I’m bummed that they didn’t ask Jenn about all of Devin’s claims, esp about the therapist. I wanted her to hear her side about it. She’s for people calling her a liar and I would not be okay having that out there without clearing it up.
If anyone the therapist claim made me question Devin more. If my wife didn’t like a therapist then that motherfucker gots to go! The fuck! Devin didn’t even care about going to therapy and he himself said it was Jenn that brought up going to therapy and the benefits of it. She even talked about that on the show
Yeah a little irresponsible of them, this should have been the most critical podcast of hers. Nick is usually so on top of the important questions too. They’ve talked about the show not putting any effort into taking care of Jenn and yet here they are showing up stoned
@@Bdubb540 I watched it and didn’t hear much. She basically said he is allowed to tell his side but what he did showing their texts were a total invasion of privacy.
On the ATFR program with Jesse, she said that Devin would not go to counseling. However, in her text messages they were talking about their counseling appointments, and they were seeing one counselor together. Without telling Devin, she decided she didn't like the counselor and felt she was inexperienced, and so she fired her. After she fired the counselor she didn't tell Devin. He had to find out from a letter he received from the counselor saying "sorry I was not able to help you". Devin later asked her about this, and felt it was wrong that she didn't say anything to him beforehand. All she said was "yeah I should've". This is just one example of how she worded her side of the story to get people to have sympathy for her.
I'm a little disappointed in the interview with Jenn. I felt like it was so anticlimactic, and wish y'all had her respond to some of the claims/texts Devin shared on his IG video, i.e, him refuting Jenn's claim of saying he was "absent" from the engagement the second they left Hawaii by showing texts between them to provide proof they were clearly in communication daily..... or how she completely, straight up lied about him refusing to go to therapy, when the texts clearly showed they did a few sessions together and individually. I just don't understand why y'all didn't press for atleast some of those responses from Jenn.
I agree. These text although an invasion of her privacy spoke volumes to me. She hasn’t been very truthful but she also doesn’t see how her behavior may have pushed Devin away. I’m a girls girl but Jen needs to work on herself, go to therapy and heal. Her texts showed she is insecure, needy and isn’t always able to see other peoples situations from a unselfish perspective
@@kristenk8666yes, they only saw each other for 11 days over the course of 3 months because unfortunately they still had to be in hiding/couldn't be seen together out in public while the show was airing, and therefore had to abide by strict rules of the Show, which includes relying on producers to schedule/book their "happy couple weekends" just for them to spend time together. And sure they could've sneaked around to where they saw each other more frequently, without the producers knowing, but they would've risked getting in trouble (whatever consequences that entails in their contracts, I have no idea..) if they ever got caught. My point here is that Jenn insinuated that Devin didn't really communicate with her much after Hawaii, which the texts seem to prove the opposite.
45:27 okay I almost mentioned this previously and didn’t, but as a viewer, I want to see the clips or pics your looking at for reference in one of the corners of the video so us viewers know what your talking about if the topic is new. also super excited to hear from jenn so thank you
Jena Friedman’s stand up routine, “Women Don’t Watch True Crime, We Study It” already told us all we needed to know about why it’s so popular, especially amongst women. Still brilliant and one of the best commentaries on our joke of a criminal justice & policing systems.
They dedicated an entire segment to Foo Fighters, and didn’t bother to educate themselves on ANYTHING beforehand, which irritating AF, and way too typical for this pod, but the disrespect towards the late, great Taylor Hawkins, whose name they couldn’t even be bothered to look up, who was one of THE greatest drummers and who was the actual nicest guy in rock n roll, is just referred to as “some drummer”!? Gross.🤢🤮 The lack of even attempting to research 90% of the topics they “discuss” is so lazy and insulting to listeners. They’re making bank off of the listeners, and they can’t even bother to get a few names right? They used to have intelligent, meaningful conversations, and it’s devolved into utter nonsense - and they can’t even talk about that in a way that doesn’t make you roll your eyes every few seconds. They got way too comfortable and lazy. And The Rolling Stones are a band, not a magazine. It’s just Rolling Stone. Take a cue from a podcast that actually cares what it says to their audience and wants to correct any mistakes or blatant untruths that they tell us, and do some corrections at the end like Armchair. Seth Myers won an Emmy for his “Corrections” segment. But then Nick would have to admit he’s actually regularly wrong about the things that come out of his mouth. This is just embarrassing for them at this point.🤦🏻♀️
The disrespect of late great Taylor Hawkins made me lose sooo much respect for this podcast. If you’re going to to speak of someone deceased, put respect on their name. This was disgusting.
Ok thank you I can now leave my standing post fixed on refreshing the iPad waiting for drop. I wish episodes would drop 1 hour earlier so we could ‘watch’ while am cardio 😌
Jenn you are so lucky to have your life get back on track. What's really impressive about you is that you remain humble and girl next-door ish even though you're world famous. So looking forward to your DWTS. 😌😌
Of course Nick had to point out that just sharing texts out loud is different than posting screenshots because that’s what he did to Katie. Although I don’t really think there is a difference
He’s ALWAYS doing this.🙄 He really doesn’t seem to understand how transparent all those moves are. We know you’re constantly just trying to excuse past poor behavior you exhibited with women you used to date. We ALL know. Just like him being extremely triggered & threatened by Justin Baldoni is because JB is ACTUALLY, in reality, the man he’s constantly pretending and wishing he was. And he always just WAS, he didn’t have to try SO hard to convince everyone he’s a good person.
And a band they know absolutely nothing about, and couldn’t even bother to name the iconic drummer, Taylor Hawkins, one of the best ever, who passed away, just referred to him as “some drummer”, and then pretended to be SO touched at the moment his child came on stage to play his dad’s part, but didn’t know a THING about them, not even names. The lack of ANY kind of research is just gross, insulting, and makes them sound, frankly, dumb AF at this point.
you're not kidding. It's amazing how many people are blindly believing in her stories. She told so many half stories and partial truths to get people to side with her.
i know right!!! like how she wanted to break up with him first ??? i read almost all the texts and he seemed really invested in the relationship and she kept saying how she needed time apart from him and needed space.. i am so confused!!
The texts really didn't prove anything bud lol. He didnt even read what he posted. They were all texts of when they were engaged after the show...asking him his morning, sexting, what hes doing in the day, why he isn't messaging her....Literally stuff normal couples would talk about. She was spiraling because she didnt know what he wanted
@@cherryonasundae LOL WHEREE WAS HE INVESTED?? His 1-liner texts? his dry "haha's"? leaving her on read? funny how if this same situation happened to a white girl, you guys would be defending her way more. yall are terrible
@@Isabella-hp4mc lol i mean jenn claimed he didnt even try and that he wouldnt do therapy when she was the one who fired the therapist lol keep thinking jenn is perfect.. lmao
Justin, you have to ask to have a blood type test; it is not run during regular blood tests. Nowadays you can get a simple typing test at a drug store without a nasty blood draw. I like you asking questions and having an open mind and bringing up points I don’t find you annoying at all. Some others have bad days and can be slightly annoying when not needed but you guys are great.
Your fans may be a bit confused by the Ravens history you all spoke of - in 1984 the Baltimore Colts moved overnite to Indianapolis to become the Indianapolis Colts - same colors & name as Baltimore’s team. Baltimore was left without a team until 1996 when the ‘Browns’ became the new team, Ravens. Cleveland came back with their Browns team in name & colors in 1999.🏈
Thank you for the interview with Jenn. She's forging ahead with positive attitude. She most certainly dodged two very questionable final two. That's the silver lining.
nick we all know you read the texts between jenn and devin.. why didnt you bring them up ?? we need to head jenns side of this topic because honestly looking at those texts i dont believe jenn anymore.. devin looked really emotionally invested in the relationship and she looked really needy alot of those texts proved that jenn was lying about the therapist, the calls before ATFR, and him trying to breakup in person
So is she not gonna take accountability for the things she said to Devin via text? Now I understand why he said he felt like he couldn’t live up to her expectations.
@@lindsey20302 What? How is taking accountability lead to him not living up to her expectations? What I saw in the texts is him falling asleep, being hung over, not doing much to show he cared when she was going through anxiety. It felt like she couldn’t do right by him either. He also curated the messages mostly by her to paint her in a bad light.
@@strwberricuttie Not sure what you read, but she ignored him too. They texted almost every day. I would think that is enough. I can’t even do that. Would drive me insane. To claim he “ghosted” her right after filming is a bit dramatic to me and clearly they were texting… a lot. I saw the opposite while reading the texts and I thought it seemed like he couldn’t do right by her. I guess to each their own. And is she not painting him in a bad light too? Whether he “curated the messages,” or not, facts are facts. 🤷🏻♀️
@@lindsey20302 What I saw were that only HER sexts were shown. Where were his? You know during those sex conversations, as a man, he's saying nastier stuff, yet none were shown. He curated the data in his favor, which means he did the same for the other texts he released. And the fact he only showed her sexts means he meant to embarrass and shame her, regardless of what he says afterwards. What kind of man does that?
@@doodahgurlie Can’t tell ya. Wouldn’t know. I’m not Devin. What I do know is he posted facts. Both need to own up to their stuff, which, to me, it seems like Devin is really the only one.
It’s great that she is processing things the way that’s right her. I hope she can do well when she’s not being rushed from one thing to the next. I hope we all can move away from the Deven effect. It’s like a bad accident. Nick how do you not ask her about being a badger? 🤷🏾♀️
I just read that Dave Grohl’s wife retained a divorce lawyer before his announcement. So maybe that’s why he announced it, to get ahead of rumors?? His daugher Violet who often goes on stage with him also just totally deactivated her social media. Sad!
Not at all taking sides BUT Devin did mention he was quiet because he was blindsided, and most likely didn’t want to embarrass her on tv in that moment. When he was basically ambushed with a false narrative, he even said “what is going on here” during filming. When he got so much hate after that, I think the gloves came off.
Agreed! I can't believe they didn't bother to read all the texts and press her about the inconsistencies in her story. She wished him the best before AFR and then threw him under the bus and made him look like the biggest villain of all time. That's why he was taken aback onstage, that part is pretty clear. I'm sure there's more to the story, but Jenn isn't the faultless hero people are making her out to be.
@@strwberricuttie he’s not off the hook. There’s 2 people in the relationship, THREE sides to it. Jen’s side, Devin’s side and the truth. Jen wasn’t exactly honest and was quick to point his faults out on stage but he remained silent (in that moment) and didn’t out any of her faults. He did do a lot of shady stuff (before, during and after) and he should have not released the unnecessary (unrelated to his points) and private intimate texts. That was pretty low. The ones to prove he was attending happy couples, I can see why he would release those. I can also see why he would release the ones where she kept saying “this isn’t working, let’s take a break” etc… she should have expected the breakup, she literally told him before he ever broke it off for good with her and gave her what she said she wanted. Jen did text him before the show wishing him all the best, he was probably expecting a quick “it didn’t work out, it is what it is and we wish the best for eachother” but instead he got humiliated/shamed infront of the world. I see both sides. I feel bad for Jen because she just wants love so badly and wanted it to work but it was better off ending sooner rather than further down the engagement or even marriage than him to keep dragging it on. I hope they can both heal and move on from it.
@@BrandNameVegan Pretty sure no one but Devin and Jenn read all the texts since they have them. The mere fact that only Jenn's sexting was shown and none of his proves he curated a narrative that is favorable to him. If he's hiding his sexting but has no problems with showing hers, then what else is he hiding? And what kind of man releases sexts like that? One who wanted to embarrass and shame a woman. He is not honorable. at. all.
@@BrandNameVegan Tonight I had a thought about something that I had not considered before: 1) He said he was not able to hear what was being said on stage before he went out. I don't know if this is always how it's done, or not. If not, I wonder if this is because they were planning to ambush and blindside him, like they did. 2) However, If they always do this, then I wondered if people involved with the show convinced Jenn to bring up things she was not planning to say when he came out on stage. I thought about the text message that Devin said Jenn sent to him right after they were on stage together ATFR. She said she knew he didn't have his phone back yet (I guess the producers take those away for some reason) and she was sorry for how the show went, and how it made him look. This is the only thing that makes sense to me now of why she would have sent him a message like that.
From Day 1 it was a competition with Devin, he only wanted to win at all costs. I figured that out after the first episode. I was hoping that Jenn was going to figure it out. Broke down Pete Davidson is a snake and can't be trusted, red flag to every woman out there.
You don’t always lose your right to vote if you have a felony. Once you’re past probation or parole after a certain amount of time, you can be eligible to vote again.
Anyone else yelling at their phone to correct the info said about Foo Fighters and Nirvana?.... Butch Vig (not Micray or whatever Nick) produced Nevermind and was in the band: Garbage (not Garage)
I know jenn is TIRED of dealing with Devin and she just wants to move on. It’s emotionally taxing having to explain over and over to the media especially because he hurt her so bad. YALL SAW IT ON THE FINALE. Let the girl move on. She doesn’t owe us anything.
@@monica11760 Just as exhausting as having to put up with Devin's half-truths and lies. He's the one purposefully releasing one-sided sexts to embarrass her. Where are his sexts because she cannot be conversing with herself and we know he's got nastier stuff he's hiding from our eyes. Which then makes one wonder what else he's hiding from our eyes in the rest of the texts because you know, context matters. He curated the data to try and make himself look good, while trying to trash her. What a total loser.
So what happened with Marcus? She reconnected with Jonathon but there was no mention of Marcus. I guess she just realized he clearly isn't emotionally ready?
One of the most confusing things I heard from Jenn was when Jesse asked her if Marcus had been able to tell her much sooner that he loved her, would her ending be different, and would she have chosen him. She said no. What the hell?
@@greasergirrlbut they didn't know he had a girlfriend or that she was expecting when they said it... she said it's her celebrity crush?? seriously what is the big deal?
@@cattolbert7083 I simply said it looks bad. You're the one getting your panties in a bunch trying to defend them. If Tatum's gf saw this I'm sure it would agitate her. It doesn't go much deeper than that. But as others have commented on this podcast, they don't do a very good job of looking up info before they discuss it. They have all these little underlings and can't even bother having them do quick google search properly. Jenn is literally making a public service announcement, telling him to hit her up. And Natalie said (after knowing he had a gf) to contact Jenn if it doesn't work out. Just looks trashy. Whether they intended it or not.
Why dies it look like Natalie never has pants on. She looks like a pretty child. Like she’s 14 years old. I know she’s like 28 /29 but she seems so much younger and dresses like a teenager. I’m just curious?
Villages have colors , & others are told to not wear their colors . Suntan sand people are different from European people. Catholic Mass has Gold or Silver Challis on the alter . Praying in Church , while their children are joining gangs , running the streets . European people dress on Sunday & sing songs at Mass. Chinese people were in Europe not only in other Worlds . Conceived with Love are all God's children .
Started watching and immediately asked myself,
"How high is Nick right now?" 😂
LOVE the show!
Checked the comments looking for this one.
I didn’t even know he smoked haha I love nick
I thought the same thing!!!
Hahaha he looked sooo lit I love that for him 😂😂
So high😂😂😂😂
Best thing this podcast has done is not give Devin a platform to speak anymore
They wanted to tho. Devin declined
Yea not by choice. They wanted him on over Jenn
@@ChristieJohnson-p5z Damn for real? I take my compliment back
I wanted Devin on because he could share his side and also be asked the questions.
i wanted him on that would be such a good episode
When Nick is high at the cabin they have the best episodes. ❤
It's so hilarious 😂
I have to say that he's a great interviewer
Never have I ever clicked on a video as fast in my life 😂
😅
Lake Nick cannot hide his obvious highness 😂
😂 I love Lake Nick the best!!
I’m bummed that they didn’t ask Jenn about all of Devin’s claims, esp about the therapist. I wanted her to hear her side about it. She’s for people calling her a liar and I would not be okay having that out there without clearing it up.
If anyone the therapist claim made me question Devin more. If my wife didn’t like a therapist then that motherfucker gots to go! The fuck! Devin didn’t even care about going to therapy and he himself said it was Jenn that brought up going to therapy and the benefits of it. She even talked about that on the show
Yeah a little irresponsible of them, this should have been the most critical podcast of hers. Nick is usually so on top of the important questions too. They’ve talked about the show not putting any effort into taking care of Jenn and yet here they are showing up stoned
if you listen to her most recent interview on the bachelor happy hour podcast she talks a little more in detail about her side of things
@@Bdubb540 I watched it and didn’t hear much. She basically said he is allowed to tell his side but what he did showing their texts were a total invasion of privacy.
On the ATFR program with Jesse, she said that Devin would not go to counseling. However, in her text messages they were talking about their counseling appointments, and they were seeing one counselor together. Without telling Devin, she decided she didn't like the counselor and felt she was inexperienced, and so she fired her. After she fired the counselor she didn't tell Devin. He had to find out from a letter he received from the counselor saying "sorry I was not able to help you". Devin later asked her about this, and felt it was wrong that she didn't say anything to him beforehand. All she said was "yeah I should've". This is just one example of how she worded her side of the story to get people to have sympathy for her.
it’s the way Jayson Tatum just had a whole baby with Ella Mai 😭😭😭😭😭
You are BELOVED Justin ! 🫶🏻
It was the Taylor Hawkins tribute concert his son Shaun played there goes my hero. Taylor Hawkins was the drummer for Foo Fighters.
I'm a little disappointed in the interview with Jenn. I felt like it was so anticlimactic, and wish y'all had her respond to some of the claims/texts Devin shared on his IG video, i.e, him refuting Jenn's claim of saying he was "absent" from the engagement the second they left Hawaii by showing texts between them to provide proof they were clearly in communication daily..... or how she completely, straight up lied about him refusing to go to therapy, when the texts clearly showed they did a few sessions together and individually. I just don't understand why y'all didn't press for atleast some of those responses from Jenn.
I agree. These text although an invasion of her privacy spoke volumes to me. She hasn’t been very truthful but she also doesn’t see how her behavior may have pushed Devin away. I’m a girls girl but Jen needs to work on herself, go to therapy and heal. Her texts showed she is insecure, needy and isn’t always able to see other peoples situations from a unselfish perspective
@@courtneedowns8090100% agree with all of your points!!
They saw each other 11 days in 3 months. That's absent. You don't have a relationship over the phone, much less an engagement.
But you also betrayed him by lying on tv 🤔
@@kristenk8666yes, they only saw each other for 11 days over the course of 3 months because unfortunately they still had to be in hiding/couldn't be seen together out in public while the show was airing, and therefore had to abide by strict rules of the Show, which includes relying on producers to schedule/book their "happy couple weekends" just for them to spend time together. And sure they could've sneaked around to where they saw each other more frequently, without the producers knowing, but they would've risked getting in trouble (whatever consequences that entails in their contracts, I have no idea..) if they ever got caught.
My point here is that Jenn insinuated that Devin didn't really communicate with her much after Hawaii, which the texts seem to prove the opposite.
45:27 okay I almost mentioned this previously and didn’t, but as a viewer, I want to see the clips or pics your looking at for reference in one of the corners of the video so us viewers know what your talking about if the topic is new. also super excited to hear from jenn so thank you
Jena Friedman’s stand up routine, “Women Don’t Watch True Crime, We Study It” already told us all we needed to know about why it’s so popular, especially amongst women.
Still brilliant and one of the best commentaries on our joke of a criminal justice & policing systems.
Nick you give us the answers we all want!!!!!! Gracias
Love how Jenn has her celebrity crushes all lined up 😂
lol come on
Jenn interview segment is 52:45
Thank you
MVP
Thank you
Literally the first view because I’ve been refreshing your page all morning because I’m DYING for this episode
We all love Jonathon for Jenn❤❤ but Jenn needs some time to heal and process everything. Just focus on you Jenn and heal.
Justin you’re my favorite and I love your perspective
I love Justin, but I have trouble looking at his blond hair. It seems silly I know, but he was so much more attractive as brunette Justin.
They dedicated an entire segment to Foo Fighters, and didn’t bother to educate themselves on ANYTHING beforehand, which irritating AF, and way too typical for this pod, but the disrespect towards the late, great Taylor Hawkins, whose name they couldn’t even be bothered to look up, who was one of THE greatest drummers and who was the actual nicest guy in rock n roll, is just referred to as “some drummer”!?
Gross.🤢🤮
The lack of even attempting to research 90% of the topics they “discuss” is so lazy and insulting to listeners. They’re making bank off of the listeners, and they can’t even bother to get a few names right?
They used to have intelligent, meaningful conversations, and it’s devolved into utter nonsense - and they can’t even talk about that in a way that doesn’t make you roll your eyes every few seconds.
They got way too comfortable and lazy.
And The Rolling Stones are a band, not a magazine. It’s just Rolling Stone.
Take a cue from a podcast that actually cares what it says to their audience and wants to correct any mistakes or blatant untruths that they tell us, and do some corrections at the end like Armchair. Seth Myers won an Emmy for his “Corrections” segment.
But then Nick would have to admit he’s actually regularly wrong about the things that come out of his mouth.
This is just embarrassing for them at this point.🤦🏻♀️
They don’t even need to do the research themselves. I’m sure they have staff who can do the prep and send them the notes beforehand
The disrespect of late great Taylor Hawkins made me lose sooo much respect for this podcast. If you’re going to to speak of someone deceased, put respect on their name. This was disgusting.
Ok thank you I can now leave my standing post fixed on refreshing the iPad waiting for drop. I wish episodes would drop 1 hour earlier so we could ‘watch’ while am cardio 😌
Jenn you are so lucky to have your life get back on track. What's really impressive about you is that you remain humble and girl next-door ish even though you're world famous. So looking forward to your DWTS. 😌😌
The football vibes segment is the best thing to ever happen to me
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 voting for jen and joey
Of course Nick had to point out that just sharing texts out loud is different than posting screenshots because that’s what he did to Katie. Although I don’t really think there is a difference
He’s ALWAYS doing this.🙄 He really doesn’t seem to understand how transparent all those moves are.
We know you’re constantly just trying to excuse past poor behavior you exhibited with women you used to date. We ALL know.
Just like him being extremely triggered & threatened by Justin Baldoni is because JB is ACTUALLY, in reality, the man he’s constantly pretending and wishing he was.
And he always just WAS, he didn’t have to try SO hard to convince everyone he’s a good person.
I love Lake House High Nick... he is the best 😂
As a Gemini Rising with Mercury in the 1H, I am so here for the Mercury acknowledgment! lol
Whoever said “Bars” is amazing and I love you 17:14
The Foo Fighters drummer died (Taylor Hawkins) and his son played with the Foo Fighters, that’s why it was so special
Why are we doing an entire segment on football pls stop
And a band they know absolutely nothing about, and couldn’t even bother to name the iconic drummer, Taylor Hawkins, one of the best ever, who passed away, just referred to him as “some drummer”, and then pretended to be SO touched at the moment his child came on stage to play his dad’s part, but didn’t know a THING about them, not even names.
The lack of ANY kind of research is just gross, insulting, and makes them sound, frankly, dumb AF at this point.
Nick's reaction at 45:35 is so good
Jason Tatum is definitely with Ella Mai and they just had a baby
Jenn looks amazing
Well, well this is new!! High as a kite but hey why not I’m here for it 😂
Seems like some of the stuff on the texts contradicts what Jenn said.
you're not kidding. It's amazing how many people are blindly believing in her stories. She told so many half stories and partial truths to get people to side with her.
i know right!!! like how she wanted to break up with him first ??? i read almost all the texts and he seemed really invested in the relationship and she kept saying how she needed time apart from him and needed space.. i am so confused!!
The texts really didn't prove anything bud lol. He didnt even read what he posted. They were all texts of when they were engaged after the show...asking him his morning, sexting, what hes doing in the day, why he isn't messaging her....Literally stuff normal couples would talk about. She was spiraling because she didnt know what he wanted
@@cherryonasundae LOL WHEREE WAS HE INVESTED?? His 1-liner texts? his dry "haha's"? leaving her on read? funny how if this same situation happened to a white girl, you guys would be defending her way more. yall are terrible
@@Isabella-hp4mc lol i mean jenn claimed he didnt even try and that he wouldnt do therapy when she was the one who fired the therapist lol keep thinking jenn is perfect.. lmao
27:10 Nick's Nirvana story correction, the music producer is Butch Vig, the band he was in is "Garbage", not "Garage". Great band!
Justin, you have to ask to have a blood type test; it is not run during regular blood tests. Nowadays you can get a simple typing test at a drug store without a nasty blood draw. I like you asking questions and having an open mind and bringing up points I don’t find you annoying at all. Some others have bad days and can be slightly annoying when not needed but you guys are great.
Your fans may be a bit confused by the Ravens history you all spoke of - in 1984 the Baltimore Colts moved overnite to Indianapolis to become the Indianapolis Colts - same colors & name as Baltimore’s team. Baltimore was left without a team until 1996 when the ‘Browns’ became the new team, Ravens. Cleveland came back with their Browns team in name & colors in 1999.🏈
Thank you for the interview with Jenn. She's forging ahead with positive attitude. She most certainly dodged two very questionable final two. That's the silver lining.
.Marcus and Devin dodged a bullet, too.....
@@monica11760 Marcus has been accused of SA by multiple exes. That is on a whole other level.
nick we all know you read the texts between jenn and devin.. why didnt you bring them up ?? we need to head jenns side of this topic because honestly looking at those texts i dont believe jenn anymore..
devin looked really emotionally invested in the relationship and she looked really needy
alot of those texts proved that jenn was lying about the therapist, the calls before ATFR, and him trying to breakup in person
nick, how high are you in this intro haha
Bucs Fan all the way ! Tampa native ! Bakerrrrr Mayfield baby !
He actually did a segment in Sesame Street 😂
Please don’t have Devin on, do not give that man a platform!!!!
I am amazed that people will blindly side with her even though she shares partial stores and half truths.
So is she not gonna take accountability for the things she said to Devin via text? Now I understand why he said he felt like he couldn’t live up to her expectations.
@@lindsey20302 What? How is taking accountability lead to him not living up to her expectations? What I saw in the texts is him falling asleep, being hung over, not doing much to show he cared when she was going through anxiety. It felt like she couldn’t do right by him either. He also curated the messages mostly by her to paint her in a bad light.
@@strwberricuttie Not sure what you read, but she ignored him too. They texted almost every day. I would think that is enough. I can’t even do that. Would drive me insane. To claim he “ghosted” her right after filming is a bit dramatic to me and clearly they were texting… a lot. I saw the opposite while reading the texts and I thought it seemed like he couldn’t do right by her. I guess to each their own. And is she not painting him in a bad light too? Whether he “curated the messages,” or not, facts are facts. 🤷🏻♀️
@@lindsey20302 What I saw were that only HER sexts were shown. Where were his? You know during those sex conversations, as a man, he's saying nastier stuff, yet none were shown. He curated the data in his favor, which means he did the same for the other texts he released. And the fact he only showed her sexts means he meant to embarrass and shame her, regardless of what he says afterwards. What kind of man does that?
God forbid someone falls asleep at 2am after working@@strwberricuttie
@@doodahgurlie Can’t tell ya. Wouldn’t know. I’m not Devin. What I do know is he posted facts. Both need to own up to their stuff, which, to me, it seems like Devin is really the only one.
Why didn’t they ask about Marcus and where things stand with him?
Haha, as a fellow smoker I was relating to Nick’s reactions on everything since it’s obvious he’s high af too😵💫
Wow... Jonathan put in the friend zone. He should move on. He's just embarrassing himself.
“With Jonathan “😂😂😂😂 we are all hoping this
Max Strus is single by the way, Jenn says “I love that”😊
It’s great that she is processing things the way that’s right her. I hope she can do well when she’s not being rushed from one thing to the next. I hope we all can move away from the Deven effect. It’s like a bad accident. Nick how do you not ask her about being a badger? 🤷🏾♀️
I just read that Dave Grohl’s wife retained a divorce lawyer before his announcement. So maybe that’s why he announced it, to get ahead of rumors?? His daugher Violet who often goes on stage with him also just totally deactivated her social media. Sad!
“No they were absolutely right” LMAOOOO
Not at all taking sides BUT Devin did mention he was quiet because he was blindsided, and most likely didn’t want to embarrass her on tv in that moment. When he was basically ambushed with a false narrative, he even said “what is going on here” during filming. When he got so much hate after that, I think the gloves came off.
Agreed! I can't believe they didn't bother to read all the texts and press her about the inconsistencies in her story. She wished him the best before AFR and then threw him under the bus and made him look like the biggest villain of all time. That's why he was taken aback onstage, that part is pretty clear. I'm sure there's more to the story, but Jenn isn't the faultless hero people are making her out to be.
@@BrandNameVegan No one said she is the saint. But why is he suddenly OFF the hook? Nope.
@@strwberricuttie he’s not off the hook. There’s 2 people in the relationship, THREE sides to it. Jen’s side, Devin’s side and the truth. Jen wasn’t exactly honest and was quick to point his faults out on stage but he remained silent (in that moment) and didn’t out any of her faults. He did do a lot of shady stuff (before, during and after) and he should have not released the unnecessary (unrelated to his points) and private intimate texts. That was pretty low. The ones to prove he was attending happy couples, I can see why he would release those. I can also see why he would release the ones where she kept saying “this isn’t working, let’s take a break” etc… she should have expected the breakup, she literally told him before he ever broke it off for good with her and gave her what she said she wanted.
Jen did text him before the show wishing him all the best, he was probably expecting a quick “it didn’t work out, it is what it is and we wish the best for eachother” but instead he got humiliated/shamed infront of the world.
I see both sides. I feel bad for Jen because she just wants love so badly and wanted it to work but it was better off ending sooner rather than further down the engagement or even marriage than him to keep dragging it on.
I hope they can both heal and move on from it.
@@BrandNameVegan Pretty sure no one but Devin and Jenn read all the texts since they have them. The mere fact that only Jenn's sexting was shown and none of his proves he curated a narrative that is favorable to him. If he's hiding his sexting but has no problems with showing hers, then what else is he hiding? And what kind of man releases sexts like that? One who wanted to embarrass and shame a woman. He is not honorable. at. all.
@@BrandNameVegan Tonight I had a thought about something that I had not considered before: 1) He said he was not able to hear what was being said on stage before he went out. I don't know if this is always how it's done, or not. If not, I wonder if this is because they were planning to ambush and blindside him, like they did. 2) However, If they always do this, then I wondered if people involved with the show convinced Jenn to bring up things she was not planning to say when he came out on stage. I thought about the text message that Devin said Jenn sent to him right after they were on stage together ATFR. She said she knew he didn't have his phone back yet (I guess the producers take those away for some reason) and she was sorry for how the show went, and how it made him look. This is the only thing that makes sense to me now of why she would have sent him a message like that.
Nick is so high I'm dying 🤣
Jenn is so sweet ❤ she deserves a real man that’ll put her first in everything.
and her man just needs her to tell the whole story and not partial truths.
This might be my favorite intro ever! Hilarious!! shhhhh 🤫
Any update on when the merch Natalie helped design will be available?
From Day 1 it was a competition with Devin, he only wanted to win at all costs. I figured that out after the first episode. I was hoping that Jenn was going to figure it out. Broke down Pete Davidson is a snake and can't be trusted, red flag to every woman out there.
Ending it with Matt strus is single btw” 😂😂😂😂😂
You don’t always lose your right to vote if you have a felony. Once you’re past probation or parole after a certain amount of time, you can be eligible to vote again.
Well this was a throwaway...
I have been literally checking ALL MORNING AND AFTERNOON. The time has finally come. 🙌 ❤ Can't wait for Jennnnnnnnnn ❤❤❤❤
“I didn’t hear much of anything” LMAOOO AHAHAHAHA
Anyone else yelling at their phone to correct the info said about Foo Fighters and Nirvana?....
Butch Vig (not Micray or whatever Nick) produced Nevermind and was in the band: Garbage (not Garage)
I know jenn is TIRED of dealing with Devin and she just wants to move on. It’s emotionally taxing having to explain over and over to the media especially because he hurt her so bad. YALL SAW IT ON THE FINALE. Let the girl move on. She doesn’t owe us anything.
Lol the finally was literally a week ago, even she knows she's obligated to talk about it
she can decline to do interviews you know.. lol no one is forcing her
@@bellam7504 Pretty sure she'll do as ABC says until her contract ends in a year.
and especially covering up all of her half stories and partial truths......that would be exhausting.
@@monica11760 Just as exhausting as having to put up with Devin's half-truths and lies. He's the one purposefully releasing one-sided sexts to embarrass her. Where are his sexts because she cannot be conversing with herself and we know he's got nastier stuff he's hiding from our eyes. Which then makes one wonder what else he's hiding from our eyes in the rest of the texts because you know, context matters. He curated the data to try and make himself look good, while trying to trash her. What a total loser.
“Should I wear my engagement dress” LMAOOOO AHAHAHAHAHA
OK LAKE NICK IS LOOKING SO CUTE I LOBE THE FIT AND THE HIGH. You’re so funny! And adorable.
I agree!! She does carry herself so well!!! And so well spoken!!
....even when she is lying........yeah, what a gfit.
@@monica11760 Are you Devin's mother or girlfriend? You sound like you've an ax to grind based on all your comments.
heyyy where’s the rest of the recap of mormon wives lol
Liked the way she slid in Johnathan. Give it time.
The fact Gardner Minshew was not discussed as part of the vibes of the Raiders was a real miss. His whole brand is vibes
I watch crime stuff but not before bed to relax that is disturbing would give me nightmares lol
we love Jenn
Fully agree about Bonnie Tyler :D
It's was Tyler the foo fighters drummer who passed away & Tyler's son who played 🤦🏽♀️
So what happened with Marcus? She reconnected with Jonathon but there was no mention of Marcus. I guess she just realized he clearly isn't emotionally ready?
She heard from his exes! Nothing good!
One of the most confusing things I heard from Jenn was when Jesse asked her if Marcus had been able to tell her much sooner that he loved her, would her ending be different, and would she have chosen him. She said no. What the hell?
@@monica11760 She had said she wouldn’t change anything because she has learned a lot from her mistakes.
@@monica11760 especially after all the SA accusations!
@@Saborborikua wait what?
“I can’t do it without tequila shots and being in a very very dark room” LMAOOO AHAHAHAHAH
Does “late nick” mean under the influence Nick? 😂👀
Lake Nick…yes
Probably 😂😂😂
@@candy07831 thank you for clarifying. I think there was a slur there that I misunderstood. 😂😂
What Jenn and Natalie say about Jason Tatum looks pretty bad knowing his gf is pregnant.
they didn't know
@@cattolbert7083 so? still looks bad
@@greasergirrlbut they didn't know he had a girlfriend or that she was expecting when they said it... she said it's her celebrity crush?? seriously what is the big deal?
@@cattolbert7083 I simply said it looks bad. You're the one getting your panties in a bunch trying to defend them. If Tatum's gf saw this I'm sure it would agitate her. It doesn't go much deeper than that. But as others have commented on this podcast, they don't do a very good job of looking up info before they discuss it. They have all these little underlings and can't even bother having them do quick google search properly. Jenn is literally making a public service announcement, telling him to hit her up. And Natalie said (after knowing he had a gf) to contact Jenn if it doesn't work out. Just looks trashy. Whether they intended it or not.
why arent they in the studio?
Good lord that comment about the films being in the 1920’s 🙄. Gen Z thinks she so above it, Settle down. Those were all great movies btw.
Who is this new girl working for u guys I love her 😅😂
I’m sooooo over the bachelorette. It was THE MOST boring season. Let’s please move on. The quicker we move on, the quicker Jenn’s heart can heal.
JENN IS MISSING OUT ON JONATHAN ! He was with us all along. …
Can you please have Jenn return again while she's on DWTS and after DWTS? PLEASE 💕
who is this new household member 😭
Doing the show while you're baked? You're not Bill Maher, he earned that shit.
The bust/statue of the Native American / Indigenous man behind nick seems out of place and maybe shouldn’t be a decoration…
Where’s the guy from ur past who tried getting on ur season?! Has he reached out after the finale?
Justice for sweet boy Justin!🎉
James Earl Jones very prolific stage actor
Someone needs to tell Jenn that Jayson Tatum literally just had a baby with Ella Mai
I get it, Natalie is very gen Z. But mocking Hunt for Red October is crazy.
Give us the wedding video
1:14:50 At least Sam M was nice I stayed on his and Thomas N's side the whole time
Why dies it look like Natalie never has pants on. She looks like a pretty child. Like she’s 14 years old. I know she’s like 28 /29 but she seems so much younger and dresses like a teenager. I’m just curious?
She just turned 26 last week
Also she’s just relaxing and being comfy at the lake it’s not like she wears that every podcast
Jen’s too young to know who Nancy is lol
Ok, first they didn't know Oasis, now they don't know the Jack Ryan movies. WTF!!!!! I'm so old (and so is Nick apparently) And Dave Grohl??? JFC
Villages have colors , & others are told to not wear their colors . Suntan sand people are different from European people. Catholic Mass has Gold or Silver Challis on the alter . Praying in Church , while their children are joining gangs , running the streets . European people dress on Sunday & sing songs at Mass. Chinese people were in Europe not only in other Worlds . Conceived with Love are all God's children .
Jonathan was the best catch on the season