Crush It As A Plant-Based Athlete | Rich Roll Podcast
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- Matt Frazier & Robert Cheeke join Rich to bust myths about protein, fitness, and nutrition, and share their new book, "The Plant-Based Athlete." To read more, click here 👉🏾 bit.ly/richroll608
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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:01:37 - Catching Up with OG Plant-Based Athletes
00:05:29 - Robert Cheeke's Background - Vegan Body Builder
00:12:30 - Matt Frazier's Background - Vegan Ultramarathon Runner
00:18:48 - New Book "The Plant Based Athlete"
00:23:48 - You Don't Need to Be Perfect with Your Diet
00:31:54 - The Plantpower Meal Planner
00:33:30 - Vegan Myth-bust - It's Not a Restrictive Diet
00:39:17 - Why Go Plant-Based?
00:46:40 - Reducing Inflammation and Improving Recovery
00:51:50 - Latest Scientific Studies with Plant-Based Diets
00:54:37 - The Plant-Based Strength & Body-Building World
00:57:34 - Where to You Get Your Protein?
01:10:17 - Responsible Diet Supplementation
01:20:38 - Matt's Kids Being Plant-Based Athletes
01:25:50 - Myth-Bust - It Takes Too Much Work to Eat Plant-Based
01:29:13 - Plant-Based Fast Food Options: Good or Bad?
01:33:32 - Eating Plant-Based Can Be Convenient & Inexpensive
01:38:02 - Setting Yourself Up to Make Healthy Choices
01:42:33 - Other Great Resources in the New Book
01:43:44 - A Day in the Life of Robert
01:48:14 - Fitness Results Change with Age
01:53:51 - Mindful Advocacy
02:05:15 - “Why Isn't There a Study About This?"
02:10:38 - Reaching a Tipping Point with Plant-Based Athletes
02:18:29 - Dealing with Naysayers
02:27:37 - Closing Remarks
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Thank you, Rich!
Hi Sir what is the brand of your microphone condenser? Thank you Sir
Hey Rick I started like a year ago plant based and went from 185 to 195 pure muscle and feel great anyway really enjoying the content god bless
Rick try and get Dane wigginton on from geo engineering watch he’s in Redding CA lives off grid anyway no one is talking about the chemicals being sprayed all over the world everyday bill gates just gave 10 billion dollars to fund more misery on us
Going vegan was the best thing I ever did. 15 years in and still going strong!!
My inspiration is Dr. Ruth Heidrich. She’s currently 88 years old, but went vegan after a cancer diagnosis at the age of 47. After her diet change, she did 6 iron man, 67 marathons and over 900 races. She’s just awesome. This book must be great to read.
Is it a coincidence that most plant based individuals are genuine, decent, friendly people. It's a pleasure to hear these gentlemen speak. Also, seems like Rich is getting younger by the day.
funny how i had the exact opposite experience where the best and calmest and most layedback people i've met are carnivores and most of the vegans i met are skinny weird loud and annoying. i guess it works both ways
@@sohibmohamed9548 Nothing communicates as clearly that you're one of " the best and calmest and most layedback people" (sic) as going to a forum of people with trait X and telling them how "skinny weird loud and annoying" they all are.
@@keedt oh so youre one of "safe space" guys arent you. you got triggered by a random comment that didnt mention you in any way. and how did you assume im not a vegan?
@@sohibmohamed9548 you aren't though are you? Go on, keep revealing how calm, good and laid-back you are.
@@keedt im not tge one triggered by a comment that doesnt mention me
This is an awesome video. I'm a 56 year old bodybuilder who ate animal products and used muscle supplements my whole life since 14 years old. I woke up to a lot things I could be doing better. I'm going to put this new information to the test.
You need to get Earthing Ed and Joey Carbstrong on the pod cast, love them two
Definitely! We need some animal right activism on this channel
And Anita Kranjc from Toronto Cow Save!
I feel like Rich is reluctant to have too many animal rights people on because it might drive away more omnivorous viewers, or vegans concerned primary about health… but the health people seem to be secretly driven by ethics in a lot of cases (including these guys) so let’s be real and talk about it… he had James Aspey on so anything’s possible. Joey and Ed would probably be better guests anyway!
He just had Earthling Ed on recently :)
Robert’s posture 💯! Met him at the Plantrician conference in 2017 which I photographed. Had the opportunity to sit and eat with him a few times and discuss our regimens. Such an awesome humble dude - positive energy flows from this brother. It was also cool to meet Rich who spoke at the conference.
This was great! I love hearing from people with a history in animal agriculture. My undergrad bachelor's degree is in Agriculture with a focus on Animal and Dairy Science (obviously pre-vegan). I have felt better mentally, physically, and spiritually these past years being plant-based vegan than I ever have in my life. I found a sense of peace I never even knew I was missing. Just pre-ordered the book, and I can't wait to get it. =)
I cannot wait to read this! Thank you so much for having them on. I’m 31, a 5’3” female (vegan for twelve years), and am just now starting my bodybuilding journey. Amazing inspiration!!🌿
I’m just kicking off a plant-based marathon training program (at 55) so this is perfect timing. Can’t wait to get the book.
Me to! :)
How is it going now, 8 mo later? Who did you use?
How'd it go?? I bet you crushed it.
Rich, Matt and Robert- Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge about eating plant-based! In particular your discussion about raising kids on a plant-based diet ~1 hr 20 min really hit home. Last night my 10-year-old daughter said, "Mom, I hate to tell you this, but I don't think I want to eat vegan anymore. I never wanted to eat vegan to begin with anyway." This did not surprise me because she is one of those kids who likes saying exactly...what she thinks...you most don't want to hear...just to see how you respond. A couple of years ago when she was still eating animal foods, she saw how I was eating WFPB and wanted to become vegan like me. You get the picture, I'm sure. Plus, like mother-like daughter, she questions everything. We must be doing some things right! :) Anyhow, I've been eating plant-based now for 4 years and my family has transitioned to ~95% plant-based over the last couple years. My husband and I want to allow our daughter (and our 7-yr old son) to make their own minds up on big things like religion and diet, but it's challenging not dictating what they eat when you know that what you eat really matters long-term. On top of that, my daughter says she just wants to eat like her friends and eat like "normal people" (the kids at her school are mostly eating a typical omnivore diet). Rich, I think you could do a whole separate podcast on how to navigate the fine line of raising healthy kids in a world where eating optimal is not the norm...please consider! Of course, I want our kids to be independent-minded, but at the same time I want them to benefit from what I have learned so they don't suffer some of the consequences I have from previously eating a SAD diet when I just didn't have the knowledge. Thanks so much! #mountainfootballkid
Nice job, guys!
You would be great on this show @Hench Herbivore x
You are simply amazing guys, inspiring me to get plant-based nutrition off the ground in Europe for 3 years now :)
Hey, Rich, I know it is sometimes a challenge to have two guys, particularly when one of them (Matt, in this case) is on the quiet side, and not one across from you at your table. 'Still, due to your laudable sensitivity you were able to engage both of your guests. Robert, brimming with enthusiasm and knowledge was simply terrific and heck, it would be even better if he had his own regular podcast. Because of him, I believe this episode deserves serious consideration when you compile your 'Top Ten' shows at the end of the year.
Loved this interview!!! Robert Cheeke is one of the nicest humans and Matt Frazier seems to be similar! This was fantastic!
Was looking forward to receiving "The Plant Based Athlete" book - but now we are super excited. This was just tremendous, and Robert you always make us smile!!!
Great interview and can't wait for the book to come out!! I'm super excited to read it. Also love seeing all the comments here, and the strength and positivism of the plant based community! After 20+ years following a whole food plant based diet I'm so excited to see the growth and evolution of the community, and all the great information and support available.
My walk this morning had this pod cast along for the ride, and the walk was easier to do.
Great bunch of Guys! Your Podcasts are great Rich. Ordered the new book last week even though I have been Vegan 37 years (51 now) and started racing dirt bikes (enduro) at 45 Years old and now race and often beat the hotshot kids at their own race, they don't like it much. Vegan Power all the way. Haven't been sick to need a doctor in 37 years, go figure! Keep up the great work
Love this I'm so inspired can't wait to get my training started and the vegan journey 💫🔥🏆
How's your journey going??
Loved this! Going plant-based was the best thing I did for my athletic performance. Vegan for 8 years and I'm leaner and fitter than I was in my early twenties. Thanks for sharing!
Rob is an absolute hero
It's so refreshing to hear Robert talk about navigating social situations. He's human!!
So good gentlemen!!! When we are firm in our beliefs (our why) there is no need to defend oneself. I always bring my food to work and a dish to social gatherings for all to sample 🌱. Great episode, thank you!!
Nice one. Been out of the Rich podcast cycle recently. I'm back in the loop!
Nice one Rich! Appreciate your work.
Love!! Roberts Shred it! was very instrumental to my plant based journey as was Brandon’s Thrive and Vega products. 90s plant based diet was an entirety different experience as it is today - much of what I learned early on is the foundation. I also want to mention Victoria Buotenko - Green For Life! ☮️🌱💚
Great great show. Watched this one over a couple sessions. Have loved Matt Frazier and his pod for a long time now, and I was totally disarmed by Robert's enthusiasm and depth of experience! Can't wait to get the book!
Just purchased the audiobook version via Audible, stoked to listen!
!!! thank you guys i was always watching for these tips so way to hit the nail on the head with a whole eppie on it! thank you!!
This was a great podcast. Really enjoyed the conversation with these gentlemen!
Finally, I was waiting for this episode
Robert thank you for sharing your vulnerability about your anxiety that's such an important example that we are human and your transparency is exactly what the world needs.
So grateful for this! Thank you
Love your vid! Appreciate all the info shared! It is always a pleasure and privilege to listen to conscientious vegans talk about why veganism is so important. I don’t have any vegan friends and I do feel like an outsider especially at social gatherings. However, I strongly believe in veganism and the info shared here will help me answer questions from carnivores. Thanks to all your efforts, folks are slowly getting informed about the plant based movement and all the health benefits. With metta, Mary. May there are more healthy vegans join our movement!
Just got my book today! Loved hearing these guys talk
I'm going to tuck into a tub of Ben and Jerry's cookies on cookie dough vegan ice cream, taking a break from my usual wholefood vegan diet and feel great about it
Pre-ordered book a couple weeks ago-----
Anxiously awaiting!
amazing! book ordered already for some inspo! 🌱💚
Dear Robert, You are extraordinarily detail oriented saving tofu packages etc and committed, Very impressive. So happy to get to know you today! Thank you Rich!
Just what I needed!
Just got the book! Can't wait to give it a read. Thanks for having them on Rich
Excellent interview! Just ordered the book and am looking forward to reading. Just have to say I've been using the Complement supplement for several months now and it is amazing. Love how it's responsibly sourced and produced. Same goes for their protein powder!
I loved that conversation!
The book arrived yesterday! Great addition to the podcast- will definitely help in advocacy 🌱🌱🌱👏🏽👏🏽
Again another great podcast thank you so much Rich!
I wish you would invite John McDougall and even Dr. Furman , individually though, because you have a great gift, as you manage always to leave the other one person you’re interviewing in their own worth and to bring out their own best messages and sharing’s
Love and appreciate the vulnerability of these men!
Fantastic interview! I bought 2 books and will get at least 2 more for additional gifts 🎁🌱💪🏼 Thank you guys! 👍🏼💗
I truly love living whole food, plant based. Like I just love it. How it makes me feel, the taste, the spiritual aspect, which isn't made up, at least not for me. Like I just feel lighter, more whole. And I don't have to live with the guilt that I'm contributing to the unbelievable suffering of animals.
Great discussion
Great interview! Thanks!!
Great Podcast as always Rich
Great episode, one of the best.
Love the new haircut & glasses combo rich. Looking happy & great!
I'm really enjoying listening to the book on Audible. It really is a great book, so far!
Great podcast guys, just went out and got the book!
Soooo excited about this one ! Thanks and much love xxx
From the UK!
I got the book and am loving it. So easy to understand and absorb
Great podcast. I listen to all the plant based programs. Learn something new every time. Just 1comment though. I've been plant based for 5 years now. However I was recently diagnosed with NCGS-non celiac gluten sensitivity. Suffering from headaches, body pain, cerebral ataxia, fatigue etc. This being an issue I have to avoid all wheat, rye, and barely products. Maybe this can be a topic for those eating a Vegan and plant based diet? Would really like to see some more attention brought to this issue. Thanks for all the great podcast.
If you are eating whole foods, it is actually not at all difficult to avoid gluten on a PB diet. I do it myself and have lots of friends who do. Good luck and hope you’re back to feeling well again soon.
Definitely getting their book
Following your calorie intake when switching to plant based is essential if you want to reap all the benefits until you know how and what to eat. Also the switch is always strange at first for the body, but gradually you start feeling better and better. Don't switch to a plant-based diet only for 1-3 months - it takes time for the body and gut to adjust.
Awesome guys!! Thanks rich
Thank you!
please keep it under an hour this is insane
I’m up for helping there Robert. Having hit 40 I’m happy to participate in such a study
Comes out tomorrow but just pre-ordered 😀
ive been trying to go more plant based but when i get really busy, i keep opting for easy options like chicken (which now can be microwaved in 2 min) and potato chips (instead of cutting up my own potato and cooking it). But im encouraged to try again
I became a vegetarian in 1988. There was not much information in Spain at the time. I lost a lot of muscular weight as a result (I was bodybuilding then, since 1979). I kept being a vegetarian until 42 years old. During all of those years of vegetarianism (18) I was combining bodybuilding with running on a daily basis. I weighted under 60 kgs for 1,76m (132 pounds/5 feet 9 inches) and my libido was zero. An evening a car knocked me down while I was jogging and during the month I spent without working out made my mind up to make a change.
I began eating an omnivore diet and that entailed a turning point in my life (at that moment I hadn't had sex for 20 solid years).
Now I am about to turn 57 and I haven't eaten any kind of meat for one month (to be honest, chicken and turkey were the only meats I've eaten in the past 15 years). I was feeling fine, health is not the question. It has to do with animals' lives. As Robert wholeheartedly explains on the podcast, it is a matter of empathy with other sentient beings. Perhaps the whole issue boils down to that fact.
That's quite funny. Since I turned vegan many years ago, I've been getting massive morning wood as if I was 14 y.o. again. To the point of this being embarrassing :) This is not to mention what happened to my sex drive. Not sure if this is more of a benefit or a problem, honestly, haha. But yeah, when you don't quite know what you're doing, you can easily undereat a lot and lose your mojo due to the pure lack of nutrition. Just be mindful of that the lower caloric density can mean you're consuming less than you should. Track your diet in Cronometer / MyFitnessPal for a month or so or just find some dietician-made meal plans when you're transitioning
@@Limemill Thank you so much for the advice. By the way, fist time I come across "morning wood". I've looked for the meaning on Google and, well, you made my day 😆
Thanks a lot for the idiomatic expression!
@@jorgeromera3861 Take care brother, haha :)
Super interesting and inspirational
"𝑨𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒕𝒉 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒆 𝒈𝒐𝒂𝒍𝒔 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒆, 𝒃𝒖𝒕 𝒎𝒐𝒓𝒆 𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒔𝒊𝒃𝒍𝒆 𝒃𝒚 𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈..."
Yes, exactly! We need to educate ourselves all our lives - put some knowledge into our head! Thank you Rich! Great interview! 🤩🤗
💯💯 💯
Profound truth
There were "Food Not Bombs" peeps at my community garden in NY
I'd participate in the adequate protein study.
Hello from Belgium, Europe, I really loved to listen to Robert, i think he is a very good speaker, thanks to Matt also. Thank you to Rich Roll for creating these podcasts. I have been eating plant based for two years now. I always ate quite healthy, but did eat some meat (Organic grass fed) and some eggs from chick from an organic farm near by i live.
But now, since i have been eating plant based, i seem to have problems with my liver, and i am trying to find out what's going wrong. I eat lots of green leaf and vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, some legumes, rice, quinoa, potatoes, sweet potatoes etc ( iam am allergic to dairy and we don't eat gluten).
So i wonder what i am doing wrong...So maybe i am not eating enough? ( I bike a lot (every day for two or three hours) and have an active life. I don't want to eat meat or any animals, i cannot anymore. So my search for foods to improve my liver problems (and toxins staying in my body) have'nt been easy... Thank you Love Michèle
WHY NOT TRY GERSON PROTOCOL. --
COFFEE ENEMAS TO DETOX LIVER FROM YEARS OF CONSUMING ANIMAL PRODUCTS OF WHICH TOXICITIES PROBABLY ARE NOW COMING FORTH AND NEED TO BE DETOXED FROM YOUR BODY.
Great great video!!
At about 2:12 Rich says it could be hard to get top athletes to bet their careers on switching to this diet. He later says it's better for athletes in the twilight of their careers. But I think even for athletes in their primes, the main advantage of recovery needs to be emphasized. That's what James Wilks says got him to try it in the Gamechangers movie. Lots of top athletes get injured and could get intrigued to try this during rehab. Also on training and aging. I am 68. Supposedly I have to train intensely less often because old people don't recover as fast. That's not true for me at all on this diet. I recover from hard workouts just as fast as when I was younger
Excellent episode. I simply say, to the "protein" Q, I get my protein from the same place the animals you eat get theirs, plants. I don't engage in long conversations anymore and always invite friends and neighbors to chat about being a whole food plant eater and swimmer another time. I'm still waiting......
but we can not eat grass or leaves,like some herb species
Italian plnt-based is less compact among people but is more confident and more expert. The need for B12 is worldwide as everybody is low in B12. But are we sure low protein could not be protein free. And does anyone can suggest studies with no refined fat added diet? I guess we will discover new thing in the next future. Your are all of you an inspiration, and your mouvement is great support specially in easter time.
I stated the plant base diet from in ninety but I did it wrong I try the New York City I did not the Marthron race I finish 18.6 it was getting dark and I was getting tired so I decided to quite
I wonder why Patrick Baboumian isn’t in the book? Love all the stories and “day in the life” of all the vegan athletes. Plus, their go to recipes.
Its an unfortunate reality that most people are suffering from a Mumpsimus when it comes to the belief about Plant Protein.
Mumpsimus meaning; - (A traditional custom or notion adhered to although shown to be unreasonable.
A person who obstinately adheres to unreasonable customs or notions. A bigoted adherent to exposed but customary error)
Great guests! Are you going to interview Iron Cowboy after his 100????
Should also interview Ray Zahab - another amazing super long distance athlete.
The protein issue is population observation, those who have eaten more unprocessed beans or meat have much higher micronutrient intake. Refined protein is about as useful as refined oil or sugar or carbohydrates.
Great podcast! Interestingly enough....raising rabbits for food was the primary impetus for shifting my values to plant based eating. A deep dive into my nightmarish reluctance to face harvest day gave me the insight into my true feelings about eating animals. A full day of skinning and gutting beheaded rabbits that were still shivering after death made me seriously rethink my diet choices and personal ethics. One of the things that bothers me about vegan athletes is the reliance on supplemental vegan protein powders. Many vegan influencers give the impression that you can get all the protein you need by eating just plants except most of them actually supplement with plant based protein "products" (which they also promote and/or sell). Which is true? A "whole food" plant diet is adequate in protein? Or not?
Welcome to Foco! Many vegan options out here, and if youre in the mood for donuts, Foco Doco makes vegan donuts!
Should have had Coach Chris Hauth sit in for the podcast, he might have learnt something about plant based nutrition being adequate for athletes and the general population...
Was Vanessa Espinoza in Your Story about how You Got Started, Abby Espinoza The Great Featherweight Boxer's Daughter???
I'm not vegetarian, but recently had a party that had very limited plates with meat or dairy simply because it's hot here now -- many of the folks I invited really appreciated that, but a couple just didn't eat anything because they "don't like vegetables". I didn't see that coming.
Mention the name of the book at the end!
Even meat eaters are often deficient in B12.
Sure... eating the plant based garbage and not eating high quality animals with tons of depletion from denatured plant frankenfood like crappy fake cheeses and coke..the s.a d. diet will get you deficiencies.
The only way 👍
I ordered their book and I am taking Complement. I don't go on cruises -- I wish they would be banned because they pollute the ocean... anyway I lost 40 pounds plant-based oil free and now that I've seem to stabilize I am increasing the fats because I really need them for my brain health my mental health for a healthy diet. Low fat weight loss is for people I think that are having extremely hard time with eight loss and health issues...But it's interesting the point they bring up...I think about that...
I just turn 71 and never had a stroke I was going green juicing
please can someone tell me what mic rich uses??????????
every Sunday morning I would go to Central Park and I meet Gary Null and he teach a lot of how to run
I can't believe peanut butter wasn't mentioned once in the PC. PB is the best, regards
You have to really be careful with who and where you buy your peanuts from. Peanuts are easy to become toxic from fungus. Facts can be supported by reading the book The China Study. There are a few growers here in USA that are careful with growing and storing them, and they only grow certain strains.
im allergic
ALL plants have all the Amino Acids, essential and non essential.
Diversity of plants is the key because rice is low in Lysine and Broccoli is low in Methionine. But no one eats only rice or Broccoli.
my personal rough guide is : L/Lysine = Legumes and M/Methionine = Meal (the original word for grains). But, I avoid grains/meal now and eat seeds instead and seed are very high in methionine. My current challenge is to make nuts and seeds soft enough to grind into a paste to sub for bottled oils. ...and then make them blend the right way with legumes and spices to taste great - kind of like hummus tastes great.
@Jodie Masterson you obviously are ignorant of the plant protein profile.
@Jodie Masterson Go enlighten yourself and become more educated. Watch this lecture ua-cam.com/video/CSRCMpWjkqM/v-deo.html
If you haven't got the patience to watch the whole lecture watch from 59 minutes in, and then come and apologize.
@@lechsiz1642 If you buy a coffee grinder you can grind your nuts and seeds down to a fine powder. I do this with Flax, Sesame and Poppy seeds so as make all the nutrients readily available.
@@mikemasail823 thanks. I'll do that eventually. been meaning to. Am I overly picky or buying old rancid flaxseed or does it really taste a bit like fish oil? I love chia, but flax...no.
not trying to nay say but its not easy to travel and eat vegan. not impossible but not easy. especially if you are not traveling to or through big cities. thanks for the run kit rich.
What about protein suppositories? :)
hi mr.rich i think u should try a podcast with vandana shiva
Three beautiful vegan men right there!!!
Does someone remember the name of a raw food bodybuilder that was quite famous 15-20 years ago ?
Charlie Abel and some guy named Wade come to mind. I looked up Wade and than Wade Lightheart came up. But that doesn't really sound familiar to me.