The Pizzaplex being open for just under 3 years also helps to explain why Bonnie Bowl was never gotten rid of, despite having ample chance if it were to have been open for about 5 yrs. Good video!
As soon as i see the title i'm like "Ya. Honestly, this all started in fnaf 2, when Matpat continued to say 'Fnaf 1 = 1993', even though Fnaf 2 showed a Sun-Thurs Shift, meaning it has to be 1992, based on his original math." (His evidence was that it has to be a Monday-Friday shift (Sun-Thurs Shift in Fnaf 2), it has to take place between 1991-1996 (correct)... and the irl murder he mentioned happened in 1993 (....WHAT??)) Same goes with 2015 for Fnaf 3 (there's more to it than just beimg the release date and 30 years after the MCI. If Fnaf 1 is 1992, then the Logbook's "real value" clue shows mike's entries are from 2015. Personally, all games after SL (which i believe happens in 1995, based on a clue in the SL source code i was made aware of + 10 years after 1985, which is when I believe Elizabeth died, which dittophoebia also backs up with Rory being trapped for 10 years), starting from PS (in 2017), happen in the year they released.
@Toaster003 In Ballora Gallery, you can crash the game. In the files, if you do the same to repeat this it comes up with the screen, and just above that screen it show the date, August 17th 1995. (This same thing is what happened with the Fnaf 4 box appearing in Fnaf World, it appeared above the screen)
The problem with the pozzaplex only being open for about 3 years is Cassie said she used to go to the daycare. Even 3 years ago, she would be a bit old for that. They way she talks about the pizza plex is like she almost grew up there, as her dad works there. Less than 3 years just doesnt seem long enough give what she says
It could be that they were announcing and hyping up the Pizzaplex before it opened. Consider this: when do you see trailers and announcements about the release of a game? Is it the day it releases or months, sometimes even years, before it is released. Just like games, a giant business with as many moving parts as the Pizzaplex needs planning, announcements, and construction, and thus more time between announcement and opening. If it took Nintendo 5 irl years to develop Breath of the Wild, imagine how long the development of everything in the Pizzaplex (from the Glamrocks and their AI, to what attractions would go where, to what is served at the food court). Even with the sci-fi elements, such progression of business and tech has never been shown to contradict their irl counterparts, just being a few decades ahead plus supernatural and sci-fi elements thrown in.
Given how Steve Snodgrass is a parallel to Scott Cawthon, I think Help Wanted (The Story) would take place in 2014 -> 2015 - the years that Scott made FNaF 1 -> 4. Then Help Wanted (The Game) would take place in 2019 in a form of meta-narrative in the perspective of a member of the public and/or tester. Then since you stated in the video that Help Wanted (The Game) takes place 5 years before Security Breach, that would mean that Security Breach would possibly be set in March 10, 2024: Just 5 Months before FNaF’s 10th Anniversary. “But Hey, that’s Just a theory. A Game Theory” - MatPat (2011 -> 2024)
@ true. But it’s 30 years (Give or take a few years) after Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza closes. Which Freddy’s depends on the location (1983-1985 Location, the 1987 Location, and the location from FNaF 1)
To be honest, considering HELP WANTED Takes place in a virtual horror attraction of the original events of FNaF I have many evidence showing security breach is just a video game. ( IN THE LORE )
Did it specify that she was a toddler or was it a nebulous "when I was younger" comment? Either way 12 - 3 = 9 which is probably still young enough to go to the daycare.
@@TiredMoonRabbitjust checked the ingame dialogue and descriptions and it’s just stated that she used to spend time at the daycare without any specifics for age
@@molamola9723 it also could have been that she was there during it's construction, considering that Cassie rode the log ride at some point and that thing was still being put together.
Ok so I did the math and I believe that Edwin is 28 in 1984 so if the StoryTeller takes place in 2033 that would make him 77 years old so that would place his brith in 1956.
As a Mario fan, I find it very ironic that Security Breach takes place on March 10th. Because that means Gregory and Glamrock Freddy the entire Pizzaplex on Mario Day.
there was an itp leak confirming it's in 2020, in that game we also see the aftermath of fnaf 6, which makes me somewhat believe pizzaplex 2019 we only know that the first fredy fazbear's pizza opened in 1983, but we know that fazbear existed since the 70's because of the ruin freddy cutout
I personally agree with Hibiscus good ideal bad ideal That fnaf 3 takes place in 2015 and not 2023 Both the steam page and the survival log book help back that date up He doesn't know when fnaf 6 takes place but he think the "HRY223" is meaning it takes place in 2023 is dubious. Because if this Scott wanted us to know it was 2023 it would make more sense for it to be "HRY2023" or "HRY23" I he didn't know what "HRY223" was trying to mean or when fnaf 6 takes place (he's fine with it taking place in 2023) I personally think fnaf 6 takes place in either 2016 or more likely 2017 and that "HRY223" mean "Henry February 23rd" of which ever year fnaf 6 takes place in
It's not a coincidence that Scott would put 3 numbers that is close to 2023 in a secret tape. If Henry's name was shortent to HRY. Then 2023 is the same
One of the old Scottgames teasers confirms fnaf 3 being set in 2023. It says “five nights at freddy’s, 30 years later, only one”. Five nights at freddy’s is the name of the first game obv’s, and the fact that it says 30 years later afterwards confirms it’s 30 years after fnaf 1. Logbook is most likely meta.
@@CainG2005FNaF 3’s actual game description doesn’t only mention a closure, it mentions tragedies taking place at that location which would only make sense to be referring to the original location’s closure and the MCI in 1985. “Only one” refers to there only being one animatronic in the game. The logbook is definitely meant to be canon (even if it has minor continuity errors) and takes place immediately before FNaF 3. FNaF 3 2015 still holds up and I’m a firm believer in that.
@@CainG2005 I know but it closed after the MCI before reopening a few years later. Still counts as a closure and fits better with the mentions of tragedy.
I’m curious about something. All your calculations are based on the assumption that FNAF 3 and Pizzeria Simulator take place in 2023, but Gibi’s Bad Idea Good Idea proved convincingly that they do not. According to that 8+ hour incredibly thorough video, he provided evidence that FNAF 3 takes place in 2015. If you use 2015 as your constant, how does that change the math for the rest of your calculations, including the ages from the books?
Scottgames “five nights at Freddy’s, 30 years later” teaser, HRY223 (which is defo a shorten 2023 as the context of that tape was follow me, the minigame from fnaf 3) all heavily imply fnaf 3 and pizzeria simulator are in 2023. The logbook is most likely meta so the coupon math can’t work, the fnaf 1 location is the same as the mci freddy’s so the events that are mentioned in the fnaf 3 steam description doesn’t debunk it being 30 years after fnaf 1. Scott also said in 2015 that we solved fnaf 3 with 2023 being agreed apon by the community and also I’m pretty sure the year 1985 was unknown to us until the silver eyes came out, and fnaf 4 was meant to be the last fnaf game.
@@CainG2005 FNAF 3 being set in 2023 has most likely, unintentionally, been retconned, if we take the dates in the AR emails into consideration, which were all sent in 2019. Since the delivery service was created after Fazbear's Fright burnt down (as every animatronic featured in Special Delivery is a recreation), FNAF 3 can't take place after 2019.
Your theory makes sense, but your stance on Vanessa's age is wrong. The emails in Special Delivery all take place in 2019, with Vanessa being addressed as "nessie97." Since Vanessa is 23 with her birthday being in September in the cut emails, the 97 in nessie97 is September 7th. This means her birthday has to be September 7th, 1996. (2019 - 23 = 1996) If Security Breach takes place in 2035, then Vanessa would be about 38, turning 39. (2035 - 2019 = 16) (16 + 23 = 39) It would be impossible for her to be that young and still have so much experience working with the company. She can't be 23 during Security Breach if she was working with Fazbear Entertainment in 2019.
The emails stating Vanessa's age aren't canon, they are unreleased and not in the games anymore. Vanessa was born in 1997 and is likely around 30 in HW1 and in her 30's in SD. Vanessa being 38 in SB makes sense. You're wrong.
Glad to see someone using my Security Breach Panning Background :)
The Pizzaplex being open for just under 3 years also helps to explain why Bonnie Bowl was never gotten rid of, despite having ample chance if it were to have been open for about 5 yrs. Good video!
It's really nice to have a somewhat solid timeline of the pizzaplex, I really haven't seen anything as thorough as this posted before.
I just gotta say that fazbear entertainment is pretty stupid putting their heaviest attraction, a go kart track on top of a sinkhole
As soon as i see the title i'm like "Ya. Honestly, this all started in fnaf 2, when Matpat continued to say 'Fnaf 1 = 1993', even though Fnaf 2 showed a Sun-Thurs Shift, meaning it has to be 1992, based on his original math." (His evidence was that it has to be a Monday-Friday shift (Sun-Thurs Shift in Fnaf 2), it has to take place between 1991-1996 (correct)... and the irl murder he mentioned happened in 1993 (....WHAT??))
Same goes with 2015 for Fnaf 3 (there's more to it than just beimg the release date and 30 years after the MCI. If Fnaf 1 is 1992, then the Logbook's "real value" clue shows mike's entries are from 2015.
Personally, all games after SL (which i believe happens in 1995, based on a clue in the SL source code i was made aware of + 10 years after 1985, which is when I believe Elizabeth died, which dittophoebia also backs up with Rory being trapped for 10 years), starting from PS (in 2017), happen in the year they released.
What’s the clue in SL’s sourcecode that it takes place in 1995?
@Toaster003 In Ballora Gallery, you can crash the game.
In the files, if you do the same to repeat this it comes up with the screen, and just above that screen it show the date, August 17th 1995.
(This same thing is what happened with the Fnaf 4 box appearing in Fnaf World, it appeared above the screen)
7:11 1979 "but we know this can't happen"...
yeah, that didn't age so well...
You could argue that the Faz magazines have been around for several years and that those issues in security breach are talking about the pizza Plex
The problem with the pozzaplex only being open for about 3 years is Cassie said she used to go to the daycare. Even 3 years ago, she would be a bit old for that. They way she talks about the pizza plex is like she almost grew up there, as her dad works there. Less than 3 years just doesnt seem long enough give what she says
Great theory! But, how would you explain the Faz Life magazines then? I mean, why are they inconsistant with the Pizzaplex's opening year?
I don't think steel wool put so much thought into the magazines.
It could be that they were announcing and hyping up the Pizzaplex before it opened.
Consider this: when do you see trailers and announcements about the release of a game? Is it the day it releases or months, sometimes even years, before it is released. Just like games, a giant business with as many moving parts as the Pizzaplex needs planning, announcements, and construction, and thus more time between announcement and opening.
If it took Nintendo 5 irl years to develop Breath of the Wild, imagine how long the development of everything in the Pizzaplex (from the Glamrocks and their AI, to what attractions would go where, to what is served at the food court). Even with the sci-fi elements, such progression of business and tech has never been shown to contradict their irl counterparts, just being a few decades ahead plus supernatural and sci-fi elements thrown in.
Given how Steve Snodgrass is a parallel to Scott Cawthon, I think Help Wanted (The Story) would take place in 2014 -> 2015 - the years that Scott made FNaF 1 -> 4.
Then Help Wanted (The Game) would take place in 2019 in a form of meta-narrative in the perspective of a member of the public and/or tester.
Then since you stated in the video that Help Wanted (The Game) takes place 5 years before Security Breach, that would mean that Security Breach would possibly be set in March 10, 2024: Just 5 Months before FNaF’s 10th Anniversary.
“But Hey, that’s Just a theory. A Game Theory” - MatPat (2011 -> 2024)
FNAF 3 is 30 years after FNAF 1
@ true. But it’s 30 years (Give or take a few years) after Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza closes. Which Freddy’s depends on the location (1983-1985 Location, the 1987 Location, and the location from FNaF 1)
To be honest, considering HELP WANTED Takes place in a virtual horror attraction of the original events of FNaF I have many evidence showing security breach is just a video game.
( IN THE LORE )
There's a problem with that timeframe, Cassie is also 12 by Ruin, and she visited the daycare as a toddler.
Did it specify that she was a toddler or was it a nebulous "when I was younger" comment? Either way 12 - 3 = 9 which is probably still young enough to go to the daycare.
@@TiredMoonRabbitjust checked the ingame dialogue and descriptions and it’s just stated that she used to spend time at the daycare without any specifics for age
@@molamola9723 it also could have been that she was there during it's construction, considering that Cassie rode the log ride at some point and that thing was still being put together.
Ok so I did the math and I believe that Edwin is 28 in 1984 so if the StoryTeller takes place in 2033 that would make him 77 years old so that would place his brith in 1956.
As a Mario fan, I find it very ironic that Security Breach takes place on March 10th. Because that means Gregory and Glamrock Freddy the entire Pizzaplex on Mario Day.
Mamma Mia
there was an itp leak confirming it's in 2020, in that game we also see the aftermath of fnaf 6, which makes me somewhat believe pizzaplex 2019
we only know that the first fredy fazbear's pizza opened in 1983, but we know that fazbear existed since the 70's because of the ruin freddy cutout
Great video! Very thorough
1979 was confirmed
I personally agree with Hibiscus good ideal bad ideal
That fnaf 3 takes place in 2015 and not 2023
Both the steam page and the survival log book help back that date up
He doesn't know when fnaf 6 takes place but he think the "HRY223" is meaning it takes place in 2023 is dubious. Because if this Scott wanted us to know it was 2023 it would make more sense for it to be "HRY2023" or "HRY23"
I he didn't know what "HRY223" was trying to mean or when fnaf 6 takes place (he's fine with it taking place in 2023)
I personally think fnaf 6 takes place in either 2016 or more likely 2017 and that "HRY223" mean "Henry February 23rd" of which ever year fnaf 6 takes place in
It's not a coincidence that Scott would put 3 numbers that is close to 2023 in a secret tape.
If Henry's name was shortent to HRY. Then 2023 is the same
One of the old Scottgames teasers confirms fnaf 3 being set in 2023. It says “five nights at freddy’s, 30 years later, only one”. Five nights at freddy’s is the name of the first game obv’s, and the fact that it says 30 years later afterwards confirms it’s 30 years after fnaf 1. Logbook is most likely meta.
@@CainG2005FNaF 3’s actual game description doesn’t only mention a closure, it mentions tragedies taking place at that location which would only make sense to be referring to the original location’s closure and the MCI in 1985. “Only one” refers to there only being one animatronic in the game. The logbook is definitely meant to be canon (even if it has minor continuity errors) and takes place immediately before FNaF 3. FNaF 3 2015 still holds up and I’m a firm believer in that.
@@Toaster003 the fnaf 1 location is the mci location, bro
@@CainG2005 I know but it closed after the MCI before reopening a few years later. Still counts as a closure and fits better with the mentions of tragedy.
I’m curious about something. All your calculations are based on the assumption that FNAF 3 and Pizzeria Simulator take place in 2023, but Gibi’s Bad Idea Good Idea proved convincingly that they do not. According to that 8+ hour incredibly thorough video, he provided evidence that FNAF 3 takes place in 2015. If you use 2015 as your constant, how does that change the math for the rest of your calculations, including the ages from the books?
Scottgames “five nights at Freddy’s, 30 years later” teaser, HRY223 (which is defo a shorten 2023 as the context of that tape was follow me, the minigame from fnaf 3) all heavily imply fnaf 3 and pizzeria simulator are in 2023. The logbook is most likely meta so the coupon math can’t work, the fnaf 1 location is the same as the mci freddy’s so the events that are mentioned in the fnaf 3 steam description doesn’t debunk it being 30 years after fnaf 1. Scott also said in 2015 that we solved fnaf 3 with 2023 being agreed apon by the community and also I’m pretty sure the year 1985 was unknown to us until the silver eyes came out, and fnaf 4 was meant to be the last fnaf game.
@@CainG2005 FNAF 3 being set in 2023 has most likely, unintentionally, been retconned, if we take the dates in the AR emails into consideration, which were all sent in 2019. Since the delivery service was created after Fazbear's Fright burnt down (as every animatronic featured in Special Delivery is a recreation), FNAF 3 can't take place after 2019.
@ the ar email dates were based off their IRL dates and years, they shouldn’t be used for evidence.
Your theory makes sense, but your stance on Vanessa's age is wrong. The emails in Special Delivery all take place in 2019, with Vanessa being addressed as "nessie97." Since Vanessa is 23 with her birthday being in September in the cut emails, the 97 in nessie97 is September 7th. This means her birthday has to be September 7th, 1996.
(2019 - 23 = 1996)
If Security Breach takes place in 2035, then Vanessa would be about 38, turning 39.
(2035 - 2019 = 16)
(16 + 23 = 39)
It would be impossible for her to be that young and still have so much experience working with the company. She can't be 23 during Security Breach if she was working with Fazbear Entertainment in 2019.
The emails do not take place in 2019. That's the real life date that they released on.
The emails stating Vanessa's age aren't canon, they are unreleased and not in the games anymore. Vanessa was born in 1997 and is likely around 30 in HW1 and in her 30's in SD. Vanessa being 38 in SB makes sense. You're wrong.
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