@@driafibromyalgiafighter9342I'm confused on how you guys can say jock cheated on Kendra and had a baby. Did he have a baby yes he did were they together no they were not they were broken up how can cheat on somebody that you're broken up with
@@symphanykameron maybe I should've been a little more detailed in my comment...Joc cheated on her separately and STILL brought an outside baby BACK into their relationship. ...
Amy: BAMBI IS DATING MY EX FROM 10+ YEARS AGO AND THATS WRONG! Also Amy; I'm messing with her ex husband/father of her kids, but that's ok because he's single!
The funny thing is T.O. walked straight pass Amy like she wasn't standing there, Amy had to say "hi" to him so tells me they was just having sex 10-15 years ago
@@Jooniey87 because she put it on TV to be my business to talk about and run up ratings! And like I said, he looks like he could be her son or grandson!
@@terryo3512 She was a school teacher or a principal. A few years ago she said some really nasty things about some kids that was struggling with some issues. One of the kids came from an abused home and currently in DFCS. She was a mean old something. Very unprofessional. Witch.
Right because why are they all paying these men around. They don't have nothing going on in their lives and it shows now lol except for spice. She's an exception
She's going to have to worry about Eryka next 👊 if she keeps playing trying to mess with the Bam and she don't even want Scrappy but when Eryka gets wind of this studio session with Amy 😂
TO walked past Amy like he didn't even know her, but she is going that hard on Bambi. She is acting like she trying hard to prove that they "dated" but according to him he only smashed a couple of times. Amy made herself look desperate and dumb this season.
Amy is starting to get on my nerves because if she really think that just because she dated Bambi current boyfriend that it should be a big deal When Amy dated him 12-13 years ago something is wrong they really just mad Bambi living her best life🙄😐😑
I can’t deal with Santana. I find him so annoying. His whole cadence and personality gets on my nerves. I feel bad for his past trauma because no one deserves that but otherwise than that, I think he does too much.
My daughter is a teen whose bisexual and she thought i wouldn't love her anymore. I told her girl you cant ever get rid of me its my job as mommy to raise you into a great woman not live for you. I love my babies with my whole core.
I've never seen Zane nor Ashley in my life, but sis, GET REAL. I cannot understand how men openly cheat and dog their wives out, and the women stay. We all need to have self-respect and set good examples for the next generation. This is actually embarrassing at this point
Sierra and Karlie are in love with love, not necessarily their partners. Lil Zane is very short and I’m surprised he manages to find women willing to put up with his height & trifling behavior. Amy is terribly desperate for airtime…
Getting someone’s name tatted on you then immediately telling them “I don’t trust you!” Is pure insanity…big teeth dummy…meanwhile Saucy eating it up giggling🤣
The Zelle Swag , girl missing her period and unprotected sex , them not really even knowing each other and him being in a relationship with Saucy , gives me an uneasy feeling. I'm just old fashioned, I guess.
Oh please that’s how it went back in the day 😂 what are you talking about? If a girl popped up pregnant almost didn’t matter who it was , they had to get married or move outta town, or get rid of the kid
Right! It has nothing to do with his age, him being 42, because there are plenty of men older than him who still looks good and young, HE just looks like he’s had some rough years! He still seems the heavy partying type
Amy bringing up Karlie's ex while her current is right there is crazy work. Just messy and inappropriate. And didn't Sierra say the last dude was her best friend? They just never seem to have any healing/breathing room on this show. Hell the love in Love and Hip Hop can't represent moments of self love also? 🙄
Dam I don't know who gets engaged more Karlie or Sierra 😂🤣🤣 but go ahead girls do your thing get all the rings u can from these men lol I am here for it 😂😂
Crashing out over a dude you messed with in kindergarten and he barely remembers you is crazy 😂😂😂. Then turn around and fuck scrap too Amy.... chile .... smh.
Isn't it ironic it's like he's definitely all the way out there and nothing shy about him but he's proud of that beard I feel like he wouldn't look like himself without it lol
The dating pool must be SMALL in Atlanta and when was Zaine the heart throb? I must not have been born yet! And Amy making a big deal over TO. Girl I wouldn’t be claiming that at all!!
@@MsEliteMember lol right .too long. But naw he wasn't my cup of ☕. I think we all thought he was cute, but in this weird little brother way 😂 def not a heartthrob.
Karlie vs Sierra- let’s see who is the fastest to date and fastest to break up and fastest to move on to the next one. 🥇🥈Yes! You girls keep working for them 💍s & 🏅s.
I love REAL love. I just hope everyone has healed because these people get engaged more than they change their underwear. And subtlety is a thing - they have taken injections to a whole other level. 😢
Ashley, sweetie… you already knew Kirk and Joc are not the “grown married men” you wanted your man around. Everyone in America knows about Kirk. Bye. 🙄
I could NEVER engage myself with such drama. Messiness, ho sh*t etc.
But baby i LOVE watching it😂😂
😂😂 exactlyyyy
😂😂😂😂
Yesss
You’re too pretty for that anyway
This🎯
Amy want screen time so bad she willing to bring back history 😂😂
😂
Fr lol no storyline at all😭
Must stay relevant
😂😂😂
Ur comment really had me rolling like girllllll wtf this was BC history
At this point im convinced Karlie red confuses a love connection with a sexual connection 😂
She annoying
They be proposing so
She annoying
They just posted a video the other day and said the engagement was off.
Men run through her like crazy. Back in my day (Karlie's day too) she would have been labeled a "jump off".
The Creep Squad in Atlanta are all married men 😂 🤣🤣 dam
LMFAO
Its in every state a lot of married men aren’t worth a damn
DON'T FORGET, THEY'RE IN NEW YORK TOO💯😅
@dee6524 but at only two of them were actually unmarried
@@Bijecarli 😖
Amy just wants a reason to be mad at Bambi so she can get with Scrappy I see you Amy I see you girl
😂 let her get her sample
Ew why scrappy
@@RastaFeeNarv gotta be a storyline
@@RastaFeeNarv Idk why but she was saying he was single in the clip and saying he was in the DMs 👀
Aq@@temagee
Ashley... My darling... Referring to Joc and Kirk as "grown married men" when they've both cheated on their wifes is insane 😂😂😂
Not only cheated on them, but brought outside babies into the relationship too 😳😬🤦🏽♀️😬
@@driafibromyalgiafighter9342I'm confused on how you guys can say jock cheated on Kendra and had a baby. Did he have a baby yes he did were they together no they were not they were broken up how can cheat on somebody that you're broken up with
@@symphanykameron maybe I should've been a little more detailed in my comment...Joc cheated on her separately and STILL brought an outside baby BACK into their relationship. ...
My mouth actually dropped open after she said that 😂
@@casandraalverez5245 fr same, like "girl, have you not seen the show at all?!?" 😂😂😂
Amy: BAMBI IS DATING MY EX FROM 10+ YEARS AGO AND THATS WRONG!
Also Amy; I'm messing with her ex husband/father of her kids, but that's ok because he's single!
Which is WILD because Amy and her ex don’t have kids and were never married, whereas Bambi and her ex husband do like ??
Thats not even amy ex. They slept together a few times. Shes delusional and doing anything to be relevant.
@@k.foster-rb7eh exactly! I was saying this! She wants to be on TV so bad!
She is living for the drama.
Okk that part and yandy did not turn up on her she is so wrong
Joc and kirk r the last men u want ur husband to hang around 😂
NO literally
When she said that…I said gworrll if only you knew 🙄😂
Riiiightttt????LMFAO 😂😂😂 !!!!
Don’t forget get scrappy 😂
@@TheEleniAgency she giving advice to jock that she desperately.need
Here come Amy “ Bambi dating my ex” for the millionth time 😭 but ima gone and watch it anyway 😂
And a wham bam stick em ain't really an ex 😂😂😂
Amy is suuuuch a disappointment Jesus 😑
Then be quiet knowing you’ll watch it anyways right ?
😂ikr
The funny thing is T.O. walked straight pass Amy like she wasn't standing there, Amy had to say "hi" to him so tells me they was just having sex 10-15 years ago
Idk why kirk acting shock at zane situations , boy u did the same shit 😂😂😂😂..
Exactly saying he been locked in for a minute 😂😂😂lying like a mf
Ikr
@nev130 the AUDACITY OF KIRK😒
Exactly. He did worse n they weren't separated
Ashley … Joc & Kirk are the wrong married men 😂🤣
Literally couldn’t be the better poster children for utterly wrong 😂😂😂 like Ashley, if you want him to learn loyalty, hang around Papoose.
😂😂😂😂😂
I was just looking for dis they the wrong married man
I just said this to my husband lmfao those two are not the ones you want around, miss mamas 😭😂
The very wrong men!! 😂😂
As a friend, I wouldn’t gaf what I had ten years ago.
💯🎯
It's just courtesy to me❤
@@bellab320
Facts I could never fr . Niggaaa better be called from God and I need to hear that mf ring
I do not want nobody 1 of my friends had *I WILL PASS FRFR*
I wouldn’t give a damn what I had last month !
Now all of a sudden she messing with scrappy and what a coincidence she just tryna be petty 😂😂🙄
they get new boyfriends every season my god 😂
Exactly I'm like how was yall together for 7 years 12 years it was 5 other chick's on the show dating you seriously too😂😂😂
Karlie and Sierra no wonder they are friends
New season new man or boy toy lol
This the one😂😂😂
@@TheCarteBlancheMavenNew face, new set of drama, side children, etc. It is all trifling.
Zane wife is a lil weird and Zane is just… lil 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Karlie looks so silly, that boy looks like her grandson!
How is it your business what age she dates?
Like he could be dating her daughter is she was on the show. It's as if they've paid her to live in her delusion.😊
@@Jooniey87 because she put it on TV to be my business to talk about and run up ratings! And like I said, he looks like he could be her son or grandson!
Agreed
Im still mad at how both Karlie & Sierra have botched their faces 😬😬
Karlie is too much, way way overdone.
Right! I don't even like watching Sierra talk, she always look like a wax figure, trying to breath through it's mouth lol
Looks a mess
Shiiiiiddd I mad they think getting engaged a million times is good every episode they with a new fiancé
@@breeze904for real it’s like she don’t breathe
People be like "we been through alot" no he put you through alot. But okay
Right!!! 💯
😂😂😂😂 Right the beginning of every conversation
Or she put him through a lot. Women act like their saints. We all watch Mauri and yall don't know who the baby daddy is..
@@brandonabner9221 in this situation the man was wrong.. go away
Idk what these women be on.
I can't wait to order Joc's book.
"How to keep a Wife"🤣
How many chapters in that book tho...😂😂😂
He can't keep a wife !?! So I'm lost!!?!
@@trueessence4829 joc had the one wife that looked like Jill Scott for 12-13 years. I think she was the manager at Krystal
You'd just waste your time and 💰 😂
@@terryo3512 She was a school teacher or a principal. A few years ago she said some really nasty things about some kids that was struggling with some issues. One of the kids came from an abused home and currently in DFCS. She was a mean old something. Very unprofessional. Witch.
okay Sierra, he’s actually really cute
Zane is a mess lmao
I think Amy always liked Scrappy and just needed a reason.
i agree this is a really good point
Or need a storyline because she is annoying and lame.
At this point everybody is using each other for a storyline
Right because why are they all paying these men around. They don't have nothing going on in their lives and it shows now lol except for spice. She's an exception
Yes n all the rings just seem like they just for tv cause they barely ever get married n then if they do they get divorced next season
@@kaylalewis4853More Like An Annulment, Lol
The fact that Amy is stooping down to scrappys level is beyond me 😭🤦🏽♀️
She's going to have to worry about Eryka next 👊 if she keeps playing trying to mess with the Bam and she don't even want Scrappy but when Eryka gets wind of this studio session with Amy 😂
“Zells baby mama?” LMAOOO they so messy
Right😂. He just wanted a baby
Wonder how she is gonna feel when he goes back to men?
Dawg, this is some foolishness for sure at the end of it another human life😢
They never seem to care
He did say he liked em both a few years back 😂🤔
Amy is so corny. She using her body to get Bambi back for a man who said he wasn't dating her .10 years ago. Scrappy don't want Amy.
TO walked past Amy like he didn't even know her, but she is going that hard on Bambi. She is acting like she trying hard to prove that they "dated" but according to him he only smashed a couple of times. Amy made herself look desperate and dumb this season.
Amy is starting to get on my nerves because if she really think that just because she dated Bambi current boyfriend that it should be a big deal When Amy dated him 12-13 years ago something is wrong they really just mad Bambi living her best life🙄😐😑
Exactly! Smh
Man ! I’ve never liked her fr. When she was going back and forth with Renni she became so irritating lmao
They never even dated !! Him and Amy smashed a few times.
Girly just wants more screen time
💯
Step 1) have a Big rapper chain.. Step 2) have all ur teeth
Saucy Santana: He's a GOOD man, Savannah
smdh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He too easily impressed because I didn’t understand what good man was he looking at🤣
I can’t deal with Santana. I find him so annoying. His whole cadence and personality gets on my nerves. I feel bad for his past trauma because no one deserves that but otherwise than that, I think he does too much.
Very annoying! Why is he even on the show???
ONGGGG!!!!!!!!!!! Down to his damn voice this man is annoying af!!
yeah and I can't get used to the fake lashes and beard combination lol
@@5omari😂😂😂
@@5omari just gross
My daughter is a teen whose bisexual and she thought i wouldn't love her anymore. I told her girl you cant ever get rid of me its my job as mommy to raise you into a great woman not live for you. I love my babies with my whole core.
My son is also bisexual he knows that I love him very much, And he also knows that I will never accept his lifestyle.
@@tag3893then you don’t love your son
@@Bindle4743 I do love my son, although I love the Most High God more, and I will always side with him, even against myself when I'm in the wrong...
@@tag3893 Tell me you love your kids conditionally without telling me that you love your kids conditionally!
@@KJ-qs3xf oh ok
I've never seen Zane nor Ashley in my life, but sis, GET REAL. I cannot understand how men openly cheat and dog their wives out, and the women stay. We all need to have self-respect and set good examples for the next generation. This is actually embarrassing at this point
Lil Zane? He was ravens boyfriend in Dr Doolittle 2 😂
Exactly I totally agree.
Zane was a ok rapper in the early 2000s remember that song with 112 we can do it anywhere he was on that
Damn how old are u not knowing lil Zane
@@Godsmustbecrazi3 23🤷🏾♀️
Karlie … Karlie is an actress at its finest 😂
She just be getting her coins fr 😂😂
Sierra and Karlie are in love with love, not necessarily their partners. Lil Zane is very short and I’m surprised he manages to find women willing to put up with his height & trifling behavior. Amy is terribly desperate for airtime…
Periodt
😂 never thought he was that short until now 😩…
What's wrong with being short? He has no control over that. Karlie, like plenty of other "woooomeeeeen", had to change herself into a manikin.
Zane is not attractive at all either 🤮
@@JHB_Boy_ZAJOZI nothing is wrong with it I just didn’t think he was that short 🤷🏽♀️
I can see if Bambi was dating Mazi (Amy's current ex) but this guy is from 10-15 years ago, I would not care if I was Amy
She don’t even care just wanted camera time 😂
Getting someone’s name tatted on you then immediately telling them “I don’t trust you!” Is pure insanity…big teeth dummy…meanwhile Saucy eating it up giggling🤣
😅😅 Kiki and kaka-ing
It was giving temporary tattoo to me, idk 😂😂
@@soufbayshawtylol I thought the same, the tattoo was giving 25c bubble gum machine. 😂😂😂
It's the horse veneers for me in the shade of BLIND-ALL-THE-ANGELS WHITE
So ain't gone bring up how Jessica came to Bam's picnic dressed like a Power Ranger!?🤨🤣🙄💀😤
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Being pressed about someone from two centuries ago is insane. I’ve never liked Amy.
Me either
The Zelle Swag , girl missing her period and unprotected sex , them not really even knowing each other and him being in a relationship with Saucy , gives me an uneasy feeling. I'm just old fashioned, I guess.
I agree. I think it’s disgusting
Oh please that’s how it went back in the day 😂 what are you talking about? If a girl popped up pregnant almost didn’t matter who it was , they had to get married or move outta town, or get rid of the kid
Speechless, so from Saucey to her ? And what was the prayer for exactly? ....too much dram for this man.
Sickening is the feeling for me. How you want a baby the right way but been putting your pole in the wrong holes a male Silverback hole to be exact.
@@moniqueduncan4377😂😂😂 male silver back
Who told Lil Zane he was a heartthrob?
Back in the early 2000s he definitely was but nooowww…no😂😂
It’s funny to watch these artist grow up and see how they are. Appears all are misguided but it makes a good watch
Right
Zane...you USED to be a hearthrob...NOW....not so much 😬😳😬🤣🤣
Okay! At 42 those days are long gone.
😂😂😂 😂😂
Right! It has nothing to do with his age, him being 42, because there are plenty of men older than him who still looks good and young, HE just looks like he’s had some rough years!
He still seems the heavy partying type
I never knew Zane's forehead was that damn big!!! Goodness gracious!!! 😱🤯
He wrote them books right ??
Bambi is free to date whom she wants to date.
Yup she's officially divorced and in atl, it only takes 30 days lol😊
Facts
Who else didn’t know Zane was a heart throb? Never knew that 😂😂😂
I was today years old finding this out 😂
I never heard that as well.
Amy bringing up Karlie's ex while her current is right there is crazy work. Just messy and inappropriate. And didn't Sierra say the last dude was her best friend? They just never seem to have any healing/breathing room on this show. Hell the love in Love and Hip Hop can't represent moments of self love also? 🙄
Nobody is taking time for themselves, they keep jumping into a whole new relationship within a blink of an eye 😂
Santana was bushing over Karli’s man! 😂 Karli spoke up real quick! “That’s my boyfriend. 🤣
Let me get my popcorn to watch the relationshit show. 🍿😋
Lmaooooo
😂
Dam I don't know who gets engaged more Karlie or Sierra 😂🤣🤣 but go ahead girls do your thing get all the rings u can from these men lol I am here for it 😂😂
It seems like it’s the same but definitely Karlie more 😭😭😭😭
@@therealj.7084 you right 😂
@@jessmartinez6492 They both need to sit down though 😭
@@therealj.7084 facts 💯 they to dam old to be hopin from man to man 😂
The answer is Karlie lol
Amy is delusional. She’s messing with Bambi’s recent exhusband and she makes a big deal of Bambi messes with her ex of 10yr ago? lol I can’t stand her
They couldn’t find new things so they show us failed relationships 😂
omg😂
It’s insane ‼️😂
It’s entertaining but sad at the same time. Makes you wonder is any one actually happy? 😂😂
Crashing out over a dude you messed with in kindergarten and he barely remembers you is crazy 😂😂😂. Then turn around and fuck scrap too
Amy.... chile .... smh.
She’s sick in the head. She doesn’t see the difference lmao she needs to go back to UA-cam.
😅 I know right. The man in question even whispered to Bambi, "Amy always making a scene"
@@maggiebrooks2550 madness, she must want screen because ain't no way my pride would let me be this way, I rather rub battery acid on my skin.
Zane, baby your days of throbbing hearts are long gone!! 😭
🤣🤣🤣
Lil zane ain't never been cute to me...sorry not sorry lol
Walking away to do a pregnancy test for a gay man... wildest thing on TV. 😂
Some women are so dumb and careless , especially knowing the men are that way. Mess around and get something awful🤦🏿
😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅insanely wild
Karlie look old n young at the same time
Yes!
😂
Image the ph balances on these fools 😂
😬
Kirks wardrobe got better but his attitude and 🌽yness ain’t leave 😂
And he aged rapidly
And you not even gon' mention that ridiculous jumpsuit which Jessica had on... With her skinniest self 😵
Chef D said bye bye Zeus 😂 he couldn’t wait to get back with Saucy and get on the show
Amy wanting to be with scrappy but mad that Bambi dating her ex from 11+ years WILD
Hell Kirk..When tf did YOU get married?🤔😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Sierra wants her relationship private while being on a “reality” t.v…..????..?!??. (Sierra) At least make IT make sense..😂
And don't forget IG posts...lying
Zane says he's been a heartthrob all his life...His hairline must've retired early 😔
😆😆😆😆😆
😂😂😂😂💀
It's crazy how Karlie, Sierra, and Bambi are all so in love right now
like howwwww lol
they think sex is love
@@jourdonelias They are dickmotized
Aren't they ALWAYS...they have no idea what love is
Bambi Isn't Included Though.
I think Amy just want a story line and don’t really give a fuck about that man
That’s what I think too
That and a reason to fight and pick on Bambi
@@SpiritualQueenVibesAnd F Scrappy
Zane full of it lmao,marriage is in your heart 😂😂
He couldn't even say it with a straight face lol
Karlie next season predictions whole new fiance, T-lo is just a contractual fiance for the season
Amy went out her way to be seen 😂😂
I'm sorry but didn’t Sierra just get a divorce, none of these ladies can be alone for whatever reason.
I didn’t know Zane was that Tiny 😂
That dude has always been short😂😂😂😂
2:31 i can't unsee Dee without the frontal 😂😂😂
Zane is still living in the past, I see 😂
He still thinks its the year 2000
Wait.. Ashley girl...Kirk and Joc? Straight and narrow? 😂😂
Saucy go all the way and cut the beard 😂😂 I can't stand seeing him 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Isn't it ironic it's like he's definitely all the way out there and nothing shy about him but he's proud of that beard I feel like he wouldn't look like himself without it lol
Without love & hip hop where will kirk be🤷
Sierra stay with a man,food and a ring😂❤
Who is JOC out of all men to judge….
Amy really giving loser this season. I don’t like it.
Karlie be changing men like Changing drawers....😂😂😂😂
I’m with Amy the whole family is getting checked 😂😂😂😂
Santana sounds like the Chucky the doll when he started screaming 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lil'Zane's mom and dad spilling all the tea!!!
I know Joc not talking!! 😂 He will never change…..
Wait a minute so u saying Joc still playing after getting married or u referring to when he was out there being low down ...can't be trusted ?😂
I would love a man to pray over my newly conceived child. Even though Zell gay that was still sweet.
Ikr. I thought it was cute
Let’s hope his praying leads him to the true living God and he will find a wife.
How can you have a poo pusher impregnate you?! 🤢🤮
“Idk how ima tell my kid” announces it on television…🤣 Zelle funny
Bambi dont owe Amy shatt!!!
Amy trifling..always wanted Scrap
Karile so fast to give scrappy a hug😂😂
The dating pool must be SMALL in Atlanta and when was Zaine the heart throb? I must not have been born yet! And Amy making a big deal over TO. Girl I wouldn’t be claiming that at all!!
Zane was popping a lil bit back in the early 2000s lol
@@breeze904 so all the way back in the DAY. I feel so old. Lol but idk do you think Zaine is a heart throb?
@@MsEliteMember lol right .too long. But naw he wasn't my cup of ☕. I think we all thought he was cute, but in this weird little brother way 😂 def not a heartthrob.
Amy is just trifling omg.
Karlie vs Sierra- let’s see who is the fastest to date and fastest to break up and fastest to move on to the next one. 🥇🥈Yes! You girls keep working for them 💍s & 🏅s.
I bet on Karlie Redd
I love REAL love. I just hope everyone has healed because these people get engaged more than they change their underwear. And subtlety is a thing - they have taken injections to a whole other level. 😢
nothing that was said about zay sounded complimentary 😂😂😂
Aw Zell is adorable 🥰🥰
Yeah, Santana clearly didn’t really like Zelle like that. You can totally tell the difference in the kind of energy he’s giving this new/old dude.
Him and chef dee been off and on for a long long time
@@breeze904 yes I’m fully aware LMAO that’s why I said New/old dude
All these men on this show are not loyal and committed to their woman.
As a human being, if she cares about Bambi dating him, then she has feelings, period
Yeah... jealousy 😂
Karlee that's a business arrangement and can't me no different
They are starting to get on my nerves 😂
I was the first to comment 😅
I’m with you for real everyone losing their wedding rings
Zane ain’t neva been no heartthrob!!!!! Did I miss something?!???? 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
HOW CAN YOU NOT TRUST SOMEONE BUT GET THEIR NAME TATTED ON YOUR BODY,THAT Dude IS A JOKE AND SANTANA IS A 🐦
Ashley, sweetie… you already knew Kirk and Joc are not the “grown married men” you wanted your man around. Everyone in America knows about Kirk. Bye. 🙄
“I just remember him saying this is wife, but they don’t really really go together or sum like that.” 😩😩😩🤣🤣🤣
Karlie pop out with a new man every season and call it a connection 😭😭