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  • @WeightliftingHouse
    @WeightliftingHouse  3 дні тому +3

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  • @williamshine1346
    @williamshine1346 3 дні тому +16

    Lasha is already the most successful lifter as far as World and Olympic titles at 10. Even if you don’t count 2015 he is still #1. He has nothing left to prove, retire lose 75 kg and live a long and happy life. Thanks for the memories, it was a pleasure following your career.

  • @AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw
    @AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw 3 дні тому +70

    Lasha had given us great moments that the man broke the internet like Eddie and Hafthor. I could care less about the 500kg after hearing he had heart problems and kids. He earned a statue in Georgia

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 дні тому +1

      He definitely gave us some amazing showings of strength. The heart issues are not exactly shocking. Between his bodyweight and more than likely long term ped use doesn't help.

    • @totopolo2379
      @totopolo2379 День тому

      nah 500 or die trying, this show is not for sebs (poosies)

  • @iielysiumx5811
    @iielysiumx5811 3 дні тому +32

    I just want lasha to be happy and healthy and love a long life. He has given so much to this sport

  • @Montie-Adkins
    @Montie-Adkins 3 дні тому +29

    It's cool if Lasha retires. He's done enough without the 500. Gor and Lalayan, I mean, they are so far behind in the C&J. Lalayan at least has the advantage of age as he is only 25 but Gor is already 30.

    • @declanosullivan8749
      @declanosullivan8749 3 дні тому

      Probably seen the best from both of them too, our very close anyway .Both exceptional lifters but just a bit too small at 5'10 or so to be able to clean those big weights, they are very fast though and that's usually the first thing to go, but they may still have time to get close to Lasha snatch, but like you said his C&J is way out of reach. They are a bit too small imo.

  • @alfonsorodriguez6437
    @alfonsorodriguez6437 2 дні тому +5

    Nino's C&J was a gift. That jerk was no valid.

  • @germanwolf9212
    @germanwolf9212 3 дні тому +17

    I don't believe that him being in parliament is a real hindrance to his athletic ambitions.
    It's a gift for him by the government and he'll probably be sitting on his ass doing nothing. The only purpose for him being there is propaganda.
    It would be interesting how far modern enhancements could get him and I'm not just talking about steroids. I'm thinking about stem cell therapy and similar things, which according to at least some strength athletes seem to work quite well.

  • @camerongray7767
    @camerongray7767 3 дні тому +4

    If he never got injured, I think he could have done the 500. Not anymore

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 дні тому

      50/50 maybe. At those weights strength is no longer linear. It's logarithmic. Look at the chase for the 505 kilo deadlift in strongman. You've got guys who are getting it off the ground but are nowhere close to locking it out.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 3 дні тому +1

    I think fighting that decision is reasonable. I'm not sure if it does anything or if anything can be done about it, I like Nino and I'm fine with him winning that medal (I'm biased because I really wanted him to challenge Karlos and at least succeed in the games). But I also think justice should be strived for, even in a losing battle. It can potentially set a precedent or change things that aren't as good as they could be (refereeing decisions, federation's systems etc). I'm glad there's some party that is willing to follow through in what they believe is justice and right, even if the procedure is so difficult and expensive (potentially to prevent using that option).

  • @MarkMiller-i8q
    @MarkMiller-i8q 3 дні тому +5

    Dimas won 3 golds and a bronze.

  • @vazhaamiranashvili3657
    @vazhaamiranashvili3657 3 дні тому +4

    I think the Lasha era is over. Given his age, injuries and the decision to go the politics path are good evidence for that. I personally wish Varazdat Lalayan took his place in the upcoming tournaments as Varazdat deserves to be a world and olympic champion.

    • @JohnDoherty-dl2fz
      @JohnDoherty-dl2fz 2 дні тому +1

      I agree. Lalayan has now inched ahead of Gor. He’s beaten him 4 of 6 X the last 3 years, has out totaled him 467-464, and is 5 years younger. Gor’s misfortune has been that he is only 1 year younger than the greatest super heavy of all time tho he did defeat Lasha at least once and maybe twice as juniors.

    • @totopolo2379
      @totopolo2379 День тому

      @@JohnDoherty-dl2fzhow about gorlock the destroyer of worlds?

  • @DrLeroyArch
    @DrLeroyArch 3 дні тому +1

    Tommy Kono did win 8 WCs in a row (1952-59) when you consider that the Olympics were also considered World Championships in those years. John Davis sort of won 8 in a row if you realize that there were no WCs held from 1939-1945. He won all WCs held from 1938 to 1952 with Olys counting as WCs as with Konos.

  • @mikek7453
    @mikek7453 День тому

    Nino was given a gift, as it is usual when small and big countries compete!!!

  • @jewelsnjoy
    @jewelsnjoy 2 дні тому +1

    Hope this doesnt pan out like the Women's Gymnastics Floor Bronze Medal drama did at the Olympics. In that case, the American athlete was stripped off her bronze medal which was later awarded to the Romanian athlete. There was a flawed judging decision there too and thing were messy for the athletes.

  • @steveshep9234
    @steveshep9234 3 дні тому +3

    i would not not abolish the pressout rule as such but i would abolish the jury. just have the judges see the lift in real time and decide not endless replays to come to the wrong decision. its not perfect solution but its eaisier to live with honest mistakes

    • @emcarpenter5206
      @emcarpenter5206 3 дні тому +3

      Abolish the jury for sure but I think they also need better judges. If you watch a lot of 80s competitions the judges were making much better calls on average. Personally I'm for just getting rid of pressout rule but if not then other improvements are urgently needed.

    • @DrLeroyArch
      @DrLeroyArch 3 дні тому

      A double edged sword here. The jury also has the power to reverse bad referee decisions. Despite bad occurrences like this without a jury overseeing the referees there would be greater temptations for refs to give biased decisions. With a jury the refs have to also worry about their bad decisions being overturned. Having a jury also gives lifters an avenue of appeal. Most sports have some system of "jury" overview. Don't get rid of the jury based on one bad outcome. The cure may be worse than the disease.
      I do agree with you on press-outs. Lifters must "catch" the bar on snatches and jerks, not press it out. Presses and jerks are two different lifts, regardless of what their similar finishing positions and what they may think in Strongman events.

    • @TsarNicholas2nd
      @TsarNicholas2nd 3 дні тому

      Tank Murakami:

  • @Bob_The_Kabob
    @Bob_The_Kabob 3 дні тому +1

    Hopefully Robus loss will lead to good changes for everyone else because they will definitely make the press out rule a big talking point at their upcoming meeting. Even if they dont remove it they will have to make a better more objective way of judging it.

  • @johnpatowary
    @johnpatowary 23 години тому

    Absolutely agreed on Robu's decision to raise the question on the standard of judging in the 89kg wt class. If I may add, even Yenison Lopez had a very clear pressout in his final 210kg C&J attempt. Then Nino Pizzolato had the most glaring Pressouts of the competition. Robu must absolutely contest this outrageous decision and it is seriously unfair to have such preposterous standards of judging in the most important event of an athl;ete's life. Not to forget, Loradena Toma got called for a pressout for the slightest of elbow flicker and Nino gets away with a glaring pressout.

  • @philipmeisterl
    @philipmeisterl 3 дні тому +1

    I dont think you can overturn 3 red lights which is then crazy that it happened they should never have looked at it

  • @MiUnited
    @MiUnited 3 дні тому +5

    Today Lasha made his depute as a parliament member. I don't see him competing any more

    • @giorgitatarashvili3875
      @giorgitatarashvili3875 3 дні тому +4

      Same here but as a Georgian I am happy and proud having Lasha in our parliament, considering the fact that he is the big patriot and terrific human being

    • @Hugh.G.Rection.
      @Hugh.G.Rection. 3 дні тому

      @@giorgitatarashvili3875 what is his political stance?

    • @JohnDoherty-dl2fz
      @JohnDoherty-dl2fz 3 дні тому +1

      Georgia Dreams’ intentions are to kiss Putin’s ass. If you loved the old USSR then Georgia Dream is your party.

    • @JohnDoherty-dl2fz
      @JohnDoherty-dl2fz 3 дні тому

      Hugh. You’re missing An E in the middle of your name.

    • @JohnDoherty-dl2fz
      @JohnDoherty-dl2fz 3 дні тому

      How come you guys at WH pulled my mild political comment. If you know anything about politics you’d know it was an accurate statement. You guys opened this can of worms by mentioning politics right from the get-go.

  • @ConnoisseurOfExistence
    @ConnoisseurOfExistence 3 дні тому +1

    I very much want to see Lasha competing again. However, he's been the goat for me for a long time already. Naim is close 2nd.

  • @Neellssoonn1
    @Neellssoonn1 3 дні тому +11

    Weightlifting House with Weightlifting Drama Names...

    • @jlrbhj
      @jlrbhj 3 дні тому +2

      Change. The. Rule.

    • @totopolo2379
      @totopolo2379 День тому

      there is a reason he is called soy seb

  • @christopherrodriguez2362
    @christopherrodriguez2362 9 годин тому

    This has brought me great sadness

  • @bobbyp8221
    @bobbyp8221 3 дні тому +2

    The judges clearly screwed Robu..yes his technique is ruff. Old dude judges sitting lower than the platform, everything looks like a press out. The least IWF can do is admit the mistake..

  • @jonmolina948
    @jonmolina948 2 дні тому

    Top 10 male weightlifters:
    1. Naim Suleymanoglu
    2. Lasha Talakhadze
    3. Pyrros Dimas
    4. Vasily Alexeev
    5. Kakhi Kakiasvili
    6. Halil Mutlu
    7. Hossein Rezazedeh
    8. Leonid Taranenko
    9. Ronny Weller
    10. Yuri Vardanyan

  • @jsuewrs135
    @jsuewrs135 3 дні тому +1

    I hope Lasha stays for the fourth. But I hope he put his health first. I'd hate to see him go out on a low

  • @seanwhitehall4652
    @seanwhitehall4652 День тому +1

    He can always do Politics.
    Lifting: time runs out.

  • @nilolins
    @nilolins 3 дні тому

    Hey just a heads up, I'm trying to buy the worlds show and the page won't send a link for me to get a new password. I forgot my old one. :(

  • @howarddimburgers6027
    @howarddimburgers6027 3 дні тому +1

    Alexeev won the World Champions in 1970, 1971, 1972,1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, and 1977. That's 8 in a row. Please explain to me why that isn't so. Maybe you're thinking king of the European Championships where Vasily skipped 1976.

    • @DrLeroyArch
      @DrLeroyArch 3 дні тому +1

      I forgot to include VA in my comment. You are correct for the same reasons.

    • @howarddimburgers6027
      @howarddimburgers6027 2 дні тому

      I was at the 1978 World Weightlifting Championships. We were all aware that if Alexeev won it would be his 9th consecutive World title. It was quite the talk for him to dominate like that and hold 80 world records and be 8x European Champion as well. Unfortunately, after a ridiculously easy 240 kilo clean, he injured himself and had to bag the jerk and ultimately withdraw from the competition.

  • @charlesbryant8665
    @charlesbryant8665 3 дні тому +2

    I would love to see Lasha get a fourth Olympic gold and get 500 kgs. His health is an issue. In Japan they have sumo, those guys that weight 150 kgs or more have a life expectancy of 20 years less than the average. So Lasha needs to give it one more try and then lose weight. Politics for Lasha the only political candidate I want is Seb involved in the IWF and IOC.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 дні тому +1

      Yeah. It's like in bodybuilding. The mass monster trend that has been around for a while definitely hurts guys. The body doesn't know if it's 150kg of muscle or fat it just knows it has to work harder. Add in drug use and you don't have the same life span.

    • @totopolo2379
      @totopolo2379 День тому +1

      yes need to drop out of roids too

  • @Lee-ic2yn
    @Lee-ic2yn 3 дні тому +1

    I get the sinclair I really do
    But the fast that people compare lasha to naim is laughable imo, yes naim is small but lasha could lift his records for sets of 10

    • @JohnDoherty-dl2fz
      @JohnDoherty-dl2fz 3 дні тому +1

      Big deal. He is literally 3X the size of what Naim was.

  • @leonardocora4259
    @leonardocora4259 3 години тому

    Assuming Lasha can still use PEDS and keep healthy joints for another 4 years he can definitely win a fourth Olympic Gold, even though Gor has become dangerous lately.

  • @LCWMI
    @LCWMI 2 дні тому +1

    are you going to address Pizzolato’s SA accusation and trial?

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 дні тому

      Wait. Come again. I've missed that one.

    • @LCWMI
      @LCWMI 2 дні тому

      i’ve seen the news on several italian newspapers, he’s been charged with SA on a finnish tourist together with other 3 guys 2 years ago and the trial starts on the 2nd December

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 дні тому

      Well that's not good. If it's gotten to trial there is at least enough evidence that something happened. Unless it's a massive pile of evidence it's a hard case. Lots of he said she said involved. Sadly sometimes a woman will accuse just to get back at a guy. Not saying that is the case here but it's not uncommon for another person to make false allegations to get the other person jammed up.

    • @LCWMI
      @LCWMI 2 дні тому

      @bmstylee yeah, i guess you’re right. it’s also gonna be worse now with all of the political agenda. his and the italian federation’s reputation are on the line here.
      but let’s not forget that he was disqualified for a whole year in a similar context, several years ago. he forced minors to watch his own pornographic videos (as in he having intercourse). it might not mean anything, but i bet it’s gonna come out during the trial.
      Edit: cause of the disqualification

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 2 дні тому

      @LCWMI oh that's not good. Obviously innocent till proven otherwise but that isn't a good thing.

  • @islander75
    @islander75 3 дні тому

    Usain Bolt remains the fastest sprinter ever not because the amount of metals and titles he won , but for his world record.
    Lasha’s records will stay there for long , especially his snatch record.
    So he is the strongest Olympic Weightlifter of all time .
    The GOAT

  • @islander75
    @islander75 3 дні тому +1

    Dimas ( Δημας ) has 3 golds 🥇and 1 bronze 🥉, not silver

    • @totopolo2379
      @totopolo2379 День тому

      soy interferes a lot with sebs feminine brain

  • @girlfromlacounty
    @girlfromlacounty 3 дні тому +11

    I hope Moldova wins the suit for Robu.

  • @lepepus
    @lepepus 2 дні тому

    I dont know, I think with the trend of last year or 2, I think in 4 years he might be beatable. He's already the GOAT in my opinion. Leave at the top.
    Lalayan is young and trending up...

  • @notdunntravelling
    @notdunntravelling 3 дні тому

    Past his prime, would love to see him just retire. Still one of the GOATs

  • @EmorettaRobinson
    @EmorettaRobinson 3 дні тому +3

    I had no idea that Lasha had gotten involved in politics. That's amazing and really good news. I'm hoping that he will compete again. I personally think he's already at goat status. However another Olympic would be nice to see if he chooses to go for it. Granted I know very little about him because I've only been following the sport since Nov/Dec of 2022. But finding this channel late at night when I couldn't sleep because I was dealing with the loss of a friend that I've had since '98 was one of the best things I've done in the last couple of years. I have a huge amount of respect for the athletes who compete. And I look forward to more competitions with Seb and Max commentating. As a newbie I find that those two are a wealth of information. Plus the people in the live chat have proven to be interesting and some are outright hilarious. And Dan has been very helpful in answering questions that anyone watching the live stream might have. So with those things in mind I'm looking forward to seeing what will happen during the upcoming competition. I also just noticed that Seb's beard is more reddish in color and the hair on his head is not. I always think it's interesting when men have the ability to grow hair that is two different colors naturally. I know that last part was completely unrelated though. So in conclusion I'm looking forward to the upcoming competition.

  • @Fisher_Munro
    @Fisher_Munro День тому

    I'm too new to this sport. Why is that considered a bad lift? Nino's feet are too wide apart?

  • @nchinth
    @nchinth День тому +1

    500 isn't possible just yet. it isn't lasha. humans just haven't gotten to that point yet. maybe another 40 - 50 years

  • @wingatelee283
    @wingatelee283 18 годин тому

    The man done enough, drop some weight and live long happy life

  • @davidochsner
    @davidochsner 3 дні тому +5

    People in and around Lasha? 🤨

  • @UTubeRepossessions
    @UTubeRepossessions День тому

    He should go to the enhanced games and smash the 500 total...

  • @giorgitatarashvili3875
    @giorgitatarashvili3875 3 дні тому +1

    Lasha is the legend of weightlifting, big patriot and terrific person. Wish him success and great future 🥇🥇🥇

  • @MadeYourVideo
    @MadeYourVideo 2 дні тому

    Well, Robu was robbed! It was clear that the judges did something wrong, for unknown reasons. This has nothing to do with fairness in the sport of weightlifting.

  • @AdStellae-
    @AdStellae- 3 дні тому +89

    What is terrible is the fact that Lasha is politically involved with a party trying to appease Russia and actively silencing journalists in Georgia.

    • @giorgitatarashvili3875
      @giorgitatarashvili3875 3 дні тому

      თუ შენ ქართველი ხარ კარგა გცემდი თუ უცხოელი აბა აუდე აქედან და პირი დაიბანე სანამ ლაშაზე, საქართველოზე ან ხელისუფლებაზე რამეს იტყვი. უზრდელი ვირიშვილი ეს

    • @cocomatef
      @cocomatef 3 дні тому

      Silencing journalists🤣Do you even know what is the foreign agent law?First of all it's nothing to do with Russia. It's american legislation from the 20th century. The media which aims at influencing citizens , instead of beeing objective, while implementing and defending foreign interests should be stigmatised! Good for Lasha!He has chosen the side of reason as americans did two weeks ago!

    • @najjaciBRE
      @najjaciBRE 3 дні тому +23

      What’s the other option? Free western ideology? Give me a break

    • @qltcn
      @qltcn 3 дні тому +14

      That's far from terrible, and, in fact, based.

    • @andrewrivera4029
      @andrewrivera4029 3 дні тому

      If you haven’t noticed journalists world wide have been co-opted by woke leftist elite world government and has abandoned the people. I will give Lasha the benefit of the doubt.

  • @fabiobonetta5454
    @fabiobonetta5454 3 дні тому +4

    I know it's dumb, but I'm going for It anyway: Georgian government will be strong with him in It.
    I'm done. Thanks for the content.

  • @cheeks7050
    @cheeks7050 3 дні тому +1

    I want the 500

  • @cocomatef
    @cocomatef 3 дні тому +9

    Nope, no chance for the 500 total.Lasha missed his momentums' peak a couple of years ago...Another olympic gold is also out of the question.

    • @MarkHanson-du3qs
      @MarkHanson-du3qs 3 дні тому +3

      absolutely, he is on the downward slope.

    • @iielysiumx5811
      @iielysiumx5811 3 дні тому +6

      Yeah I fully agree, his best chance of hitting it was in 2021 after the 225/267 in Moscow. Apparently he was training for it after that comp however that’s when he started to have serious injuries and health issues. So yeah 500 is out of the question for lasha at this point. Another Olympic gold? Looks very unlikely, Gor and Lalyan are really pushing lasha and they just keep getting better and better, I suspect once one of them breaks through 218 on the snatch the floodgates will open, that mental barrier will be gone. That’s not even considering that lashas performances have been slowly declining in the last couple of years. Honestly, I hope he just retires and leaves his legacy in tact, don’t do a Brian shaw and attempt to keep pushing when it just isn’t there anymore

    • @genautelevishn5999
      @genautelevishn5999 День тому

      that's what everyone says every time

  • @LucilleMilo
    @LucilleMilo 2 дні тому

    would be nice if you actually showed the controversial lift, or at least said "hey, this is the lift" for the lesser informed.

    • @WeightliftingHouse
      @WeightliftingHouse  2 дні тому

      Unfortunately we don’t have the rights to show Olympic footage

  • @jakesimpson8952
    @jakesimpson8952 3 дні тому

    he needs to take a long time off, he has so many injuries.

  • @bmstylee
    @bmstylee 2 дні тому

    Payouts and titles. So just standard political corruption.

  • @loreleifajardo2430
    @loreleifajardo2430 2 дні тому

    Isnt he has bone on bone knee OA level 4?

    • @JohnDoherty-dl2fz
      @JohnDoherty-dl2fz 2 дні тому

      Just reading that description is making my knees ache.

  • @cheeks7050
    @cheeks7050 3 дні тому +1

    I hope the lawsuit goes some way to changing the god-awful interpretation of the Press-out rule. Robu was indeed robbed by the standards of today's lifting.

  • @totopolo2379
    @totopolo2379 День тому

    soy seb implying drama where there is none.

  • @tfwwhennofitlitgf3300
    @tfwwhennofitlitgf3300 3 дні тому

    Reddit will not be happy about Lasha being a Georgian Dream MP

  • @LatimusChadimus
    @LatimusChadimus 3 дні тому

    🏋🏋🏋

  • @totopolo2379
    @totopolo2379 День тому

    so robu was robbed lol

  • @jsuewrs135
    @jsuewrs135 3 дні тому

    It didn't look good. That's for sure. Corrupted comes to mind when you see how it went down

  • @genova8148
    @genova8148 3 дні тому +2

    First!

  • @theweekendmasterswarrior990
    @theweekendmasterswarrior990 2 дні тому

    After he retires, Lasha can focus on powerlifting, specifically breaking the deadlift world record! I think that Lasha can deadlift 505kg with minimal training.

    • @AmericanBulldogFit
      @AmericanBulldogFit День тому

      Why, because he does clean and jerk? You're dreaming buddy.

    • @theweekendmasterswarrior990
      @theweekendmasterswarrior990 День тому

      @AmericanBulldogFit
      Because Lasha can c&j 270kg. Do you think any strongman like Hooper, Shaw, or Thor can do anything with 270kg other than deadlifting it? Can they even continental clean 240kg? Doubt it.

    • @AmericanBulldogFit
      @AmericanBulldogFit День тому

      @@theweekendmasterswarrior990 Yes, they can bench press it. Go home and train hard. You talk too much.

    • @theweekendmasterswarrior990
      @theweekendmasterswarrior990 День тому

      @AmericanBulldogFit
      Didn't Thor tear his pec trying to bench 252kg? Besides, bench press moves the weight less than 2 feet vs c&j moving the weight what, about 8 1/2 feet in Lasha's case? Point is, at 6-6, 400+lbs, and demi-god genetics, Lasha can deadlift 505kg if he really wants to. And I am too old to train hard, just maintenance now. 😆

  • @Villanforsome
    @Villanforsome 3 дні тому +1

    He is an embarrassment, from hero to zero.

  • @Frogman125
    @Frogman125 3 дні тому

    He needs a break. First he needs to get healthy. He should adopt a general fitness routine, along with a keto/carnivore diet to lose a boat load of fat. His obesity is limiting his true potential. His cardiovascular health is limiting his ability to train at the volume and capacity that could produce a 280 KG C&J and a 240KG snatch. He's fat. He's unhealthy and he's still a young man. His coaches and handlers are complicit in this. Wake up, do right.

    • @madworld109
      @madworld109 3 дні тому

      His coaches took him to 3 Olympic Golds, 7 World Championships and the heaviest lifts of all time. You sure you can do better? This is elite level sport. It's not healthy in the slightest, that's just the nature of it

    • @Frogman125
      @Frogman125 2 дні тому

      @@madworld109 I'm not judging their technical or programmatic coaching. I'm looking at the athlete across the spectrum of performance, wellness and health. Don't forget, he had a cardiovascular episode at 23. His coaches, like many seem focused on performance only. Somebody needs to look out for his wellness, his health. The Chinese model of overall fitness, wellness is a great example of balance. Weightlifting doesn't have to be unhealthy.