Albert Breer: Bears Could Get Three 1st-Rounders in Trade of #1 Overall Pick | The Rich Eisen Show
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It seems like ever couple years there’s a generational QB yet no one said anything like that bout CJ & he actually looks like a generational QB !
The assessment is always based on college tape and physicals but that never shows you the mentals. Burrow and CJ have stone cold mentals.
You can be an all time great without being a great prospect. The last 5 QBs graded as highly as Caleb are Lawrence, Burrow, Luck, Stafford, and Manning. Not always the top guys in their class but guys with this hype just don't ever bust. It's like the NBA with massive prospects like Wemby, Rose, Oden, Durant, LeBron, Webber, Shaq, etc. Some end up better than others but no one ends up anything less than good. It's why you cannot pass on a guy who grades this well if you have the top pick. The ceiling is sky high but more importantly the floor is high as well.
@@calvinware7957 both are and were phenominal passers in college...CJ stroud just wasnt as hyped as young.
Stroud had a very good year playing a last place schedule and the NFC South. Let's see how he does against a 1st place schedule.
@@samismith8752 very well said sir
I love the way Poles is playing everybody. The answer is, it depends on the offers
Yes! I think he could take it over leave it....and lean towards getting this teams to give up picks and a veteran.
I can't believe people don't accept this thought process. I want to know all my options. Then I'll let you know lmao
“He’s a generational talent. A once in every few years QB.”
Those sentences are antithetical to each other. Generation is not a “few years”… this generational bullshit is nauseating.
Wasn't the same said of Trevor Lawrence?
It kind of makes sense tho, if we think of “generations” in terms of NFL careers. The average QB spends what, 4 years in the league?
@@dylankrejci9965 feels like a bit of a reach but if we want to be charitable… sure. It’s still a meaningless and overused word at this point.
@@stevem3308Trevor literally doesn't have crap
😂😂😂I thought the same exact thing when I heard that. A once in every few years QB? Oh, so he's only worth a rookie contract, $10M per year. The second and third contact? We'll see, because veteran franchise QB's will probably cost $70M or $80M per year in a few years.
Imagine Caleb Williams turns into Trey Lance 😂
Think he is just a more durable Kyler Murray
Imagine Caleb turning into Drew Brees with athleticism and arm talent.
Their skill set is completely different. Williams is far superior at everything other than running around. Murray always looks panicky and a bit out of control to me. Plus he's three inches shorter.@@paulthird3942
Trey Lance played like 12 college games. Celeb Williams was the best college QB for two and half years and won a Heisman. Choose a different example to hate on Williams
Had one good receiver in 2 years, a crappy O line and a poor D as well. The hate for CW is hilarious actually ..
@@martinhollins1417
Trevor Lawrence was also a generational prospect with lots of talent. A generational QB can't do anything a generationally bad roster.
right id pick Trevor or Caleb and look at Trevors career not bad but not as good as I thought he'd be from his college tap Caleb isn't close to that
1000%,.Caeb Williams had a better college team than Chicago is an NFL team and didn't win ANYTHING~
Marvin Harrison Jr. Is being underrated. I believe that this dude is going to be phenomenal! The Bears can use him over a new QB right now. Get Fields him and DJ and we have something going!
WR are a dime a dozen. Even good to great ones. Underrated ???? folks are calling him HOF player already lol... dude hasn't even taken a snap.
What the hell do you mean he’s underrated? Fields fans won’t shut up about him
I don't think Nabers and Odunze are that far behind, if at all in the case of Nabers.
Imagine Harrison really turns out to be Roy Williams
The Bears could get TWO of the Top 8 wrs in this draft EASY~
Ad still have two #1's and two #2's in next yrs draft,..
That's some scary shyte~
Soooo, if you have 8 picks in the first 2 rounds between 2024-25(as suggested by Peter King), aren't you avoiding paying FAs to fill the roster? Essentially resetting the clock on multiple positions? For most teams resting the QB clock carries more weight than it does the Bears, due to the fact they have an NFL starting QB already on the roster. One that has tremendous upside, and could still be considered developmental due to the lack of support on the field and sidelines. While I would be foolish to discredit Caleb's athleticism and arm talent, there is no guarantee he even becomes a mid-level starting QB in the NFL, let alone elite. These days the term "generational" is used as frequently as saying "please" and "thank you".
Tremendous upside? You just see the Sportscenter highlights 🙄
There is no guarantee anyone develops. That's why they are called prospects.
Also not all picks are the same. The bullet point "3 first rounders" sounds catchy but like a team say like Was (for arguments sake) won't be picking 2nd overall next year. Especially if they get the QB they want and he more than likely is at least league average in his 1st year in the pros. WAS will be what a 10 win team ? 9 wins ? 2025 draft there 1st round pick would be probably in the 17-22 range. 3 1st rounders is below average haul. Nothing special.
@@Mr.Nick.Kerrrr Ha! I watch every game. I see the floor for JF as well. He's been underdeveloped thanks to Nagy and Getsy, and has lacked support on the field. No guarantee he ever reaches great heights, but he certainly has the physical tools to get there. He needs to put it all together. New offensive staff and talent around him would force the outcome one way or another
Only good thing about Williams his hes bringing #13 back.
But why does that matter... Nagy just won his 2nd or 3rd SB working with the best in the game. Took Mitch Trubisky to the playoffs twice. Blaming the OC is fashionable because fans want to believe their heroes are amazing and super human. So take what one more shot on Fields and say the team misses the playoffs which in the North is a legit possibility next year ... than what ... you've had the 1st over x2 and passed on a QB and for what ... because you elevated JF incorrectly. Good luck staying employed after that cock up ... @@Gray_Bush
SF made a great choice with Lance over Fields 😂
They got Purdy so it worked out OK. Fields would have been better than Lance but would have struggled in that system
You can’t say “he’s a generational talent” (which means one every 18 years) and then in the next sentence say that he’s a “once every couple years Qb talent”. Pick one 🤔
How many generational talents come to the draft every year???
I've heard this too many times!!
Still baffling to me that Raiders hired Bears failed OC...
They don’t think Getsy was the problem. And they might be right
@@richarddavis5289he was pretty bad
@@richarddavis5289 Its the Raiders, they aren't. Damn Bears of the AFC
@@richarddavis5289 3 of the same screen plays in a row but he wasn’t the problem..
ooookkkkkk
Some coordinatorrs aren't meant to be HC's~
All these knuckleheads were saying Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent. How many superbowls has he won? Three years from now they'll be trying to explain why they were wrong about Caleb Williams.
Yep. He's 20-30 as a starter with a QB rating of 85. The hype around prospects is ridiculous
Completely true
They sure did. He’s struggled last year big time. But I do like where can go as far playing ability and most importantly with the luck of good health.
Lawrence was a 5 star player and one of the best high school quarterbacks of all time. He was great in college too. If he was on the Chefs he would be winning Super Bowls.
@@spiritualarchitect4276 Lawrence has been surrounded by talent on the field, and with his coaching staff. Yet, he is a middle level QB in the NFL, who is 20-30 as a starter with a QB rating of 85. More often than not prospects in all sports don't live up to hype and expectations. Making blanket statements like Trevor would win SBs if he were a Chief is counterproductive, and there is no way to prove it
How many NFL teams with franchise QB’s would trade that Franchise QB for 3 picks. I don’t think people understand the value of a franchise QB. Draft Caleb
Jim Harbaugh has praised JJ McCarthy at every turn. The Chargers have the 5th overall pick. The reason nobody is linking the two is that Justin Herbert is a top tier qb. You don't move off someone like that. If you don't move off a bottom third starter like Fields, and pass on CJ Stroud and Caleb Williams in back-to-back years, then the next Bears exec is the one selecting those picks.
@@benoitwaffle5439 great point
So now Caleb is a generational AND a franchise QB? All before even being interviewed at the combine? Haha!
@@Gray_Bush that’s how he’s projected. Obviously not by you but by actual experts
@@richarddavis5289 Even experts are wrong all of the time. Many of them had Mahomes as the 4th best prospect in 2017, including Daniel Jeremiah. Guys like Kizer and Trubisky were supposed to be the best QBs in that class. 🤣
Trade back. Get picks. Draft O-line to protect a QB. It all starts there...
Not if your QB is not good
@@007ndc Here's the thing; You invest in an O-line to give your QB the best shot at success. If he fails, you have a ready made solution to bring in someone new, with excellent protection. You find out real quick if he can't perform, with a good O-line.
@@frankpinmtl "bring in someone new" is much easier said than done. You need a top 10 qb to legitimately compete in the current NFL.
@@TheMattTrakker Or....like in this year's draft for guys like Wash/NE, you've got to hit on your pick. Like Texans and CJ Stroud last year. Carolina? Not so much...
@@007ndc Caleb Williams didn't win games against crappy Pac 12 defenses and a Better college team..
Thinking he is going to be the Saviour of a team bereft of talent is asinine,.No offense~
The word Breer is looking for is "exceptional."
As in: "Caleb Williams is an exceptional talent, the kind that comes around only once every few years."
Theres no way im taking a 3 and 7 for JF. Thats crazy. Hes 24 years old and if he works out a few kinks in his footwork which is horrible and has some weapons around him he could be really good. The deal starts with a 2nd rounder, if not theres nothing to talk about.
I wouldn't even CONSIDER anything less than a 2nd and a 5th ~
There's not a Faster Qb in the league that isn't named Lamar Jackson~
Bears need to put some talent around him,.
Could you imagine Malik Nabers/Powers Johnson and Xavier Worthy (Just ONE example) on his team next yr?
And having 5 picks in the Top 60 in next yrs draft?
I mean,.That's what you call INSURANCE~
Stop talking about rookie contract reset. He’s worth more picks and draft capital they desperately need. 3 1st round picks plus 2 2nd round picks, 3 3rd round picks.
The Bears are not trading Fields (who is owed 6M this year) for a bag of chips. They will pile up draft piicks and have a great draft followed by an all-time great draft.
Got to take multiple guys under the rookie contracts than just taking a qb under a rookie contract
New England needs a lot ? So if the bears can trade the no.1 pick to New England, get Marvin Harrison Jr..the New England future first round picks they get are going to be pretty high picks .
I don't think bears are moving off of that 1st pick
They're not. They desperately need a QB and currently have a mediocre (at best) QB right now with a chance to draft one of the highly graded QB prospects ever. It simply doesn't make sense unless they get a truly stupid offer (3 1sts, 3 2nds, and a player like Daron Payne) which I doubt a team would make. Draft Caleb, trade Fields for a second, and move forward.
It don’t fit bro they’re improving the team with picks n Caleb is non essential he doesn’t blow poles away especially three first rounder I don’t think so kid
@@user-pr7iw1ej1uOne of the highest rated QB prospects ever is non-essential to a team that has a bad QB? Pass the buddah this way, brotha.
@@user-pr7iw1ej1u yeah youre gonna be upset when they trade fields
That would be Stupid,.and that's Da Bears~
As long as the Bears could get a “haul”, keep Justin on a Bears-friendly contract, draft JJ as developmental QB, sit him behind Justin to learn for 1 to 2 years after which, retain a sufficiently developed Justin and deal JJ or retain JJ and deal or release Justin.
Parlay That # 1 pick Chicago. Make it so you have extra 1st round picks down the road. Trading with Washington probably would guarantee the first pick again next year. Think.
I wouldn't be surprised if Washington trade back this year.
@bringit3164 smart idea to help them whip up on those other teams in their division. I won’t mention.
I’d rather have Justin Fields and 3 firsts than Caleb Williams and a day 2 pick. QBs bust all the time. You don’t know if Caleb Williams is going to be a superstar or a scrub. Fields is pretty good and those 3 extra picks will give you the talent you need to build around him.
Except he's not, "pretty good". They need to stop letting 12 year olds on the internet.
@@TheMattTrakker you just love a mystery box don’t you? Caleb Williams could be anything. He could even be the next Justin Fields. If you don’t put more talent on the Bears, it doesn’t matter who is the QB. That’s why all the best QBs in the league right now are the ones who were drafted into good situations.
Dan Snyder has left the building. Nobody giving up all that for this headcase.
I think that Caleb Williams is way OVERHYPED...
No matter what Chicago does, It will be the wrong decision either way...
No wonder Sports Illustrated is about to fold.
If I were the Bears, I would trade Fields AND the #1 pick. Draft your next QB with one of the many picks that would be netted. Bo Nix would be fine for them and they could stuff the roster with bonus prizes.
Gee, I wonder why KC don't reset the QB position for a rookie ?? What a silly comment.
It drives me crazy that every analysts keeps repeating it.
Because they have Patrick mahomes.....
@@think4ward996 no, no gotta reset the clock based on these talking heads who live by getting clicks but have never been in the business.
Making the comment you just did and calling someone else's silly should embarass you.
This Draft reminds me so much of 2021 Draft 3 QB's 1,2,3 Trevor Lawrence Zach Wilson Trey Lance It's like Vegas....WHO Knows??? btw Fields was #11 keep him
Stop with the "He'S a GeNeRaTiOnAl TaLeNt!!11!!!" crap. It is getting old.
Why are they not talking about the off-the-field, high maintenance baggage that comes with Williams?
I predict Williams will be a bust in the NFL. I think Maye will be the best in class . USC system does not translate well to the NFL .
Anyone else getting Todd Marinovich vibes with Williams?
No
Nope. Marinovich had more than an controlling father. He had drug problems starting in college. Now, one can arguably connect the father's plan for him (the 30 for 30 on him was good) and future drug use, but not all football dads end up with drug-addicted sons. Nobody is reporting that there is anything wrong with Caleb as a person.
Yep
More like Ryan Leaf to me. Good talent but not the leader
not at all
How do you say generational talent with 32 fumbles and 83 sacks in 36 game?
To go along with 120 touchdowns...
Against GARBAGE Pac 12 defenses,.
And he didn't win ANY big games,..
How is he going to make a WORSE NFL Team any better is ASININE~
@matthewmatt5285 Washington was in the National Championship. Three teams in the Pac-12 were ranked in the top 19 defenses in the country in ppg, Oregon, UCLA, and Utah. His defense averaged 41.3 ppg. You clearly have an agenda cause his ceiling is sky high.
You don’t, bc he played squat teams. Wait until he gets to nfl to see if he is bust or generational. Bears would turn him into a bust. So let him go to DC.
@@specialist-in-tech I do trust Poles and he are the Bears will not turn him into a bust. They will be good in the next two years either way.... I personally think they will be special next year if Fields is QB1, but even with a Rookie I think they'll compete for the division title. If they keep Fields, trade down and draft Marvin (IMO) I think they'll make noise in the playoffs
His scramble game is impressive against college defenses, and allowed him time to make throws. Will it be effective vs NFL speed and defensive coordinators? I would bet not really. Thus I would not give up two or three first round picks. I would bet he is a Deshaun Watson, except 2" shorter and 10lb lighter, and a little less lateral speed.
The Commanders would be complete morons to trade for Fields when they are sitting there at #2 with Daniels on the board. A kid who is just as athletic as Fields but with a more advanced QB awareness.
After today does anyone really think JF isnt getting traded? Albert doesnt sound too bright. You absolutely do not say the things he said today about trading JF, saying players dont look at the longer term and his comments comparing Caleb to Mahomes.
Trade first move to pick two
Trade 9th pick fields and 2025 second for pick for pick 3 draft Harrison and a QB
At least 24 teams would take Caleb Williams right now over their qb...
A few things i dont agree with. You can’t say “a generational talent” and “a QB that comes around only once in a few years”. That’s not generational….Also, how can you say they “love him and think they can win with him” and say they want to trade him. If they truly “love” him they would declare open season on the first pick for “a generational QB!” And load up players to surround the QB they “Love”
Why does everyone hate on Williams. He can't help if He's a great prospect who has more potential than JF
Williams on a crap roster like the Bears looks like a nightmare,.
If they had more talent it might work. But they DON'T~
Draft picks worth a lot less after that Rams super bowl. Good luck betting the farm on that pick
Like ALL USC QBs not named Carson Palmer, Caleb Williams will be a bust. I doubt that he will match Justin Fields' "accomplishments." If I ran the Bears, I'd turn those picks into 3 OL who can come in and play. This ain't fantasy football. "You draft to WIN THE GAME." - Herm Edwards
If I were an excellent drafting team like the 49ers or KC then yeah I could see taking three first round picks but for the Bears Id probably rather just see them draft one sure thing like Harrison or Nabers if they're keeping Fields.
They could get Nabers and Brian Thomas Jr combo or Odunze/Xavier Worthy or a Adonis Mitchel/ Troy Frankilin combo,.
The Bears have a chance to get so much talent that a Game Manager could get them to the Playoffs,.
No one is going to make that kind of deal. Albert's watched 'Draft Day' one too many times.
I don’t watch college ball. Every year I hear about these generational stud QBs and to a man.. they bust out. Give me the haul and let me build a team, not risk it on a dice roll. This kid is very much a dice roll.
Keep Fields, draft Daniels or Williams, and get some free agents. Stop with all these potential draft picks. Bears need to win now!!!!
THEY aren't GOING TO WIN WITH THAT tALENT,.
They need 5 Blue Chips and a FOUNDATION~
Don't let Fields go to Las Vegas Getsy did enough damage to him. He deserves better.
The rookie contract clock is such lazy sports writer bs talk. The rookie contract doesn’t matter cause if the QB is good the team is going to pay him anyway. They sound so dumb saying that.
mock trade idea - bears trade fields, 9th overall pick, and a future 2nd round pick to the pats in exchange for 3rd overall.
It's going to take more than 2 seconds to move from 9 to 3. Bears trying to move up with that second pick to make sure they get one of the 3 WRs makes sense, but I think it'll cost more than that.
@@TheMattTrakker the points match up, but i think you're right. it would all come down to how do the pats view fields? they get a starting qb and still get to draft a premium piece at 9, only having to slide down 6 spots. and get an extra 2nd on top of it all.
He keeps saying Caleb Is generational talent but how does he know that ,?
Because you can see the talent that he has? Talent =/= nfl player.
Yeah but... college is different from the nfl. We dont know if caleb williams will be "generational talent " in the nfl. @TheMattTrakker
@@TheMattTrakker The Pac 12 had garbage defenses and USC was a better college team than Chicago in a NFL team talent wise,.
Caleb isn't going to do ANYTHING with that crap roster,..
I don;t think Mahomes could win 10 games with that garbage squad~
In the end, it's all a crap shoot. And the team any "generational talent" lands on has a HUGE implication as well.
Have we forgotten about Trevor Lawrence? Who was touted higher than him as the "Next Golden Boy??"
It couldn’t be any more obvious that the Bears are drafting Williams if the interviews go well, coming off that press conference
As a Bears fan....if I'm Washington, I'd rather stick w Sam Howell than Fields lol
Washington is drafting one of 3 different rookie quarterbacks, Justin Fields would not be an option for them.
@@jlv3x I'm just replying to what was said in the video. They entertained if Washington would trade for Fields.
Why is he generational talent? It’s just as easy to say he’s gonna be a bust so lets clam down lol
Doesn't matter if they get 6 if you don't have a franchise quarterback
Didn’t they say Trevor Lawrence was a gen talent the only one was cj and Joey b
Yeah,.I'd take Trevor Lawrence of Caleb Willams any day,.
And I'm not a huge TL fan~
As a Bears fans I don’t want basically 2 first rounders and the 1st round pick swap this year. I want a freaking franchise QB that can pass the ball🙄
I’d like to know what NFL team is paying Breer in an attempt to get the Bears to move off of Williams. Also, this guy never played a down of football in his life unless it was in the peewee flag football league.
This only makes sense if the Bears love Daniels or Maye, and they can stay near the top to draft one them. Otherwise we're still stuck with Fields. And then they have to pay Fields an ungodly amount of money that he's not even close to worth. Stay with Williams and you free up that money to bring in a couple of free agents which really balances out with the picks you get in a trade. Plus the free agents already have a track record in the nfl so you know more of what you're getting.
For goodness sake just take a chance on Williams. Quarterbacks are hit or miss but his talent is undeniable. They'd be idiots to pass on him.
Once every few year QB is not generational!!!
CW is Manziel 2.0
Williams is on a different planet than that kid
Yup
BEARS NOT TAKING #1 PICKS FROM CRAPPY TEAMS would be Stupid~
They could get amazing talent in this yrs draft and control Next Yrs Draft~
Why people believe that Caleb Williams is going to help a crappy NFL team win games is beyond me,.
He didn't help a Good team in College WIN GAMES🤔
Peter king said this first.
From a Commanders fan - no thanks on JFields.
🤔Unless a 1st rounder is offered for JF he won’t be moved until after the 1st round is over because why tf would we put say a team like NE or ATL in position for MHJ or a WR when we clearly need one??? It’s chess not checkers use your brain ppl 🤣🐻⬇️
You have no idea what you’re talking about… free agency coming, cap space etc…
@@patricknovak3408🤔I have no idea yet you’re talking about cap space when JF is only going to make 6m this year 🤫🤐… like I said it makes absolutely no sense to give him to any team in the top 8 for a 2nd rounder and set them up to take a WR you could’ve had…it’s called common sense something you clearly don’t have.
Haha this one was good . Keep fields.
Draft capital is great and all but Williams on a rookie deal allows you to go get a combo of 2-4+ blue chip/pro bowl players that are already proven in the NFL to fill in the gaps. Sure all rookies are a crap shoot but the argument that it's safer to get 3 1sts is mute. It's safer to reset the QB clock with a guy who nearly everyone says is the best prospect to come out in a decade (is as safe as it gets at the QB position) then add in some proven vets with the money you save only adds to that.
The key word is prospect. Hyping him as some franchise savior is setting yourself up for disappointment. He could just as easily poop the bed
@@Gray_BushTrue but also is thinking Fields can be that guy. It's all a crap shoot...
How many people went to Caleb Williams' 21st birthday party, though?
Remember when Trevor Lawrence was "generational". Mmmm Yeah Caleb IS NOT either
You win with a great offensive line. Mediocre qbs and rbs flourish behind a great line.
completly wrong. just go look at every oline for the last 25 years that was in the SB. count how many HOF players they had. also, look at where those players were picked. oline is really overrated by fans.
you win great qbs or defenses.
Nope. You actually don't. Cowboys have had great lines and have consistently flopped. List goes on and on
@@NilsDervinger yaa. i've never understood fans infatuation with "great olines". and usually great olines are not built using high draft picks across the entire line
@@shake6321 it's a good way to excuse the faults of players they like. Just look at the Fields cultists, they blame everyone, but him.
@@TheMattTrakker pretty much. if you are a good QB, you make an oline better.
If Washington really wants Caleb Williams and would trade the 1.02, 2.36, and 2.40 or a 2025 1st round pick, I would absolutely do it and take Drake Maye. Then hopefully trade Fields for a 2nd and 4th round pick. Hopefully be able to select Odunze at 1.09. With 3 high to mid 2nd round picks, get a DE, FS, and OC.
I just hope you apologize to all of us when you’re CW to Bears preiction is wrong.
After watching Mahomes and Stroud go when bears could’ve had them, I think they’re telling themselves even if it’s a bust the CANNOT have that happen again 😂
This time watch it be Jayden Daniels
Ryan polls is going to trade that pic because he reiterated over and over how he's going to build his team through the draft building through the draft with first round and second round picks premium pics will build you a super team most teams are made up of third round through 7th round picks and undrafted free agents you only get one one and one two every year
I often wonder if UA-cam uses AI to juice the comment section ... this could be the proof I was looking for lol...
I was not impressed by todays CW presser
Once generational talent C.Williams' really WR Harrison is a true Generational Talent not Williams.If the Bears move on from Justin I would say the Bears would lean to QB Michael Penix from Washington
If you don’t have a HOF QB, you can pretty much give up on winning a Super Bowl. Ask yourself, “is our QB HOF capable?” If no, draft a new guy. You’re wasting your time building up a team that will never accomplish anything.
That's wrong, Nick foles, Trent Dilfer off the top of my head they're not HOF QB's.
Yep and still have no QB in a league where, until you find one, your rebuild hasn’t even started.
He like EVERYONE ELSE, has No Idea what Poles and the Bears Do.
I would take massive haul in firsts, and pick one of the other top 5 QBs. No guarantee caleb williams will play out. So get more picks
Yepp,. That's why they have Insurance,.
The Bears putting their eggs in one basket is asinine~
Especially when they have a good REALLY FAST QB already~
@matthewmatt5285 I think they don't think fields is their future. Now, that could just be the the Bears bad judgment but it's the only judgment that matters in this case.
But Williams may have the highest ceiling of draft QBs but would anyone be that shocked if one of the other QBs outplayed him in the pros?
@@stillatwork I mean I'm not sure Mahomes could take the Bears to the Playoffs with the woeful talent they have.
Caleb played on a pretty decent USC team in the Pac 12 and couldn't win anything,.
The Bears could be a nightmare for a guy like that,.
See: ---------->>>>> JustinFields~
I'd draft that first pick back to the Moon and have insurance for next yr and a ton of better talent and control of next yrs draft as well~
If do there due diligence properly, they will move off that pick quicker than Usain Bolt used to run the 100!
Bryce young was generational, he was the next Steph curry, not hating on Bryce but these so called generational talents aren’t always a home run and also I think Bryce will be fine but the bears have the chance to fill ever single hole on their team if they trade back… and after next year if JF1 is not the answer then go draft a qb
They're not going to have #1 overall next year and moving up is going to cost the same as wheat they get.
@@TheMattTrakker No,.. because they'll be trading back with crappy teams and they will be high number #1's~
And what if Justin Fields pans out with 4 or 5 more studs around him?
And then you can get him 4 or 5 more studs the next yr?
I'm not all that sure Mahomes could get that crap bears roster in the Playoffs~
Caleb Williams couldn't win anything with a decent USC team in a crap defense Pac 12~
How's he going to make a crap NFL roster any better and then you have NO INSURANCE when it all blows up?
@@TheMattTrakker if they trade back with the right team they can have a top 3 pick… (hopefully lol) poles did it last year with Carolina and it worked out this year.
Fields dark horse team, SEA
I'm already thinking ahead to which solid organization is going to finesse Arch Manning away. He's not going to a terrible team and no current terrible can risk tanking two seasons or more to draft him. The Coach and GM would have been fired in that amount of time. He is going to one of the Blue Bloods of the NFL; Broncos, Giants, Patriots, Steelers. The Saints could sneak in there too and possibly the New York media Jets. Rogers will not be there in two seasons and Saleh would likely get the hook after Rogers leaves if not sooner. However it plays out Arch Manning will not go to a bad organization. He will go to an organization that will groom him in a Patrick Mahomes type situation.
It makes sense for a team to trade assets for Fields, but it doesn't make sense for the Bears to keep him for free? Haha!
I’d argue that it’s not free tho, is it. You are giving up the 2nd (and maybe 4th rounder) you’d fetch by trading Fields away.
There’s also the considerable cost of Williams or Maye reaching high ceiling.
And in the end, even if you get a “haul” for #1 pick, if Fields craters next year you need to pay a haul to replace him in future draft. If he’s so-so and gets a fat extension, then you are Daniel Jonesed for the next 2-3 seasons
@@waxfactory1978 neither of those picks will be your starting quarterback, they may turn into good backup players. In your what ifs you forgot to add what if Justin is traded and becomes a star player for another team while your #1 pick at QB turns into Bryce Young or Zac Wilson? These same analysts made the exact same comparisons between Zac Wilson and Mahomes just three years ago, they also never mention that part.
@@waxfactory1978 Free also includes the Bears getting a haul of picks, if you're going to use the second round pick as opportunity cost for keeping him.
Sure, if Fields poops the bed, then obviously they would need to pivot. But if he takes another step forward with his new experienced offensive staff, and hopefully an improved WR room, then they have their guy. That's the gamble.
Point was, how can it be smart for another team to take on Fields, but not for the Bears to keep him?
@@jlv3x You wouldn’t need either of those picks to be your starting QB if you go QB at #1 (provided he excels obvi).
@@jlv3x As for what ifs…The odds of Fields going elsewhere and being a long term “answer” aren’t good.
Look at every team in the league right now. Most start their own drafted QB. How many start QBs that transferred from other teams?? Russ, Watson, Rodgers, Cousins, Mayfield, Goff, Stafford, Carr, Geno.
Of that group, only Geno left and got better. Maybe Mayfield. The rest were already established. All other transfers become short time starters and then backups.
We are probably keeping the pick. I think teams may be gunshy about giving up massive hauls.
Albert Breer is no Peter King. Not now and undoubtably not ever. He must live in Hawaii because he’s flip-flopping all the time!
He doesn't want to play in Chicago.
If the Bears take Williams, they will lose for another decade.
Three BUSTS 😅
Albert Breer gets it wrong all the time! Expect the opposite of what he says to happen. He was the guy who told everyone in 2021 that the Bears were the front-runner in the Carson Wentz sweepstake. Made headlines for 2 weeks and turned out to be a nothing-burger. Very untrustworthy dude. I'm surprised he's still getting airtime.
If Williams is worth three first rounders, more the reason the Bears should draft him.
And if he sucks they have NO INSURANCE POLICY,.
Never put your eggs in One Basket,.
Especially a guy that didn't win ANY big games with a good college team.,.
That Bears pro Team is MUCH WORSE~
Breer needs to never use the words "generational talent" again. He clearly doesn't have a clue what that means in the English language.
Breer makes me so angry. He is wrong about everything but thinks he is knowledgable.
This generational talent bullshit is just ridiculous. So when they saw Tom Brady did they say generational talent? What about all the other quarterbacks in the NFL who are doing well? None of them are considered generational talents? Patch Mahomes? I mean it’s really easy to say those words but it’s hard to back it up and you’re going on only college videos, that’s it, you’re showing his best work in college not the NFL so this generational bullshit …get over it
AB … stop with the generational talk…. We have NO idea how he is going to be in the NFL
I think the word generational is over used...that said, saying someone is a generational talent isn't the same as saying they'll be a generational NFL player. There is more that goes into being a good NFL player than just talent.
This guy doesn't know jack. Poles is playing everyone, POLES LOVES PICKS!
Fields is gone 😂😂😂
Better PRAY you are right,.
Mahomes couldn't get that crap Bears roster to the Playoffs~
Keep Fields, build a dynasty with a pick haul. Pick Williams and start over again. ugh. Williams is most likely the better quarterback but how many times has Rogers won the super bowl? It takes the entire team to win, not just the quarterback.
Which NFL dynasty ha been built with a bottom third starting QB? All that is contingent on your belief that Justin Fields is better than he has revealed himself to be over three years. If he is just another bottom third starting qb, which is what he has been, then all those future picks will be made by the next Bears exec and Ryan Poles goes down as Chicago's Sashi Brown. One of the first things that exec will do is get a QB, and probably not one as highly regarded as Williams or Maye. After all, the Bears had to give up two firsts, a 4th, and a 5th for Fields and his bottom third starter self.
@@benoitwaffle5439He was bottom 3rd with a bottom 3rd team as well. Bears were in rebuilding years and they’re on the verge on finally completing that build if they trade the pick.
@@DondreDashard That's not going to fix the very real flaws he has.
@@TheMattTrakker So he’s just gonna be trash on a great team got it