Amanda has pictures with her dog on her phone because he is physically with her. On the other hand, you cannot blame Kyle that he works for their future.
I find the comments about no pics of him from Kyle very sad. My married kid recently said to me that most of their photos are of their wife and animals because they are all the loves of their life. They’ve been married longer than those on the show.
Watching this season you can see Lindsey didn’t want Carl she wanted to be married and Carl was willing last summer but this summer he seen how it would be for the rest of his life and said I can’t do this. I think that is very smart!
Unpopular opinion but it takes two people to argue and fight...to put it all on Kyle isn't Fair. Yes, he is a man child, makes stupid decisions, speaks out of turn, the list goes on BUT she knew about all of this well before she married him. Don't ignore red flags just because you love the person and you want to get married. Also, because he has so many flaws, his complaints about Amanda go unnoticed and aren't being acknowleged..not just by Amanda but the others as well.
Agree @Preah3. But I also find it offensive to call Kyle a man baby. He's a self made entrepreneur and I actually find him super endearing with the ladies od SH. Even Lindsey 🤣. We could also call Amanda childish imo. She irritates me to no end trying to control her husband. Take it or leave it Amanda, this is the exact person you married. Sorry, I get smsh with women deciding to emasculate their men, then wonder why they cheat. Sheesh 😮💨
I feel like everyone is being insensitive to Kyle and it’s not cool if the genders were reversed everyone would be understanding. Is Kyle perfect ? Absolutely not but he’s still worthy of empathy.
I agree if the roles were reversed and Kyle didn’t have any pictures of Amanda she’d be upset Make it make sense and sometimes you should say less about oversharing about you’re relationship
These ridiculous hypotheticals just tell everyone you don’t actually have anything to contribute to the discussion. You’re saying nothing. If Amanda behaved the way Kyle did, no, nobody would be okay with it. And if Kyle didn’t have photos, because maybe that’s just the kind of person he is, like Amanda, nobody with a functioning brain - & the understanding that people are sentimental about *different things*, and that’s okay, would GAF. I have NEVER carried around pictures or had pictures out anywhere of someone I was seeing, no matter how long. It’s just not something that matters to me or is important, the actual time spent together is. Not all people are weirdly hyper-focused on stupid things like that, that don’t actually -or at least SHOULDN’T- affect your relationship. Y’all are the ones that need to make sense.😳 Do as Kyle needs to: gain some significant emotional maturity. This jerk has nonstop been complaining about Amanda being “lazy” because she only wants to do the job she was actually hired to do & is getting paid for (if she even fully is), the job he pressured her to leave the job she actually loved for, the job she’s been killing it at, and is the entire reason WHY the company is even as successful as it is, and even took off in the first place. He has not given her any real credit for doing EACH of the individual product designs, and all of the merchandising, and marketing. Just because he refuses to even try to have a work-life balance doesn’t mean he gets to not hire the appropriate staff and try to force Amanda to do work that she shouldn’t be doing, and not let her have the boundaries that you absolutely have to establish if you’re going to run your own company as a family and actually survive it intact. What she’s doing is healthy and appropriate. All Kyle has done has lie about literally everything he told her was going to happen within their relationship, their marriage, and regarding their future family, etc., AFTER she left her job and helped him develop the brand into a success, largely due to her bright, eye-catching designs and her marketing strategies. She’s pushing back, as she absolutely should. She needs to know if he’s going to keep flaking and being a perpetual fratboy, or if he is actually going to step up. He’s been rapidly regressing to his former behavior over the past year, and that’s not what he was showing her before they got married, up through last summer. He actually seemed like he was making better choices and actually spending quality time with her, making an effort, consciously monitoring his alcohol intake. You can’t just decide 2 years later that you’d rather live the fratboy lifestyle again whenever you want, and then get frustrated when you now can’t keep up with YOUR OWN WORK & want to dump it on your wife, and then try to blame her for not wanting that. If you do, then be a man and admit that you are the problem, and that you made a commitment you weren’t actually willing to see through, stop lying, be honest with Amanda, and let her find a grown adult.
@@Free420Love Umm why are you ranting over strangers ? 🤣 two things could be true at once. In this specific case they are being dismissive towards his feelings? Yes. Is he a man child who Amanda should have never married who also dismissive of her feelings? Also Yes. 🙄
Lindsay throwing him under the bus before they’re even married and convinced she’s going to marry this man but kinda digging at him behind his back is mean. I get if you’re just chatting w your close friends but it felt a little I dunno mean and trying to make Carl look bad.
L, she’s a cruel one. She’s always been that way. Why would C even entertain the idea of spending the rest of his life with her? They lived in such delusion for years.
Chatting with your friends knowing the cameras are there and millions will hear all of your criticisms. How in the world can she say she was blindsided? She seems to hate the guy.
@@lyons11siren I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Now I'm getting the icks. Those lists were ridiculous. No wonder they haven't found anyone yet. Ladies, grow up. Kyle and Amanda, you are both rude and selfish toward each other. Decide if you're willing to compromise because you love each other or get a divorce before you waste any more years of your life.
but they are so funny and some legit i never defined but let’s be real probably ick us all out. it’s just funny cause obv they still date and many of those guys ofc will have some of these they overlook thts why you can’t take it so seriously
I wonder how much they were talking about their future before they got married. If they were on the same page and suddenly something has changed then there is a problem.
@@PatK38they talked about it CONSTANTLY and Amanda was *always* very, VERY clear about not only wanting, but NEEDING, to leave the city and get established in a real house, with a real yard *BEFORE* she ever got pregnant. She wants to make a real home before they start having kids, instead of suddenly having to try and make all those huge, incredibly stressful and expensive life moves & changes all at the same time. And, yes, he absolutely told her that’s what he wanted to. This is what happened before & after the marriage, in a nutshell. Dude made a TON of promises to her in order to get her to leave her design job that she loved & was actually passionate about, she did leave, she made the launch of the company extremely successful explicitly due to her design, merchandising, and marketing skills and strategies, and now he’s done nothing but keep pressuring her to do more & more work OUTSIDE of what her actual job is, and she doesn’t want to, that wasn’t what they agreed to, and now he’s punishing her for choosing to keep a healthy work-life balance by reneging all of the plans they had for the future, and trying to pretend that it’s because they’re (AKA *she*, because Kyle has no self-awareness) having communication issues…AKA arguing that is only happening because he keeps nonstop trying to pressure her to do work that he should’ve hired multiple staff members long ago for, keeps calling her lazy because she doesn’t want to take on jobs that aren’t her responsibility, and he keeps talking shit about her to *everyone in the house*, but it’s all projections on what HE is actually doing to their relationship. Running a company as a family is hard work for a number of reasons, Amanda repeatedly brought up the issues she was worried about regarding all that & he dismissed them all & wouldn’t really hear her out, he convinced her to leave her job & join his…she helped make it very successful, and instead of hiring appropriate staff as they have continued to rapidly grow and expand their product portfolio, he just weirdly expected her to start killing herself and taking on any & all extra work that he couldn’t or didn’t want to handle himself or hand over to partners. Amanda is placing healthy work-life boundaries, something Kyle has consistently failed to do, and why Amanda complains all the time about Kyle never spending any actual quality time with her…but now he expects her to act the same way. Again, that’s not her job, that wasn’t their agreement, and he’s trying to take advantage of her in doing this, but make her feel guilty by calling her lazy to all of their friends so she’ll just do it. He & Loverboy owe her a lot, and it’s disgusting to see that he’s never really acknowledged how important she’s been to their success previously, so trying to call her lazy now, because HE is too lazy to hire and distribute work properly amongst his other employees is just gross.
Amanda is literally miserable .... all the time. She looks,sounds, acts like she hates Kyle. Girl - get a divorce if he's not your cup of tea rather than putting him down every chance you get. It's so cringe 😊
I just realized I don't have pictures of my husband on my phone unless he sent them. Yet, I'm obsessed with my husband. Also,Amanda, how you react to Kyle is insane. Abusive, even. Address the issue with a professional. Also, if a man is telling you he's lonely. Listen to him.
Watching Amanda speak to Kyle with such contempt....is so heartbreaking. he is right to think she hates him. he needs to leave her. she's abusive to him
I think there is a major lack of communication with the men and women…not boys and girls they are adults and in their late 30’s. I believe both sides bring incredibly valid points on their own feelings but there seems to be no instance where they address real issues. They mention Andrea is emotional but I think that is fruitful attribute for a relationship. I think it boils down to wether they are discussing really what they each desire and wether they are compatible longterm ? I truly hope they can figure it out because they have a foundation that can definitely be salvaged. All the best!
They all literally say the right thing a but never to the person they need to talk to. It is easier to be real to someone else, instead of the person your in conflict w, but something has got to give.
Kyle should be able to enjoy his summer weekends with friends and a lively environment, Amanda simply isn’t that which is fine, but it’s not for Kyle…you can be who you want, all is good but it’s not for everyone…They’re just too opposite and established differently at this point. It happens, life happens…
Good luck to Amanda. She’s running the clock on her fertility and Kyle is going to leave her and she’s going to act completely blindsided. They’re both unhappy and she doesn’t even seem to realize it. At least her does.
“Running the clock”… it’s 2024 and she has money. Thanks to technology and increased life expectancy, she can have a child whenever she wants. We don’t drop dead at 50 anymore 😂
Listening to all of the icks of the ladies makes me cringe. It’s annoying listening to them whine about the small things. Life is too short and quality men are few and far between imo
Amanda, you’re always…. MAD…. Life is too short, either get divorced or get on board! Kyle has done such a great job being faithful and a provider but if he wants kids and you don’t…. Don’t waste his life away! If you don’t want to work for Kyle, then get a job! A real one.
Kyle asked her to quit her job because needed her at Loverboy and doesn’t want her to leave. I don’t know many partnerships that can work and live together - I get why Amanda needs a moment to herself coz Kyle is super needy.
Kyles GUT telling him NOT to have kids with Amanda is right. She is constantly criticizing him, whining ABOUT him, nagging him, disrespecting him......you dont want to be married to, or have kids with someone who treats you like that. PERIOD
Agreed, Kyle is a social butterfly and Amanda is a bore let the man live he gets stressed enough with his job. And “growing up” doesn’t mean you have to be miserable.
Folks it's time for him to grow up, they had premarital ideas. Not all women want to accept a man that future fakes and wants to live in a college dorm. Come on she's helped grow his business.... Please don't take up marital counseling
@@LaDonnaShielded-kc7zm Future Fakes? He works his behind off to run a successful company.....a company that *SHE* reaps the benefits of. She lives a pretty nice life thanks to that hard work. He has asked her for help.....which she gave.....somewhat. She *WANTS* to reap the benefits while sitting at home doing nothing, hence why she wants a kid. So she has an excuse not to work. He *BEGS HER* for more help *ALL THE TIME* She ignores him or belittles him. He goes out *5 TIMES A YEAR* To let off steam after working so hard, and he gets ripped to shreds for even just doing that. She *CHOSE* to "forgive him". She *CHOSE* to marry him.....yet she has spent everyday since then *PUNISHING* him. *ONE NIGHT* ...... *ONE* mistake....has cost them *SO MANY* more happy nights because of *HER* Yes cheating is *VERY* hard to get past.....but I truely don't think Kyle makes it *THAT* hard. He *DOESN'T* ask for much and the way she treats him is *BEYOND* not ok. She treats her *DOGS* 1000 times better than her *ACTUAL* husband. *NOT OK*
@@LaDonnaShielded-kc7zmFuture Fakes? He works his behind off to run a successful company.....a company that *SHE* reaps the benefits of. She lives a pretty nice life thanks to that hard work. He has asked her for help.....which she gave.....somewhat. She *WANTS* to reap the benefits while sitting at home doing nothing, hence why she wants a kid. So she has an excuse not to work. He *BEGS HER* for more help *ALL THE TIME* She ignores him or belittles him. He goes out *5 TIMES A YEAR* To let off steam after working so hard, and he gets ripped to shreds for even just doing that. She *CHOSE* to "forgive him". She *CHOSE* to marry him.....yet she has spent everyday since then *PUNISHING* him. *ONE NIGHT* ...... *ONE* mistake....has cost them *SO MANY* more happy nights because of *HER* Yes cheating is *VERY* hard to get past.....but I truely don't think Kyle makes it *THAT* hard. He *DOESN'T* ask for much and the way she treats him is *BEYOND* not ok. She treats her *DOGS* 1000 times better than her *ACTUAL* husband. *NOT OK*
I feel bad for Kyle he is a social butterfly and the only time he gets to really have fun and be himself is when he is out! Let the guy have fun he gets stressed out as it is with his work!
@@BuhleMvels yes! She is always whining and complaining since she came on the show and she wanted fame but still chose to ignore what he’s already even doing. Crying and staying is a choice And her family threatening him if he divorces her to pay them back when they raised a child who won’t grow up is baffling. Amanda you can get YOUR OWN BAG but she won’t. She barely can’t pay a bill but wants kids?
Amanda always seems mad and I think she is financially comfortable and knows that financially she won’t be as successful without Kyle. She should just get a divorce if she is always that unhappy.
Can Bravo producers give Danielle the boot already. Love Ciara, Paige, Kyle, and Amanda. Lindsay is working overtime to prove some points, but we already know she is full of it. We don't believe Lindsay.
I'm so in luv with my hubby 4yrs in I nvr imagend this luv he shows n gives had to rlly let him in now I'm nvr lettn go that's what ppl shud feel in a relationship ❤ luv luv luv
As a mom of a son, I’m disappointed how these girls treat their boyfriends and husband. They are beautiful and great people but just tragic the way they navigate in relationships….angry and critical.
hmmm...I used to really enjoy Paige, but man, this season, something is off...it's like she's gotten too arrogant, too big for her britches - she is sharp with her words, sharp with her criticism, and sharp with her language...not liking this new Paige at all really. I really have a lot of respect for Craig, and I don't see Paige treating him in a respectful manner, nor Kyle for that matter. There is a balance between honestly and being just rude and mean, and I feel like Paige this season has crossed over to just being mean. She's like a mean girl this year, and that's not cool for me.
Just because you are married and want to have kids doesn’t mean you should change yourself completely. It’s unrealistic. That’s what freaks most of these guys out. The changes and expectations are too big. They would rather run or procrastinate. There must be some balance created.
Lindsay never takes accountability she is very dismissive of Carl even when he's trying to be sexual with her for instance at that non alcohol bar he flirtously said they should go to the bathroom and she shut him down then also while at dinner when he jokingly barked and she made that comment like she was turned off it's just frustrating to hear her speak and constantly put blame on others when if I was Carl I probably wouldn't be able to get hard either after all their issues
Exactly so sickening. Like can they not see him making comments about her when he talks with the guys. She clearly said she only goes there when he talks about her drinking
I find one person in the family takes all the pictures and you depend on them to do that. Back in the time of no cell phones that person was rarely in the family photos.
Kyles wife is under so much stress from him shes losing weight like crazy shes looking frail and i like her on her what does he put her threw like must be alot to be with a narcissistic kinda person
I don't watch this show so I'm thinking this has got to be satire. If not, how can you avoid the fact that if half of these things were said by the male cast. There will be an outrage of insensitivity and entitlement. Yikes😕
I really do like and Carl and Lindsey Both of them have so much to bring to the table for healthy and successful relationships with many people However it doesn’t seem works for them in their relationship and it’s kind of sad but also okay Carl I have to say changed a lot and it’s amazing to see that growth.. I give credit to Lindsey because she did her own growth as well trying to be amazing partner So, good for both of them and I hope in their separate lives now they will find what they looking and expecting from their future romantic relationships 🙏🏼❤️
Either Kyle and Amanda are using their marital issues for a storyline, or they need to go their separate ways. Their relationship is just as toxic as Carl and Lindsay’s. I believe ongoing infidelity is the real issue, and it has hardened Amanda. He doesn’t want the suburban life because it will make it more difficult for him to cheat. Amanda is beautiful, talented, and still young; she should not feel beholden to a middle aged man who is unwilling to change.
Amanda is being defensive, Kyle has a feeling about the photos and wants to feel important. She should validate him or if she can't leave him. Like they are so sad together...
I don't know any married woman who would be okay with their husbands coming home at 4am even once a month. Special occasion (friends bday, stag, work party) sure, but once a month on a random weekday?? No ma'am that's not ok.
Kyle has seen his relationship, every birthday, his proposal to move in together, and proposal for marriage and re-proposal .. and practice AND real weddings.. all play out on TV.. they have pics all around their apartment of them together -- shes probably SICK to death of seeing them :). Im not an Amanda fan or Kyle hater -- but Kyle really needs to stop being so needy of attention:).
Paige, leave kyle alone also it isn't normal for her not to have pictures of your husband. I have 3 daughter's and they all have pictures of their husband and theirselves on their phone's. I think you need to move on.
Kyle seems very mildly narcissistic and alcoholic (I say that in a non-clinical way). Hope he can grow a little. Amanda seems just really balanced, just a bit introverted.
I’m a 64 year old woman listening to these young women and thinking they are ridiculous. We know Carl and Lindsey are done. Amanda and Kyle both need a lot of therapy but I don’t have high hopes for them. The fact that Paige doesn’t want to be a 30 minute plane ride away from her Mom when Craig’s business is in Charleston I don’t see this happening. She can take pictures of herself in clothes anywhere. Ciara I don’t know all these women their expectations are unrealistic. I truly believe that none of them should marry or move in with anyone. Just date someone and have their own space. I don’t know that’s just what I’m thinking
Yes. I do think Kyle should pay her and RUN 🤣BECAUSE.. SHE'S GOING TO "OOPS" BECAUSE ITS OBVIOUS HE HAS GROWN BALLS AND DICTATORS DO NOT LIKE WHEN their.. Uh, captives grow balls!! REALLY. AMANDA IS IN AN OWNERSHIP... AND THATS NO GOOD FOR KIDS TO SEE. IT NEVER WORKS.. LONG TERM.... REALLY. 😳
I like her, but she seems to be putting on. She also hasn’t done herself any favors by making her whole personality being Lindsay’s handler and yes woman.
He’s not asking her to be out in public and then snap a photo of him because of what he’s wearing he’s talking about what we all do when we are in love with someone which is take a photo of them when they’re sleeping because we think they look cute or sneaking one of them while they’re playing with the dog and we think it looks cute like I have so many of my husband in my phone like that and the fact that she has zero is so telling and I feel so bad for him. Just saying.
Exactly! I have so many candid pics of my husband. Sometimes he gets happily annoyed because he'll walk by without a shirt on, and I make him stop so I can take a pic. Men have emotional needs also. It's no wonder none of these people are in healthy relationships. They only care about themselves
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It’s in its out … it’s constant 😭😭😭
Paige! Umbrellas are for all 😂😂 im dead at her
She’s the worst, it’s like, babe, your man’s the prince of pillows and he probably has an umbrella to coordinate with each of his coats.
@@KillerKatsFromOutterSpace relax lol
Why is it not OK for a man to use an umbrella in the pouring rain? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. But then again, so is Paige.
Her boyfriend Craig used an umbrella for the both of them on Souther Charm last season! 😂😂😂
Amanda has pictures with her dog on her phone because he is physically with her. On the other hand, you cannot blame Kyle that he works for their future.
I love how Gabby is able to rein Lindsay in. Honestly, she needs more friends like Gabby ❤
I find the comments about no pics of him from Kyle very sad. My married kid recently said to me that most of their photos are of their wife and animals because they are all the loves of their life. They’ve been married longer than those on the show.
Watching this season you can see Lindsey didn’t want Carl she wanted to be married and Carl was willing last summer but this summer he seen how it would be for the rest of his life and said I can’t do this. I think that is very smart!
Exactly this!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
She will sabotage every relationship until she takes accountability for her NARC behaviour. You have to be beautiful on the inside too BABE.
Unpopular opinion but it takes two people to argue and fight...to put it all on Kyle isn't Fair. Yes, he is a man child, makes stupid decisions, speaks out of turn, the list goes on BUT she knew about all of this well before she married him. Don't ignore red flags just because you love the person and you want to get married. Also, because he has so many flaws, his complaints about Amanda go unnoticed and aren't being acknowleged..not just by Amanda but the others as well.
Agree @Preah3. But I also find it offensive to call Kyle a man baby. He's a self made entrepreneur and I actually find him super endearing with the ladies od SH. Even Lindsey 🤣. We could also call Amanda childish imo. She irritates me to no end trying to control her husband. Take it or leave it Amanda, this is the exact person you married. Sorry, I get smsh with women deciding to emasculate their men, then wonder why they cheat. Sheesh 😮💨
Agreed they both are contributing to the issue. Kyle acts like a teenager and Amanda can be cold and even mean sometimes
I feel like everyone is being insensitive to Kyle and it’s not cool if the genders were reversed everyone would be understanding. Is Kyle perfect ? Absolutely not but he’s still worthy of empathy.
I agree if the roles were reversed and Kyle didn’t have any pictures of Amanda she’d be upset
Make it make sense and sometimes you should say less about oversharing about you’re relationship
@@QueenGemini420 exactly
These ridiculous hypotheticals just tell everyone you don’t actually have anything to contribute to the discussion. You’re saying nothing.
If Amanda behaved the way Kyle did, no, nobody would be okay with it.
And if Kyle didn’t have photos, because maybe that’s just the kind of person he is, like Amanda, nobody with a functioning brain - & the understanding that people are sentimental about *different things*, and that’s okay, would GAF.
I have NEVER carried around pictures or had pictures out anywhere of someone I was seeing, no matter how long. It’s just not something that matters to me or is important, the actual time spent together is.
Not all people are weirdly hyper-focused on stupid things like that, that don’t actually -or at least SHOULDN’T- affect your relationship.
Y’all are the ones that need to make sense.😳
Do as Kyle needs to: gain some significant emotional maturity.
This jerk has nonstop been complaining about Amanda being “lazy” because she only wants to do the job she was actually hired to do & is getting paid for (if she even fully is), the job he pressured her to leave the job she actually loved for, the job she’s been killing it at, and is the entire reason WHY the company is even as successful as it is, and even took off in the first place. He has not given her any real credit for doing EACH of the individual product designs, and all of the merchandising, and marketing.
Just because he refuses to even try to have a work-life balance doesn’t mean he gets to not hire the appropriate staff and try to force Amanda to do work that she shouldn’t be doing, and not let her have the boundaries that you absolutely have to establish if you’re going to run your own company as a family and actually survive it intact.
What she’s doing is healthy and appropriate.
All Kyle has done has lie about literally everything he told her was going to happen within their relationship, their marriage, and regarding their future family, etc., AFTER she left her job and helped him develop the brand into a success, largely due to her bright, eye-catching designs and her marketing strategies.
She’s pushing back, as she absolutely should. She needs to know if he’s going to keep flaking and being a perpetual fratboy, or if he is actually going to step up.
He’s been rapidly regressing to his former behavior over the past year, and that’s not what he was showing her before they got married, up through last summer.
He actually seemed like he was making better choices and actually spending quality time with her, making an effort, consciously monitoring his alcohol intake.
You can’t just decide 2 years later that you’d rather live the fratboy lifestyle again whenever you want, and then get frustrated when you now can’t keep up with YOUR OWN WORK & want to dump it on your wife, and then try to blame her for not wanting that.
If you do, then be a man and admit that you are the problem, and that you made a commitment you weren’t actually willing to see through, stop lying, be honest with Amanda, and let her find a grown adult.
@@Free420Love Umm why are you ranting over strangers ? 🤣 two things could be true at once. In this specific case they are being dismissive towards his feelings? Yes. Is he a man child who Amanda should have never married who also dismissive of her feelings? Also Yes. 🙄
It’s not about the photos, it’s about Kyle feeling like she’s ashamed of him
I still cannot wait for the reunion tbh
Lindsay throwing him under the bus before they’re even married and convinced she’s going to marry this man but kinda digging at him behind his back is mean. I get if you’re just chatting w your close friends but it felt a little I dunno mean and trying to make Carl look bad.
L, she’s a cruel one. She’s always been that way. Why would C even entertain the idea of spending the rest of his life with her? They lived in such delusion for years.
Chatting with your friends knowing the cameras are there and millions will hear all of your criticisms. How in the world can she say she was blindsided? She seems to hate the guy.
@@lyons11siren I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.
Gabbys list is hilarious
lol “gross luggage” is my personal favorite
3 in one shampoo, body wash n one bedsheet... 😅 so true
if he litters , if he wears hats , if he thinks he funny , if they’re cheap or smelly lol , if he likes cats , if he throws up 😩🤣🤣🤣😂😂 agreed
If Kyle and Amanda were separated they’d both be so much happier
I just love Ciara and Paige. They can do no wrong!
Ciara and Paige: if he just lives 😂
I ❤them
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Now I'm getting the icks. Those lists were ridiculous. No wonder they haven't found anyone yet. Ladies, grow up. Kyle and Amanda, you are both rude and selfish toward each other. Decide if you're willing to compromise because you love each other or get a divorce before you waste any more years of your life.
They're playing.
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I don't want to be that girl but they sure have a long list of icks for people who aren't married. 😂😂
Right same thing I was thinking
but they are so funny and some legit i never defined but let’s be real probably ick us all out. it’s just funny cause obv they still date and many of those guys ofc will have some of these they overlook thts why you can’t take it so seriously
you'll marry gabby's icks 😂😂 'one man's trash is another man's...'
Guys crossing their legs when they’re sitting is one of my few icks. So.. I actually agree with Paige on that one.
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We are tired of Amanda always thinking she’s right and not being nice to Kyle
I totally agree and I hate how she uses the silent treatment
I wonder how much they were talking about their future before they got married. If they were on the same page and suddenly something has changed then there is a problem.
@@PatK38they talked about it CONSTANTLY and Amanda was *always* very, VERY clear about not only wanting, but NEEDING, to leave the city and get established in a real house, with a real yard *BEFORE* she ever got pregnant. She wants to make a real home before they start having kids, instead of suddenly having to try and make all those huge, incredibly stressful and expensive life moves & changes all at the same time. And, yes, he absolutely told her that’s what he wanted to.
This is what happened before & after the marriage, in a nutshell.
Dude made a TON of promises to her in order to get her to leave her design job that she loved & was actually passionate about, she did leave, she made the launch of the company extremely successful explicitly due to her design, merchandising, and marketing skills and strategies, and now he’s done nothing but keep pressuring her to do more & more work OUTSIDE of what her actual job is, and she doesn’t want to, that wasn’t what they agreed to, and now he’s punishing her for choosing to keep a healthy work-life balance by reneging all of the plans they had for the future, and trying to pretend that it’s because they’re (AKA *she*, because Kyle has no self-awareness) having communication issues…AKA arguing that is only happening because he keeps nonstop trying to pressure her to do work that he should’ve hired multiple staff members long ago for, keeps calling her lazy because she doesn’t want to take on jobs that aren’t her responsibility, and he keeps talking shit about her to *everyone in the house*, but it’s all projections on what HE is actually doing to their relationship.
Running a company as a family is hard work for a number of reasons, Amanda repeatedly brought up the issues she was worried about regarding all that & he dismissed them all & wouldn’t really hear her out, he convinced her to leave her job & join his…she helped make it very successful, and instead of hiring appropriate staff as they have continued to rapidly grow and expand their product portfolio, he just weirdly expected her to start killing herself and taking on any & all extra work that he couldn’t or didn’t want to handle himself or hand over to partners. Amanda is placing healthy work-life boundaries, something Kyle has consistently failed to do, and why Amanda complains all the time about Kyle never spending any actual quality time with her…but now he expects her to act the same way.
Again, that’s not her job, that wasn’t their agreement, and he’s trying to take advantage of her in doing this, but make her feel guilty by calling her lazy to all of their friends so she’ll just do it.
He & Loverboy owe her a lot, and it’s disgusting to see that he’s never really acknowledged how important she’s been to their success previously, so trying to call her lazy now, because HE is too lazy to hire and distribute work properly amongst his other employees is just gross.
I don’t think they did hey or if so it wasn’t througholy
These ladies take no prisoners lol! They’re hardcore! 😂😂
I dont get Amanda chastising Kyle for coming home late. Its ok to be upset but she drags it out
I AGREE WITH KYLE, AND CARL. IF YOU HAVE NOOOO PICK OF YOUR SPECIAL PERSON, THEN SOMETHING WRONG! PERIOD!
i agree with you
"intimacy wrapped around conflict and tension" is quite poetic
Amanda is literally miserable .... all the time. She looks,sounds, acts like she hates Kyle. Girl - get a divorce if he's not your cup of tea rather than putting him down every chance you get. It's so cringe 😊
I love going out in the rain with my umbrella
I just realized I don't have pictures of my husband on my phone unless he sent them. Yet, I'm obsessed with my husband. Also,Amanda, how you react to Kyle is insane. Abusive, even. Address the issue with a professional. Also, if a man is telling you he's lonely. Listen to him.
Hearing them all talk, it's no wonder these people are not in healthy relationships
Ah I feel bad for Kyle - he’s looking for some attention and admiration from his wife… (for the record, I also really like Amanda!)
Watching Amanda speak to Kyle with such contempt....is so heartbreaking. he is right to think she hates him. he needs to leave her. she's abusive to him
I think there is a major lack of communication with the men and women…not boys and girls they are adults and in their late 30’s. I believe both sides bring incredibly valid points on their own feelings but there seems to be no instance where they address real issues. They mention Andrea is emotional but I think that is fruitful attribute for a relationship. I think it boils down to wether they are discussing really what they each desire and wether they are compatible longterm ? I truly hope they can figure it out because they have a foundation that can definitely be salvaged. All the best!
They all literally say the right thing a but never to the person they need to talk to. It is easier to be real to someone else, instead of the person your in conflict w, but something has got to give.
Kyle should be able to enjoy his summer weekends with friends and a lively environment, Amanda simply isn’t that which is fine, but it’s not for Kyle…you can be who you want, all is good but it’s not for everyone…They’re just too opposite and established differently at this point. It happens, life happens…
Good luck to Amanda. She’s running the clock on her fertility and Kyle is going to leave her and she’s going to act completely blindsided. They’re both unhappy and she doesn’t even seem to realize it. At least her does.
“Running the clock”… it’s 2024 and she has money. Thanks to technology and increased life expectancy, she can have a child whenever she wants. We don’t drop dead at 50 anymore 😂
Amanda is literally with him for money
And he knows it
If that was true, she wouldn't have put all HER savings into Loverboy to help him.. come on now lol
😂😂😂 this list was so funny yet realistic.. we so petty 🤣🤣😂😂😂
Listening to all of the icks of the ladies makes me cringe. It’s annoying listening to them whine about the small things. Life is too short and quality men are few and far between imo
Amanda, you’re always…. MAD…. Life is too short, either get divorced or get on board! Kyle has done such a great job being faithful and a provider but if he wants kids and you don’t…. Don’t waste his life away! If you don’t want to work for Kyle, then get a job! A real one.
"GREAT JOB BEING FAITHFUL" Kyle cheated 😂😂😂 So, not that great of job.
Kyle asked her to quit her job because needed her at Loverboy and doesn’t want her to leave. I don’t know many partnerships that can work and live together - I get why Amanda needs a moment to herself coz Kyle is super needy.
Also “a great job at being faithful”?! Let’s up our standards. Please.
@@Laur288 Lately
@@cathh3301 I meant he’s been staying faithful.
Would you desire a bully that accused you of doing drugs on TV? I
Okay I’m just gonna say it: Paige & Ciara = Best Duo Ever!!!!
Kyles GUT telling him NOT to have kids with Amanda is right. She is constantly criticizing him, whining ABOUT him, nagging him, disrespecting him......you dont want to be married to, or have kids with someone who treats you like that. PERIOD
She will take the kids frm him in a divorce.
Agreed, Kyle is a social butterfly and Amanda is a bore let the man live he gets stressed enough with his job. And “growing up” doesn’t mean you have to be miserable.
Folks it's time for him to grow up, they had premarital ideas. Not all women want to accept a man that future fakes and wants to live in a college dorm. Come on she's helped grow his business.... Please don't take up marital counseling
@@LaDonnaShielded-kc7zm Future Fakes? He works his behind off to run a successful company.....a company that *SHE* reaps the benefits of. She lives a pretty nice life thanks to that hard work. He has asked her for help.....which she gave.....somewhat. She *WANTS* to reap the benefits while sitting at home doing nothing, hence why she wants a kid. So she has an excuse not to work. He *BEGS HER* for more help *ALL THE TIME* She ignores him or belittles him. He goes out *5 TIMES A YEAR* To let off steam after working so hard, and he gets ripped to shreds for even just doing that.
She *CHOSE* to "forgive him". She *CHOSE* to marry him.....yet she has spent everyday since then *PUNISHING* him. *ONE NIGHT* ...... *ONE* mistake....has cost them *SO MANY* more happy nights because of *HER* Yes cheating is *VERY* hard to get past.....but I truely don't think Kyle makes it *THAT* hard. He *DOESN'T* ask for much and the way she treats him is *BEYOND* not ok. She treats her *DOGS* 1000 times better than her *ACTUAL* husband. *NOT OK*
@@LaDonnaShielded-kc7zmFuture Fakes? He works his behind off to run a successful company.....a company that *SHE* reaps the benefits of. She lives a pretty nice life thanks to that hard work. He has asked her for help.....which she gave.....somewhat. She *WANTS* to reap the benefits while sitting at home doing nothing, hence why she wants a kid. So she has an excuse not to work. He *BEGS HER* for more help *ALL THE TIME* She ignores him or belittles him. He goes out *5 TIMES A YEAR* To let off steam after working so hard, and he gets ripped to shreds for even just doing that.
She *CHOSE* to "forgive him". She *CHOSE* to marry him.....yet she has spent everyday since then *PUNISHING* him. *ONE NIGHT* ...... *ONE* mistake....has cost them *SO MANY* more happy nights because of *HER* Yes cheating is *VERY* hard to get past.....but I truely don't think Kyle makes it *THAT* hard. He *DOESN'T* ask for much and the way she treats him is *BEYOND* not ok. She treats her *DOGS* 1000 times better than her *ACTUAL* husband. *NOT OK*
I feel bad for Kyle he is a social butterfly and the only time he gets to really have fun and be himself is when he is out! Let the guy have fun he gets stressed out as it is with his work!
If i were kyle..... I'd get out NOW.....BEFORE KIDS....
Yea I think he knows kids won’t fix anything. I think Amanda thinks they will but she’ll still be miserable
Ick if you lack ambition but also a ick if you’re excited about something? Y’all are too much
I have no recent photos of my husband of almost 9 years…. I have pics of my son lol
I guess these women are perfect.
They're playing. Omg
Amanda is with Kyle bc she knew he’d be rich or famous for the show. She doesn’t like him
TRUTH 💸 💰
I don’t think she loves him. I think she loves the idea of life with him which is sad.
@@BuhleMvels yes! She is always whining and complaining since she came on the show and she wanted fame but still chose to ignore what he’s already even doing. Crying and staying is a choice
And her family threatening him if he divorces her to pay them back when they raised a child who won’t grow up is baffling. Amanda you can get YOUR OWN BAG but she won’t. She barely can’t pay a bill but wants kids?
Amanda always seems mad and I think she is financially comfortable and knows that financially she won’t be as successful without Kyle. She should just get a divorce if she is always that unhappy.
Omg. That list though. 😂
Can Bravo producers give Danielle the boot already. Love Ciara, Paige, Kyle, and Amanda. Lindsay is working overtime to prove some points, but we already know she is full of it. We don't believe Lindsay.
I'm so in luv with my hubby 4yrs in I nvr imagend this luv he shows n gives had to rlly let him in now I'm nvr lettn go that's what ppl shud feel in a relationship ❤ luv luv luv
As a mom of a son, I’m disappointed how these girls treat their boyfriends and husband. They are beautiful and great people but just tragic the way they navigate in relationships….angry and critical.
I have 3 sons and from what I see of women today... I don't even want them to get married
@@michellemitchell6865 It's way more likely your sons will treat women like trash than the other way around, look at the statistics hun
Are you all only talking about Lindsay and Amanda.
I’ll play the lottery the day Amanda is Not Maaad at Kyle 😁
hmmm...I used to really enjoy Paige, but man, this season, something is off...it's like she's gotten too arrogant, too big for her britches - she is sharp with her words, sharp with her criticism, and sharp with her language...not liking this new Paige at all really. I really have a lot of respect for Craig, and I don't see Paige treating him in a respectful manner, nor Kyle for that matter. There is a balance between honestly and being just rude and mean, and I feel like Paige this season has crossed over to just being mean. She's like a mean girl this year, and that's not cool for me.
She is more relaxed and showing her real personality. Love her, admire her. Love Craig too and both there qualities . Both so into each other. M
I agree. Not cool to laugh at people when they open up about their (totally valid) feelings. Very mean girl.
She's always been a mean girl and that's why I never liked her. They're just showing her out of bed this season, so she's even worse.
Same!! Lately I haven’t been liking her but love Gaby
Gabby's in love with Lindsay
Just because you are married and want to have kids doesn’t mean you should change yourself completely. It’s unrealistic. That’s what freaks most of these guys out. The changes and expectations are too big. They would rather run or procrastinate. There must be some balance created.
I can't take Lindsay for her word.
Lindsay never takes accountability she is very dismissive of Carl even when he's trying to be sexual with her for instance at that non alcohol bar he flirtously said they should go to the bathroom and she shut him down then also while at dinner when he jokingly barked and she made that comment like she was turned off it's just frustrating to hear her speak and constantly put blame on others when if I was Carl I probably wouldn't be able to get hard either after all their issues
Oh look it's the Everyone Bully and Gaslight Lindsay Show. Pass.
Exactly so sickening. Like can they not see him making comments about her when he talks with the guys. She clearly said she only goes there when he talks about her drinking
I find one person in the family takes all the pictures and you depend on them to do that. Back in the time of no cell phones that person was rarely in the family photos.
Amanda n Kyle should make more effort n quit bitching each other except this is their running storyline.. Be more loving n kind
Here’s my ICK list: Paige, Ciara, Amanda, Lindsay, and Gabby. GET OVER YOURSELVES.
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Carl was like ... Thanks for the warning🙈... Nah its just I think he's already decided at this point that he is not wanting to be her husband
Kyles wife is under so much stress from him shes losing weight like crazy shes looking frail and i like her on her what does he put her threw like must be alot to be with a narcissistic kinda person
I don't watch this show so I'm thinking this has got to be satire. If not, how can you avoid the fact that if half of these things were said by the male cast. There will be an outrage of insensitivity and entitlement. Yikes😕
Kyle and Amanda… are we sure they are still with us????
I really do like and Carl and Lindsey
Both of them have so much to bring to the table for healthy and successful relationships with many people
However it doesn’t seem works for them in their relationship and it’s kind of sad but also okay
Carl I have to say changed a lot and it’s amazing to see that growth.. I give credit to Lindsey because she did her own growth as well trying to be amazing partner
So, good for both of them and I hope in their separate lives now they will find what they looking and expecting from
their future romantic relationships 🙏🏼❤️
Every female on this cast is brutal, wtf
Tough cookies, impossible to please.
I thought Kyles mullet was a joke but were like 5 years in and omg it’s time to cut it.
Either Kyle and Amanda are using their marital issues for a storyline, or they need to go their separate ways. Their relationship is just as toxic as Carl and Lindsay’s. I believe ongoing infidelity is the real issue, and it has hardened Amanda. He doesn’t want the suburban life because it will make it more difficult for him to cheat. Amanda is beautiful, talented, and still young; she should not feel beholden to a middle aged man who is unwilling to change.
Amanda is being defensive, Kyle has a feeling about the photos and wants to feel important. She should validate him or if she can't leave him. Like they are so sad together...
I think Kyle and Amanda will divorce in the next couple of years.
so a woman who does astrological charts hates a man who does fantasy football? Just let me have fun Gabby lol
I don't know any married woman who would be okay with their husbands coming home at 4am even once a month. Special occasion (friends bday, stag, work party) sure, but once a month on a random weekday?? No ma'am that's not ok.
To be honest, i dont have photos of m family or pets on my phone. Its mainly things im selling
Kyle has seen his relationship, every birthday, his proposal to move in together, and proposal for marriage and re-proposal .. and practice AND real weddings.. all play out on TV.. they have pics all around their apartment of them together -- shes probably SICK to death of seeing them :). Im not an Amanda fan or Kyle hater -- but Kyle really needs to stop being so needy of attention:).
Lindsay wanted Carl to break up with her. She’s horrible and I’m not even a Carl fan. She’s the worst!!!
Paige, leave kyle alone also it isn't normal for her not to have pictures of your husband. I have 3 daughter's and they all have pictures of their husband and theirselves on their phone's. I think you need to move on.
Kyle seems very mildly narcissistic and alcoholic (I say that in a non-clinical way). Hope he can grow a little. Amanda seems just really balanced, just a bit introverted.
Im starting to think amanda and kyle will be next to split
Guaranteed carl is gonna come out 🌈🌈🌈
I think most of the men on this cast are fluid.
@@AquaGirl953 Carl actually had a thing with a guy in the past the spirit is now attached to him he opend the door to 🌈
Trust Christ, don't use His name to replace a cuss word.
Romans 10:13💕
Exodus 20:7
Sooooo Gabby is going to be single forever lol hopefully not but girl
I’m a 64 year old woman listening to these young women and thinking they are ridiculous. We know Carl and Lindsey are done. Amanda and Kyle both need a lot of therapy but I don’t have high hopes for them. The fact that Paige doesn’t want to be a 30 minute plane ride away from her Mom when Craig’s business is in Charleston I don’t see this happening. She can take pictures of herself in clothes anywhere. Ciara I don’t know all these women their expectations are unrealistic. I truly believe that none of them should marry or move in with anyone. Just date someone and have their own space. I don’t know that’s just what I’m thinking
I’m sorry I love Carl but I think he might sway the other wayyyyy
I don’t have many pics of my husband on my phone. Tones of my dog. Married 18 and three kids. Means nothing. These guys are so sensitive…that’s an ick
Yes. I do think Kyle should pay her and RUN 🤣BECAUSE.. SHE'S GOING TO "OOPS" BECAUSE ITS OBVIOUS HE HAS GROWN BALLS AND DICTATORS DO NOT LIKE WHEN their.. Uh, captives grow balls!! REALLY.
AMANDA IS IN AN OWNERSHIP... AND THATS NO GOOD FOR KIDS TO SEE. IT NEVER WORKS.. LONG TERM.... REALLY. 😳
Don't like Gabby's personality at all
I like her, but she seems to be putting on. She also hasn’t done herself any favors by making her whole personality being Lindsay’s handler and yes woman.
SUPRISED lindsay hasnt cought any diseases with all the Dudes shes been with..
Paige & Ciara literally has me dying with their ick list🤣🤣..”using an umbrella, ick umbrellas are for girls”🤣🤣🤣
Paige and Craiges relationship isn't the best.
He’s not asking her to be out in public and then snap a photo of him because of what he’s wearing he’s talking about what we all do when we are in love with someone which is take a photo of them when they’re sleeping because we think they look cute or sneaking one of them while they’re playing with the dog and we think it looks cute like I have so many of my husband in my phone like that and the fact that she has zero is so telling and I feel so bad for him. Just saying.
Exactly! I have so many candid pics of my husband. Sometimes he gets happily annoyed because he'll walk by without a shirt on, and I make him stop so I can take a pic. Men have emotional needs also. It's no wonder none of these people are in healthy relationships. They only care about themselves
I mean...Craig is always flustered Paige. Must not be that big of a ick.
Gabi is so great. Quirky. Beautiful and a great friend