their sentences commuted and get parole all the time.
@@chainsawkitten3766 maybe so but this bunch hasn't gotten parole and i doubt they will. good because they sure don't deserve it.
@green3y3d - That´s a very interesting questin. 1993 or 2001? May I ask, if you could find any information about this subject?
@green3y3d - Ah ... now I understand. There was a World Trade Center bombing in 1993. But the 9/11 was in 2001.
@LaylaGordon Sharon and Patti were blessed with charm... Debra on the other hand.
However there is some truth to it. The father tried to cover up a lot of information about Abigail after her murder because there were many rumors about her and the Folgers which would cast them in a bad light. A lot of her story has been covered up and appearing at the parole hearings might raise some questions about her.
DonQwantsyou That is absurd. Why on earth would Abigail or any member of the Folger family even know Manson; much less be involved with that freaky loser? The Folgers were wealthy & high class people.
Carol Gladfelder Because their daughter was murdered. That should be more important than status.
I don't know anything about that but there is heresay that Folger knew Manson and had some interaction with him for quite a while before the Tate-LaBianca killings
I don't know why he had that heavy set fellow on. Can't believe a word he says!
when did this come out???? recently?????
Whoppie Goldberg said that, I think. I don't think Debbie defended Roman,but she hasn't blamed him either. She seems to sit on the fence.
Is that Susan Adkins attorney in love with her client???? The way she defends her is ridiculously stupid. Her entire attitude is annoying just like the person in the audience said.
My thoughts exactly. SUCH a fascinating case. I give Bugliosi a TON of credit for using the crumbs he had to get those convictions. I can at least say that I respect him where I have nothing but contempt for the pathetic Stephen Kay.
Dig deeper sheeples...🐏🐏🐑✌🏻☝🏻❤️
If they truly respected the victims and their families they would keep quiet and allow everyone to try and forget them and try to move on. Every time they cry for release they stir up everyone's pain all over again. This shows they don't give a shit for any one but themselves.
Adkins lawyer needs another line ,shes getting giddy.lol
That really is funny...I am also loving hot lawyer's outfit...with the buttons off to the side...very Duran Duran...
That was actually a pretty good idea for him to merry Susan Atkins. He’s a good witness
Makes me sick to my stomach to watch video clips of Manson
@ozzian2000 I know and agree about Leech Kay. But what I wanted to point out is : Helter Skelter is the mother of all we hear and heard in controlled Media, and we supost to be believe is how and why (most important) those murders happened. But dont forget this was all in the eye of Bugliosi , who had to convict Manson at the time. For the record, I am not a Manson follower/supporter, and I dont think Manson is completely innocent. Although I think there is more going on, not for public to know.
2023 we have a crazy man that has followers that will do anything it tells them to do. Still free playing golf.
@Andromeda1741 I know sharon tate wouldnt seh cared very deeeply for those less fortunate.I wish they would have met her before killing her they would have found a very sweet lady.
Patti was so beautiful and elegant. Wish Debra was more like her.
I respect my opinion too, and Im having a great day, thanks for your concern !
She's telling the truth. Why else wouldnt they step up and make sure these ppl dont get out?
It’s so sad what happened to Sharon tate and the others
Not just Liverpool, but all of England.
Well then it's clear that the term helter skelter is not associated with wicca. Its origins are from somewhere though
@Hanzey666 I agree that it is not the answer-all-questions book, but he does list a lot of documented facts that blatantly contradict the talentless weasel who has never had an original thought in his life. Thanks for commenting!
technically Manson is not a serial killer by FBI definition. Susan, TeX and Katie were the serial killers because they killed 2 or more killings, that is the definition of a serial killer.
There are alot of videos out there where people have looped something for 10 hours or so. Someone should do that with the sequence 5:27-5:38.
I'm confused. If Patti died in 2000, and this show was aired in 1993 why is there news briefing at 7:23 about September 11th 2001?
green3y3d 1993 bombing in basement
These lawyers make us sick defense of murder s 💯
Yeah, let's never get emotional about people being abused, tortured and then murdered. Emotion? What a pointless, worthless thing!
Yep, they've a right to a parole hearing and the've also the right to hear "NO!" every time which is what they keep hearing, 'cause emotion is never separable from crime! We're not robots. But they were. If we turn off our emotions we are all capable of the crimes they committed and we're also capable of paying the price those crimes bring. We own our life choices.
Atkins attorney seems so unprofessional, I mean... histerical and like neurotic
It's a slide
Helter Sketler is supposable a witch term.
Its said to be thousands of years old. Im not sure what kind of witches used this language
2dboy, that's harsh. Can't you be a little more polite? I know you're addressing the less educated, but that should make you a little more easy on them. Being nasty or angry will just make them close up more and be more adamant and defensive in their (warped) views. You may break them from their bad thought pattern if you're little kinder; a bit more understanding and you may lead them out of that dark shit they're in.
P.S. But I completely understand your initial response. Peace, my friend!
ok well you said that if a person is up for parole and they say sorry then that makes them smooth actor, when if you did use your common sense you would know that there are remorseful ppl out there and they say sorry from the heart.
@green3y3d the news breifing is about the first WT bombing in 93'.
@ozzian2000 Im not saying Kay isn''t BullSh!tting, but do ya realy believe Bugliosi''s ,,Helter Skelter,, ?? The book makes a lotta $...... thats treu.....
debra tate says this on the today show.
Susan should NEVER be released!
Brain Tumor or not!
That woman is getting all she deserves!
What goes around, comes around!!
Lizzie Delaney she's dead. now burn in hell
sure you are and im a wizard
yup....7:26 is a news cast report about the world trade center bombing's....whoa
Ill bet any one of the victims families, if one of the murderers came to their door the day before and said "Im going crazy and I feel like killing someone, please stop me before I do something crazy, please help me" theyd slam the door in their face.
circus
LMAO Steven Day. Funny no one was aloud to represent Manson
so you must be a psychic right?
That's so gay. And I mean that in a good way. (Yeah, let's re-reclaim that word). I like you vision my friend, but hey, may be it's a little more Arcadia that Duran Duran , lol!
Does that make you much better than her?
when i left that comment i thought YOU were saying that criminals that go for parole are smooth actors. i didnt know you meant that the general public or authorities considered that they are smooth actors or like whatever else you said. My bad i fully misunderstood the comment i must of been stoned or sumthin. I totally agree with what your saying man i just got mixed up iin what you were saying. peace
Atkins died of brain cancer still in prison. Karma baby.
Shut up
Just cancer
And sadly, so did Doris Tate. Was that *her* karma?
SA was allowed to live another 40y, marry 2x with conjugal visits. I’d hardly call that karma. TW is still alive and has four children. More than Sharon ever had the chance to do. Where’s his karma? In fact, all of these savage murderers have outlived the victims families, prosecuting atty and all others affected by their horrific murders
the women had to be jailed for that but for how long ? ? wasnt polanski a child rapist who ran .. $ $ and public support
Naaah na na na naaaah! Now c'mon girls, stop all this hand-bags at dawn rubbish, purlease!
I don't think Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate deserved each other. It's been said that he cheated on her with other women and the baby was Sharon's way of entrapping Roman.
He's an ugly runt of a man. Why was she even with that creature? Yes. He cheated on her multiple times.
What does that have to do with a murder that happened before that?