Yes, the mail (as in letter delivery) should be state run, regardless of whether it is profitable or not. The main point should be it's reliability - as with trains. Sure, parcel delivery can be private, as it would be nice to have competition over quality and prices. But as long as UK does not have universal electronic system for citizen management, and you literally need the paperwork that comes via mail to do ANYTHING in the UK, it should not be on the mercy of the market...
That's the game. Outsource debt collection letters to someone who knows the system, they tell you to go f*ck yourself because you didn't let them know in the contractually agreed warning time, goes to an over-worked court system (80% solved through bullying and threats). It'll take 15 to 24 months to get sorted out
Absolutely!!!! Or at least put under him some tough scrutiny. Who are these Nazi loving, women abusing candidadtes He's letting into the party, what are his actual PLANS for stopping migration,not just his froghorning rhetoric about it, and is he really prepared to sell British soverign democracy to his billionaire 'off shore' mates Musk and Candy? .
Phil from A Different Bias has his take on this, it’s rather more mature than here. Plus there is Farage and his links to Trump, if they do stuff the negativity affects us some lands on him. What he is known for, Brexit, a clear majority see it as a huge mistake and that is why Nigel gets tetchy when reminded of it.
Just to help everyone like me: It's pointless banter until about 12:00, then they get to the post service. Any chance we could just get a time stamp for when the politics talk start in the notes as a standard lol?
Labours doing better than people realise, as you guys said the problem is their comms is bloody useless. Sadly their comms seems to be strategic. They carried the ming vase to the end but never put it down. Rayner is frustratingly restrained. Let her speak freely instead of having her keep her cards held to her chest and she could probably solo the entire media round. Its unbearably frustrating to watch.
If I had to guess why Rayner is reined in, I'd imagine they have a fear that were she to gain too much of a popular profile, she'd stab Starmer in the back due to their ideological differences. It's a silly fear, with echoes of the Blair years in it, but if you assume that your party is filled with people who ideologically differ from you and want to undermine the centrist project, I can understand where the fear comes from.
The Portuguese postal service -- CTT -- was privatized in 2014 as part of the EU's economic restructuring demands (with some shady moves, I should add, but that is another can of worms). Ever since it has held the very top spot for service complaints in Portugal.
What a great example. CTT holds the same status and level of importance as Royal Mail and shows what privatisation does to a key strategic industry...and a natural monopoly. If RM is this dysfunctional as it is, imagine how much worse it would get if you give control over it to a group of greedy shareholders.
@@kumoryuuichi Carlos Moedas, the current Mayor of Lisbon, was at the time adjunct secretary to the Portuguese Prime Minister and one of the people in charge of handling the CTT dossier. Shortly after privatization, two of his former employers, Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank, became the largest shareholders. In 2016 the CTT board nominated Moedas' wife as non-executive administrator. Carlos Moedas comes from big finance banking and real estate. He even had a investment firm which he 'abandoned' to his wife before assuming political office -- he said "I could have kept it but didn't because it's a matter of personal honor". One wonders how he hasn't solved Lisbon's housing disaster.
8:20 My Take on the Joe Cast in Harry Potter: Ava: Ravenclaw: The edgiest member of the house, smokes muggle “Cigs” round the back of the broom sheds, the Sorting Hat is still not sure if he made the right choice and should have put her in to Slytherin Oli: Gryffindor: Most certainly would have bullied the likes of Severus Snape and similar. Should have gone in to Slytherin but the Sorting Hat had hopes he’d change. Ed: Hufflepuff: Likely Hufflepuff’s champion, could be a great and feared wizard but kept in check by his core principles that tally exactly with those of Hufflepuff’s founder. Laura: Ravenclaw: A prefect, without a doubt destined for great things at the Ministry. Hermione’s greatest rival in a friendly way, often pulls strings behind the scenes to keep Ava’s arse from the fire. Shaun: Slytherin; the Hat could have placed him anywhere but felt the cut and thrust of Slytherin would sharpen him in to a keen minded wizard. So far the Hat’s happy with his choice.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's concerned about reform, you mentioned that their policies are hard to define, I believe that's the point. Reform want to sell this vibe of a noble path to glorious nationhood... you know, like the nazis
Guys, this podcast isn't good anymore. I know you're having fun, but, what I come here to get your takes on, is drowned out by banter. I don't think a lot of people have time for this... you need more structure, and to get to the point. PoliticsJOE is one of the better channels on British politics, except for your podcast feeling like you're sitting in a pub opposite some friends sharing in-jokes. You guys have done, and did and do a great service, but it's getting lost in the sauce.
nahhh, Ed and Ava are a great duo but let's not disregard Oli's role. he introduces balance and enthusiasm to the pod, and often plays devil's advocate-which is crucial in developing strong critiques
God that Nick Ferrari clip is so infuriating, the labour minister literally answered the question perfectly and ferrari jumped down his throat about 4 times 34:48
I think one of the biggest problems with both the Labour and Democrat parties is that their leadership is utterly terrified of adopting any populist messaging or forces within their ranks.
Not a flattering comparison, but the Tory [undesirable] for whom Ava was mistaken was probably either Laura Trott or Helen Whately. Make of that what you will.
Could the person who called Ava a Tory have been thinking of 2010 era Louise Mensch? She was god awful and is probably the closest match I can think of looks wise.
Hmmm Eds moved... I guess telling 600,000 subscribers your land lord is a criminal isn't the best thing especially when their criminal behaviour also benefits you.
Starmer and his government should be too busy working to do constant interviews. What Labour needs is support from the British Broadcasting corporation as they should be supporting the British government, rather than constantly allowing people that aren't in government to attack our government!! At least push back on lies from farage and the tories etc..
Ed. You have said that you read every comment so I am speaking directly to you. For a few years, about a dozen years ago, i listened to The Joe Rogan Experience basically every day while cycling to work. I listened to the first approx 600 episodes end-to-end. He is not a right wing nut. He is an empathetic and incisive person with an unfortunately terrible academic education. I really wish Kamala had gone on his show. I honestly believe she would have won him over. I think it was the single biggest mis-step of 2024. I think if you were to pick a small random sample of that first few hundred it is possible you would agree with me.
In the grand scheme of things the majority of US politics is between the right-wing and the far-right wing, rogan has certainly moved further right over the last few years, especially since the spotify deal. He also has a shockingly low media IQ so is duped a lot by right-wing nuts and their lies which he then repeats.
@@MrCallumDennis I broadly agree - bulletproof coffee anyone? I haven't listened to much (if any) of the post-spotify episodes. Maybe I'll catch myself back up a bit. As I saw it at the time, he definitely had interests that have a large right-wing contingent (eg hunting) and was just beginning to complain that people were calling him right wing. I do not understand how he can sit across from Elon Musk and still think he is a smart man. Unfortunately, I personally feel JR is largely responsible for the fame/popularity of Elon Musk. The podcast is certainly where I first heard the name and it was years before I started hearing people around me talking about EM.
@@B4nd1t_0 not at all. He commentates UFC, enjoys hunting/shooting/training. He was already friends with Alex Jones. He talked in early days a lot about conspiracy theories. He is not an intellectual. I would perhaps call most of these factors right-wing adjacent. I would not say that any of them are definitively right-wing.
Stop doing media is *another* cummings policy btw lol - i.e. ministers not allowed on TV, government communications is entirely done by professional comms staff
The phrase "social right" is a nice thing to imagine but is totally divorced from the reality of making these "rights" actually happen. I believe we have a right to efficiently priced food, should the state nationalise all supermarkets?
I hate Reform but I actually dont mind them getting into power as I see it as our only route to PR. It will be awful but so is Starmer and the Tories. Starmer wants us to ‘take our medicine’ to fix the country, well fine, this is the only viable route I see. Its also looney to call them undemocratic when a paltry 20% of the population bothered to turn up and vote for Labour yet they get a landslide victory.
5 years of a shitshow to prove a point… mainstream politics need to abandon bland centrism and reacting to populism and actually stand for something. I dont hate that Reform exist, hopefully their existence lights a fire under the status quo and we’ll actually have a choice next election. Wanting them to get into power in 5 years just so we can get what we actually want in 10 years…. The long game :/
The shorter clips are for viewers who don’t / won’t watch a full podcast, and will probably do better in the algorithm. But they could do with labelling them as such either in the video title, thumbnail, or by using a second channel called Joe Clips or something
Yes, the mail (as in letter delivery) should be state run, regardless of whether it is profitable or not. The main point should be it's reliability - as with trains. Sure, parcel delivery can be private, as it would be nice to have competition over quality and prices. But as long as UK does not have universal electronic system for citizen management, and you literally need the paperwork that comes via mail to do ANYTHING in the UK, it should not be on the mercy of the market...
That's the game. Outsource debt collection letters to someone who knows the system, they tell you to go f*ck yourself because you didn't let them know in the contractually agreed warning time, goes to an over-worked court system (80% solved through bullying and threats). It'll take 15 to 24 months to get sorted out
The media need to stop promoting Farage. You have a responsibility too if he is elected
Absolutely!!!! Or at least put under him some tough scrutiny. Who are these Nazi loving, women abusing candidadtes He's letting into the party, what are his actual PLANS for stopping migration,not just his froghorning rhetoric about it, and is he really prepared to sell British soverign democracy to his billionaire 'off shore' mates Musk and Candy? .
Yep, they're literally obsessed with the bloke.
Hate the bloke but I'll still be voting reform
@@matty506 Why? He doesn't have any answers. The members of
@@matty506 I can't stand either him or Reform but I don't blame you in the slightest given the way things are.
No he will not be the next PM so just stop giving him the satisfaction of thinking he will!!!!!! DO NOT PROMOTE HIM:
Phil from A Different Bias has his take on this, it’s rather more mature than here.
Plus there is Farage and his links to Trump, if they do stuff the negativity affects us some lands on him.
What he is known for, Brexit, a clear majority see it as a huge mistake and that is why Nigel gets tetchy when reminded of it.
Where's Joe?
What's he gonna do...
By Joe do you mean Ollie?
@@dh1380 Nah he means Mr Politics, first name Joe
Just to help everyone like me:
It's pointless banter until about 12:00, then they get to the post service.
Any chance we could just get a time stamp for when the politics talk start in the notes as a standard lol?
Thank you!
Labours doing better than people realise, as you guys said the problem is their comms is bloody useless.
Sadly their comms seems to be strategic. They carried the ming vase to the end but never put it down.
Rayner is frustratingly restrained. Let her speak freely instead of having her keep her cards held to her chest and she could probably solo the entire media round. Its unbearably frustrating to watch.
If I had to guess why Rayner is reined in, I'd imagine they have a fear that were she to gain too much of a popular profile, she'd stab Starmer in the back due to their ideological differences. It's a silly fear, with echoes of the Blair years in it, but if you assume that your party is filled with people who ideologically differ from you and want to undermine the centrist project, I can understand where the fear comes from.
This episode is gold. So many takes that would usually get edited out have been left in :D
The Portuguese postal service -- CTT -- was privatized in 2014 as part of the EU's economic restructuring demands (with some shady moves, I should add, but that is another can of worms). Ever since it has held the very top spot for service complaints in Portugal.
What a great example. CTT holds the same status and level of importance as Royal Mail and shows what privatisation does to a key strategic industry...and a natural monopoly. If RM is this dysfunctional as it is, imagine how much worse it would get if you give control over it to a group of greedy shareholders.
@@kumoryuuichi Carlos Moedas, the current Mayor of Lisbon, was at the time adjunct secretary to the Portuguese Prime Minister and one of the people in charge of handling the CTT dossier. Shortly after privatization, two of his former employers, Goldman Sachs and Deutsche Bank, became the largest shareholders. In 2016 the CTT board nominated Moedas' wife as non-executive administrator. Carlos Moedas comes from big finance banking and real estate. He even had a investment firm which he 'abandoned' to his wife before assuming political office -- he said "I could have kept it but didn't because it's a matter of personal honor". One wonders how he hasn't solved Lisbon's housing disaster.
Has the sound engineer been on a long Christmas lunch? What on earth is going on over there at PolitcsJOE HQ -sort it out please. xx
8:20 My Take on the Joe Cast in Harry Potter:
Ava: Ravenclaw: The edgiest member of the house, smokes muggle “Cigs” round the back of the broom sheds, the Sorting Hat is still not sure if he made the right choice and should have put her in to Slytherin
Oli: Gryffindor: Most certainly would have bullied the likes of Severus Snape and similar. Should have gone in to Slytherin but the Sorting Hat had hopes he’d change.
Ed: Hufflepuff: Likely Hufflepuff’s champion, could be a great and feared wizard but kept in check by his core principles that tally exactly with those of Hufflepuff’s founder.
Laura: Ravenclaw: A prefect, without a doubt destined for great things at the Ministry. Hermione’s greatest rival in a friendly way, often pulls strings behind the scenes to keep Ava’s arse from the fire.
Shaun: Slytherin; the Hat could have placed him anywhere but felt the cut and thrust of Slytherin would sharpen him in to a keen minded wizard. So far the Hat’s happy with his choice.
Incredibly quiet audio. You really need to standardise your audio process
Very focused mics that are static dont like humans moving.
Sounded okay to me. I'm listening through a Bluetooth headset on dead medium volume and it's perfect
@@kumoryuuichithe audio is probably compressed to hell by UA-cam
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's concerned about reform,
you mentioned that their policies are hard to define, I believe that's the point.
Reform want to sell this vibe of a noble path to glorious nationhood... you know, like the nazis
Guys, this podcast isn't good anymore.
I know you're having fun, but, what I come here to get your takes on, is drowned out by banter.
I don't think a lot of people have time for this... you need more structure, and to get to the point. PoliticsJOE is one of the better channels on British politics, except for your podcast feeling like you're sitting in a pub opposite some friends sharing in-jokes.
You guys have done, and did and do a great service, but it's getting lost in the sauce.
Yeah the past couple shows have been just them giggling a lot with out much substance
As someone who has been intimate on the Caledonia Sleeper, I can confirm that it is indeed challenging...
Your right, it's a National Asset. It should go into a Sovereign Wealth Fund. Period.
Best one in ages
ed and ava >>>>>>> ed ava and ollie
nahhh, Ed and Ava are a great duo but let's not disregard Oli's role. he introduces balance and enthusiasm to the pod, and often plays devil's advocate-which is crucial in developing strong critiques
Muffled sound 👎
Totally unwatchable this episode.
God that Nick Ferrari clip is so infuriating, the labour minister literally answered the question perfectly and ferrari jumped down his throat about 4 times 34:48
I think one of the biggest problems with both the Labour and Democrat parties is that their leadership is utterly terrified of adopting any populist messaging or forces within their ranks.
Big wink, big kiss
I worked at Blackpool pleasure beach when father 4 justice scaled the big one and closed it for a few hours. It was a very random day
America just did a protest vote for the guy they protested against in the last election..
Not a flattering comparison, but the Tory [undesirable] for whom Ava was mistaken was probably either Laura Trott or Helen Whately. Make of that what you will.
It was me who asked about Sean! Thank you for clearing up. I still wonder who cannot be named.
Could they try and get the camera closer to Ollie's face next time please?
47.50 FINALLY a reason to like this vid
Just a point on the royal family drinks not everyone attending is royal. Some people have been invited based on public service
Sean’s off to the moon?
Could you do a shorter edited podcast that cut out all the giggling, very annoying.
I love the screen rot. Wink and kiss 😊
Maybe public services shouldn't be ran for profit by private individuals... 🙄🤷♂
Royal mail is profitable, no? a BILLION pounds a year for a revenue of about 5 or 6 would be quite the loss.
Is the one who cannot be named Yang Tengbo
Do these lot realise they actually promote farage by doing this. Stop talking about him all together.
I for one would love to see ed piss his pants
Starmer did The Overlap with Gary Neville before the election. His father was a toolmaker. Not sure alternative media will give him a personality.
You are soo on the money when it comes to Labour media strategy, it is so old fashioned
As beautiful as she is I'm glad I'm not Sydney Sweeney. The internet is just full of misogyny.
Ed wears a hat finally, to stop the hair touching! 🥳
Tell a friend to listen? That's pretty invasive.
Can you put the clips out after the 'premiere'?
good pobcabping.
Could the person who called Ava a Tory have been thinking of 2010 era Louise Mensch? She was god awful and is probably the closest match I can think of looks wise.
Not sure if it's just how close the camera/framing is to the face but the interview with Ollie has some very extreme facial movements
Day 82 of asking for a production team microphone.
Ed is Neville Longbottom sorry
Hmmm Eds moved... I guess telling 600,000 subscribers your land lord is a criminal isn't the best thing especially when their criminal behaviour also benefits you.
Nah Ed is definitely Neville. Bit of a goof, capable of heroics but specifically in an apocalyptic scenario.
And in a few years everyone will be gobsmacked when he suddenly matures into a hot young stud
What are you talking about, Ed is already a hot young stallion of a man.
@@matsui90
This pair are quibbling about the optics of genocide-deniers, what’s going on?
Incredibly childish.
royal mail must own a lot of property....
Your analysis about labour's media strategy is on the nose. Like who tf watches BBC breakfast and is influenced by it?
Olly is Malfoy
I suspect the billionaire's name comes from kret, a mole (as in the molehill animal), but I can't read it otherwise as coming from "cretin" xD
Starmer and his government should be too busy working to do constant interviews. What Labour needs is support from the British Broadcasting corporation as they should be supporting the British government, rather than constantly allowing people that aren't in government to attack our government!! At least push back on lies from farage and the tories etc..
Ed. You have said that you read every comment so I am speaking directly to you. For a few years, about a dozen years ago, i listened to The Joe Rogan Experience basically every day while cycling to work. I listened to the first approx 600 episodes end-to-end. He is not a right wing nut. He is an empathetic and incisive person with an unfortunately terrible academic education.
I really wish Kamala had gone on his show. I honestly believe she would have won him over. I think it was the single biggest mis-step of 2024.
I think if you were to pick a small random sample of that first few hundred it is possible you would agree with me.
In the grand scheme of things the majority of US politics is between the right-wing and the far-right wing, rogan has certainly moved further right over the last few years, especially since the spotify deal. He also has a shockingly low media IQ so is duped a lot by right-wing nuts and their lies which he then repeats.
It must be coincidental he only haves right wing people promoting right wing issues there enit
@@MrCallumDennis I broadly agree - bulletproof coffee anyone?
I haven't listened to much (if any) of the post-spotify episodes. Maybe I'll catch myself back up a bit.
As I saw it at the time, he definitely had interests that have a large right-wing contingent (eg hunting) and was just beginning to complain that people were calling him right wing. I do not understand how he can sit across from Elon Musk and still think he is a smart man.
Unfortunately, I personally feel JR is largely responsible for the fame/popularity of Elon Musk. The podcast is certainly where I first heard the name and it was years before I started hearing people around me talking about EM.
@@B4nd1t_0 not at all. He commentates UFC, enjoys hunting/shooting/training. He was already friends with Alex Jones. He talked in early days a lot about conspiracy theories. He is not an intellectual.
I would perhaps call most of these factors right-wing adjacent.
I would not say that any of them are definitively right-wing.
schvitz ?sp means sweating profusely
Never had there been so much laughter over so little funny.
Stop doing media is *another* cummings policy btw lol - i.e. ministers not allowed on TV, government communications is entirely done by professional comms staff
"Ah ah! Dad's unjustly barred from seeing their kids. What a bunch of losers! Middle class comedy gold right there."
What a load of crap. Complete waste of time
The phrase "social right" is a nice thing to imagine but is totally divorced from the reality of making these "rights" actually happen. I believe we have a right to efficiently priced food, should the state nationalise all supermarkets?
Despise Farage, but if you keep this channel going I can see how he will win. What a load of self-absorbed, over-educated, entitled, bollocks.
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@@richardhands904 LOL. Nah. Sadly. I like Bill, just not on films.
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I hate Reform but I actually dont mind them getting into power as I see it as our only route to PR. It will be awful but so is Starmer and the Tories.
Starmer wants us to ‘take our medicine’ to fix the country, well fine, this is the only viable route I see.
Its also looney to call them undemocratic when a paltry 20% of the population bothered to turn up and vote for Labour yet they get a landslide victory.
5 years of a shitshow to prove a point… mainstream politics need to abandon bland centrism and reacting to populism and actually stand for something. I dont hate that Reform exist, hopefully their existence lights a fire under the status quo and we’ll actually have a choice next election. Wanting them to get into power in 5 years just so we can get what we actually want in 10 years…. The long game :/
“It’s sexy to hit women again” the degree to which feminists contort themselves into victimhood is laughable. This channel is now ridiculous.
having taken a week off alcohol, I've realised how boring this show is
The sections on Royal Mail and Reform have already been posted today - why are you double-posting? It's really annoying
The shorter clips are for viewers who don’t / won’t watch a full podcast, and will probably do better in the algorithm. But they could do with labelling them as such either in the video title, thumbnail, or by using a second channel called Joe Clips or something