Note; owning a race car is like buying a horse. The PURCHASE price is the cheapest part of the deal. Maintaining and replacing broken parts will duplicate the purchase price, over and over again.
Thank You for such amazing details in all your videos!! I’m a big FAN of yours!! I want to Race so bad but I can’t because I’m so busy, I grew up watching my Uncle race in the Watsonville CA, Fairgrounds as a kid and he kicked ASS racing especially watching him race the figure 8 lol 😂 he WON cash. He is the best engine builder in Califorina and is a legend! Seeing your videos brings back great memories! God Bless you for sharing your experience & if you ever come to Las Vegas I got you!
What do you mean exactly by build up a reputation? I am looking to get into the sport, but don't really know any other way than to just front the money.
@@Faltar06 Get you name and car known around the track...a good reputation as a driver, its pretty self explanatory, sponsors wanna have their name associated with popular drivers, your a mobile billboard around the race scene lol
Hey, great job detailing the actual costs and options !! Thank you for taking the time to do that and post it. My costs are right in line with what you have said, but I am unsponsored, difficult to do as a hobby and be a serious up front contender... I can drive it but my son is the real racer of my machine.
THANK YOU! I’m 16 and my buddies and I are putting together a WISSOTA street stock. I e been trying to look on the internet for help, but you explained it really well. I watched the over video about starting as well. Again, very informative and helpful. Thank you
I really enjoy your videos. Im at carolina every fri and i found myself pulling for ya. Keep up the good work and good clean driving youll be in victory lane b4 you know it
What awesome video you put together for us ThreeZero Racing. Lots of great INFO and I really enjoyed all the tips and price chart. Keep up the good work!!!
Our local tracks are trying g to make it more affordable in 3 of 5-6 classes by using the GM 602 Crate engines. Only difference in the divisions engine is Carb size. 2 or 4 barrel. But evn those limited in cfms.
Yes one can race and be competitive but it takes a lot of elbow grease to do that, all the folks that are successful have that in common. A thought. Since it’s been a while how much more expensive to have Leagon or Blackwell to do you heads and recommend a cam. Back several years ago one of the folks I helped did that, got a local auto machine shop to do the machine work on the bottom end and had the heads reworked by one of the above. Saved a few bucks but the performance was improved. You may have done this if so my bad
James Dedmon we have used Blackwell for machine work on our current motor. We’re going to look at some options for next year. I built this one on a very limited budget; our heads are pretty much stock but the rest of it is decent stuff. Thanks for the advice and watching!👍
I can second this. My cavalier mini mod I paid $1000 roughly to install the roll cage. Gutting the car cost me about 2 weeks and it's a long process. The parts is where you're gonna go broke, the better the parts the more you're gonna spend like with any car. The wheels have to be exchanged too so it's about a couple hundred for Hoosier fit rims.
You can have a lot more motor than that for 5k, also you dont need racing fuel for a basically stock motor, you only need it until you start bumping up the compression ratio in the 11 to 1 or up neighborhood. Other that that you a ok. Best thing for someone that wants to race on a budget is to run a limited schedule, like once a month or 4 times a year, that alone will save you a ton....
The motor I originally started with in this video actually needed to be fixed at the machine shop so I threw that in on the price, also the class that I ran required us to run VP 110 or "track fuel' as they called so unfortunately it wasn't an option to run pump gas
my dads friend from work is giving me his thunder stock it needs the engine rebuilt btw my dad was a racer back in 1986 he used a Nova hobby stock class
Thinking of taking my son's Dodge Caliber and racing it at local dirt track. Not looking to be front runner...just have fun and the thrill. 61 too old to race?
This is a great video. I’m a Legends racer in Gastonia looking to transition to Dirt in Thunder Bombers. I plan to watch all your videos. Maybe I’ll stop by and say hell, I plan to spend some time at ELS and Carolina this year.
@markhenry15 Nah, I built a Hickory car. I'm retired now and the little man drives Wing Karts at Millbridge Speedway. Funny thing is I've never been on Dirt. He's bever been on Asphalt. We might cya at Carolina Speedway Inna few years.
Looks like you're in Florida or Alabama. Where do you run? I used to run down south in both states but now I run in upstate NY at Lebanon Valley Speedway
Building a car is always more expensive than what you think. Nobody truly remembers every nickel and dime they put into it. Driving around to pick up parts, nuts, bolts, rivets, welding supplies, long nights in the shop with coffee and fast food runs. Drill bits, fuel lines , buying tools you only use once for oddball jobs. Buying a winning car turn key cash is always cheaper in the long run.
I never had a Sponsor when I race and when my son races. I think with a sponsor I have watched with these drivers. Drivers do not seem to care about the car because there sponsor is going to pay for it. That's why I never had a sponsor, I just used my head racing. Without crashing or blowing the thing up. I made money that whey.
I did a new build In 2023 and I'm still dumping money into it. I have over 30K into this car. But that is a complete new built, 90% of the components/parts are brand new.
I raced asphalt street stocks in PA (Now looking to get into a asphalt Modified in the WV/VA area) I raced 10 inch Slicks and we would put 4 new tires on the car every 4-5 weeks, just wondering on the dirt how often you put new tires on the car or do you buy like 6 tires at the beginning of the season and the last all season. Good luck and keep digging.
Any high horsepower class requires new rear tires every week or every other week if the track isnt real slick. I get 3 or 4 weeks out of a set in a crate late model. But I flip the rear tires constantly.
This is how we started 1 we got a 2,300 dollar pure stock 2 we fixed the oil issue 3 raced it 4 win That's how my family started lol BUT matniece is the most expensive part cause you wreck and have issues
Make sure you ask a knowledgeable person before buying anything especially used stuff. There's alot guys trying to sell absolute junk parts and cars to unsuspecting new comers to the sport.
And be realistic. If you really like sprint cars but only have 8 grand to work with realise you could buy a turd of a car and just putz around in the back or you could buy a street stock and actually have something decent and be able to race competitively and have fun.
That 3200 on the car is that the weight requirements for that class and thank you for your opinion on gloves very important listen up guys very important
Very entertaining my man well played and just busting balls I'm going to assume that 200 of the 3200 is driver lol just goofing thanks for the channel love it
And there's some lucky people who can find good deals on Cars and parts. Me being one kinda so far we've put over $5,000 but almost $6,000 into and that should be just about it for it and that includes the price we bought the car $500 and the car was in shit condition four tires, springs, body, fuel cell and electric everything has been replaced or reused like the tires, fuel cell and the body which is being repainted. Also this is for a Wissota Street Stock. Plus they don't require a fire extinguisher in your car yeaa. Plus that's just for one year.
I drove my cavalier enduro racecar to the race track with plates and lights. Got the the track, pulled my headlights and tail lights and raced. Prolly not the best thing to do but I got to run a real dirt track enduro race. Just make sure you have a way to get home if you wreck your car, and a way to get the car home.
What I didn't mention is the 5k includes major machine work for a race engine. Plus all brand new parts all the way through that were considered "lower end" for our division
It's pretty much a street stock other than the firewall being sheet metal. Motor is a little more upgraded than a factory engine but not much more. When I refer to street stocks, I'm talking about a class that runs around here that is pretty much a super stock class but we call it "Street Stocks"
$5k? For a stock engine? Sounds odd. Maybe I missed something but, I know a 604 crate engine is only $3k. Will you please explain why so much for a "stock" engine? Love your vids, hope to visit your local track in 2019. Do they run modifides there as well?
604 crate is about 6000.00. Also our price includes machine work and everything else. An upper end race engine around here for my class is around 14,000.00
Well from what I know they will let 13 year olds who have driven go-carts to race B-mods with both parents permissions, for Street Stock I assume it's the same though I'm sixteen and start this year in a Street Stock then it's up to a Super. Also this is with Wissota rules im talking so I'm not sure how much the difference is down there.
@@ThreeZeroRacing yup and I'm only a back filler. about 35k per car and 1700 win purse at best if you race six weeks in a row on weekly events. Street stocks was more bang for the buck.
Some tracks make you fill out a tax form if you received over "X" amount of money with them throughout the year. When I racde Carolina Speedway they would send me a form to send to my tax people stating I earned "X" amount at their track and that I needed to pay taxes on it
$5K to put a stock engine together isn't that great of a price lol for $5k you could've had a fairly decent semi mild built engine with plenty nice upgrades especially if its a sbc but pretty much the same for any carbed v8 engine
Lol. Your racing in the cheap buddy. It costs me 1400.00 every sat night just to run my sprint car and that’s if nothing goes wrong with regular expenses tires food fuel pit passes etc. In all I spend an average of $90,000.00 a season. And we’re considered a low budget team.
Note; owning a race car is like buying a horse. The PURCHASE price is the cheapest part of the deal. Maintaining and replacing broken parts will duplicate the purchase price, over and over again.
What parts break most frequently?
Depends on the track and how rough the track is.
@@edwinwx260 the first year the rads, tires, bars, sheet metal as you crash it every other week learning to drive lol
If you want to become a millionaire racing, start as a billionaire.
Yeah, and of course, the trailer, truck, tire after tire, plenty more can add up to more than the literal car.
Thank You for such amazing details in all your videos!! I’m a big FAN of yours!! I want to Race so bad but I can’t because I’m so busy, I grew up watching my Uncle race in the Watsonville CA, Fairgrounds as a kid and he kicked ASS racing especially watching him race the figure 8 lol 😂 he WON cash. He is the best engine builder in Califorina and is a legend! Seeing your videos brings back great memories! God Bless you for sharing your experience & if you ever come to Las Vegas I got you!
Build up a reputation before is my personal advice. I started my first season with 6+ sponsors
What do you mean exactly by build up a reputation? I am looking to get into the sport, but don't really know any other way than to just front the money.
@@Faltar06 Get you name and car known around the track...a good reputation as a driver, its pretty self explanatory, sponsors wanna have their name associated with popular drivers, your a mobile billboard around the race scene lol
Hey, great job detailing the actual costs and options !! Thank you for taking the time to do that and post it. My costs are right in line with what you have said, but I am unsponsored, difficult to do as a hobby and be a serious up front contender... I can drive it but my son is the real racer of my machine.
THANK YOU! I’m 16 and my buddies and I are putting together a WISSOTA street stock. I e been trying to look on the internet for help, but you explained it really well. I watched the over video about starting as well. Again, very informative and helpful. Thank you
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Im a Old man that has always wanted to race going to give it a try
I'm 61.. thinking of trying it
I really enjoy your videos. Im at carolina every fri and i found myself pulling for ya. Keep up the good work and good clean driving youll be in victory lane b4 you know it
What awesome video you put together for us ThreeZero Racing. Lots of great INFO and I really enjoyed all the tips and price chart. Keep up the good work!!!
Our local tracks are trying g to make it more affordable in 3 of 5-6 classes by using the GM 602 Crate engines. Only difference in the divisions engine is Carb size. 2 or 4 barrel. But evn those limited in cfms.
Yes and 10,000 hours of labor lol. That is quite reasonable start up cost.
It's not as bad as people think it is. Just a lot of work. Doesn't get too bad money wise until you want to go to the front!
Yes one can race and be competitive but it takes a lot of elbow grease to do that, all the folks that are successful have that in common.
A thought. Since it’s been a while how much more expensive to have Leagon or Blackwell to do you heads and recommend a cam.
Back several years ago one of the folks I helped did that, got a local auto machine shop to do the machine work on the bottom end and had the heads reworked by one of the above. Saved a few bucks but the performance was improved. You may have done this if so my bad
Not sure. Haven't ever used them before.
Though you might have heard some numbers floating around.
James Dedmon we have used Blackwell for machine work on our current motor. We’re going to look at some options for next year. I built this one on a very limited budget; our heads are pretty much stock but the rest of it is decent stuff. Thanks for the advice and watching!👍
This is a beautiful, honest, in-full video... Thanks for the free information. Youre building the future of the sport with stuff like this
Thanks for taking the time. Great video
I can second this. My cavalier mini mod I paid $1000 roughly to install the roll cage. Gutting the car cost me about 2 weeks and it's a long process. The parts is where you're gonna go broke, the better the parts the more you're gonna spend like with any car. The wheels have to be exchanged too so it's about a couple hundred for Hoosier fit rims.
You can have a lot more motor than that for 5k, also you dont need racing fuel for a basically stock motor, you only need it until you start bumping up the compression ratio in the 11 to 1 or up neighborhood. Other that that you a ok. Best thing for someone that wants to race on a budget is to run a limited schedule, like once a month or 4 times a year, that alone will save you a ton....
The motor I originally started with in this video actually needed to be fixed at the machine shop so I threw that in on the price, also the class that I ran required us to run VP 110 or "track fuel' as they called so unfortunately it wasn't an option to run pump gas
How do you make a small fortune in racing...., start with a big one :)
Never heard of a racer say that he doesn't want too much power! Killing me with that one
I was curious but I didn't want to sound rude! Thanks for the video and congrats on last week!!
Cool running across this I live in rock hill
my dads friend from work is giving me his thunder stock it needs the engine rebuilt
btw my dad was a racer back in 1986 he used a Nova hobby stock class
Thinking of taking my son's Dodge Caliber and racing it at local dirt track. Not looking to be front runner...just have fun and the thrill. 61 too old to race?
Awesome thanks a lot Man! Keep the videos coming.
This is a great video. I’m a Legends racer in Gastonia looking to transition to Dirt in Thunder Bombers. I plan to watch all your videos. Maybe I’ll stop by and say hell, I plan to spend some time at ELS and Carolina this year.
Did u ever do it? Was just at Carolina speedway tonight.
@markhenry15 Nah, I built a Hickory car. I'm retired now and the little man drives Wing Karts at Millbridge Speedway. Funny thing is I've never been on Dirt. He's bever been on Asphalt. We might cya at Carolina Speedway Inna few years.
Biggest problem I found buying a used car is fitting into rules if the car isn't from your track.
Thanks. I appreciate this breakdown.
Looks like you're in Florida or Alabama. Where do you run? I used to run down south in both states but now I run in upstate NY at Lebanon Valley Speedway
Forgot neck brace headsock seat belts tubes for tires jack stands jack
I have a front wheel drive race car and I built it new and it 2as 1800$ and I won 7 features with it
People that build always forget how much money they spent throughout the process...it's always more than you think.
I should make one of these videos for a Racesaver Sprint Car!
You should! I would definitely watch it!
@@ThreeZeroRacing awesome! I'll get on it!
Built my first crate latemodel this year. I bought it "race ready". That term is widly mis-used in the dirt racing world. Lol
What sort of power does your car make in the $ 5,000 range?
You should add the payout for the field to this video.
Where I’m at a average front wheel drive cost $5,500-$6,000
How would someone start stock car racing I live close to the charlotte area and have a love for oval and roval racing
Wish shocks for us was that cheap I pay about 900 for a set of shocks but man the amount of big races for us is crazy
Building a car is always more expensive than what you think. Nobody truly remembers every nickel and dime they put into it. Driving around to pick up parts, nuts, bolts, rivets, welding supplies, long nights in the shop with coffee and fast food runs. Drill bits, fuel lines , buying tools you only use once for oddball jobs.
Buying a winning car turn key cash is always cheaper in the long run.
YOU DID A GREAT JOB .
I never had a Sponsor when I race and when my son races. I think with a sponsor I have watched with these drivers. Drivers do not seem to care about the car because there sponsor is going to pay for it. That's why I never had a sponsor, I just used my head racing. Without crashing or blowing the thing up. I made money that whey.
I totally agree never a front runner but they had more in the motor then I had in whole car
I have a virgin street stock that I have 12000 in
Quarter million, that’s a socket set from Snap On !!! Lol. ( on payments)
Where do you get your gear like your fire suit and helmet
I did a new build In 2023 and I'm still dumping money into it. I have over 30K into this car. But that is a complete new built, 90% of the components/parts are brand new.
What about when an ass-hat runs me/you into the wall on purpose? lol
then u need bail money
I raced asphalt street stocks in PA (Now looking to get into a asphalt Modified in the WV/VA area) I raced 10 inch Slicks and we would put 4 new tires on the car every 4-5 weeks, just wondering on the dirt how often you put new tires on the car or do you buy like 6 tires at the beginning of the season and the last all season. Good luck and keep digging.
Usually we can get around 3 to 4 weeks out of a set of rear tires if you take care of them. Depends on the track as well.
Any high horsepower class requires new rear tires every week or every other week if the track isnt real slick. I get 3 or 4 weeks out of a set in a crate late model. But I flip the rear tires constantly.
What is you home track? Would like to come watch you run
It's not a cheap hobby. But it's fun.
Thanks for that information
What are good websites to look for race cars
you just got to love it !!! unfortunately i love it
We may be broke Larry, but look at how much fun we have!!!
This is how we started
1 we got a 2,300 dollar pure stock
2 we fixed the oil issue
3 raced it
4 win
That's how my family started lol
BUT matniece is the most expensive part cause you wreck and have issues
Hello my name is Kyle from Australia what size V8 engine is it 5 liters or 5.7 Litres V8 or 6 liters V8 or 6.2 liters V8 engine
Can you use ball bearings on the axles?
Make sure you ask a knowledgeable person before buying anything especially used stuff. There's alot guys trying to sell absolute junk parts and cars to unsuspecting new comers to the sport.
Great advice!
And be realistic. If you really like sprint cars but only have 8 grand to work with realise you could buy a turd of a car and just putz around in the back or you could buy a street stock and actually have something decent and be able to race competitively and have fun.
How do you go about getting sponsored?
How do you make a raisingcar
Where do u get your gear
My was cheap and I win alot and it's well put together
That 3200 on the car is that the weight requirements for that class and thank you for your opinion on gloves very important listen up guys very important
Yes it is. With the options I chose for my class, that's what I have to weigh.
Very entertaining my man well played and just busting balls I'm going to assume that 200 of the 3200 is driver lol just goofing thanks for the channel love it
Sometimes you need lead to get that weight even which annoying as hell to put on.
Yep expensive.. just car with cage if you build engine, trans, rearend 10-17000. Love the videos great job!!
Thank you so much!
And there's some lucky people who can find good deals on Cars and parts. Me being one kinda so far we've put over $5,000 but almost $6,000 into and that should be just about it for it and that includes the price we bought the car $500 and the car was in shit condition four tires, springs, body, fuel cell and electric everything has been replaced or reused like the tires, fuel cell and the body which is being repainted.
Also this is for a Wissota Street Stock. Plus they don't require a fire extinguisher in your car yeaa. Plus that's just for one year.
Is it the same deal with the 4 cylinder? I was told you could find a 4 cyl for 500 to 2,000?
Not entirely sure for a 4 cylinder. Never messed with them
ThreeZero Racing ahh okay imma experiment then lol. Don’t have a trailer so hope they’re street legal I live in rural VA so it might slide
I drove my cavalier enduro racecar to the race track with plates and lights. Got the the track, pulled my headlights and tail lights and raced. Prolly not the best thing to do but I got to run a real dirt track enduro race. Just make sure you have a way to get home if you wreck your car, and a way to get the car home.
Adam Freiburger that’s the only thing I need a trailer
Where are u located?
About 30 minutes south of Charlotte NC. In SC.
Holy shit 5k on a stock rated engine. Had to check but you can get a new LS for $1000
What I didn't mention is the 5k includes major machine work for a race engine. Plus all brand new parts all the way through that were considered "lower end" for our division
You still racing ?
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So it’s a street stock correct ? Or no
It's pretty much a street stock other than the firewall being sheet metal. Motor is a little more upgraded than a factory engine but not much more. When I refer to street stocks, I'm talking about a class that runs around here that is pretty much a super stock class but we call it "Street Stocks"
Looks similar to what we call Pure Stock here in our area.
$5k? For a stock engine? Sounds odd. Maybe I missed something but, I know a 604 crate engine is only $3k.
Will you please explain why so much for a "stock" engine? Love your vids, hope to visit your local track in 2019.
Do they run modifides there as well?
604 crate is about 6000.00. Also our price includes machine work and everything else. An upper end race engine around here for my class is around 14,000.00
I think I failed to mention that the engine prices include all the machining that it takes to make these things race ready.
A 604 is about 6,000 a 602 is 3200
How crank and bare heads maybe
Money 💰 lite!
Cool
What is the age limit for this car?
Well from what I know they will let 13 year olds who have driven go-carts to race B-mods with both parents permissions, for Street Stock I assume it's the same though I'm sixteen and start this year in a Street Stock then it's up to a Super. Also this is with Wissota rules im talking so I'm not sure how much the difference is down there.
Good job- you covered it..
I can see why marriages are strained- financially
Bob Smyth don’t get married simple lol
Lost my first wife to racing. Thank full everyday
lol I wish my SLM was this cheap.
Yeah you're in a whole different ball game haha
@@ThreeZeroRacing yup and I'm only a back filler. about 35k per car and 1700 win purse at best if you race six weeks in a row on weekly events. Street stocks was more bang for the buck.
If you intend to go fast and win your looking at 75-100k
do you have to pay taxes when you win a race from the "win money"
Some tracks make you fill out a tax form if you received over "X" amount of money with them throughout the year. When I racde Carolina Speedway they would send me a form to send to my tax people stating I earned "X" amount at their track and that I needed to pay taxes on it
your real start up cost is the price of a truck trailer and ready to go race car
BUY A CLASSIC CAR AND DRIVE / ENJOY IT............VALUE GOES UP, SELL GET ALL PLUS OF YOUR MONEY BACK.
Join the racing charity and race for well below FREE payback! Free would be a major improvement! Stop wondering why racing is dead people!
$5K to put a stock engine together isn't that great of a price lol for $5k you could've had a fairly decent semi mild built engine with plenty nice upgrades especially if its a sbc but pretty much the same for any carbed v8 engine
a big question is do you want to be upfront ?if so start pulling out your wallet , i run a midwest mod
NeSmith street stock! Yup!!!
5k for a stock engine? They bent you over good.
That's a lot of money and man hours for 15 minutes of actual race time.....
This is why you don’t get married✊🤑✊
Just hide the receipts...
racing is just as bad as any drug addiction, money-wise!
Lol. Your racing in the cheap buddy. It costs me 1400.00 every sat night just to run my sprint car and that’s if nothing goes wrong with regular expenses tires food fuel pit passes etc. In all I spend an average of $90,000.00 a season. And we’re considered a low budget team.
Pedr Hiltbrand do u run with world of outlaws ? Or a touring division
Yikes I spend about 200 a race weekend
Well if anybody has to ask how much a car costs. Which means they can't afford a race car and can't afford to racing in the first
place.
That just goes to prove that you cant buy wins in raceing.
What do you mean by that?