Camry have 8 speed auto, except hybrid has ecvt. No cvt in regular Camry. I agree with all of the comments, just bought 2024 Camry XLE, 4 cylinder, did break in oil change at 1,000 miles and will do 5,000 miles oil changes after that.
You're throwing money away by changing oil so frequently. That made sense 20 plus years ago. With the close tolerances of today's modern engines and synthetic oils your logic makes no sense.
This. That this mechanic doesn’t know/understand the differences between a conventional CVT transmission, and Toyota’s eCVT in the Camry Hybrid, will only breed further confusion/misinformation. To be sure, WS fluid specified for a Camry’s eCVT shouldn’t be treated as a “lifetime fluid”, but 30K mile replacement intervals are excessive. 50K miles is more than adequate for a Toyota eCVT fluid change interval.
Years ago, my air conditioner on my Jeep quit working. They wanted to replace the evaporator compressor and condenser. But they didn’t know it already had the evaporator replaced. It was brand new and the only reason I replaced was because I had to fix the heater core. When I told them it had already been replaced, they got angry with me and said they’re not in the business of fixing other peoples problems. Taking it to a mechanic who did a test and found out it was the condenser in front of the radiator we replaced that and it had no issues so fixed my problems and they wanted to charge over 1000 to replace the whole system and it did not need to be replaced
That is a great example of the first shop breaking trust. Sorry to hear you had that experience and good on ya for finding a place that deserved your business.
This video is spot on! I love your channel 💯🙌 im from Florida I saw the maintenance schedule for Honda’s and your website and it’s exactly what I do for my Civic 2015. My car has 125k miles 🎉
@@user-tb7rn1il3q - Check out the Car Care Nut channel if you want some real examples of what 10k oil changes do to a Toyota engine. It will last through the warranty period, but most likely would never make it to 200k. The money you saved on doing half the oil changes will just be a down payment on the engine replacement cost.
Stumbled on your channel and it came at the right time as I am looking at the Honda Civ and Toyota Camry both of which you have mentioned and use which is a great sign for me. I did take a look at your Honda & Toyota schedule but Toyota seems to be missing. Just for your own information. Keep up the channel and I will continue to learn more about ...well cars!
I don't trust mechanics because I've been burned (or lied to) a few times by them. So now I don't know whether a problem really exist in my car when a mechanic says one exists, or if they really changed my oil when they said they did. For instance, for my old car, I was told that my cam carrier was leaking; and then a second opinion said it wasn't. For my new car, I was told my oil was changed; then six months later for my next oil change, I was told that the drain plug is still factory new . . . I wish I could just find an honest mechanic.
thanks for the great advice, exactly what my boss told me, the best education on customers is when they come back and have no questions, you as a dealer have to know more then the people's who buy your product, I've been living over 30 years in Germany and even th Germany are not satisfied with ther European cars, with their life long intervals, like they say, once you payed the product it's not their problem, product anymore, regardless what people say because you broke your product and they didn't,, and parts made from plastics and then say it's cheaper to buy but not to maintain in a long term base. thanks for the video Sir and great advice.
Totally agree with you. I've been driving for 65 years, I believe in the old way to change oil. I run my vehicles in for the first 1,000 miles. I have an oil change, in the past, I've had to argue with Toyota service MANAGERS, telling me, no need to change it until 10,000 miles. The same dealership wanted to do a A/C system flush after the first 1,000 miles, ($90). I asked a different dealer, who said they'd never heard of that at 1,000 miles.
Sir, you my friend are honest, sincere plus have integrity! A lot of qualities a lot of people lack. Keep up the good work and thank you for taking the time in educating us.
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton My friend, I know time is money for you! May I ask you a question about my 2019 Toyota Camry with a trouble code? If so, it has a P02f0 code. Car has 126,000 miles on it. Just to get an idea of what it is. I hope you don't mind me asking.
Another story. I had a 94 forerunner that had a recall due to head gaskets. It was deemed that it needed a short block covered by warranty. While they had had the engine apart, I asked them to put some new parts on. The dealership try to charge labor as if the parts were still on the vehicle They had to remove the water pump spark plugs timing belt to put them on on the new block. After a call to Toyota they did like I asked.
Yep I used to work for Toyota at the service center and I use to get that question all the time about 10k mileage oil change intervals on the phone and I always told them don’t do that! I never heard anything about not servicing the transmission fluid but if I got that question I would tell them the same thing you mentioned as well. Same as true for Hondas and I do that on all of my Hondas as well.
In 2004 I purchased a new Scion XB car from Toyota my very first oil change was complimentary service at the dealership. The service writer seemed very genuine until he said that my timing belt was cracked and should be replaced this was less than three months after rolling the car off the lot. I may have been born at night but it wasn’t last night! I wanted to jump over the counter and hit the service writer not to kill him just maybe knock some sense into the person who until a second ago sounded like he had some understanding about Toyota cars. I asked the dealership at around 60,000 miles about changing the transmission fluid but they didn’t think it was necessary, I should have done more research I could have still been driving that car today 20 years later. You are correct in your assessment of dealership maintenance they only have two motivation’s get you to buy a new car, wash rinse and repeat. Spend your hard earned money on what the service writer suggested. By the way the Scion comes with a chain drive timing for cam shafts. That is why I was so angry.
Makes me nervous to ever purchase a used vehicle without complete service records. I agree with you on oil change intervals and transmission fluid changes.
Yeah oil changes need regularity but from my experience as long as you buy the car 85-90k mile range you can generally do a drain and fill and the transmission will still live a long life.
@@slscamgthere can be a possibility the person who had the car before skipped the second transmission fluid drain at 60k miles. I heard if you skip a CVT transmission drain/ exchange the transmission will fail when you do it way over the mileage interval.
I can add also customers have become more disconnected to the car they drive. 26 years ago I got into the auto repair industry and most my customers knew something about what’s under the hood. Now a days not so much. Add to the facts info on car care is all over map it’s like who is right. I will say it’s best to do 30,60,90 maintenance! It really is the best way to keep a car running good and keeping major repairs away.
Thank you! My fluid change intervals are fairly simple. Any fluid I can test (brake fluid and coolant), I change anytime it is anywhere close to failing the test. Any fluid I can inspect (transmissions with dipstick, power steering fluid), I change anytime they show signs of darkening which is typically every 30k miles. Any fluid that I can not check or is a little more time consuming to check during a quick inspection (transmission w/o dipstick, differentials and transfer case) I service every 30k miles.
This is a great honest video. I know Hyundai has gotten away from the 7 and 10 K oil changes. 95%of people are under the severe duty and there oil change interval now is 3.750 mile recommend for severe duty.
Obviously some people in the comments didn't understand that you were only stating what you do with your cars. I agree with you on oil changes. I have a 2019 Ranger I have the oil changed at the dealership when my truck states I have 50% oil life! Modern cars use an algorithm based on how you drive, instead of specific miles driven. At 50% oil life that usually equates to around 5 to 6 thousand miles driven, that is when I change my oil. I use Mobil 1, have been using that since the 80's, have never had an oil related failure. Also tranny fluid, my Ranger is sealed, no dipstick. The recommended oil change is over 100K! That is insane. I was starting to have shifting issues and some erratic behavior. No codes were ever displayed, Ford dealership I use and trust couldn't find any issues. This was around the 50K mark, I should have changed oil at 30K, I let it slip. The dealership did a fluid flush, which was recommended. All issues I was having were gone. I have an extended warranty, so the tranny service I had done is on record with Ford. I normally don't agree with flushing a tranny, in my case it did no harm. Change that tranny oil every 30K miles, your wallet will thank you.
Idea for next video- behind Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura, who is #3 on reliability? Who is #4 or 5? What is the gap between Toyota and Honda and everyone else?
Agree that the manufactuer's service interval recommendations are too long in most cases. I use full synthetic but change the oil in my truck every 5-6k. Same with the wife's Honda CRV. Lucky here in Vancouver, WA that we have a good independent shop close by. They do excellent work and charge fair prices.
Please, make more videos on your channel. I find your content great. The topics you discuss are very essential and useful. The way you discuss is also appealing to me. Carry on please!
At 5:51 on your video, you mentioned a downloadable guide to Toyota maintenance. I have a Toyota Highlander (2018Limited ice) and a Honda. 1. I couldn’t locate the guide on your website. 2. Would the guide be applicable to my CRV (2024 EX-L) also? GREAT job!
We have made some major changes to the site over the past 30 days. I will see why it’s not displaying and leave you a comment here when i get it fixed. Thanks for letting me know.
I own a 2016 tundra and as you’re explaining I’m getting differing advice on transmission fluid change duration. My shop, a local independent-highly recommended and specialized in Toyota, is recommending waiting for Toyotas mileage recommended mileage. Another UA-cam channel, the car care nut, recommends 60k. I rarely trailer and my trailer is a single axle. What are your thoughts.
If it was my truck, I would do it every 30k miles. If it was my customers vehicle, I would still recommend it every 30k miles but would be ok stretching it to 60k if the customer insisted. The thing to keep in mind is it is Preventative maintenance not necessarily required maintenance. I want my truck to last as long as possible and drive the way it does as long as possible. I am servicing mine every 30k miles to better my odds...not to guarantee my odds. That make sense?
This is why I buy new cars only, service them myself and drive them until they fail. Buying a used car, you never know how the previous owner maintained the vehicle until it's too late. The downside is, I'm still driving old cars because they tend to last 15+ years, well over 200K miles. I'm still driving the 2003 Camry (2.4) and 2008 Corolla. Both run perfectly, neither burns or leaks a drop of oil. 5k full synthetic, 30k trans fluid change. No major repairs so far.
I have 2007 Camry six with 71k, but it sits in garage in Texas most of the time. Maybe put 1500 miles a year on it now. Oil change every 1 or 2 years. I know 2 years is too long. How should I be maintaining a car I don't drive much?
For ecvt hybrid, every 60-90k miles 6-9 years, for 8 speed automatic, every 40-60k miles 4-6 years, drain and fill I think is good. Just have to do it correctly with fluid level with scan tool.
It depends on the vehicle. If I have access to transmission cooler hoses/lines, I use my fluid exchange machine. If I don't have access to transmission cooler hoses, I do a drain and fill.
I agree to change your transmission fluid regularly when the time is due but we got a 2005 4runner at home that we purchased brand new at the dealer and had it serviced at the dealer the first few years and they always recommend not to replace the transmission fluid because they said it was lifetime. We listen to them because we figured they knew more than we did but the first transmission fluid change should of been at 60k miles. To be honest with you the truck is 19 years old and has 240k miles & the transmission is just fine. That goes to show you how reliable Toyota is.
Yes, it is hard to find anything more reliable than an 05 Runner. And yes, I have had customers that ignore my service recommendations and still make it past 200k miles without major failures. I can promise you this though, servicing your vehicle regularly greatly increases your odds.
My friend bought a used GM product. He asked me what he should do as a "tune up" I mentioned break fluid when I said change all your fluids. He said, no GM doesn't recommend changing break fluid. I know longer give him car advice .
It's interesting that, while Toyota touts a 10k mile oil change interval (normal service), the Maintenance Required light on the instrument panel of my 2015 Highlander lights up at the 5k mile mark.
Great video. Recently found your channel and I greatly enjoy it. Question for you. I'm having trouble finding your downloadable service schedule you mentioned on the website. Can you help narrow down the location?
Thank you! I think my man Braiden jumped the gun a little bit. We got the video edit out before we updated our Toyota page. Give us a couple weeks as we just switched companies with who is hosting and updating our website.
I used to like that idea also. But then consider, adding it in affects the volume and pressure, esp. as the filter fills its media. Lower volume and pressure will kill the component much quicker - and God forbid, you sell the car and don't tell them to replace that unexpected filter regularly!
The #1 reason for distrust is incompetence and dishonesty. Dealt with 3 shops in 4 years in Florida - one was a Lexus dealer - all were dishonest and incompetent: the Lexus dealer claimed they cleaned the throttle body and that it had to be replaced at $2200 (and tons of other issues that I had to fix: wrong wiper size, belt tension not set correctly, all fluids low, etc. ) . Cleaned it myself and had no problem since. Another shop was a total nightmare - they discarded a lot of support brackets and did not install a mount stabilizer on the active engine support so the car vibrated. The installed heat exchanger leaked on the SRS module and killed it. The third one left the gear shifter mounting nuts loose - I had to disassemble all lower dash to fix that. Then claimed that I need another $3500 in repairs - which was BS. The 4th shop was honest. And I do understand that mechanics are underpaid - so here's the result.
We test brake fluid and coolant with a dip strip ever visit. Brake fluid test strip is checking for moisture and copper content. Coolant test strip tests for PH and freeze/boil levels. If they ever fail or are close to fail, we recommend a flush. It is typically every 3 to 5 years.
I own 2016 Chrysler 200C AWD and I have changed my Oil with Synthetic since day one, I do not get close to 5,000 miles on oil change, rule of thumb I use is change oil every 6 months. I let Chrysler dealership change oil, been doing car maintenance for 40 year just tired of doing it.
You bet. Full disclosure, I am not a huge Mazda fan. My daughter and soon to be son in law both work for Mazda dealers though so it will be a fun topic to give them a few fatherly jabs..haha
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton I think it would be fair to give them a chance after they split up with Ford! Also, would be very interested in knowing the regular 2.5L I4, as almost all reviewers are doing the 2.5L Turbo!
Yes I would service it. It has been many years since the old transmissions with thick clutches would display an issue after replacing the old fluid. If fluid is nasty, I would service it and then keep a close eye on it on the next couple oil services. If it stays fairly dirty or gets dirty again before the next 30k mile mark, I would likely service it an extra time.
It's Toyota pushing the stupid idea of "low cost of ownership" . That's what has led to all these increased fluid change intervals... My rule of thumb is to cut all OEM intervals In half if you want your vehicle to last
I change my hybrids at 5k! Smells gassy. I'm in the upper Midwest. I warm up slowly in the winter. I do severe service intervals on everything I am in Minnesota.
Took my wife's car to the local Toyota dealer and they over filled it by 3 and a half qrts of oil you cannot trust anyone with oil changes anymore. I told my wife from now on they show her the oil level before she leaves. I have my own guidelines I always change oil every 5k synthetic, every 3k conventional oil, and every 45k on automatic transmission service. I do not buy CVT, but if I did I would service it every 25k miles because I have see CVT fluid after 20k miles its bad. If I had a turbo engine I would change oil every 3500 miles with synthetic turbos get too hot and oil breaks down sooner. Just how I service my own vehicles and I have not lost a transmission or engine.
I’m a retired clinical psychologist: Technicians in all industries probably have a higher prevalence of autism spectrum disorder. This may explain their lower communication ability but they have excellent technical skills.
I have a small home based shop. I am not interested in client's that dont want to service or maintain their vehicles. They can take it elsewhere. Unmatsined vehicles are much harder to diagnose and repair.
The dealership doesn't want your car to last 200k miles or more. They want to sell you repairs and a new car every 100k miles or so. Dealerships are independently owned, not by Toyota.
Not true at all I’m a Toyota dealership technician and we love to see cars go way about 200k. They don’t push us either to get customers to trade there cars in. We actually prefer customers to keep there cars as long as it’s worth it.
Looking for a used rav 4 or a before cvt CRV. If they have never had transmission fluid changed and say are at 80,000-100,000, is it still a good idea to change the fluid.
The rattling noise I have in my 2012 Camry driver side dashboard is impossible to detect. Most say it is damper inside the electric power steering unit. Unreal that a piece that cost $6 bucks can take $ 500 dollars in labor.
Please tell me I just bought 2024 toyota rav xle awd on how many miles I need to change transmission oil . Rear diferental oil ...and coolant I do every day 150 - 200 miles mostly city drive stop and go. Please let me know. Thank you
That 10k service is a consequence of "Toyota Care" with its two free oil changes in the first 2 years. The true service interval, under the Severe Driving category, is that 5k OCI, the 30k transfer case / tranny fluid. Its a bit disingenuous for Toyota to claim you only need a 10k OCI when most of its customers are short tripping, stop and go, city type driving. Yes that's listed in the maintenance, but calling it "severe" makes it sound like an edge case. It really should be be a Standard schedule with a 5k OCI and a "almost nobody gentle driver" schedule of 10k If Toyota Care was truly about longevity, it would be a 5k OCI over 2 years.
I always bought used vehicles, but this time I bought a corolla was only 3000 miles from the dealer because I’m not buying a car that the oil has been changed every 10,000 miles that’s crazy so I guess I can never buy used car again
QUESTION!!!! Is it even worth buying a maintenance package? The dealership wants the money up front and then decreases the number of visits for actual service.
They are typically a good deal. The problem is that in our area, the local dealers have their least experienced "technicians" doing their oil services. Not the tech I would want touching my vehicle before headed down the road.
My opinion is Toyota is claiming long engine oil intervals and lifetime intervals on their transmissions...only to appeal to people for SALES...SALES...and MORE SALES. I've owned two Camrys (2005 & 2020) and I'm disappointed that Toyota is deceiving their customers like they are. That's just plain wrong. I understand other car makes are doing the same thing. They are preying on people who "don't know any better!" Shame on them!
I've always said, fluid are cheap compared to they price of a transmission, engine or radiator. I change much earlier than manufacturer states. Still running like new a 2004 Solara with 291,500 miles. No new cars for me. No payment, few if any repairs and low cost to insure ( no need for collision, it's basically worthless).
I get my 2023 Toyota RAV4 oil change done every 6 months or 8000 km (~5000 miles) which ever comes first. If the Toyota dealer won't do it, I go somewhere else.
Read lots of good and bad reviews. Then most importantly, see how the owner/manager responds to feedback. Then call and have conversations with shops to see if what they market lines up with what they actually do.
We used to recommend fluids quite often 3 years or 30k miles but we have found that the more simple we can make it, the better our clients understand. It is rare that we change fluid based on age unless a vehicle sits for a crazy long time.
They are following BMW, and formerly Mercedes. The cars would either burn out the engine at 100K miles or trans at 120k miles. And after their customers had a class action lawsuit, they backed off from the 'lifetime fluid' BS. There is no such thing in the Universe. For those cars, 5-7k miles on the oil, 60-80k on the trans/diff. 30k on the trans is excessive, but I don't know how crappy toyotas transmissions are IRT heat. Once the fluid starts cooking, acid and sludge comes next. And as far as cars go, finding a well maintained used car over the 120k mile hurdle is about as cost efficient and reliable as you're going to get. Everything that's gonna break or need service, will break, by 120k. Buying new is only better if the former option isn't available.
in my opinnion only. people dont plan on keeping anything long term anymore, & really dont care about long term longevity.if they kept the vehicles LONG TERM they would soon learn the importance of maintenence extending longevity.they would rather save the maintenence money & trade it in.wasting MANY thousands in the process.then wonder why they allways have a huge car payment?
This is true. If you lease a new vehicle every 3 to 5 years, do the bare minimum. The service we invest in during the first 100k miles is typically to better our odds in the second 100k miles.
My Toyota has had a number of connector problems. The contacts tend to corrode and give intermittent readings. This is an expensive repair and can fail on the road!
I trust what Toyota says. Have had several Toyotas from Yaris,Corolla. Camry and ran them all 200,000 plus. Never a fluid caused failure. The new high quality synthetic fluids are fine for 10,000 to 15,000 intervals as long as a best grade filter is used. Unnecessary fluid changes are expensive, VERY expensive.
If you changed your oil every 10-15K and are over 200K with no engine oil burning issues, I would consider yourself lucky. The 10K oil change interval is a marketing gimmick to make you think it’s cheap to maintain the new Toyota.
Don't feel bad about the independent shop rumors. Never know where that garbage starts. I've learned that from our socialist filth in DC with the fake news. If, I lived in Utah, my '18 CRV would be in your shop regularly. I am don't, so I subscribe to your channel. Really appreciate your honesty & knowledge. Thank you, so much.
Unless you drive under extreme conditions frequently there is absolutely nothing wrong with changing engine oil at 10k using synthetic of course. It's an old school way of thinking that is not relevant with todays modern synthetics. You're just wasting money and polluting the environment with these statements. As far as transmission fluid I go by what Toyota recommends. Again, if you live in Phoenix then change the trans fluid by 60k. If not then going 100k or more is perfectly ok at least on the 6 and 8 speed transmissions. I cant comment on cvts as I have no experience with those.
No offense, This whole change the oil at 3,000 or 5,000 miles is a scam just like service your transmission. I live in Colorado I have a 2015 Tundra And I'm sitting at 392,000 miles on it. Never serviced the transmission On any of my trucks. I change the oil every 15,000 miles 0 issues. I pull a camper and 4 wheelers All the time through the mountains since i RV fulltime. Now that being said probably 90% of my mileage is highway I don't burn or use any oil Between changes. This is my fourth tundra and everyone was at or over 300,000 when I traded them off. Again with absolute zero issues. I do service my transfer case front dif and rear diff once a year. And other regular maintenance Such a spark plugs Little things like that.
No offense taken. I can't argue with you because it is working for you. I obviously believe in different service intervals but thanks for the feedback. Happy RV'ing!
I will agree with you and say that you are absolutely right for Majority of the drivers out there. People that take these short drives or a lot of city driving Yes they probably need to change the fluids more often because that oil does not heat up properly as it should That could result in the Additives In the oil breaking down prematurely Causing moisture, or Acid build up And other things. Engines and transmissions are meant to work. I've always been a firm believer Using HIGH quality oil you Can get more out of them..IMO
Camry have 8 speed auto, except hybrid has ecvt. No cvt in regular Camry.
I agree with all of the comments, just bought 2024 Camry XLE, 4 cylinder, did break in oil change at 1,000 miles and will do 5,000 miles oil changes after that.
You're throwing money away by changing oil so frequently. That made sense 20 plus years ago. With the close tolerances of today's modern engines and synthetic oils your logic makes no sense.
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That this mechanic doesn’t know/understand the differences between a conventional CVT transmission, and Toyota’s eCVT in the Camry Hybrid, will only breed further confusion/misinformation. To be sure, WS fluid specified for a Camry’s eCVT shouldn’t be treated as a “lifetime fluid”, but 30K mile replacement intervals are excessive. 50K miles is more than adequate for a Toyota eCVT fluid change interval.
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@@konradhittner4668Car Care Nut says 60k miles for that transmission fluid
Thank you! All Lexus family. Change the fluids. Great advice.
Thank you!
Years ago, my air conditioner on my Jeep quit working. They wanted to replace the evaporator compressor and condenser. But they didn’t know it already had the evaporator replaced. It was brand new and the only reason I replaced was because I had to fix the heater core. When I told them it had already been replaced, they got angry with me and said they’re not in the business of fixing other peoples problems. Taking it to a mechanic who did a test and found out it was the condenser in front of the radiator we replaced that and it had no issues so fixed my problems and they wanted to charge over 1000 to replace the whole system and it did not need to be replaced
That's what happens when you buy American trash
That is a great example of the first shop breaking trust. Sorry to hear you had that experience and good on ya for finding a place that deserved your business.
This video is spot on! I love your channel 💯🙌 im from Florida
I saw the maintenance schedule for Honda’s and your website and it’s exactly what I do for my Civic 2015. My car has 125k miles 🎉
We need more honest mechanics like yourself
Just watch on youtube how much mechanics are paid - rather underpaid - and everything becomes clear.
Thank you so much!
I'm with you 10,000 miles is way too many miles on engine oil, even synthetic oil. I change my oil every 5,000 miles.
Even 10k miles is way too conservative. It’s good for 12-15k highway miles. 200k miles is nothing for a Toyota. No reason to get rid of it.
@@user-tb7rn1il3qproject fears scientifically tested oils and concurs with u. No need for short dervices
@@user-tb7rn1il3q - Check out the Car Care Nut channel if you want some real examples of what 10k oil changes do to a Toyota engine. It will last through the warranty period, but most likely would never make it to 200k. The money you saved on doing half the oil changes will just be a down payment on the engine replacement cost.
Stumbled on your channel and it came at the right time as I am looking at the Honda Civ and Toyota Camry both of which you have mentioned and use which is a great sign for me. I did take a look at your Honda & Toyota schedule but Toyota seems to be missing. Just for your own information. Keep up the channel and I will continue to learn more about ...well cars!
Thank you!
I don't trust mechanics because I've been burned (or lied to) a few times by them. So now I don't know whether a problem really exist in my car when a mechanic says one exists, or if they really changed my oil when they said they did. For instance, for my old car, I was told that my cam carrier was leaking; and then a second opinion said it wasn't. For my new car, I was told my oil was changed; then six months later for my next oil change, I was told that the drain plug is still factory new . . . I wish I could just find an honest mechanic.
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There are good ones out there. Do your homework. Read good and bad reviews. See how they respond WHEN something goes sideways.
thanks for the great advice, exactly what my boss told me, the best education on customers is when they come back and have no questions, you as a dealer have to know more then the people's who buy your product, I've been living over 30 years in Germany and even th Germany are not satisfied with ther European cars, with their life long intervals, like they say, once you payed the product it's not their problem, product anymore, regardless what people say because you broke your product and they didn't,, and parts made from plastics and then say it's cheaper to buy but not to maintain in a long term base. thanks for the video Sir and great advice.
Thank you!
Totally agree with you. I've been driving for 65 years, I believe in the old way to change oil. I run my vehicles in for the first 1,000 miles. I have an oil change, in the past, I've had to argue with Toyota service MANAGERS, telling me, no need to change it until 10,000 miles. The same dealership wanted to do a A/C system flush after the first 1,000 miles, ($90). I asked a different dealer, who said they'd never heard of that at 1,000 miles.
That is a new one. Never heard of an A/C flush on a functioning ac system. That is something you only do while the system is open for other repairs.
Sir, you my friend are honest, sincere plus have integrity! A lot of qualities a lot of people lack. Keep up the good work and thank you for taking the time in educating us.
Wow..Thank you!!!!
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton My friend, I know time is money for you! May I ask you a question about my 2019 Toyota Camry with a trouble code? If so, it has a P02f0 code. Car has 126,000 miles on it. Just to get an idea of what it is. I hope you don't mind me asking.
Another story. I had a 94 forerunner that had a recall due to head gaskets. It was deemed that it needed a short block covered by warranty. While they had had the engine apart, I asked them to put some new parts on. The dealership try to charge labor as if the parts were still on the vehicle They had to remove the water pump spark plugs timing belt to put them on on the new block. After a call to Toyota they did like I asked.
I have fortunately....or unfortunately been doing this long enough to remember when Toyota was doing a lot of heads and engines on the Toyota V6. haha
Yep I used to work for Toyota at the service center and I use to get that question all the time about 10k mileage oil change intervals on the phone and I always told them don’t do that! I never heard anything about not servicing the transmission fluid but if I got that question I would tell them the same thing you mentioned as well. Same as true for Hondas and I do that on all of my Hondas as well.
Keep up the good work my friend!
In 2004 I purchased a new Scion XB car from Toyota my very first oil change was complimentary service at the dealership. The service writer seemed very genuine until he said that my timing belt was cracked and should be replaced this was less than three months after rolling the car off the lot. I may have been born at night but it wasn’t last night! I wanted to jump over the counter and hit the service writer not to kill him just maybe knock some sense into the person who until a second ago sounded like he had some understanding about Toyota cars.
I asked the dealership at around 60,000 miles about changing the transmission fluid but they didn’t think it was necessary, I should have done more research I could have still been driving that car today 20 years later.
You are correct in your assessment of dealership maintenance they only have two motivation’s get you to buy a new car, wash rinse and repeat.
Spend your hard earned money on what the service writer suggested.
By the way the Scion comes with a chain drive timing for cam shafts.
That is why I was so angry.
That is terrible. These kind of stories really hurt our Industry. I am glad you were educated enough to call bullshit!
Makes me nervous to ever purchase a used vehicle without complete service records. I agree with you on oil change intervals and transmission fluid changes.
Yeah oil changes need regularity but from my experience as long as you buy the car 85-90k mile range you can generally do a drain and fill and the transmission will still live a long life.
A prepurchase inspection goes a long way here! a good mechanic can tell you what the service records would. especially with fluid samples!
@@slscamgthere can be a possibility the person who had the car before skipped the second transmission fluid drain at 60k miles. I heard if you skip a CVT transmission drain/ exchange the transmission will fail when you do it way over the mileage interval.
I made that mistake before, nowadays I won't buy a somewhat higher mileage car with no transmission service history
Your comments are valid and timely keep educating. I wish I could bring my vehicle to your shop.
Thank you!
I can add also customers have become more disconnected to the car they drive. 26 years ago I got into the auto repair industry and most my customers knew something about what’s under the hood. Now a days not so much. Add to the facts info on car care is all over map it’s like who is right. I will say it’s best to do 30,60,90 maintenance! It really is the best way to keep a car running good and keeping major repairs away.
30,60,90?
Agreed!
Service most fluids every 30k miles. 30k, 60k, 90k, etc
Just found your channel. Excellent advice. Could you discuss all the fluid change intervals? Collant, brake fluid, inverter fluid...
Thank you! My fluid change intervals are fairly simple. Any fluid I can test (brake fluid and coolant), I change anytime it is anywhere close to failing the test. Any fluid I can inspect (transmissions with dipstick, power steering fluid), I change anytime they show signs of darkening which is typically every 30k miles. Any fluid that I can not check or is a little more time consuming to check during a quick inspection (transmission w/o dipstick, differentials and transfer case) I service every 30k miles.
This is a great honest video. I know Hyundai has gotten away from the 7 and 10 K oil changes. 95%of people are under the severe duty and there oil change interval now is 3.750 mile recommend for severe duty.
Obviously some people in the comments didn't understand that you were only stating what you do with your cars. I agree with you on oil changes. I have a 2019 Ranger I have the oil changed at the dealership when my truck states I have 50% oil life! Modern cars use an algorithm based on how you drive, instead of specific miles driven. At 50% oil life that usually equates to around 5 to 6 thousand miles driven, that is when I change my oil. I use Mobil 1, have been using that since the 80's, have never had an oil related failure. Also tranny fluid, my Ranger is sealed, no dipstick. The recommended oil change is over 100K! That is insane. I was starting to have shifting issues and some erratic behavior. No codes were ever displayed, Ford dealership I use and trust couldn't find any issues. This was around the 50K mark, I should have changed oil at 30K, I let it slip. The dealership did a fluid flush, which was recommended. All issues I was having were gone. I have an extended warranty, so the tranny service I had done is on record with Ford. I normally don't agree with flushing a tranny, in my case it did no harm. Change that tranny oil every 30K miles, your wallet will thank you.
Idea for next video- behind Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura, who is #3 on reliability? Who is #4 or 5? What is the gap between Toyota and Honda and everyone else?
I love it. I will add that one to our list. Stay tuned!
Mazda.
Agree that the manufactuer's service interval recommendations are too long in most cases. I use full synthetic but change the oil in my truck every 5-6k. Same with the wife's Honda CRV. Lucky here in Vancouver, WA that we have a good independent shop close by. They do excellent work and charge fair prices.
That is great to hear. Tell them to keep up the good work.
Please, make more videos on your channel. I find your content great. The topics you discuss are very essential and useful. The way you discuss is also appealing to me. Carry on please!
Thank you so much for such kind words! I make my living running a shop but we do our best to bring new content every 30 days. Thanks for watching!
At 5:51 on your video, you mentioned a downloadable guide to Toyota maintenance. I have a Toyota Highlander (2018Limited ice) and a Honda. 1. I couldn’t locate the guide on your website. 2. Would the guide be applicable to my CRV (2024 EX-L) also? GREAT job!
We have made some major changes to the site over the past 30 days. I will see why it’s not displaying and leave you a comment here when i get it fixed. Thanks for letting me know.
Yes, i agree way to long on oil changes, that one toyota tech on youtube stated regardless that you should change oil at 6 months if you don't have 5k
Been said many times.... Oil is cheap engines are not cheap. Just do the right thing.
Are your Camry’s hybrids? The ICE Camry 8th generation 2018-2024 had an 8-speed transmission that was NOT CVT.
I own a 2016 tundra and as you’re explaining I’m getting differing advice on transmission fluid change duration. My shop, a local independent-highly recommended and specialized in Toyota, is recommending waiting for Toyotas mileage recommended mileage. Another UA-cam channel, the car care nut, recommends 60k. I rarely trailer and my trailer is a single axle. What are your thoughts.
If it was my truck, I would do it every 30k miles. If it was my customers vehicle, I would still recommend it every 30k miles but would be ok stretching it to 60k if the customer insisted. The thing to keep in mind is it is Preventative maintenance not necessarily required maintenance. I want my truck to last as long as possible and drive the way it does as long as possible. I am servicing mine every 30k miles to better my odds...not to guarantee my odds. That make sense?
This is why I buy new cars only, service them myself and drive them until they fail. Buying a used car, you never know how the previous owner maintained the vehicle until it's too late. The downside is, I'm still driving old cars because they tend to last 15+ years, well over 200K miles. I'm still driving the 2003 Camry (2.4) and 2008 Corolla. Both run perfectly, neither burns or leaks a drop of oil. 5k full synthetic, 30k trans fluid change. No major repairs so far.
Good on ya! You realize how many thousands of $$$ you have save over the years?
I have 2007 Camry six with 71k, but it sits in garage in Texas most of the time. Maybe put 1500 miles a year on it now. Oil change every 1 or 2 years. I know 2 years is too long. How should I be maintaining a car I don't drive much?
Do you do transmission drain and fill every 30 thousand miles or do you do transmission flushes?!
For ecvt hybrid, every 60-90k miles 6-9 years, for 8 speed automatic, every 40-60k miles 4-6 years, drain and fill I think is good. Just have to do it correctly with fluid level with scan tool.
@@hjer731 or just use a clear pan mark what comes out and put in that same amount
It depends on the vehicle. If I have access to transmission cooler hoses/lines, I use my fluid exchange machine. If I don't have access to transmission cooler hoses, I do a drain and fill.
I agree to change your transmission fluid regularly when the time is due but we got a 2005 4runner at home that we purchased brand new at the dealer and had it serviced at the dealer the first few years and they always recommend not to replace the transmission fluid because they said it was lifetime. We listen to them because we figured they knew more than we did but the first transmission fluid change should of been at 60k miles. To be honest with you the truck is 19 years old and has 240k miles & the transmission is just fine. That goes to show you how reliable Toyota is.
Yes, it is hard to find anything more reliable than an 05 Runner. And yes, I have had customers that ignore my service recommendations and still make it past 200k miles without major failures. I can promise you this though, servicing your vehicle regularly greatly increases your odds.
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton I agree with you one hundred percent, change all your oils and fluids. Even if the dealer says not to.
Great Channel! Thank you. Couldn't find your recommended service intervals on your website, as stated at 5:56 in video, unfortunately.
I looked too, couldn't find.
Sorry, jumped the gun a little bit. Website manager will have it up in a week or so.
Should be available now. Thanks!
Should be good now. Thanks!
My friend bought a used GM product. He asked me what he should do as a "tune up" I mentioned break fluid when I said change all your fluids.
He said, no GM doesn't recommend changing break fluid.
I know longer give him car advice .
Good regimen to follow ❤
Do you recommend the Toyota Oil, or a good full synthetic major brand oil. Any recommendations?
Got any shop recommendations in Omaha Nebraska like you guys?
It's interesting that, while Toyota touts a 10k mile oil change interval (normal service), the Maintenance Required light on the instrument panel of my 2015 Highlander lights up at the 5k mile mark.
Honest mechanic worth your weight in gold .
Great video. Recently found your channel and I greatly enjoy it.
Question for you. I'm having trouble finding your downloadable service schedule you mentioned on the website. Can you help narrow down the location?
Thank you! I think my man Braiden jumped the gun a little bit. We got the video edit out before we updated our Toyota page. Give us a couple weeks as we just switched companies with who is hosting and updating our website.
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton awesome. Looking forward to it.
Can I assume you'll be producing similar for the brands, specifically Honda/Acura?
@@benjaminguider1048 yes sir. Toyota and Honda will be first. Then we will get to the others as time allows.
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton fantastic! Keep up the good work to educate.
@@benjaminguider1048 Thank you!
Do you use a CVT fluid filter? Like a Magnafilter? I use it on my 2004 Honda which has an external filter.
No, we do not ever add in filters. We feel it is more likely to cause an issue than avoid an issue.
I used to like that idea also. But then consider, adding it in affects the volume and pressure, esp. as the filter fills its media. Lower volume and pressure will kill the component much quicker - and God forbid, you sell the car and don't tell them to replace that unexpected filter regularly!
@@jeffburtonnottheracecardriver I guess that makes sense if there if you're adding the filter but my Honda uses those standard.
The #1 reason for distrust is incompetence and dishonesty. Dealt with 3 shops in 4 years in Florida - one was a Lexus dealer - all were dishonest and incompetent: the Lexus dealer claimed they cleaned the throttle body and that it had to be replaced at $2200 (and tons of other issues that I had to fix: wrong wiper size, belt tension not set correctly, all fluids low, etc. ) . Cleaned it myself and had no problem since. Another shop was a total nightmare - they discarded a lot of support brackets and did not install a mount stabilizer on the active engine support so the car vibrated. The installed heat exchanger leaked on the SRS module and killed it. The third one left the gear shifter mounting nuts loose - I had to disassemble all lower dash to fix that. Then claimed that I need another $3500 in repairs - which was BS. The 4th shop was honest. And I do understand that mechanics are underpaid - so here's the result.
Sorry to hear you had such terrible experience. Thank goodness for the 4th shop doing their thing!
TCCN Automotive recommends 90k intervals on the Camry E-CVT. Thoughts?
If it was mine, I would do it every 30k.
Any advise on brake fluid and coolant intervals? Thanks for the info.
We test brake fluid and coolant with a dip strip ever visit. Brake fluid test strip is checking for moisture and copper content. Coolant test strip tests for PH and freeze/boil levels. If they ever fail or are close to fail, we recommend a flush. It is typically every 3 to 5 years.
I own 2016 Chrysler 200C AWD and I have changed my Oil with Synthetic since day one, I do not get close to 5,000 miles on oil change, rule of thumb I use is change oil every 6 months.
I let Chrysler dealership change oil, been doing car maintenance for 40 year just tired of doing it.
Any chance you could cover Mazda in general?
You bet. Full disclosure, I am not a huge Mazda fan. My daughter and soon to be son in law both work for Mazda dealers though so it will be a fun topic to give them a few fatherly jabs..haha
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton I think it would be fair to give them a chance after they split up with Ford! Also, would be very interested in knowing the regular 2.5L I4, as almost all reviewers are doing the 2.5L Turbo!
@@chih6654 I will add Mazda to the list
What would you tell a customer who brought you a 3rd gen Tacoma w/ auto trans with 150k on original trans fluid? Would you do a flush on it? Thanks!
Once it's done that many miles the clutch material in the fluid is what's keeping it working, just leave it alone and hope for the best by that point.
Yes I would service it. It has been many years since the old transmissions with thick clutches would display an issue after replacing the old fluid. If fluid is nasty, I would service it and then keep a close eye on it on the next couple oil services. If it stays fairly dirty or gets dirty again before the next 30k mile mark, I would likely service it an extra time.
Good summary. Thanks.
Very welcome
Do you recommend changing manual transmission oil at 30k miles?
I do recommend manual transmission fluid every 30k miles but based on use, it can be stretched to 50k miles.
Do you flush the tranmission
It's Toyota pushing the stupid idea of "low cost of ownership" . That's what has led to all these increased fluid change intervals... My rule of thumb is to cut all OEM intervals In half if you want your vehicle to last
I agree
I change my hybrids at 5k! Smells gassy. I'm in the upper Midwest. I warm up slowly in the winter. I do severe service intervals on everything I am in Minnesota.
I changed my wife’s new Lexus NX350h hybrid oil at 1k miles, then every 5k after that. No exception. SF Bay Area here, mild climate here.
Car Carenut says that's normal for the oil to have a gassy smell. Just keep up the 5k changes.
Do you service Subaru's on a regular basis?
Yes. Subaru's are very popular in our area and we work on them alot.
Actually if you read the owners manual carefully it says to change engine oil & filter every 5k miles
But the issue people do not read!
Aint noboby got time for that...hahaha
what are your recommendations for transmission service on a 2022 honda accord hybrid 2.0
Exact same. 30k miles
I'm on your website and I can't find that printable service schedule you mentioned.
Sorry, jumped the gun a little bit. Website manager will have it updated in the next week or so.
Should be good to go now! Thanks for your support!
Took my wife's car to the local Toyota dealer and they over filled it by 3 and a half qrts of oil you cannot trust anyone with oil changes anymore. I told my wife from now on they show her the oil level before she leaves. I have my own guidelines I always change oil every 5k synthetic, every 3k conventional oil, and every 45k on automatic transmission service. I do not buy CVT, but if I did I would service it every 25k miles because I have see CVT fluid after 20k miles its bad. If I had a turbo engine I would change oil every 3500 miles with synthetic turbos get too hot and oil breaks down sooner. Just how I service my own vehicles and I have not lost a transmission or engine.
That is frustrating they over filled it. Good on ya for staying on top of things.
How much do you charge full synthetic engine oil & transmission fluid chane?
It is different for every vehicle. If you are in our area, please call or text us at 8017716711. thanks
ALWAYS DO EVERYTHING EARLY
? So what do you think about BMW M340i
Just bought my wife a use 2023 M340i and we love it!
This Camry behind you is 8 speed not a CVT , unless it's a hybrid then it's called Ecvt planetary gear, not the bad belt CVT.
I’m a retired clinical psychologist: Technicians in all industries probably have a higher prevalence of autism spectrum disorder. This may explain their lower communication ability but they have excellent technical skills.
I have a small home based shop. I am not interested in client's that dont want to service or maintain their vehicles. They can take it elsewhere. Unmatsined vehicles are much harder to diagnose and repair.
Good on ya!
I don't see anything downloadable on the Toyota page of your website. Is it somewhere else?
Sorry, jumped the gun a little. Our website update is running a little behind. Should be up by end of next week.
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton No worries. I saw you had a service schedule out there for Honda. Probably not much different.
correct, same
it is available now.
Are your cars getting The 0W16 or 0w20 to get To 200k miles?
My Camry's will be getting 0w16 because that is what is called for. 0w20 can be used in a pinch but the manufacturer designed and tested it with 0w16.
The dealership doesn't want your car to last 200k miles or more. They want to sell you repairs and a new car every 100k miles or so. Dealerships are independently owned, not by Toyota.
Not true at all I’m a Toyota dealership technician and we love to see cars go way about 200k. They don’t push us either to get customers to trade there cars in. We actually prefer customers to keep there cars as long as it’s worth it.
Good on ya my friend!
Looking for a used rav 4 or a before cvt CRV. If they have never had transmission fluid changed and say are at 80,000-100,000, is it still a good idea to change the fluid.
Yes. It has been many many years since the myth of changing transmission fluid after too many miles will damage the transmission.
@@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton Thanks man.
Your website does not have a link to download Toyota repair.
Yes, sorry. We are doing a website refresh and it should be up in a week or two.
It's there now
The rattling noise I have in my 2012 Camry driver side dashboard is impossible to detect. Most say it is damper inside the electric power steering unit. Unreal that a piece that cost $6 bucks can take $ 500 dollars in labor.
Please tell me I just bought 2024 toyota rav xle awd on how many miles I need to change transmission oil . Rear diferental oil ...and coolant I do every day 150 - 200 miles mostly city drive stop and go. Please let me know. Thank you
Use your brain + manual or internet
Transmission and rear differential every 30k miles. Coolant, have it tested every oil service. Should last about 5 years.
This guy has big time attitude
Hell yeah I do....bring it big guy..haha
That 10k service is a consequence of "Toyota Care" with its two free oil changes in the first 2 years.
The true service interval, under the Severe Driving category, is that 5k OCI, the 30k transfer case / tranny fluid.
Its a bit disingenuous for Toyota to claim you only need a 10k OCI when most of its customers are short tripping, stop and go, city type driving. Yes that's listed in the maintenance, but calling it "severe" makes it sound like an edge case.
It really should be be a Standard schedule with a 5k OCI and a "almost nobody gentle driver" schedule of 10k
If Toyota Care was truly about longevity, it would be a 5k OCI over 2 years.
Be sure to do transmission fluid drain and fill only, and not a flush!
I always bought used vehicles, but this time I bought a corolla was only 3000 miles from the dealer because I’m not buying a car that the oil has been changed every 10,000 miles that’s crazy so I guess I can never buy used car again
QUESTION!!!! Is it even worth buying a maintenance package? The dealership wants the money up front and then decreases the number of visits for actual service.
They are typically a good deal. The problem is that in our area, the local dealers have their least experienced "technicians" doing their oil services. Not the tech I would want touching my vehicle before headed down the road.
I dont see any forms on the toyota page
Yes, sorry. We are doing a website refresh and it should be up in a week or two.
There now.
My opinion is Toyota is claiming long engine oil intervals and lifetime intervals on their transmissions...only to appeal to people for SALES...SALES...and MORE SALES. I've owned two Camrys (2005 & 2020) and I'm disappointed that Toyota is deceiving their customers like they are. That's just plain wrong. I understand other car makes are doing the same thing. They are preying on people who "don't know any better!" Shame on them!
I've always said, fluid are cheap compared to they price of a transmission, engine or radiator. I change much earlier than manufacturer states. Still running like new a 2004 Solara with 291,500 miles. No new cars for me. No payment, few if any repairs and low cost to insure ( no need for collision, it's basically worthless).
I get my 2023 Toyota RAV4 oil change done every 6 months or 8000 km (~5000 miles) which ever comes first. If the Toyota dealer won't do it, I go somewhere else.
DIY
Where can I find honest auto repair shops? Or how, rather?
DIY
Read lots of good and bad reviews. Then most importantly, see how the owner/manager responds to feedback. Then call and have conversations with shops to see if what they market lines up with what they actually do.
Car Care Nut UA-cam Agrees // 10K oil change intervals causes engines to burn oil after 100K miles //
I always thought the recommendation was x miles or x years, whichever came first.
Yeah, what ever happened to that ??
We used to recommend fluids quite often 3 years or 30k miles but we have found that the more simple we can make it, the better our clients understand. It is rare that we change fluid based on age unless a vehicle sits for a crazy long time.
They are following BMW, and formerly Mercedes. The cars would either burn out the engine at 100K miles or trans at 120k miles. And after their customers had a class action lawsuit, they backed off from the 'lifetime fluid' BS. There is no such thing in the Universe. For those cars, 5-7k miles on the oil, 60-80k on the trans/diff. 30k on the trans is excessive, but I don't know how crappy toyotas transmissions are IRT heat. Once the fluid starts cooking, acid and sludge comes next. And as far as cars go, finding a well maintained used car over the 120k mile hurdle is about as cost efficient and reliable as you're going to get. Everything that's gonna break or need service, will break, by 120k. Buying new is only better if the former option isn't available.
Posting a video about needing to change oil often will always get views. Follow the money.
Different point of view. I disagree but appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment.
Btw, oil gets dirty
"Lifetime" for a Toyota transmission fluid means a million miles. I foresee a massive class action lawsuit in Toyota's future.
in my opinnion only. people dont plan on keeping anything long term anymore, & really dont care about long term longevity.if they kept the vehicles LONG TERM they would soon learn the importance of maintenence extending longevity.they would rather save the maintenence money & trade it in.wasting MANY thousands in the process.then wonder why they allways have a huge car payment?
This is true. If you lease a new vehicle every 3 to 5 years, do the bare minimum. The service we invest in during the first 100k miles is typically to better our odds in the second 100k miles.
That Camry has a traditional 8 speed auto.
If that's a hybrid, pretty sure that came with a CVT.
@@michesbianan ECVT.
I'm gonna struggle to trust someone who doesn't even know what's under the hood of the car they are talking about...
I would not change my oil at 10k never 5k the most
I cannot get my dealer to change transmission fluid….period! They refuse! 😮
Weirdos!
My Toyota has had a number of connector problems. The contacts tend to corrode and give intermittent readings. This is an expensive repair and can fail on the road!
I trust what Toyota says. Have had several Toyotas from Yaris,Corolla. Camry and ran them all 200,000 plus. Never a fluid caused failure. The new high quality synthetic fluids are fine for 10,000 to 15,000 intervals as long as a best grade filter is used. Unnecessary fluid changes are expensive, VERY expensive.
If you changed your oil every 10-15K and are over 200K with no engine oil burning issues, I would consider yourself lucky. The 10K oil change interval is a marketing gimmick to make you think it’s cheap to maintain the new Toyota.
Did any of those cars have direct injection, turbos or CVT transmissions?
Repair Industry - Incompetence and Greed .
Wow...a bit aggressive but I am sure there are some stories behind those feelings.
Don't feel bad about the independent shop rumors. Never know where that garbage starts. I've learned that from our socialist filth in DC with the fake news. If, I lived in Utah, my '18 CRV would be in your shop regularly. I am don't, so I subscribe to your channel. Really appreciate your honesty & knowledge. Thank you, so much.
Thank you. I appreciate your support and kind comment!
Unless you drive under extreme conditions frequently there is absolutely nothing wrong with changing engine oil at 10k using synthetic of course. It's an old school way of thinking that is not relevant with todays modern synthetics. You're just wasting money and polluting the environment with these statements. As far as transmission fluid I go by what Toyota recommends. Again, if you live in Phoenix then change the trans fluid by 60k. If not then going 100k or more is perfectly ok at least on the 6 and 8 speed transmissions. I cant comment on cvts as I have no experience with those.
I appreciate the feedback but obviously disagree completely. Thanks for watching.
I trust the fella who services hundreds of these cars (thousands over the course of decades)
Flat rate
No offense, This whole change the oil at 3,000 or 5,000 miles is a scam just like service your transmission. I live in Colorado I have a 2015 Tundra And I'm sitting at 392,000 miles on it. Never serviced the transmission On any of my trucks. I change the oil every 15,000 miles 0 issues. I pull a camper and 4 wheelers All the time through the mountains since i RV fulltime. Now that being said probably 90% of my mileage is highway I don't burn or use any oil Between changes. This is my fourth tundra and everyone was at or over 300,000 when I traded them off. Again with absolute zero issues. I do service my transfer case front dif and rear diff once a year. And other regular maintenance Such a spark plugs Little things like that.
No offense taken. I can't argue with you because it is working for you. I obviously believe in different service intervals but thanks for the feedback. Happy RV'ing!
I will agree with you and say that you are absolutely right for Majority
of the drivers out there. People that take these short drives or a lot of city driving Yes they probably need to change the fluids more often because that oil does not heat up properly as it should That could result in the Additives In the oil breaking down prematurely Causing moisture, or Acid build up And other things. Engines and transmissions are meant to work. I've always been a firm believer Using HIGH quality oil you Can get more out of them..IMO