I love both these lenses. The 25mm was provided free as part of a Panasonic redemption program. I already had paid for the 20mm lens. You can prize that lens out of my cold dead fingers. It is THE lens that is always attached to my camera, and always the first lens packed. I have had focus issues where the 25mm refused point blank to focus, however now it seems to be working well. The 20mm is slow to focus and wont work on AFC, but works fine on AFS. PS the GX8 is a superior camera to the GX9.
I like the 20mm Pana pancake a lot. Mainly because of it‘s size and weight. I find the AF the only drawback, sometimes the lack of weathersealing. It even makes the G9 fairly small. Actually, the Pana 42.5 f1.7 and either the 20mm or the 15mm is all I need. I could toss the 35-100mm f4-5.6 in the bag too.
I have had both lenses, though sold the 25mm 1.7 when I upgraded to the Panny Leica 25mm 1.4. I was out with the 20mm yesterday taking night photos with my trusty GF3 and it did a great job. I'd say the 25mm 1.7 is a better choice for video and fast action, and has pretty speedy autofocus.
Yes, I owned both the 25mm lens-specifically, the LEICA version-and later the 20mm pancake lens from Panasonic. In my opinion, the 25mm f/1.4 from Leica was not particularly sharp. The photos appeared slightly washed out and lacked clarity when viewed at 100%. A comparison with Panasonic's 25mm f/1.7 confirmed this: the less expensive lens was noticeably sharper and offered richer contrast. Reluctantly, I sold the LEICA lens. Instead, I purchased the SIGMA 30mm f/1.4, which delivers exceptionally sharp images and provides some advantages in terms of focal length. The 25mm focal length-and, I might argue, any 25mm lens-tends to distort faces slightly when used for close-up portraits. Interestingly, this issue doesn’t arise when shooting in landscape orientation. By contrast, the SIGMA 30mm lens, though bulky and heavy, is designed for APS-C cameras and adapted for MFT mounts. It does not introduce this distortion. Having been a hobby photographer since 1970, I’m accustomed to the 50mm lens, which was standard with 35mm cameras at the time. Every photographer working with 35mm film used that focal length. Personally, I don’t just find it uninspiring-I actively dislike it. I was thrilled when I bought my first 135mm telephoto lens for my Minolta SRT-101. Later, I added a 35mm wide-angle lens, but I quickly traded it for a 28mm lens. That was a revelation: finally, a fresh perspective and no more dull 50mm. I only used this lens for darker light conditions, because the ISO of film was very low and couldn't be changed at all for slides. Black and white was different. Incidentally, the SIGMA 30mm is so sharp that I sometimes need to use soft focus for portraits. My GX80 or GX9 almost always has the 15mm PanaLeica lens mounted, but for group shots, I prefer the 20mm lens because it introduces less distortion. I tried the PanaLeica 10-20mm f/1.7 once, but it was so heavy that my arms were sore afterward. If I were a professional photographer, I would invest in that lens along with the 25-50mm f/1.7, pairing them with a GH7 and G9 Mark II for maximum flexibility at events like weddings. However, as a hobbyist, I’m content with my current setup. There is a newer version of the PanaLeica 25mm f/1.4 that is dust- and splash-proof and significantly sharper than the model I owned. Interestingly, there are also two versions of the 20mm lens: the older one is said to be slightly sharper than the newer version. I own both but have not noticed any significant difference between them.
HMMMMMMMM🤔i have the Canon EF-S 24mm (call it 40mm FF) and love it and same with my pancake EF 40MM. For M43 (trying to keep my travel kit small) I opted for the Panny Leica 25mm (50FF). I always like a portrait veering option that can double as a walkaround first................The 40mm is a smashing option.....
I use OM Systems 20mm f/1.4 PRO as well as Olympus 17mm and 25mm f/1.8 both on Olympus E-M5 and Panasonic G95. Like these lenses. 20mm my favorite so far.
"Go super ninja mode" Can that be mapped to a rear button? I have the 20mm 1.7, but to be honest it rarely gets out to play. Street photography is interesting but not my photography lifeblood. No 25mm 1.7, but I have the TTArtisans 25mm. (Cheap and cheerful) I should make an effort to compare the two FLs for myself; otherwise I have no clue.
the 20 1.7 (on my GF1) was what sold me on the MFT system and still, over a decade later, one of my favourites never much liked the 25 1.7 I had both the 25 1.7 and 1.4 and just found the 1.4 a so much better lens image character wise so sold off the 25 1.7 getting hard to find the 1.4 at a good price on the used market mine cost ~$400AUD about when the vII came out but now seems to be hovering around $750 in the used market not that cheaper than the vII I've only had focusing issues once with the 20 1.7 and that was in a low contrast "urban abstract" scene - form cast concrete - but changed to single spot focus point and focused on a form artefact it nailed it, its slower than many lenses at focus but again never had an issue it's not a sports or action lens - still faster than manually focusing on my old film rangefinders or manual focus on my X100s (actually it's faster than autofocus on my X100s)
I wouldn’t say lumix 20mm f1.7 has slow focus, at least for the second version. It’s completely usable on the oldest om-d camera from Olympus. And Fuji 27mm f2.8, which has the same focal length, has much slower autofocus. The 20mm f1.7 is the reason why I switched from Fuji to M43.
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I like 20mm. I also have the oly 20mm f1.4 pro.
I use the Lumix 20mm (2nd generation) on my EM 5iii. It's a great alround focal length and a very easy carry.
I love both these lenses. The 25mm was provided free as part of a Panasonic redemption program. I already had paid for the 20mm lens. You can prize that lens out of my cold dead fingers. It is THE lens that is always attached to my camera, and always the first lens packed.
I have had focus issues where the 25mm refused point blank to focus, however now it seems to be working well.
The 20mm is slow to focus and wont work on AFC, but works fine on AFS.
PS the GX8 is a superior camera to the GX9.
I like the 20mm Pana pancake a lot. Mainly because of it‘s size and weight. I find the AF the only drawback, sometimes the lack of weathersealing.
It even makes the G9 fairly small.
Actually, the Pana 42.5 f1.7 and either the 20mm or the 15mm is all I need. I could toss the 35-100mm f4-5.6 in the bag too.
I have both as the prices are really low.
Another recommendation Grant get the Sigma 60mm 2.8. Can also be used as a macro with an intermediate ring.
I have had both lenses, though sold the 25mm 1.7 when I upgraded to the Panny Leica 25mm 1.4. I was out with the 20mm yesterday taking night photos with my trusty GF3 and it did a great job. I'd say the 25mm 1.7 is a better choice for video and fast action, and has pretty speedy autofocus.
Very nice!
Yes, I owned both the 25mm lens-specifically, the LEICA version-and later the 20mm pancake lens from Panasonic. In my opinion, the 25mm f/1.4 from Leica was not particularly sharp. The photos appeared slightly washed out and lacked clarity when viewed at 100%. A comparison with Panasonic's 25mm f/1.7 confirmed this: the less expensive lens was noticeably sharper and offered richer contrast. Reluctantly, I sold the LEICA lens.
Instead, I purchased the SIGMA 30mm f/1.4, which delivers exceptionally sharp images and provides some advantages in terms of focal length. The 25mm focal length-and, I might argue, any 25mm lens-tends to distort faces slightly when used for close-up portraits. Interestingly, this issue doesn’t arise when shooting in landscape orientation. By contrast, the SIGMA 30mm lens, though bulky and heavy, is designed for APS-C cameras and adapted for MFT mounts. It does not introduce this distortion.
Having been a hobby photographer since 1970, I’m accustomed to the 50mm lens, which was standard with 35mm cameras at the time. Every photographer working with 35mm film used that focal length. Personally, I don’t just find it uninspiring-I actively dislike it. I was thrilled when I bought my first 135mm telephoto lens for my Minolta SRT-101. Later, I added a 35mm wide-angle lens, but I quickly traded it for a 28mm lens. That was a revelation: finally, a fresh perspective and no more dull 50mm. I only used this lens for darker light conditions, because the ISO of film was very low and couldn't be changed at all for slides. Black and white was different.
Incidentally, the SIGMA 30mm is so sharp that I sometimes need to use soft focus for portraits.
My GX80 or GX9 almost always has the 15mm PanaLeica lens mounted, but for group shots, I prefer the 20mm lens because it introduces less distortion. I tried the PanaLeica 10-20mm f/1.7 once, but it was so heavy that my arms were sore afterward. If I were a professional photographer, I would invest in that lens along with the 25-50mm f/1.7, pairing them with a GH7 and G9 Mark II for maximum flexibility at events like weddings. However, as a hobbyist, I’m content with my current setup.
There is a newer version of the PanaLeica 25mm f/1.4 that is dust- and splash-proof and significantly sharper than the model I owned. Interestingly, there are also two versions of the 20mm lens: the older one is said to be slightly sharper than the newer version. I own both but have not noticed any significant difference between them.
HMMMMMMMM🤔i have the Canon EF-S 24mm (call it 40mm FF) and love it and same with my pancake EF 40MM. For M43 (trying to keep my travel kit small) I opted for the Panny Leica 25mm (50FF). I always like a portrait veering option that can double as a walkaround first................The 40mm is a smashing option.....
I use OM Systems 20mm f/1.4 PRO as well as Olympus 17mm and 25mm f/1.8 both on Olympus E-M5 and Panasonic G95. Like these lenses. 20mm my favorite so far.
"Go super ninja mode"
Can that be mapped to a rear button?
I have the 20mm 1.7, but to be honest it rarely gets out to play. Street photography is interesting but not my photography lifeblood. No 25mm 1.7, but I have the TTArtisans 25mm. (Cheap and cheerful) I should make an effort to compare the two FLs for myself; otherwise I have no clue.
the 20 1.7 (on my GF1) was what sold me on the MFT system and still, over a decade later, one of my favourites
never much liked the 25 1.7 I had both the 25 1.7 and 1.4 and just found the 1.4 a so much better lens image character wise so sold off the 25 1.7 getting hard to find the 1.4 at a good price on the used market mine cost ~$400AUD about when the vII came out but now seems to be hovering around $750 in the used market not that cheaper than the vII
I've only had focusing issues once with the 20 1.7 and that was in a low contrast "urban abstract" scene - form cast concrete - but changed to single spot focus point and focused on a form artefact it nailed it, its slower than many lenses at focus but again never had an issue it's not a sports or action lens - still faster than manually focusing on my old film rangefinders or manual focus on my X100s (actually it's faster than autofocus on my X100s)
I wouldn’t say lumix 20mm f1.7 has slow focus, at least for the second version. It’s completely usable on the oldest om-d camera from Olympus. And Fuji 27mm f2.8, which has the same focal length, has much slower autofocus. The 20mm f1.7 is the reason why I switched from Fuji to M43.
Compared to the PL 15mm or the OMS 20mm 1.4 it IS very slow.
@ yes it’s slower than newer models, but the price of the lumix 20mm is half the cost of the pana leica 15mm. Still a very capable lens
What are your thoughts on the 10-25mm f/1.7? Do the primes look better?
Well, I’ve never used that lens - But it is Leica branded, so I think the optics would be better :)
If it wasn‘t so big and expensive, it would be the perfect lens.