I wish he would've read the chapter with the Spinner back story. As far as I know they've cut that part off because the MVA arc technically has finished in the anime but they still might revisit this story on later seasons (still hopeful). I hate the way they cutoff parts of the story as well as rearranging the sequence to accommodate the episode dedicated to the movie tie-in.
Honestly not a big fan of him reading the manga, cause he's obviously reading stuff that will be showed in the anime. I think he should have waited till the season was over it read the stuff that was cut out.
@@d0decadice It sucks. And the movie isn't important, right? I wish they would go for actual quality instead of fanservice, etc. Idk how to call it, but it doesn't do justice to the story.
The fact that shigaraki made an exception for his allies dream even if they might clashes with his ideals Show you he cared more about his comrades than his ideals
Yeah, but that "promise" of his sounds pretty weak to me... like, what will happen if Shigaraki really wants to kill someone, and one of the group's like "no bro, don't, I like this one"? Like, is Shigaraki even going to listen?? Because he's not a liar, but he's moody as hell and not exactly a model of self-restraint...
@@idk-ye7ur More mature does not mean that it won't cause problems... It probably won't happen, but what if Toga asked shigaraki to spare Deku because she likes him or something? That's a clear conflict of interests. How would he solve that??
Fun fact: Re-Destro's dub VA was the original voice actor who did the voice for present mic back in s1 and a little bit of s2. And also the same guy that played Maes Hughes in FMAB.
Not exactly tho Eri has been killed several times and reformed by overhauls quirk I feel like her torture is unmatched too this day but I get what you mean
@@leeleelee7878 she was but dam that doesn’t change what I said her torture was the most brutal of all she literally went through a huge cycle of getting killed and respawning rinse and repeat for a really long time I can’t imagine anything more brutal than that at least in this show her stuff was beyond rated R they couldn’t even show it
@@vivaraulito I agree so much. Eri has literally been killed multiple times and revived again, I don't even know how she still has some niceness in her. Shigaraki is a little crybaby bitch.
During Shigaraki's speech about destroying everything, there was a lot more than just that shot of the city in the manga. Referencing how everything that breathes bothers him, there's a massive panel behind Shigaraki (jagged web pattern) of everyday life going on: Midoriya and the others dancing, Bakugo yelling on the drums, Endeavor bringing flowers to Rei, Nine in his tank, Aizawa telling off All Might, Stain in his cell, Kamui Woods and Mt. Lady hanging out, etc.
Because of moments from earlier seasons, when Shigaraki says that his comrades wishes will be respected, I actually believe him. (Also never noticed just how hard hitting and pretty deep Shigaraki's speech here about his feelings was) I saw this comment I found funny about Shigaraki's goals. I can't remember who said it but I have it because it was too good. It went something like this. (Also, asking again to make sure I don't forget to do it. Where is the Q&A form posted when it is?) "Other villains: "So what exactly is your goal?" Shigaraki: "I'm going to destroy what I want. And I want to destroy everything." Other villains: "What about your followers?" Shigaraki: "I won't destroy them." Other villains: "But you're going to destroy everything?" Shigaraki: "Yes." Other villains: "But not your followers?" Shigaraki: "Nope" Other villains: "Isn't that contradictory?" Shigaraki: "I don't care" "
The one thing people wished was changed in the opening was the addition of Shigaraki destroying the MHA logo like he did when MVA started in the manga.
Overall, while the anime is good, Id say it has a big tone problem. The manga keeps on growing darker in tone as it goes, and eventually tackles some really dark stuff, this arc as an example. The anime, however, keeps trying to appeal somewhat more to kids, it's audience majority, which causes some big problems, specially in this season, and even more so in those to come. Not so bad now, but very scared how they're gonna adapt the latest stuff
Im not sure to if it’s to appeal to the audience it has to do more with tv violines. If they follow the same level of gore and violence they would have to change the rating for the anime. For manga it works because it’s black and white. There isn’t any red ink, that would make it more disturbing.
That's not really how the anime works, and it feels like you and a lot of people don't know this. But TV ratings differ from manga by a mile. There are very specific rules around ratings, content, and censorship that have NOTHING to do with "appealing to a wider audience".
@@mrrd4444 Yeah that is the point MHA recieved kid friendly ratings since the beginning and that's the issue. The rating is not changing. It is constant whereas the manga is growing darker and darker. If MHA started dark, like AOT for example, it would have started with a higher rating and would be able to add darker elements even more just like AOT. Censorship in AOT is so minimum because of that reason. But since it started with a lower age rating, hence now they have to stick to it or maybe need to approach whatever organisation that maintains these ratings and ask them to specifically change it. I believe that process must have multiple procedures to follow and hence why the studio management is avoiding it?
Yeah I was going to mention. From the interactions within the League, it seems like Dabi is a second in command of sorts. Shigaraki seems to trust him more, or at least thinks of him as very competent and capable. Dabi got a Nomu all to himself in season 3 during the summer camp, and here he's been shown to have more freedom and authority of sorts than the other members. Dabi probably likes that. And while it does seem like he has some different motives than the rest of the League I never get the feeling that he would betray them. It's been shown that he "isn't good at interacting with people" ( he's been said to have burned so many) but he seems to tolerate the League members which is a huge upgrade. And throughout this arc that's shown more and that he kind of maybe is partial to them in a weird way. He has his own bigger goals but won't hurt them. It's probably a case of "I don't hate them".
@@ajaxaxel7366 Well, I still liked the arc. It could have been better, yes. But I don't think it's as bad as some people say. That's just my opinion tho!
You’re my favorite reactor by far you over analyze and that’s exactly what I love. Most people love the surface level stuff like the fights or emotional moments, but you really understand the small details , like the dynamic between the League and Meta-Liberation Army and why they’re enemies.
I wish he would've read the chapter with the Spinner back story. As far as I know they've cut that part off because the MVA arc technically has finished in the anime but they still might revisit this story on later seasons (still hopeful). I hate the way they cutoff parts of the story as well as rearranging the sequence to accommodate the episode dedicated to the movie tie-in.
@@d0decadice he said he read the first 3 chapters of the arc, which is where we see all the stuff with Spinner and the CRC. From what I can recall, there wasn't that much else that was cut from Spinner's backstory.
When Midoriya was "saved" by All Might, he was showered in the golden light of the sunset. When Shigaraki was "saved" by All For One, he was shadowed by All For One himself.
That scene of experimenting on Shigaraki, I saw a screen capture from the manga and it looked way more disturbing, it looked like the doctor was destroying his body.
That scene should not appear before MVA started. It ruined the surprise like when Bones was stupid putting Shigaraki destroying Deika before starting the arc.
This has to be my third favorite arc of the show right behind the Overhaul arc (with time maybe it could even surpass it). It's amazing. I went back and read the manga since people hated how this arc was so "badly adapted" but they kept almost everything. I think the voice acting, coloring, animation, and music (episode 23's during the "scene" is so good) all make the extra bit being taken out worthwhile to me. And from what I've seen this is one of the only shounen if not the only that has an entire arc without a single mention or showcase of the protagonists. As a writer, I find that so fascinating as to how it doesn't just work, but thrives in its premise. This arc made the season so much better for me, and I was already enjoying it.
I wish he would've read the chapter with the Spinner back story. As far as I know they've cut that part off because the MVA arc technically has finished in the anime but they still might revisit this story on later seasons (still hopeful). I hate the way they cutoff parts of the story as well as rearranging the sequence to accommodate the episode dedicated to the movie tie-in.
@@d0decadice He mentioned reading the beginning chapters before watching it so he kind of has. Also, I read the manga section of this and there wasn't really Spinner backstory, it was more of characterization which was actually quite good so it is unfortunate that it was cut. In an ideal world I would have liked all of it to be adapted which, like you mentioned, it might have been without the filler episode happening (even though I like the focus on Uraraka and Tsu). And I do feel like they have an opportunity to lessen the blow. I thought of an idea where they take the first episode of season 6 and instead of having one of their usual leisure fillers (since it definitely wont fit with the season) they could adapt the stuff from MVA they left out. But that's a hard reach.
I thought so too! In adore the manga but It bugs me how much people complain about the adaptation. Most of the story was there. The scenes were cut down yes. E side the movie but people keep forgetting about quarantine. We are very lucky to get a whole movie and a full season of MHA.
@@kay-jay1581 Yeah, I definitely think its overhated but it is also true that making movies hurts the quality of the season (since I think Studio Bones has the same people working on both for some reason so its very strenuous on them). So I hope they focus solely on Season 6 and have no movie, it could make the season spectacular.
I agree. I think what they did adapt was not only the most essential parts for the story going forward, but I think those parts were done pretty well for the most part. But since he's read/hearing from us what he missed, he'll be alright.
It's weird to me that this arc in reality is so short cuz I feel like so much happens between now and the end. I guess that's probably from how this whole season is apprently super squished... but you're still in for a ride
ooh super glad u read the intro chapters !! it really does provide a ton more context and important info, just wish they didn't have to cut out almost all of spinner n shigaraki's interactions this arc ;; maybe in another universe we could've seen ur reaction to the lov destroying the CRC or destro's joker monologue :'D
It’s ironic how you can say that Shigaraki is a “Hero” for the villains. Whether that be for every day thugs, criminals, murderers, rapists, thieves who wish to live in a world without rules and embrace their primal desires and then of course, people like the LoV, disenfranchised folks who are products of society’s flaws and then discarded for existing. He wants to destroy the entire world, and in it’s wake, thrive in the anarchy and chaos due to the exponential amount of freedom now gifted to him and his comrades, being able to do whatever they want whenever they want to whoever want without any repercussions or backlash. This is all done so that they can reconcile their issues and find some semblance of peace within themselves. Considering that the main theme of this manga/anime is “What defines Heroism, and how far are you willing to achieve that ideal” it makes sense that even the villains think that way as very villain is the hero of their own story.
Shigaraki's speech to the doctor is one of my favorite moments from the manga. Part of it is the awesome page where it shows all the main characters while he's talking about destroying everything. That speech is one of the big reasons why I'll have a hard time accepting any kind of Shigaraki redemption. He straight up says he want to destroy everything and everyone simply because they make him mad. Kind of hard to have a heroic bounce back from that so Deku will have to bust out some serious talk-no-jutsu to pull this off.
What I love about this arc is that it gives villains the chance to step into the spotlight to real. Up until this point, Shigaraki and the league have been kind of side villains that are meant to be the main threat, but haven't impacted the story too much. It's almost like if Team Rocket (Jessie, James, and Meowth) were told that they haven't amounted to much and have to prove themselves that they are the main villains.
This conflict between the League and the MLA reminds me a bit of The Night of the Long Knives. Just like the League & MLA, SA and the Brownshirts both strived for the same goal but since the Brownshirts were considered violent hooligans, SA saw it necessary to purge them as to not soil the Nazi party's brand. Obviously, the situation was more complicated than that but its an interesting little historical-to-fiction correlation.
it’s not that the arc was poorly adapted, but that it wasn’t treated with proper respect. this is a big event in the manga, it’s the volume cover, and it changes everything moving forward. but in the anime it feels very second class, left for the end of the season, after a bunch of episodes of just catching up with the students. and with a filler episode in the middle, no less lol it really feels like they valued promoting the movie and the lighthearted stuff way more than MVA, and that is a detriment to Horikoshi’s larger story
you put it into words.. mva is such a key turning point in the story, shifting the tone of the story moving forward. but with the treatment it got here, it truly just feels like they didn't see the significance it holds.
This arc is great! I wish it had more episodes to flesh itself out as much as it did in the manga, but you're supplementing the manga with the show where appropriate so good stuff! Will be nice to hear your thoughts on how things shake out.
I haven’t commented on one of these videos in a long time, because life got really messy recently. But enough about me, more about the my villain academia arc!!!!!!! This was one of my favorite arcs to read in the manga, and I think they adapted it mostly well.
@@AGoodwinTV OH I FORGOT! Don't read ahead of the 23rd episode in the manga if that what you're doing after each episode. They rearranged a certain moment that would be important for your reaction. After episode 25, you can read the rest if you were planning to.
I cannot wait until the next one your reactions are sooo insightful and you like really break it down and shed light on it for me keep it up man love what you do
We first saw Gigantomachia (radio titan) in the villain montage after Stain fight. Then he was in Kirishima's backstory as the guy that kirishima was too scared to stand up to but mina ran in and sent him too the police. At that time he was looking for the 'Springer Agency' and when AFO fought All Might he had the quirk Spring-Like-Limbs. So some believe Springer had that quirk and Gigantomachia brought him to AFO
Great job reading the early chapters of this arc.. For the later part though, I would suggest watch the entire anime first and then read the remaining MVA chapters of the manga to learn what was cut out and enjoy the incredible artwork.
You'll hear lots of conflicting opinions on this arc in the anime. Some say it's bad, some say it's good. Overall, it IS good, just not as good as it could have been. I honestly think the only real issue is mainly the cut content, but you've already read the chapters that had the most important parts of the arc skipped. They cut some parts in the later episodes, but they arent as essential to the arc as the parts you already read. If you aren't going to read more, here's some other parts they changed/skipped that I can remember (I'll leave more comments like these): They actually showed Giran's fingers, and there was a cool image of them being arranged into the Liberation Army's L hand sign. Aftar Shigaraki came back and declared himself as the future king, Gigantomachia said that a king must be able to inspire fear in others. Not something they cut, but here's a fact: everything you've seen of Shigaraki's decay in the anime has been a form of censorship. They actually break apart into bloody chunks, not "turn to stone" and just crumble to dust, although they do kind of disintegrate as well if the decay spreads to everything.
Gigantomachia is the name of the stories depiction the Olympians’ war against the Giants, children of Gaea spawned to oppose them to avenged the Titans. The one where Heracles and Dionysus, a mortal at the time,were crucial to the war effort. The Gods couldn’t defeat the Giants without their help.
There's a little in-joke that doesn't really work well with the change in the medium that was removed. The manga is published in Weekly Shonen Jump, which is owned by Shueisha Publishing. The blue woman (You get fully introduced to her next episode) is an editor at Shooeisha Publishing. A little biting the hand humor.
just to balance out any hate you might be seeing about how this arc was done in the anime, I actually prefer the way that they ordered it here. I do wish they hadn't completely left out anything from the manga but eh
I would agree cuz ending the season with The MVA arc is great but cutting off parts of the story/arc for the anime just to then add an episode for a movie tie-in is a stupid move for me.
To continue on what else was cut out I’d say there’s a bit left out of Curious’s fight later and some of other small cuts of spinner’s story. Most interesting is exactly who drops off shigaraki in “Tenko Shimura: Origin” manga edition
In my opinion, this episode was the worst of MVA in anime. One for eliminating,censoring and changing scenes. Tomura being electrocuted should not release. And they hurried up the fight no context. P.S: MVA deserve another new version than that one. Complete,with sense.
Gigantomachia is named after the war in Greek mythology between the race of giants (men of great strength and aggression, but not of great size oddly enough) and the Olympian gods.
From this point onward, and I mean even past season 5 into season 6, there are no breathers. Everything is high risk. Christmas and the internships are the last break they're gonna get for a while.
It would be extremely cheesy if afo simply orchestrated every single detail, let it be a natural born unjust destructive quirk that connects to one of the main themes of natural inequality of the entire series like how deku was born to be quirkless
Re-destro has a similar view with zahir, from tlok. Sort of a, be free, be able to free yourself from society, and sells that idea to indiciduals that feel opressed, as the red lothus did
Watching Shigaraki grow over the course of the series has been so refreshing. He's grown a lot as a character and is showing that he's slowly growing into being a capable leader. Shame that some characterization and important content was cut out. Especially considering that the anime had time for two filler episodes, an entire arc being really stretched out, and half an episode being a flashback we'd already seen pretty much. They could've cut any one of those things out and gave the villains an extra episode that covered the cut content but no, instead we get a shaky beginning and cut all of their motivation for this arc. Pretty disappointing start. And all of the Spinner and Redestro fans are rioting.
Yeah there is even though its not too much. It would be complicated to explain but if you want to go read this arc of the manga its chapters 218-240. If you accidentally read past that there won't be spoilers since that's when the Endeavor Agency arc starts.
The Meta Liberation army salute has to be a meta joke making fun of the army…right? I mean its a literal “L” that you hold above your own head LOL its comically bad.
@@Austin.Kilgore the mla feels like a gang of spoiled kids in the anime anime Due to cutting a huge amount of screen time they feel like a shell and cant be relatable The source shows you their more of charactertistic and how they see each other
I'll definitely go back to it but the next 3 shows will be Arcane and 2 shows chosen by Patreon poll. If Jujutsu Kaisen doesn't get chosen this time I would like to watch it right before season 2 starts airing for a smoother transition
I still liked this arc in the anime but every single episode cuts out Manga content and the overall animation quality and textures are lower than usual.
No it wasn't, they skipped that. I wasn't too sure why but I realized that since they switched the arcs and that was mentioned somewhere that would have been in episode 12 if I'm not wrong, they couldn't just introduce Re-Destro and then leave that plotpoint for like 8 episodes (maybe they could have but I guess they thought they shouldn't)
This season really disappointed me, at first they tone downed allot of things but the thing I hated most was how much they cut out content from the manga which includes Spinner's Character development.
Agreed. The worst thing on this season was changing and cutting off a lot of moments of MVA for a fuc....movie. I have read comments about Spinner was a stupid character and I'm upset because it should not happen that.
I mean from a reation's standpoint, there is no fun saying "I know him" when there is no excitement of knowing the payoff or no surprise factor to what the episode is bringing.
@@leeleelee7878 i don't know about the manga, but there are too many inconsistency, mainly how an entire army got taken out by 3/4 people without any plan and how they "power up"
@@TommyFit7 Yes, the anime is far worse compared to the manga by cutting stuff, this is still by far one of the best written arcs in the entire series to this day in terms of thematic, characterization and worldbuilding. Spoiler Entire army is a stretch, there are still 100k people left at the end to join them, twice, shigaraki and gigantomachia took out the most the rest didn't. Except for toga, twice and shigaraki didn't power up at all, they just unleashed their suppressed/repressed maximum potential bound by their very own trauma, they were always able to pull what they did since the very beginning, twice's suppression was explained in his first backstory in s3, while shigaraki's repression was shown in his backstory, even afo and dr explained that he repressed himself
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Huge respect for reading the stuff that was cut out from the anime before watching the arc 👏
Facts honestly! It makes me so happy!
I wish he would've read the chapter with the Spinner back story. As far as I know they've cut that part off because the MVA arc technically has finished in the anime but they still might revisit this story on later seasons (still hopeful).
I hate the way they cutoff parts of the story as well as rearranging the sequence to accommodate the episode dedicated to the movie tie-in.
@@d0decadice I agree, I’d rather they focus on the show rather than their movies.
Honestly not a big fan of him reading the manga, cause he's obviously reading stuff that will be showed in the anime. I think he should have waited till the season was over it read the stuff that was cut out.
@@d0decadice
It sucks. And the movie isn't important, right? I wish they would go for actual quality instead of fanservice, etc. Idk how to call it, but it doesn't do justice to the story.
The fact that shigaraki made an exception for his allies dream even if they might clashes with his ideals
Show you he cared more about his comrades than his ideals
Yeah, but that "promise" of his sounds pretty weak to me... like, what will happen if Shigaraki really wants to kill someone, and one of the group's like "no bro, don't, I like this one"? Like, is Shigaraki even going to listen?? Because he's not a liar, but he's moody as hell and not exactly a model of self-restraint...
@@blueteller
That was before tho, Shigaraki is growing more mature.
@@idk-ye7ur More mature does not mean that it won't cause problems... It probably won't happen, but what if Toga asked shigaraki to spare Deku because she likes him or something? That's a clear conflict of interests. How would he solve that??
Fun fact: Re-Destro's dub VA was the original voice actor who did the voice for present mic back in s1 and a little bit of s2. And also the same guy that played Maes Hughes in FMAB.
I can’t believe that Korrosensei is actually buff Doofenshmirtz
Shigaraki is basically Eri, but with a worse "overhaul" and no deku or mirio.
Not exactly tho Eri has been killed several times and reformed by overhauls quirk I feel like her torture is unmatched too this day but I get what you mean
@@vivaraulito No cuz she was saved unlike tenko
@@leeleelee7878 she was but dam that doesn’t change what I said her torture was the most brutal of all she literally went through a huge cycle of getting killed and respawning rinse and repeat for a really long time I can’t imagine anything more brutal than that at least in this show her stuff was beyond rated R they couldn’t even show it
@@vivaraulito I agree so much. Eri has literally been killed multiple times and revived again, I don't even know how she still has some niceness in her. Shigaraki is a little crybaby bitch.
Now you know where Dabi got the High-End Nomu from, and how he was teleported away when his attack failed.
During Shigaraki's speech about destroying everything, there was a lot more than just that shot of the city in the manga. Referencing how everything that breathes bothers him, there's a massive panel behind Shigaraki (jagged web pattern) of everyday life going on: Midoriya and the others dancing, Bakugo yelling on the drums, Endeavor bringing flowers to Rei, Nine in his tank, Aizawa telling off All Might, Stain in his cell, Kamui Woods and Mt. Lady hanging out, etc.
It would've been amazing seeing that panel of everyvody. But Bones wasted a lot of scenes for doing marketing to a fuc...movie
Even 9 was there
honestly a shame how bones was lazy with this arc
The heroes got their training arc in the beginning of s5, now it's the villains turn.
My Villian Academia was not worthy it.
It was cut off and low-animated for doing a movie. Their real turn is in manga nit this lame anime version.
Because of moments from earlier seasons, when Shigaraki says that his comrades wishes will be respected, I actually believe him. (Also never noticed just how hard hitting and pretty deep Shigaraki's speech here about his feelings was) I saw this comment I found funny about Shigaraki's goals. I can't remember who said it but I have it because it was too good. It went something like this. (Also, asking again to make sure I don't forget to do it. Where is the Q&A form posted when it is?)
"Other villains: "So what exactly is your goal?"
Shigaraki: "I'm going to destroy what I want. And I want to destroy everything."
Other villains: "What about your followers?"
Shigaraki: "I won't destroy them."
Other villains: "But you're going to destroy everything?"
Shigaraki: "Yes."
Other villains: "But not your followers?"
Shigaraki: "Nope"
Other villains: "Isn't that contradictory?"
Shigaraki: "I don't care" "
That hits hard. 😌
The one thing people wished was changed in the opening was the addition of Shigaraki destroying the MHA logo like he did when MVA started in the manga.
That scene in the manga was brief , but... come on... it would've been beautiful seeing it. Studio Bones screwing up MVA.
I like how Spinner was the only one not uncomfortable by Shigaraki's speech and backstory.
Course, he's the least insane in the group.
Redestro is the leader of Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated
Overall, while the anime is good, Id say it has a big tone problem. The manga keeps on growing darker in tone as it goes, and eventually tackles some really dark stuff, this arc as an example. The anime, however, keeps trying to appeal somewhat more to kids, it's audience majority, which causes some big problems, specially in this season, and even more so in those to come. Not so bad now, but very scared how they're gonna adapt the latest stuff
Im not sure to if it’s to appeal to the audience it has to do more with tv violines. If they follow the same level of gore and violence they would have to change the rating for the anime. For manga it works because it’s black and white. There isn’t any red ink, that would make it more disturbing.
That's not really how the anime works, and it feels like you and a lot of people don't know this. But TV ratings differ from manga by a mile. There are very specific rules around ratings, content, and censorship that have NOTHING to do with "appealing to a wider audience".
@@mrrd4444 Yeah that is the point MHA recieved kid friendly ratings since the beginning and that's the issue. The rating is not changing. It is constant whereas the manga is growing darker and darker. If MHA started dark, like AOT for example, it would have started with a higher rating and would be able to add darker elements even more just like AOT. Censorship in AOT is so minimum because of that reason. But since it started with a lower age rating, hence now they have to stick to it or maybe need to approach whatever organisation that maintains these ratings and ask them to specifically change it. I believe that process must have multiple procedures to follow and hence why the studio management is avoiding it?
Yeah I was going to mention. From the interactions within the League, it seems like Dabi is a second in command of sorts. Shigaraki seems to trust him more, or at least thinks of him as very competent and capable. Dabi got a Nomu all to himself in season 3 during the summer camp, and here he's been shown to have more freedom and authority of sorts than the other members. Dabi probably likes that. And while it does seem like he has some different motives than the rest of the League I never get the feeling that he would betray them. It's been shown that he "isn't good at interacting with people" ( he's been said to have burned so many) but he seems to tolerate the League members which is a huge upgrade. And throughout this arc that's shown more and that he kind of maybe is partial to them in a weird way. He has his own bigger goals but won't hurt them. It's probably a case of "I don't hate them".
The music for this arc is amazing, please check the whole songs in your own time after watching these episodes!
The music I agree was too amazing for a lame and hideous anime version of this arc. A waste of music for a crap like that.
@@ajaxaxel7366 Well, I still liked the arc. It could have been better, yes. But I don't think it's as bad as some people say. That's just my opinion tho!
@@aleioyou On this season was the only acceptable. But I wish MVA has another adaptation. It deserve more.
You’re my favorite reactor by far you over analyze and that’s exactly what I love. Most people love the surface level stuff like the fights or emotional moments, but you really understand the small details , like the dynamic between the League and Meta-Liberation Army and why they’re enemies.
This arc was so incredible in the manga the anime was a bit of a letdown but is good too
I wish he would've read the chapter with the Spinner back story. As far as I know they've cut that part off because the MVA arc technically has finished in the anime but they still might revisit this story on later seasons (still hopeful).
I hate the way they cutoff parts of the story as well as rearranging the sequence to accommodate the episode dedicated to the movie tie-in.
@@d0decadice he said he read the first 3 chapters of the arc, which is where we see all the stuff with Spinner and the CRC. From what I can recall, there wasn't that much else that was cut from Spinner's backstory.
This arc was the worst adapted in BNH(I don't like to say that though) but the trama was so lame and bland for so many changes and eliminating scenes.
When Midoriya was "saved" by All Might, he was showered in the golden light of the sunset.
When Shigaraki was "saved" by All For One, he was shadowed by All For One himself.
Note the shack the League was hanging out in in the cut chapters was the same shack the league was hanging out in during Heroes Rising.
That scene of experimenting on Shigaraki, I saw a screen capture from the manga and it looked way more disturbing, it looked like the doctor was destroying his body.
That scene should not appear before MVA started. It ruined the surprise like when Bones was stupid putting Shigaraki destroying Deika before starting the arc.
This has to be my third favorite arc of the show right behind the Overhaul arc (with time maybe it could even surpass it). It's amazing. I went back and read the manga since people hated how this arc was so "badly adapted" but they kept almost everything. I think the voice acting, coloring, animation, and music (episode 23's during the "scene" is so good) all make the extra bit being taken out worthwhile to me. And from what I've seen this is one of the only shounen if not the only that has an entire arc without a single mention or showcase of the protagonists. As a writer, I find that so fascinating as to how it doesn't just work, but thrives in its premise. This arc made the season so much better for me, and I was already enjoying it.
I wish he would've read the chapter with the Spinner back story. As far as I know they've cut that part off because the MVA arc technically has finished in the anime but they still might revisit this story on later seasons (still hopeful).
I hate the way they cutoff parts of the story as well as rearranging the sequence to accommodate the episode dedicated to the movie tie-in.
@@d0decadice He mentioned reading the beginning chapters before watching it so he kind of has. Also, I read the manga section of this and there wasn't really Spinner backstory, it was more of characterization which was actually quite good so it is unfortunate that it was cut. In an ideal world I would have liked all of it to be adapted which, like you mentioned, it might have been without the filler episode happening (even though I like the focus on Uraraka and Tsu). And I do feel like they have an opportunity to lessen the blow. I thought of an idea where they take the first episode of season 6 and instead of having one of their usual leisure fillers (since it definitely wont fit with the season) they could adapt the stuff from MVA they left out. But that's a hard reach.
I thought so too! In adore the manga but It bugs me how much people complain about the adaptation. Most of the story was there. The scenes were cut down yes. E side the movie but people keep forgetting about quarantine. We are very lucky to get a whole movie and a full season of MHA.
@@kay-jay1581 Yeah, I definitely think its overhated but it is also true that making movies hurts the quality of the season (since I think Studio Bones has the same people working on both for some reason so its very strenuous on them). So I hope they focus solely on Season 6 and have no movie, it could make the season spectacular.
I agree. I think what they did adapt was not only the most essential parts for the story going forward, but I think those parts were done pretty well for the most part. But since he's read/hearing from us what he missed, he'll be alright.
It's weird to me that this arc in reality is so short cuz I feel like so much happens between now and the end. I guess that's probably from how this whole season is apprently super squished... but you're still in for a ride
Man this arc is awesome. Honestly wish they put most of the budget here and it was just most of the season. So much potential.
Love how you changed the MHA logo in the thumbnail to the MVA logo 😁
ooh super glad u read the intro chapters !! it really does provide a ton more context and important info, just wish they didn't have to cut out almost all of spinner n shigaraki's interactions this arc ;;
maybe in another universe we could've seen ur reaction to the lov destroying the CRC or destro's joker monologue :'D
It’s ironic how you can say that Shigaraki is a “Hero” for the villains. Whether that be for every day thugs, criminals, murderers, rapists, thieves who wish to live in a world without rules and embrace their primal desires and then of course, people like the LoV, disenfranchised folks who are products of society’s flaws and then discarded for existing. He wants to destroy the entire world, and in it’s wake, thrive in the anarchy and chaos due to the exponential amount of freedom now gifted to him and his comrades, being able to do whatever they want whenever they want to whoever want without any repercussions or backlash. This is all done so that they can reconcile their issues and find some semblance of peace within themselves.
Considering that the main theme of this manga/anime is “What defines Heroism, and how far are you willing to achieve that ideal” it makes sense that even the villains think that way as very villain is the hero of their own story.
...and here begins the villain arc.
VERY excited
The real arc is the manga. This version was so brief and bland for changing and cutting off a lot.
"Not the corgi!"
Shigaraki's speech to the doctor is one of my favorite moments from the manga. Part of it is the awesome page where it shows all the main characters while he's talking about destroying everything.
That speech is one of the big reasons why I'll have a hard time accepting any kind of Shigaraki redemption. He straight up says he want to destroy everything and everyone simply because they make him mad. Kind of hard to have a heroic bounce back from that so Deku will have to bust out some serious talk-no-jutsu to pull this off.
Props to you for actually listening and reading the manga! Good weeb respect
If you notice, the dr is the same one, who diagnosed Midoriya as quirkless.
What I love about this arc is that it gives villains the chance to step into the spotlight to real. Up until this point, Shigaraki and the league have been kind of side villains that are meant to be the main threat, but haven't impacted the story too much. It's almost like if Team Rocket (Jessie, James, and Meowth) were told that they haven't amounted to much and have to prove themselves that they are the main villains.
Its good that you read the chapters they left out
This conflict between the League and the MLA reminds me a bit of The Night of the Long Knives. Just like the League & MLA, SA and the Brownshirts both strived for the same goal but since the Brownshirts were considered violent hooligans, SA saw it necessary to purge them as to not soil the Nazi party's brand. Obviously, the situation was more complicated than that but its an interesting little historical-to-fiction correlation.
Doctor: "Shall we modify him?"
AFO: "No."
Doctor: "Actually-"
My villain academia is awesome as hell!
In manga,yes. In anime, kinda.
On season 5, this arc was the only acceptable.
it’s not that the arc was poorly adapted, but that it wasn’t treated with proper respect. this is a big event in the manga, it’s the volume cover, and it changes everything moving forward. but in the anime it feels very second class, left for the end of the season, after a bunch of episodes of just catching up with the students. and with a filler episode in the middle, no less lol it really feels like they valued promoting the movie and the lighthearted stuff way more than MVA, and that is a detriment to Horikoshi’s larger story
you put it into words.. mva is such a key turning point in the story, shifting the tone of the story moving forward. but with the treatment it got here, it truly just feels like they didn't see the significance it holds.
This arc is great! I wish it had more episodes to flesh itself out as much as it did in the manga, but you're supplementing the manga with the show where appropriate so good stuff! Will be nice to hear your thoughts on how things shake out.
This arc is amazing and dark in manga but his anime version was bland.
So many scenes eliminated for doing marketing to a movie.
I haven’t commented on one of these videos in a long time, because life got really messy recently. But enough about me, more about the my villain academia arc!!!!!!! This was one of my favorite arcs to read in the manga, and I think they adapted it mostly well.
Your avatar and usernamesake is really having a moment haha (I just watched episode 23 😬)
@@AGoodwinTV good god, you’re really trucking through
The man with the hand is back (hope everything is better)
@@AGoodwinTV OH I FORGOT! Don't read ahead of the 23rd episode in the manga if that what you're doing after each episode. They rearranged a certain moment that would be important for your reaction. After episode 25, you can read the rest if you were planning to.
I cannot wait until the next one your reactions are sooo insightful and you like really break it down and shed light on it for me keep it up man love what you do
We first saw Gigantomachia (radio titan) in the villain montage after Stain fight. Then he was in Kirishima's backstory as the guy that kirishima was too scared to stand up to but mina ran in and sent him too the police. At that time he was looking for the 'Springer Agency' and when AFO fought All Might he had the quirk Spring-Like-Limbs. So some believe Springer had that quirk and Gigantomachia brought him to AFO
Great job reading the early chapters of this arc.. For the later part though, I would suggest watch the entire anime first and then read the remaining MVA chapters of the manga to learn what was cut out and enjoy the incredible artwork.
You'll hear lots of conflicting opinions on this arc in the anime. Some say it's bad, some say it's good. Overall, it IS good, just not as good as it could have been. I honestly think the only real issue is mainly the cut content, but you've already read the chapters that had the most important parts of the arc skipped. They cut some parts in the later episodes, but they arent as essential to the arc as the parts you already read. If you aren't going to read more, here's some other parts they changed/skipped that I can remember (I'll leave more comments like these):
They actually showed Giran's fingers, and there was a cool image of them being arranged into the Liberation Army's L hand sign.
Aftar Shigaraki came back and declared himself as the future king, Gigantomachia said that a king must be able to inspire fear in others.
Not something they cut, but here's a fact: everything you've seen of Shigaraki's decay in the anime has been a form of censorship. They actually break apart into bloody chunks, not "turn to stone" and just crumble to dust, although they do kind of disintegrate as well if the decay spreads to everything.
"Not the corgi!"
Hehe sorry man I know future episodes will be traumatic.. Just clench to your seat xD
omg yesss one of the best arcs for sure
Thank you for reading the manga parts for context, your reactions are very informed and nice to watch
YESSIR BEST PARTS OF SEASON 5
Episode 23/24 are the Peak of Season 5
reading the manga while doing a reaction series seems counter productive
Not when the anime cut out a lot of stuff at the beginning of the arc
Amazing video as aways, still wondering if you would consider reacting to Arcane. Its one of the best shows of 2021, if not the best.
Planning on it :D
@@AGoodwinTV Very excited for those.
Gigantomachia is the name of the stories depiction the Olympians’ war against the Giants, children of Gaea spawned to oppose them to avenged the Titans. The one where Heracles and Dionysus, a mortal at the time,were crucial to the war effort. The Gods couldn’t defeat the Giants without their help.
feel good inc is a song by the gorrilaz which that one destro minion looks like he's a member of
There's a little in-joke that doesn't really work well with the change in the medium that was removed.
The manga is published in Weekly Shonen Jump, which is owned by Shueisha Publishing. The blue woman (You get fully introduced to her next episode) is an editor at Shooeisha Publishing.
A little biting the hand humor.
I recommend reading the manga part after finishing this arc
I suggest reading on chapter 217 because Bones was so stupid changing and eliminating scenes and killed surprises and hurried up a lot.
just to balance out any hate you might be seeing about how this arc was done in the anime, I actually prefer the way that they ordered it here. I do wish they hadn't completely left out anything from the manga but eh
I would agree cuz ending the season with The MVA arc is great but cutting off parts of the story/arc for the anime just to then add an episode for a movie tie-in is a stupid move for me.
To continue on what else was cut out I’d say there’s a bit left out of Curious’s fight later and some of other small cuts of spinner’s story. Most interesting is exactly who drops off shigaraki in “Tenko Shimura: Origin” manga edition
In my opinion, this episode was the worst of MVA in anime. One for eliminating,censoring and changing scenes. Tomura being electrocuted should not release. And they hurried up the fight no context.
P.S: MVA deserve another new version than that one. Complete,with sense.
Damn I feel like this arc in particular was unmatched in sub, especially the fight scenes and flashback
Gigantomachia is named after the war in Greek mythology between the race of giants (men of great strength and aggression, but not of great size oddly enough) and the Olympian gods.
Welcome to my villain academia! The last arc of this season and one of the best ones of MHA in my opinion, great reaction as always 👍🔥
The real MVA is the manga. That version was so brief and hurried up that killed the surprises and emotion. All for a movie.
Ah as I was typing about how he looks like a Titan u called him a giant Titan lol
From this point onward, and I mean even past season 5 into season 6, there are no breathers. Everything is high risk. Christmas and the internships are the last break they're gonna get for a while.
0:59 Re-Destro is a descendant of Destro but not his son.
Oop! Edgy Boi arc time!
What if all for one gave shigaraki a destructive quirk when he was a kid, knowing he’d eventually accidentally kill someone or something
It would be extremely cheesy if afo simply orchestrated every single detail, let it be a natural born unjust destructive quirk that connects to one of the main themes of natural inequality of the entire series like how deku was born to be quirkless
Re-destro has a similar view with zahir, from tlok. Sort of a, be free, be able to free yourself from society, and sells that idea to indiciduals that feel opressed, as the red lothus did
Didn't know Doofenshmirtz Evil Inc. changed its name to Feel Good Inc.?
Watching Shigaraki grow over the course of the series has been so refreshing. He's grown a lot as a character and is showing that he's slowly growing into being a capable leader. Shame that some characterization and important content was cut out. Especially considering that the anime had time for two filler episodes, an entire arc being really stretched out, and half an episode being a flashback we'd already seen pretty much. They could've cut any one of those things out and gave the villains an extra episode that covered the cut content but no, instead we get a shaky beginning and cut all of their motivation for this arc. Pretty disappointing start. And all of the Spinner and Redestro fans are rioting.
kinda wondering why Shigaraki doesn't wear a corgi paw on his face
Wait, I'm confused. Why did you read some manga chapters? There's stuff missing from the anime?
It was a recommendation from Patrons to flesh out some of backstory, similar to the previous episode and Vigilantes
Yeah there is even though its not too much. It would be complicated to explain but if you want to go read this arc of the manga its chapters 218-240. If you accidentally read past that there won't be spoilers since that's when the Endeavor Agency arc starts.
"but the corgi though"
The Meta Liberation army salute has to be a meta joke making fun of the army…right? I mean its a literal “L” that you hold above your own head LOL its comically bad.
Yes
Kinda disappointed people suggested you read ahead tbh. Seems you was spoiled on a bit of things
I mean they cut out a MASSIVE portion of the preparation for this arc
@@mika9578 yeah but I haven’t read the manga at all and I didn’t feel like it (the anime) was hard to follow along at all?
Nah i think this is better, the anime cut stuff that shouldn't had been cut
@@Austin.Kilgore It's still a massive lack of content
@@Austin.Kilgore the mla feels like a gang of spoiled kids in the anime anime
Due to cutting a huge amount of screen time they feel like a shell and cant be relatable
The source shows you their more of charactertistic and how they see each other
You've know met my hero academias version of doofenshmirtz
Hey I kinda prefer it when you don't read ahead in the manga and then watch the anime. I like your new reactions more than the comparison
Hey Goodwin, I was wondering when are you going back to watch jujutsu Kaisen? or another time or when this season is over. I'm just wondering btw
I'll definitely go back to it but the next 3 shows will be Arcane and 2 shows chosen by Patreon poll. If Jujutsu Kaisen doesn't get chosen this time I would like to watch it right before season 2 starts airing for a smoother transition
I still liked this arc in the anime but every single episode cuts out Manga content and the overall animation quality and textures are lower than usual.
nice
wait, redestro was the owner of the support company? was this mentioned in the anime?
No it wasn't, they skipped that. I wasn't too sure why but I realized that since they switched the arcs and that was mentioned somewhere that would have been in episode 12 if I'm not wrong, they couldn't just introduce Re-Destro and then leave that plotpoint for like 8 episodes (maybe they could have but I guess they thought they shouldn't)
@@Jesus-gn9fr wait they switched arcs? What arc was supposed to go here?
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A whole 0.00000214 seconds early, what do you do with all that extra time?
(Last time I make this joke I promise)
Gotta prepare for AOT!
This season really disappointed me, at first they tone downed allot of things but the thing I hated most was how much they cut out content from the manga which includes Spinner's Character development.
Agreed. The worst thing on this season was changing and cutting off a lot of moments of MVA for a fuc....movie.
I have read comments about Spinner was a stupid character and I'm upset because it should not happen that.
Ooooooooooo
Why are you reading spoilers from the manga?
I mean from a reation's standpoint, there is no fun saying "I know him" when there is no excitement of knowing the payoff or no surprise factor to what the episode is bringing.
Cuz the anime cut major stuff out of the beginning? Like nearly 2 chapters worth of contents?
@@leeleelee7878 Fair, but apparently there are some overlap.
so you're just spoiling the show for yourself at this point.......so why watch the show?
Really wish you wouldn’t read the manga before reacting to the anime
He did the right thing regardless, the anime cut off major stuff at the beginning of the arc in an atrocious way
Watch the anime then read the manga
I prefer reading the arc than seeing. I wish MVA has another version. It deserve it.
this arc imho is the worse,
In terms of adaptation, yes
@@leeleelee7878 i don't know about the manga, but there are too many inconsistency, mainly how an entire army got taken out by 3/4 people without any plan and how they "power up"
@@TommyFit7 Yes, the anime is far worse compared to the manga by cutting stuff, this is still by far one of the best written arcs in the entire series to this day in terms of thematic, characterization and worldbuilding. Spoiler
Entire army is a stretch, there are still 100k people left at the end to join them, twice, shigaraki and gigantomachia took out the most the rest didn't. Except for toga, twice and shigaraki didn't power up at all, they just unleashed their suppressed/repressed maximum potential bound by their very own trauma, they were always able to pull what they did since the very beginning, twice's suppression was explained in his first backstory in s3, while shigaraki's repression was shown in his backstory, even afo and dr explained that he repressed himself
@@leeleelee7878 twice imho is the only one that makes sense
@@TommyFit7 No cuz his case is the exact same as shigaraki's, they both make equal sense