reputation um they didn't mean it like that...it was a rhetorical question. They meant that they liked everyone and couldn't choose a bias. Maybe you shouldn't call people stupid if you don't understand what they are saying. That was highly unnecessary.
This was an awesome guide. I mean I know them all and stan our 10 scaredy cat dorks. But I love watching them anyway. As for being helpful, it was because it gives an overview of who Pentagon is, without to many inside jokes that only Universes know.
The Kgomibako You're very welcome! I have watched several of these guides & honestly I haven't come across another one that gives as much info, w/out being overwhelming or maybe containing lots of inside fandom jokes. I have used your guide lots of times to introduce Pentagon to friends. I should have said something. For that I apologise, bc it's awesome.
Yutodaa. Guys let me tell u being a multistan is the best thing ever. Whenever I got time i just sip into a fandom. It's been Bigbang, BTS, Got7, Monsta X, IKON, Blackpink, EXO, Astro, Twice, NCT, Seventeen, Winner and look at me now slipping into Pentagon. Life is that beautiful if you give all groups a chance.
I agree with you. I mostly stan EXO and BigBang these past few years but when I started watching other groups, I just fell in love. Now it's EXO, BigBang, Red Velvet, BlackPink, GOT7, NCT, Super Junior, Twice, Seventeen and now Pentagon. 💕💕
leinotlie you are not the only one i thought it too..... i was seriously amazed by shine soo i decided to stan them and e'dawn was the one who caught my attention.. he is soooo cute... plus my bias in big bang is gd.... i think in some side he also looks like gd
That lay me down cover is the best thing that happened to my ears 💖💖 love jinho's voice. E'dawn and hongseok😭😍😍💗💗💗 Edit: I can't with Hong's beautiful vocals 😭❤️😍 and I live for e'dawn's screeches someone help
12/10 would recommend pros pentagon are literally children 😆 pentagon is lovable pentagon are my babies pentagon is a group that Is WaY tOo TaLeNtEd pentagon is a group of visuals pentagon is a group of vocals pentagon is a group of ships 😂 pentagon is a group of multi groups pentagon is a group of rappers pentagon is a group that does their own thing pentagon has a bond with each other like no other ❤️ cons I CANT CHOOSE A BIAS THEY HAVENT WON ANYTHING YET THEY ARE LIKE WAY TOO TALENTED (is that a con lmao) THEY NEED MUCH LOVE (is that a con 😂)
gamer unicorn ?? If your talking about edawn the you can just leave it doesn’t matter what he does he is a fucking human and deserves to have a life outside pentagon/triple h/cube he can be with whoever he fucking wants to and it wouldn’t change the fact that he and the rest of pentagon are my babies if you have a problem with that you can just leave
gamer unicorn Uhm they were having their time of their lives since we won't know when will our lives end If you just said that to your liking then it's better to let someone sew your lips so it won't say anything unnecessary or anything at all Bad day to you :D
Damn the whole world is sleeping on this group. I’m so sad that E Dawn left, but I’ll definitely support all of the boys no matter what, they’re all incredible. They are one of the strongest groups out there and seriously deserve so much more recognition.
1:25 i can’t watch like this without crying lol it’s just so beautiful and perfect i love to watch unhelpful guides to groups that i already stan is it weird
Also don’t let anyone wear a beanie in the dorm, Yanan go snatch your WEEVE, Yanan: Victim, Wooseok! Wooseok: *Beanie gets pulled off* MY HAIR..., MY BEANIE!!! Also Jinho’s flaming fingers tips lol sssizle Idk lol
Bless this guide ;~; I honestly never thought I'd ever stan another group after NCT again until I saw Pentagon at KCON NY this year. I wish I had known them before because they have so much charisma and stage presence!!! You can tell they really enjoy what they do and how much hard work they put into their music/choreography ;~; plus they have bops. I havent been disappointed in any of their title tracks so far.
This is literally my favorite Guide to Pentagon? Are you gonna make a Guide for other Groups or other Videos for Pentagon?! I know how much Work it is but if you're other Videos would be as good as this one O.O
Aw thank you ;-; Idk which type of video I'm gonna do next but I plan on making more so stay tuned pls ≈≈ Seeing your comment made me so happy haha I'm glad you liked it ^^
Yep dw I don't mind haha as long as they credit me/say my name somewhere it's okay with me ^^ Hope you'll keep me updated if someone reacts haha I'll feel so honored I might cry haha
So I'm going around trying to find a group to stan and I found pentagon by chance...this was a really helpful guide, I'm honestly impressed by their vocals they all have amazing voices :) I'm gonna look into them more!
This is how to fall in love with Pentagon 101 I am stressed. I thought E'Dawn was my bias, he was the only one I knew and I wasn't too much into Pentagon. Fuck, this is hard, I wanna smash my head against my laptop, two years ignoring all these talented, handsome and extra men ;-; I don't think I'll be able to have a single stable bias, I'm just gonna let myself get wrecked by all of them 💁🏻✨
Thank you ! Yeah haha there's too few videos about them online and they really deserve to have more and get more attention 'cause they are so talented and precious so I tried to help a bit by making this video. It's not much but I hope one day they'll finally get the attention they truly deserve, until then we'll cheer for them haha ^^
I know it that Wooseok was the youngest, and Jinho the oldest, and Hui the leader and main vocal. ( this is what i was thinking when i saw them for the first time, on shine) THIS IS ALL THANKS TO GOT7 WHO THE YOUNGER IS TO TALL AND THE OLDER IS LIKE THE YOUNGEST!!!!!! p.s.: GOT7 is my ut.bias. My Pentagon bias is Edawn and Wooseok
as someone whos trying to get into them, thank you for making this, i dont prefer meme guides because usually theyre jokes people dont understand. but im trying to get into 3 groups because im only in two. this is really helpful.
i remember watching mix and match and wondering what happened to my child hongseok. im so happy he's apart of pentagon, y'all im ready to stan. e' dawn baby, I've got my eyes on you!
Guys! I’m an ARMY and new to Pentagon but I can’t stop watching videos about them. I love yanan, he’s so precious and I think he’s my bias! Hongseok is my wrecker FOR SURE. I love this group so much and I still have so much to learn. 😩
I started to listen them with shine and Love their voices. So, I bought the last album Positive. Not regret for stand to stand them. They are so talent
This is so helpful! Well made and with a lot of important things about them. I am trying to stan them even if it's difficult because there are so many! (I stan nct and I say this wth)
im an AROHA and im searching for other groups to but its hard for me to find BOY GROUPS ... but after listening to SHINE im starting to like them plus i saw them on THE IMMIGRATION... and to me astro and pentagon are kinda similar... the fact that both their fandom names are about the galaxy (astro-aroha) (pentagon-universe) and that both their oldest members act and look like a maknae plus having amazing vocals/ main vocalist..... annddddd the fact that their maknae's are very tall but the oldest is way shorter😂😂😂 but im not saying they're are the same... because they're srsly very different😂
ok firstly, i found this very helpful as someone trying to get into them and secondly, i freaked out at 4:14 bc i absolutely LOVE (love) (g) i-dle as well as pentagon now after this video
yo if i could memorize my 21 sons from nct you bet i can recognize ten boys and IM REALLY JUST HERE TO START STANNING RN WHY DID I SLEEP ON THEM FOR SO LONG
Quite a few things have changed since this aired. Hui has a bunch of live performances on various shows. Same with jinho. Hongseok is always late now lol
I have like 3 months stanning them and the only one who is closer to be my bias is wooseok, but if he wasn't there, idk who can be my bias. they all are so talented and amazing human beings that is so hard to focus just on one for a bias
No no of course they are! I'm just saying that they are physically able to sing higher, that doesn't mean one is less talented than the other. I love them all, they're all my babies.
Kayak Cat ooh ok Ofc sorry sorry, I’m new to pentagon and I really want to get more into them. Do you have any tips on what to watch to get to know them better since I like knowing the members before listening to music
Omgggg. Hongseok is the hongseok i knew from mix&match. That's why he looked familiar. Anyway, I am thinking of becoming their fan so thanks for this vid! Really helped me a lot (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤
There's Jinho and Hui's high notes for days and then there's E-Dawn's
E'Dawn
"looks dead most of the time but I swear he's nice"
I CANNOT BREARHTE 😂
But tbh when I first saw him I thought he's dead inside and dangerous 😂
When you already stan and love them but you still watch the whole 25 minutes for a good content.
as an american trying to get into them, can confirm this is extremely helpful lol.
thank you!
Aw thank you haha glad I helped ^^
Laura Reynolds j
Laura Reynolds Yesssssss!!!!!!
Why the fuck should it matter that you’re American? Are u saying that non Americans can’t find this video helpful?
A very Pink penguin wtf i agree that its helpful for everyone in general but damn you didn’t have to say it like that. rude af.
They are so under-rated like seriously these guys are really talented. I'm already in love with all 10 of them😍
yuto is my favourite.
thanks for reading.
bye bye now.
stan yuto.
yes.
thank you.
élise webb YUTO-DA
Strong power thank you
Wait
Wrong fandom
Sorry
YUTO STAND YESSSS
Yutoda...
Yee stan talent stan Yuto
Jinho's highnote is higher than Yanan. lmao
cahyaniify YOU RIGHT
Wtf even is a bias.
Normz da kpoptrash ik right, even with NCT and SVT
reputation um they didn't mean it like that...it was a rhetorical question. They meant that they liked everyone and couldn't choose a bias. Maybe you shouldn't call people stupid if you don't understand what they are saying. That was highly unnecessary.
@stream reputation r/whoosh
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lol so ironic you called people names like you're perfect😂😂 wake up from your good dreams lmao
OMG i don't even know that Jinho can rap that gud and that low voice thooooooo
quy diem Huynh i think he was supposed to debut with exo as a rapper but i’m not sure
I still cant get over Yanan's made in china lmao
Wonho's Baby Snake Same lol 😂
Wooseok is the mixer of kris wu and jungkook. Btw stan all the members💗💗
he is! so handsome and cute!
More like scoups from seventeen
Armys everywhere, Joking bro yes! I was trying to put my finger on who he reminds me of and you nailed it
Army_Carat사미라 I agree!
mixture of Kris and Lai Kuanlin I’d say...
This was an awesome guide. I mean I know them all and stan our 10 scaredy cat dorks. But I love watching them anyway. As for being helpful, it was because it gives an overview of who Pentagon is, without to many inside jokes that only Universes know.
Thanks a lot it's very encouraging to hear that ^^ I tried my best haha ≈≈
The Kgomibako You're very welcome! I have watched several of these guides & honestly I haven't come across another one that gives as much info, w/out being overwhelming or maybe containing lots of inside fandom jokes. I have used your guide lots of times to introduce Pentagon to friends. I should have said something. For that I apologise, bc it's awesome.
Yutodaa. Guys let me tell u being a multistan is the best thing ever. Whenever I got time i just sip into a fandom. It's been Bigbang, BTS, Got7, Monsta X, IKON, Blackpink, EXO, Astro, Twice, NCT, Seventeen, Winner and look at me now slipping into Pentagon. Life is that beautiful if you give all groups a chance.
Heyy my fam highfive for living the best life 👋
I agree with you. I mostly stan EXO and BigBang these past few years but when I started watching other groups, I just fell in love. Now it's EXO, BigBang, Red Velvet, BlackPink, GOT7, NCT, Super Junior, Twice, Seventeen and now Pentagon. 💕💕
I love your comment!
my ass thought you're doing the idol radio intro af
Give ateez a chance please
Out of all the guides i’ve watched on pentagon this one was honestly the best and easiest one to understand, thank you!! 😩💗
Aw thank you I'm very happy you found it easy to understand hope it'll help you in stanning if you aren't already ≈≈
E'dawn sounds like g-dragon what the heck am i hearing wrong
leinotlie you are not the only one i thought it too..... i was seriously amazed by shine soo i decided to stan them and e'dawn was the one who caught my attention.. he is soooo cute... plus my bias in big bang is gd.... i think in some side he also looks like gd
sounds like GD, and kinda looks like Hyuna... :D Kid of legends :D
Wait.. I thought he looked like Yoongi
I’m the same, did you hear him singing Fantastic baby? Omg I thought it was GD😱 ua-cam.com/video/Kk-Z2qnr3JY/v-deo.html
PRETTY U IS EVERYTHING HEEEW Maybe a mix between GD and Yoongi
That lay me down cover is the best thing that happened to my ears 💖💖 love jinho's voice. E'dawn and hongseok😭😍😍💗💗💗
Edit: I can't with Hong's beautiful vocals 😭❤️😍 and I live for e'dawn's screeches someone help
me: meets edawn
*high notes for day*
“oh he can hit them notes too?”
edawn: *SCREAMS*
I'm dead
yuto is the definition of hot
12/10 would recommend
pros
pentagon are literally children 😆
pentagon is lovable
pentagon are my babies
pentagon is a group that
Is WaY tOo TaLeNtEd
pentagon is a group of visuals
pentagon is a group of vocals
pentagon is a group of ships 😂
pentagon is a group of multi groups
pentagon is a group of rappers
pentagon is a group that does their own thing
pentagon has a bond with each other like no other ❤️
cons I CANT CHOOSE A BIAS
THEY HAVENT WON ANYTHING YET
THEY ARE LIKE WAY TOO TALENTED (is that a con lmao)
THEY NEED MUCH LOVE (is that a con 😂)
Hope lily what was your "baby" doing with that woman
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) hmmm???
gamer unicorn ?? If your talking about edawn the you can just leave it doesn’t matter what he does he is a fucking human and deserves to have a life outside pentagon/triple h/cube he can be with whoever he fucking wants to and it wouldn’t change the fact that he and the rest of pentagon are my babies if you have a problem with that you can just leave
gamer unicorn
Uhm they were having their time of their lives since we won't know when will our lives end
If you just said that to your liking then it's better to let someone sew your lips so it won't say anything unnecessary or anything at all
Bad day to you :D
The talent is unbelievable and lowkey i have 9 bias wreckers 😂😭STAN PENTAGON ❤️❤️
Girl I feel you so much be strong haha 😂
Kaja Cerar s
Damn the whole world is sleeping on this group. I’m so sad that E Dawn left, but I’ll definitely support all of the boys no matter what, they’re all incredible. They are one of the strongest groups out there and seriously deserve so much more recognition.
1:25 i can’t watch like this without crying lol it’s just so beautiful and perfect
i love to watch unhelpful guides to groups that i already stan is it weird
I can watch Kino laughing compilations all day
i'm shookt at jinho's rapping skills. amazinggggggg
Also don’t let anyone wear a beanie in the dorm, Yanan go snatch your WEEVE,
Yanan: Victim, Wooseok!
Wooseok: *Beanie gets pulled off* MY HAIR..., MY BEANIE!!!
Also Jinho’s flaming fingers tips lol sssizle
Idk lol
So Im a hardcore ahgase but .. I really like this PENTAGON rightnowww
13:08 "Loves Harry Styles with a burning passion..." SAME 😂
Literally all of their outfits are 11/10 wow
Omg EDawn's scream!! I'm dead😂😂😂
Bless this guide ;~;
I honestly never thought I'd ever stan another group after NCT again until I saw Pentagon at KCON NY this year. I wish I had known them before because they have so much charisma and stage presence!!! You can tell they really enjoy what they do and how much hard work they put into their music/choreography ;~; plus they have bops. I havent been disappointed in any of their title tracks so far.
wow i am shook this group is so talented
your editing made this twice as enjoyable lol. that "also hey Yuto" XD
Aw thanks haha
16:40 that's my favourite part in shine. my heart melts. my baby
This is literally my favorite Guide to Pentagon? Are you gonna make a Guide for other Groups or other Videos for Pentagon?!
I know how much Work it is but if you're other Videos would be as good as this one O.O
Aw thank you ;-; Idk which type of video I'm gonna do next but I plan on making more so stay tuned pls ≈≈ Seeing your comment made me so happy haha I'm glad you liked it ^^
The Kgomibako Is it OK if I ask People to react to your Guide? Most others are simply to fast for most People to read...
Yep dw I don't mind haha as long as they credit me/say my name somewhere it's okay with me ^^ Hope you'll keep me updated if someone reacts haha I'll feel so honored I might cry haha
So I'm going around trying to find a group to stan and I found pentagon by chance...this was a really helpful guide, I'm honestly impressed by their vocals they all have amazing voices :) I'm gonna look into them more!
btw i believe Cube Entertainment artist are getting better and more popular day by day, since also G-(i)dle debuted
HELP I'M OBSESSED
imma just say it ... hui is one of the best idol vocalists out there
no matter where I go, I will always come back to this video:)
I just feel inlove by Jinho's voice 💜
_Kino & Hongseok biased_
edit: I mean his the main vocal but his rapping skills is on 🔥
This is how to fall in love with Pentagon 101
I am stressed. I thought E'Dawn was my bias, he was the only one I knew and I wasn't too much into Pentagon. Fuck, this is hard, I wanna smash my head against my laptop, two years ignoring all these talented, handsome and extra men ;-;
I don't think I'll be able to have a single stable bias, I'm just gonna let myself get wrecked by all of them 💁🏻✨
wooseok is the definition of giant baby i love him so much😔💗
This boys is the first kpop group i STAN .. I dont know y?? i just love them ❤❤
JACKSON'S 'CUTE' AS A REACTION TO YEO ONE'S GAJA IS LITERALLY THE MOT ACCURATE THING IM WHEEZING
OMG Yeo One rocking out to Green Day is just amazing i love Kpop and alternative music
This is ArT! Thank you the world needs more vids of them ^^
Thank you ! Yeah haha there's too few videos about them online and they really deserve to have more and get more attention 'cause they are so talented and precious so I tried to help a bit by making this video. It's not much but I hope one day they'll finally get the attention they truly deserve, until then we'll cheer for them haha ^^
I know it that Wooseok was the youngest, and Jinho the oldest, and Hui the leader and main vocal. ( this is what i was thinking when i saw them for the first time, on shine)
THIS IS ALL THANKS TO GOT7 WHO THE YOUNGER IS TO TALL AND THE OLDER IS LIKE THE YOUNGEST!!!!!!
p.s.: GOT7 is my ut.bias. My Pentagon bias is Edawn and Wooseok
Geovana Gama EDAWNNNNNN
as someone whos trying to get into them, thank you for making this, i dont prefer meme guides because usually theyre jokes people dont understand. but im trying to get into 3 groups because im only in two. this is really helpful.
i saw this, said “i dont need it but im gonna watch anyway for quality content. was not disappointed”
can we talk about how e'dawn is the g dragon of the new generation, they have the same vibe ya dig?
i remember watching mix and match and wondering what happened to my child hongseok. im so happy he's apart of pentagon, y'all im ready to stan. e' dawn baby, I've got my eyes on you!
13:06 this Go Shinwon guy is highkey my spirit animal 😂
Guys! I’m an ARMY and new to Pentagon but I can’t stop watching videos about them. I love yanan, he’s so precious and I think he’s my bias! Hongseok is my wrecker FOR SURE. I love this group so much and I still have so much to learn. 😩
Wait. Kino is really precious. Help me. I’m drowning in 10 visuals.
Ohmygad .. At the moment yeo one said kaja and jackson popped out hahaha... I bet you're an ahgase too
yes I am haha I'm multi fandom af
HOLD UP.
Jinho did NOT just rap like THAT.
It’s crazy how underrated they are. I’m stanning these babies.
10:43 they're singing 'the queen of the night' from 'the magic flute' by mozart i think. INTELLECTUALS.
ive heard like 4 songs and all my friends said i should stan so thank u for this really helpful!!
I finally gave in and watched this video after having PENTAGON pop up in my recommended.... greatest decision ever ❤❤❤❤
17:21 I died because of Kino's face
Wait I’m stanning they’re amazing
Stan Talent. Stan Pentagon.
15:55
*HUI EVERYTHING IS A MESS DOING SOMETHING*
Hui: i'm busy
I think I'm gonna love them
OMG! I'm so impresed because their voices, they sing so beautiful 😍
10:44 Now I'm truly impressed 😰
14:09 I'm agree Jackson 🌚
15:25 ah m Yb poor heart is melting from all the cuteness!!!
I started to listen them with shine and Love their voices. So, I bought the last album Positive. Not regret for stand to stand them. They are so talent
the only thing that could make pentagon screaming at a cake for almost five minutes better would be you adding "pls stan" as they do it.
Oml you should’ve added the clip where instead of calling his mom like Hui and Wooseok, Hyojong deadass called Hyuna
I'm a new fan and now I'm into them they mean so much for me, they are always making me laugh and fascinate me with all their skills 💕
Literally ten seconds into the music videos I'm like "I need to listen to EVERY album after this!"
OOF THIS VIDEO WRECKED MY BIAS LIST
This is so helpful! Well made and with a lot of important things about them. I am trying to stan them even if it's difficult because there are so many! (I stan nct and I say this wth)
Omg hi thanks and i hope you'll be able to get into them eventually bc they're really worth it ! ^^ (yeah i know the feel with nct haha)
SOMEBODY HELP I'VE WATCH THIS VIDEO TOO MANY TIMES I NEED TO STOP
They deserved to be appreciated MORE. Cuz bruh. They produce good music consists of good choreo and outstanding vocals and rap skills.
a good guide for the people who wants to know them 👏
anyway, I saw seungkwan's "FASHTION" there. 😂 (k. don't mind me)
He's iconic hehe ;)
im an AROHA and im searching for other groups to but its hard for me to find BOY GROUPS ... but after listening to SHINE im starting to like them plus i saw them on THE IMMIGRATION...
and to me astro and pentagon are kinda similar... the fact that both their fandom names are about the galaxy (astro-aroha) (pentagon-universe) and that both their oldest members act and look like a maknae plus having amazing vocals/ main vocalist.....
annddddd the fact that their maknae's are very tall but the oldest is way shorter😂😂😂
but im not saying they're are the same... because they're srsly very different😂
Omg same 😔😔
this is so beautiful i hope more ppl can learn to appreciate them hahaha
What was the song that jinho and hongseok sang? :) can someone tell me please 😊
JWELFPTG thank you! 😊
And omg it was published in 2015 and I listened to it for the first time 😱😂
ok firstly, i found this very helpful as someone trying to get into them and secondly, i freaked out at 4:14 bc i absolutely LOVE (love) (g) i-dle as well as pentagon now after this video
22:53 oh my god, the size difference lol. Also, Yuto kind of reminds me of Matsumoto Jun from Arashi lol.
I was told by a stranger to stan pentagon and now I’m here. So I love pentagon now :)
yo if i could memorize my 21 sons from nct you bet i can recognize ten boys and IM REALLY JUST HERE TO START STANNING RN WHY DID I SLEEP ON THEM FOR SO LONG
Thank you for this! Im tryna get into more groups and pentagon caught my attention, so this was super helpful!
the most helpful guide to pentagon 💜
thank u so much 💚
You're welcome and thank you for enjoying it 💜
Anyone notice it was typed as 12/10 but the voice read it as 10/12 ?
You know I have been a fan for a long time but I cry every time I hear Jinho's angel voice.
Ok Jo Jinho stole my heart and I’m only 5 minutes into the video 😂
Quite a few things have changed since this aired. Hui has a bunch of live performances on various shows. Same with jinho. Hongseok is always late now lol
Wooseok is cute😍 i like him 💞
I guess he's your bias-
@@kellycore yeah, but Yuto's wrecking it 😩❤
@@exoloey61 thats what you call:
Bias wrecker-
@@kellycore ikr
I'm new fan ...
Pentagon I'm coming for you 😍😍😊
I found my bias .. WOOSEOK , YANAN , KINO are my new bias 😍😍😘
13:21
13:24
13:33
evil maknae
The way yanan take wooseok's cap 15:56 😂
what is yuto's song titled? the one at 18:30. thank youuu
5:43 can we just pause and take a moment to praise the angel in front of us
waaaaaaah i`m whipped outttt
for Jinho
I have like 3 months stanning them and the only one who is closer to be my bias is wooseok, but if he wasn't there, idk who can be my bias. they all are so talented and amazing human beings that is so hard to focus just on one for a bias
And i thought Jimin, Jin, and Taehyung could sing high. Jesus christ they just got beat.
Pls don’t compare them bc they’re all extremely talented and amazing!
No no of course they are! I'm just saying that they are physically able to sing higher, that doesn't mean one is less talented than the other. I love them all, they're all my babies.
Kayak Cat ooh ok Ofc sorry sorry, I’m new to pentagon and I really want to get more into them. Do you have any tips on what to watch to get to know them better since I like knowing the members before listening to music
Katherin Gonzales honestly no, I'm still pretty new as well ;7;
Katherin Gonzales maybe Pentory and Pentagon Maker?
Omgggg. Hongseok is the hongseok i knew from mix&match. That's why he looked familiar. Anyway, I am thinking of becoming their fan so thanks for this vid! Really helped me a lot (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤
8:09 same kino, same