Outstanding testimony to his greatness! Great job! Beethoven is still truly under rated....for his true genius and impact is still to be fully understood and appreciated!
Konrad I agree Beethoven is underrated ,many people just don't seem to realise or appreciate that his compositions are often so much more creative and expresses mankind's feelings and emotions far more than any other composer. Oh by the way he at times wrote the most beautiful music that rivals Mozart at his best.
Great documentary, and this is coming from someone with almost zero grasp on anything classical music. I know it’s been three years since you made this, but I think if you made more documentaries like this you would blow up. Great work, and thank you
Definitely Beethoven was and is and will be the greatest composer in the World. There is a lot of arguments to prove that. I mention only one of them: He is Pele but without legs and Muhammad Ali but without arms and Michelangelo but without eyes and Newton but without mind, and Chaplin but abed.
Andrew I and so many countless numbers of classical music fans do NOT agree with the narrator we think absolutely Beethoven was the greatest composer of all time .
This Documentary is one of the best I've heard I was feeling down then I came across this. He did know his worth when you said he always stood what was right (Bravo) Thank you for this you cheered me up.
Trying to "get into" classical music is such a daunting endeavor because it's hard to know where to start, who was influenced and who did the influencing, and what exactly made certain composers special. This video wonderfully handles that and I appreciate your way of putting this music into context. Well played!
Just get absorbed into sound and let it take th reigns. Stay away from historical context. Its not even important who composed what, for it is God that creates and uses the musician as an instrument of his will.
Bravo reply, I listen to Beethoven for the beauty and genuise of his music when people tell me their problems I try to understand them then I say you think you have problems then I tell them about Beethoven their shocked when I tell them he composed music while death.
WELCOME! We love you and want you and your family and friends among us. You'll find much LOVE here especially among "BEETHOVENISTS", but also from MOZARTIANS.
As everyone else has said, this is one of the best short educational films that does a lot of work in 40 minutes. And then having the texts at the end--you are a lifesaver. Make more videos like this!!!
Regarding music theory... Beethoven redefined the meaning and the use of both harmony and counterpoint, forever thereafter. I was a kid and remained astonished when a music teacher of mine, told me that Beethoven was in company of three angels when he wrote his Fifth Simphony. Possibly an unorthodox way of telling about Beethoven genius, but sometimes I still believe it was true...
An ENORMOUS thank you. I have an academic background and have taken many university courses to help deepen my sense of Music Appreciation. None of those courses could hold a candle to this wonderful program that has been created and made available to us. Enduring Gratitude!
Utterly fantastic documentary you've made, concise, accessible incredibly engaging, thank you very much for making it I absolutely thoroughly enjoyed it.
I feel deeply that this - by far must be the best description or documentary of a man that indeed has changed the world. I wholeheartedly agree with every word of the narrator and how it all was pieced together. For that, let us have the "Ode to Joy"... Alle Menschen werden Brueder... now more important than ever. Namaste.
This was a phenomenal documentary of my favorite composer Ludwig van Beethoven! you have made me appreciate him even more! thank you a lot for putting this together.
Agree. So much info condensed into 42 mins. I'd happily listen to a multi- hour series by Aman Trivedi on each of the "greats" and even the lesser known composers.
Yes, Beethoven never heard his ninth symphony with his own ears, but I'm sure that he heard something even greater in his mind, something which we are probably unable to even imagine, but hopefully not something he took into his grave with him forever.
the four-note motif actually occurs even more frequently than you've shown, as the descending runs are phrased together in groups of four quavers, emphasis on the first.
Even the lyrical second theme ultimately originates from that same motif via expansion out into fifths(horn call), inversion of first half(Going upwards to Eb instead of down) and adding some embellishing notes. So, even where it's not obvious to the ear that it's the same motif, it is. In fact, I've heard some people describe the Fate Motif in the Fifth Symphony as being in generations, so like you have Generation 1 being the original descending thirds, then Generation 2 is that being developed into an arpeggio figure that runs through the first theme, then Generation 3 is the expanded version, the horn call, then Generation 4 is the lyrical second theme, then Generation 5 is that motif being broken down into a 2 note figure, then Generation 6 is further broken down to single notes and the whole first movement can be analyzed as a combination of these generations and various other developments of the motif. And this motif I've also heard being described as the glue that holds the symphony together cause it shows up in all the movements, developed the heck out of in the first movement, at the transitions to the C major parts of the second movement, as a horn call in the third movement, and as an ascending and later descending scalar figure in the Finale.
Loved the way you focussed on the technique of his work and put it across in such a simple yet effective way. The genius of Beethoven was felt throughout. Great work Aman!!
What a great video! Thank you to give us a concise and extremely rich explanation of how Beethoven is unique. I'm totally convinced that it always takes a rebel to change the world. Further, Beethoven still proves that a handicap can become a powerful source of motivation to do something different and unique!
Despite his lamentations, Beethoven is one of the greatest artists who ever lived. How many people can change the world- in a beautiful way. inside a man was a world and he flew over it and shared his journey. I don't think he was ever aware of the effect he would have.
A real genius,indeed! God given his talent,the world should listen,my hope is we can listening in eternity,his music.He certainly gained his hearing,I am sure!
@@eloisem3214 Actually he considered himself above others and a lot of historical records show this. For example, in a letter he wrote "There are many princes and there will continue to be thousands more, but there is only one Beethoven". Beethoven also hated Rossini works, and claimed that he or other italian composers could not rob him his place in history. Beethoven was actually very arrogant, but had the skills to back it up
So glad to find this. Well done! Especially like the parts about Beethoven's personality. Beethoven was the greatest composer and the noblest human being among all the great composers. ❤️
What a beautiful film! My sister and I played the 5th Symphony record over and over when we were kids and danced and acted out our fantasies to it in the living room--using blankets etc for costumes (King's robe) - the last movement made us feel like royalty- Thanks for the farewell letter from Beethoven you showed at the end
Absolutely, one of the finest films, of any kind, that I have seen. Superbly crafted and musically illustrated to perfection. Thank you for this wonderful contribution to music appreciation. I know it will go far in helping people understand the magnitude of Beethoven's vast legacy.
I do appreciate very much this documentary and much more appreciating my favorite classical composer Beethoven even more . . thank you Aman Trivedi for this I did learned more about this God given talent. .
Wonderful overview of Beethoven, who is the GREATEST composer of all time, and it's not close. 200 years after his death his music still is the height of all most every category: piano music, symphonies, string quartet, piano concerto, violin concerto, etc. and his music is still the most played in concert halls. I've read 47 bios on Ludwig and, as you rightly point out, he overcame more issues than most anyone in history to create a body of work unparalled. I wrote and produced a play on his life and I'm producing a film about a pianist obsessed with Beethoven. Thanks for continuing to spread the legacy of Ludwig van Beethoven.
Ron Russell a truly great example is Beethovens piano concerto Number 3,3rd movement.Overall most of this is not up tempo ,Then the last 3 minutes he suddenly launches into the solo piano section which is so complex,so brilliant and so creative without doubt music from an artist of staggering genius the one and only Beethoven.
One of my favorite Peanuts Comics: Schroeder was a huge Beethoven fan. Lucy says "tomorrow is Beethoven's birthday. what are you going to buy me?" Schroeder replies that he's not going to buy. her anything. "You don't care anything about Beethoven! You never have! You never cared that he suffered! Or that his stomach hurt! Or that he couldn't hear! You never cared that the countess turned him down, or that Therese married the Baron instead, or that Lobkowitz canceled his annuity!" And then Schroeder stormed off angrily. Lucy then asked "If the countess hadn't turned him down, would you buy me something?"
For some reason, from 22:30 to 23:05 (the 4th mvt of the Fifth) your video doesn’t have any sound at all. It had sound when I first watched your video. Wonder if you would fix it? Thanks for your video!
For more expressions of raw emotion from Mozart, take a listen of the Piano concerto in d minor K.466, or Symphony 39 (KV 543,) and you can't possibly listen to the great aria by the Queen of the Night in the Magic Flute and tell me it's nice and predictable. Acknowledging this takes nothing away from Beethoven's greatness.
This video is very informing and inteligent in concept ans stile. I love Ludwigs works, it changed my life completely to the very day. When this started I did know nothing about him. It was the Eroica 4th movment. It was an Oboe that turned me upside down.
This is well made, informative, and entertaining. Thank you for making this video essay. For me, Beethoven is my favorite composer and the one I relate and play most of his piano works, but objectively Bach is the greatest composer.
Thank you, I don't have a background in music so watching this helped me understand why I gravitate towards Beethoven during the dark periods of my life. His music can console like no other.
Time Life made 33 rpm records one could buy for 99 cents each. I purchased all of Beethoven's symphonies this way when I was in my late teens. Ninety-nine cents for a complete work of Beethoven. I'm not sure whether Beethoven would have been enraged or overjoyed by this. I was most certainly blessed by it.
How would you rank Beethoven's symphonies? I'd go with: 1. 9th 2. 3rd 3. 5th 4. 6th 5. 7th 6. 8th 7. 4th 8. 1st 9. 2nd 9th and 3rd are so universally acclaimed, that's it's not a surprise, 9th has more of the grandeur that I find more appealing. I had a harder time picking between 5th, 6th, and 7th. 5th has absolutely legendary outer movements, so I picked it 3rd, while the 6th is strong overall with a more gentle mood when, 7th maybe has the most rousing final movement after incredible movements 1 and 2. 8th is very cleverly composed, but lacks any proper slow movement, 4th has an amazing fast part of the 1st movement, but it doesn't strike that deeply emotionally. Symphonies 1st and 2nd aren't as good as the rest, they have more classical period characteristics. Early piano sonatas by Beethoven are already very strong musically, but he truly found his very own orchestral language in the 3rd symphony. 1st has more compelling subjects than the 2nd for me. , I know you like the 2nd more.
That’s an interesting ranking. For me, it would go: 1. 7th 2. 6th 3. 5th 4. 9th 5. 3rd 6. 8th 7. 4th 8. 2nd 9. 1st For me, 7th is undoubtedly on top of the list for various reasons not the least of which is the brilliant second movement. Pastoral, Fifth and Ninth are somewhat equal for me but if I was to rank them, I would go with pastoral over the other two. It’s just so beautifully put together and I love how each movement transitions into another like a well structured story. I’m not very fond of the Eroica but I still like it more than his remaining symphonies, with first being my least favourite of the lot.
@@Ludwig55555 Oh wow. I’m actually surprised that the fifth didn’t make it to the list where as the Jupiter did. Don’t get me wrong: I absolutely love the 41st symphony, I just didn’t know it was that popular amongst classical listeners as compared to Mozart’s other symphonic works. For me personally, except for the 41st, neither of Mozart’s symphonies would make it on a personal top 10 list; it would probably be flooded with Beethoven, Mahler and Tchaikovsky. Lol. Conversely, if I made the same list for concertos, Mozart would be nearly everywhere on the list.
It's a tie between the third and the ninth. But they are all so different they defy comparison to each other. Because he broke ground with the third, I have to go with that one as the greatest symphony ever written.
One huge achievement is also that all his 32 piano sonatas, 9 symphonies, 5 piano concertos, all his string quartets, etc. Are really very different and almost perfect already with op. 1 till the very end
@@vladof_putler because you're comparing the happy jolly music of a kid with that of a masterfully created emotional, innovative music that digs deep into your soul.
Nice discussion! I would love to know whose recording you chose of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement because it's the best I've ever heard (and I have listened to dozens and dozens of it).
They should show your video in music history classes in college. Brings me back to the movie "Room With A View" where the girl only wanted to play Beethoven, to get her frustration out-- to which her mom and aunt were worried by- why this girl has to play all this "depressing" music?
@@seanleith5312 You have listened too shallowly. Beethoven's music always trends toward light and joy; any anger is transitory. And his late music transcends even joy - it looks straight into the light and echoes it back to us so we too can glimpse it. Listen to the piano sonatas. Cycle through all of them many times, if you have the patience. I bet that if you do, you will see what I mean and will hear what so many of us hear.
The Triumph of the Human spirit 💖👏✨ Hold its place on the phantom of the God of Music forever ✨ Sublime is his music just the idea that He conveyed feelings 6:40 into Music it’s extraordinary !…..crating a new sense of cognition 🦋 I can go on and on it touches my Soul Thank you Maestro 🙏 The extraordinary idea is that I’m not a musician ! But I can translate music into Color ……🤔🤫
Kia ora fellow Beethoven fans. Firstly, thanks to Aman for this accessible piece. Although I enjoyed it immensely, I think you could have done so much more than put excerpts from the Choral Symphony at the end. How about how he beat J S Bach at his own game (Hammerklavier 4th Movement), and introduced something which sounds like a forerunner of ragtime (2nd movement Piano Sonata Op. 111), and so much more all the while knowing he was writing for future musicians and not for his contemporaries. Reference his response to a friend who complained about the difficult passage in String Quartet Op. 135 2nd movement (the part in A if memory serves). "I can't think of your violin while I'm communicating with God." I think Beethoven was the complete composer. All good composers ask something of our ears. But Beethoven goes further. He teaches (if that's what you want), but I think he also makes demands of your soul, which is perhaps why he makes some people uncomfortable when they listen. He gave future composers permission to be themselves - a priceless gift. Can you imagine what phenomenal works he'd score for film and television? Lastly, if you want to hear and see what his early performances might have been like, check out the Re-sound Beethoven Project under Martin Haselböck and the Orchester Wiener Akademie. They play on period instruments, in the actual performance spaces and with the same orchestral layouts used by Beethoven himself. Thanks again to Aman for bringing the great man's music to more people. Nga mihi.
You think that Beethoven beat J.S. Bach at his own game, do you? You cite the fugue of the Hammerklavier Sonata as support for your position, but Beethoven himself said that he never wrote a good fugue in all his life. The fugue from op. 106 is just barely playable by human hands, and there is at least one passage that I would judge to be impossible to play. The subject of the fugue is harmonically ambiguous, having a very weak sense of direction. Bach, on the other hand, was the master of counterpoint.. I suggest you look at his Art of Fugue and his Musical Offering and then tell me that Beethoven surpassed Bach at his own game.
I will not write at length Re: the Wellingtons Sieg story [I can hear the cheers from here], but please do look up the full story. Who he was writing it for shows that Beethoven really was an artist for the people. Damn the aristocracy. Those soldiers for whom her wrote it would have never been anywhere near ANY music venue, much less full orchestral. It was written for their understanding first and foremost. Bravo Beethoven.
I agree that bach's is the first of all time and might be after that comes beethoven or mozart in the second rank but for me i see that bach music has unmatch to all other composers
Mate could you link a google drive of this video, original, no cuts of musics being played just pure original video please, i reminisce hearing of it pure, as when it was uploaded before the censored parts. Of this masterclass video on UA-cam. Please
Outstanding testimony to his greatness! Great job! Beethoven is still truly under rated....for his true genius and impact is still to be fully understood and appreciated!
Konrad I agree Beethoven is underrated ,many people just don't seem to realise or appreciate that his compositions are often so much more creative and expresses mankind's feelings and emotions far more than any other composer. Oh by the way he at times wrote the most beautiful music that rivals Mozart at his best.
In my opinion he IS the greatest composer of all time.
Without a doubt.
Absolutely!
Bach disapproves
@@Ramoneur73 Undoubtedly. :)
Yes he is. And Bach seems to be whispering in my ears: I thought I was... 😊
Without a doubt, the greatest composer ever to live.
That was absolutely outstanding. Thank you so much. For me, he is the greatest - and for the very reasons you expressed
Great documentary, and this is coming from someone with almost zero grasp on anything classical music. I know it’s been three years since you made this, but I think if you made more documentaries like this you would blow up. Great work, and thank you
Definitely Beethoven was and is and will be the greatest composer in the World. There is a lot of arguments to prove that. I mention only one of them: He is Pele but without legs and Muhammad Ali but without arms and Michelangelo but without eyes and Newton but without mind, and Chaplin but abed.
ALL OF THEM, PLUS SHAKESPEARE ETC, ROLLED INTO ONE! Modern day CHRIST!
Brilliant expose of a magnificent composer's ground-breaking works
Andrew I and so many countless numbers of classical music fans do NOT agree with the narrator we think absolutely Beethoven was the greatest composer of all time .
This Documentary is one of the best I've heard I was feeling down then I came across this. He did know his worth when you said he always stood what was right (Bravo) Thank you for this you cheered me up.
One of the most remarkable human beings that ever existed.
Beethoven probably the greatest Genius the world has ever seen and the most creative.
No, THE GREATEST HUMAN, EVER!
There are greater Alien composers on Proxima Centauri!
Head and shoulders above the rest - we may never see the like of him again.
Beethoven the greatest, yes, but Mozart's Prague symphony requires some explanation imo. Hell of a piece of music!
Trying to "get into" classical music is such a daunting endeavor because it's hard to know where to start, who was influenced and who did the influencing, and what exactly made certain composers special. This video wonderfully handles that and I appreciate your way of putting this music into context. Well played!
Just get absorbed into sound and let it take th reigns. Stay away from historical context. Its not even important who composed what, for it is God that creates and uses the musician as an instrument of his will.
Bravo reply, I listen to Beethoven for the beauty and genuise of his music when people tell me their problems I try to understand them then I say you think you have problems then I tell them about Beethoven their shocked when I tell them he composed music while death.
WELCOME! We love you and want you and your family and friends among us. You'll find much LOVE here especially among "BEETHOVENISTS", but also from MOZARTIANS.
As everyone else has said, this is one of the best short educational films that does a lot of work in 40 minutes. And then having the texts at the end--you are a lifesaver. Make more videos like this!!!
Aman! This is one of the most sensitive an intellectual comments about this great artist. Thanks.
Regarding music theory... Beethoven redefined the meaning and the use of both harmony and counterpoint, forever thereafter.
I was a kid and remained astonished when a music teacher of mine, told me that Beethoven was in company of three angels when he wrote his Fifth Simphony.
Possibly an unorthodox way of telling about Beethoven genius, but sometimes I still believe it was true...
you really helped me with writing my essay about the impact he made and his legacy, thank you!!
Indeed, the only one to even come close is Weird Al Yankovic, another musical genius.
Lmao
So perfect I cried a lot very well structured video thanks a lot 😢😿
I am applauding this video standing up... it is magnificent.
An ENORMOUS thank you. I have an academic background and have taken many university courses to help deepen my sense of Music Appreciation. None of those courses could hold a candle to this wonderful program that has been created and made available to us. Enduring Gratitude!
Glad it was helpful!
Utterly fantastic documentary you've made, concise, accessible incredibly engaging, thank you very much for making it I absolutely thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thank you so much!
Mozart. GOAT. Beethovan GOAT
I feel deeply that this - by far must be the best description or documentary of a man that indeed has changed the world. I wholeheartedly agree with every word of the narrator and how it all was pieced together. For that, let us have the "Ode to Joy"... Alle Menschen werden Brueder... now more important than ever. Namaste.
Thank you! He is my favorite composer of ALL time!
This was a phenomenal documentary of my favorite composer Ludwig van Beethoven! you have made me appreciate him even more! thank you a lot for putting this together.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agree. So much info condensed into 42 mins. I'd happily listen to a multi- hour series by Aman Trivedi on each of the "greats" and even the lesser known composers.
@@citrine615 thank you so much. My next one will be on bach and mathematics.
@@AmanDeepTrivedi classical music and mathematics, my favorite things in life!
@@rikjanvanschothorst1645 likewise :)
Yes, Beethoven never heard his ninth symphony with his own ears, but I'm sure that he heard something even greater in his mind, something which we are probably unable to even imagine, but hopefully not something he took into his grave with him forever.
Nah he wrote what his mind heard, he could remember notes and keys perfectly and so he composed while deaf
the four-note motif actually occurs even more frequently than you've shown, as the descending runs are phrased together in groups of four quavers, emphasis on the first.
The entire first theme is literally just those four note motifs
Even the lyrical second theme ultimately originates from that same motif via expansion out into fifths(horn call), inversion of first half(Going upwards to Eb instead of down) and adding some embellishing notes. So, even where it's not obvious to the ear that it's the same motif, it is.
In fact, I've heard some people describe the Fate Motif in the Fifth Symphony as being in generations, so like you have Generation 1 being the original descending thirds, then Generation 2 is that being developed into an arpeggio figure that runs through the first theme, then Generation 3 is the expanded version, the horn call, then Generation 4 is the lyrical second theme, then Generation 5 is that motif being broken down into a 2 note figure, then Generation 6 is further broken down to single notes and the whole first movement can be analyzed as a combination of these generations and various other developments of the motif.
And this motif I've also heard being described as the glue that holds the symphony together cause it shows up in all the movements, developed the heck out of in the first movement, at the transitions to the C major parts of the second movement, as a horn call in the third movement, and as an ascending and later descending scalar figure in the Finale.
Loved the way you focussed on the technique of his work and put it across in such a simple yet effective way. The genius of Beethoven was felt throughout. Great work Aman!!
What a great video! Thank you to give us a concise and extremely rich explanation of how Beethoven is unique. I'm totally convinced that it always takes a rebel to change the world. Further, Beethoven still proves that a handicap can become a powerful source of motivation to do something different and unique!
To be honest, I don’t know how you manage to do such good work every single time. ... in almost every creative field.....Very well done..!!!!
Despite his lamentations, Beethoven is one of the greatest artists who ever lived. How many people can change the world- in a beautiful way. inside a man was a world and he flew over it and shared his journey. I don't think he was ever aware of the effect he would have.
A real genius,indeed! God given his talent,the world should listen,my hope is we can listening in eternity,his music.He certainly gained his hearing,I am sure!
You're right. He would never have considered himself above others.
@@eloisem3214 Actually he considered himself above others and a lot of historical records show this. For example, in a letter he wrote "There are many princes and there will continue to be thousands more, but there is only one Beethoven".
Beethoven also hated Rossini works, and claimed that he or other italian composers could not rob him his place in history.
Beethoven was actually very arrogant, but had the skills to back it up
So glad to find this. Well done! Especially like the parts about Beethoven's personality. Beethoven was the greatest composer and the noblest human being among all the great composers. ❤️
Amazing and underrated video. Love that you give examples and let us listen.
What a beautiful film! My sister and I played the 5th Symphony record over and over when we were kids and danced and acted out our fantasies to it in the living room--using blankets etc for costumes (King's robe) - the last movement made us feel like royalty- Thanks for the farewell letter from Beethoven you showed at the end
He was a bright flame that many today in the heavy rock/metal communities would resonate with him
Absolutely, one of the finest films, of any kind, that I have seen. Superbly crafted and musically illustrated to perfection. Thank you for this wonderful contribution to music appreciation. I know it will go far in helping people understand the magnitude of Beethoven's vast legacy.
Wow, thank you!
This is a wonderful portrait of one famous composer in history. Thanks for the effort and dedication!
I do appreciate very much this documentary and much more appreciating my favorite classical composer Beethoven even more . . thank you Aman Trivedi for this I did learned more about this God given talent. .
Many thanks!
Wonderful overview of Beethoven, who is the GREATEST composer of all time, and it's not close. 200 years after his death his music still is the height of all most every category: piano music, symphonies, string quartet, piano concerto, violin concerto, etc. and his music is still the most played in concert halls. I've read 47 bios on Ludwig and, as you rightly point out, he overcame more issues than most anyone in history to create a body of work unparalled. I wrote and produced a play on his life and I'm producing a film about a pianist obsessed with Beethoven. Thanks for continuing to spread the legacy of Ludwig van Beethoven.
@James Karkas That comment about opus 111 is do perfectly true!
Ron Russell a truly great example is Beethovens piano concerto Number 3,3rd movement.Overall most of this is not up tempo ,Then the last 3 minutes he suddenly launches into the solo piano section which is so complex,so brilliant and so creative without doubt music from an artist of staggering genius the one and only Beethoven.
@@jameskarkas7465 I agree. Op 109,110,111 piano sonatas, The late string quartets, Sym #9, all the last works seem beyond the ability of a human being
Great thought on legends contribution
Wow, great explanations and insights. THX!
One of my favorite Peanuts Comics:
Schroeder was a huge Beethoven fan. Lucy says "tomorrow is Beethoven's birthday. what are you going to buy me?" Schroeder replies that he's not going to buy. her anything. "You don't care anything about Beethoven! You never have! You never cared that he suffered! Or that his stomach hurt! Or that he couldn't hear! You never cared that the countess turned him down, or that Therese married the Baron instead, or that Lobkowitz canceled his annuity!" And then Schroeder stormed off angrily.
Lucy then asked "If the countess hadn't turned him down, would you buy me something?"
For some reason, from 22:30 to 23:05 (the 4th mvt of the Fifth) your video doesn’t have any sound at all. It had sound when I first watched your video. Wonder if you would fix it? Thanks for your video!
what a genius, awe inspiring and moving.
Beautiful doc. Thanks
Beethoven is the greatest artist and composer ever produced by mankind. He is the music itself and the beginning and end of all art.
Very good analysis. Thank you very much :)
For more expressions of raw emotion from Mozart, take a listen of the Piano concerto in d minor K.466, or Symphony 39 (KV 543,) and you can't possibly listen to the great aria by the Queen of the Night in the Magic Flute and tell me it's nice and predictable. Acknowledging this takes nothing away from Beethoven's greatness.
Classical Music divides into two periods - before Beethoven and after Beethoven.
This video is very informing and inteligent in concept ans stile. I love Ludwigs works, it changed my life completely to the very day. When this started I did know nothing about him. It was the Eroica 4th movment. It was an Oboe that turned me upside down.
That last sentence is so beautifully perceptive!
you made this yourself? Jeeeez this is probably the best classical documentary Ive seen
This is well made, informative, and entertaining. Thank you for making this video essay. For me, Beethoven is my favorite composer and the one I relate and play most of his piano works, but objectively Bach is the greatest composer.
Thank you, I don't have a background in music so watching this helped me understand why I gravitate towards Beethoven during the dark periods of my life. His music can console like no other.
Yess, im my darkest times , Bethoveen has lifted my spirit like no other , soothing my pain.
To me, he was and always will be the greatest!
Regardless of what the commenter said, I think that Beethoven stands head and shoulders above them all.
That’s totally fair. Music should never be a boxing match - we all have our favourites ❤.
Jack Fletcher agreed Beethoven at his best towers over those other great composers.
@@AmanDeepTrivedi there are objective reasons. Taylor Swift never comes near Beethoven
Thank you for this insightful documentary. I love it. And Beethoven would be proud of your work.
Time Life made 33 rpm records one could buy for 99 cents each. I purchased all of Beethoven's symphonies this way when I was in my late teens. Ninety-nine cents for a complete work of Beethoven. I'm not sure whether Beethoven would have been enraged or overjoyed by this. I was most certainly blessed by it.
How would you rank Beethoven's symphonies? I'd go with:
1. 9th
2. 3rd
3. 5th
4. 6th
5. 7th
6. 8th
7. 4th
8. 1st
9. 2nd
9th and 3rd are so universally acclaimed, that's it's not a surprise, 9th has more of the grandeur that I find more appealing. I had a harder time picking between 5th, 6th, and 7th. 5th has absolutely legendary outer movements, so I picked it 3rd, while the 6th is strong overall with a more gentle mood when, 7th maybe has the most rousing final movement after incredible movements 1 and 2. 8th is very cleverly composed, but lacks any proper slow movement, 4th has an amazing fast part of the 1st movement, but it doesn't strike that deeply emotionally. Symphonies 1st and 2nd aren't as good as the rest, they have more classical period characteristics. Early piano sonatas by Beethoven are already very strong musically, but he truly found his very own orchestral language in the 3rd symphony. 1st has more compelling subjects than the 2nd for me. , I know you like the 2nd more.
That’s an interesting ranking. For me, it would go:
1. 7th
2. 6th
3. 5th
4. 9th
5. 3rd
6. 8th
7. 4th
8. 2nd
9. 1st
For me, 7th is undoubtedly on top of the list for various reasons not the least of which is the brilliant second movement.
Pastoral, Fifth and Ninth are somewhat equal for me but if I was to rank them, I would go with pastoral over the other two. It’s just so beautifully put together and I love how each movement transitions into another like a well structured story.
I’m not very fond of the Eroica but I still like it more than his remaining symphonies, with first being my least favourite of the lot.
@@AmanDeepTrivedi www.theguardian.com/music/2016/aug/04/beethoven-eroica-greatest-symphony-vote-bbc-mozart-mahler
@@Ludwig55555 Oh wow. I’m actually surprised that the fifth didn’t make it to the list where as the Jupiter did. Don’t get me wrong: I absolutely love the 41st symphony, I just didn’t know it was that popular amongst classical listeners as compared to Mozart’s other symphonic works.
For me personally, except for the 41st, neither of Mozart’s symphonies would make it on a personal top 10 list; it would probably be flooded with Beethoven, Mahler and Tchaikovsky. Lol. Conversely, if I made the same list for concertos, Mozart would be nearly everywhere on the list.
It's a tie between the third and the ninth. But they are all so different they defy comparison to each other. Because he broke ground with the third, I have to go with that one as the greatest symphony ever written.
9, 3, 7, 5, 6, 8, 1, 2, 4 (more or less) ... Piano Concerti 5, 4, 3, 1, 2 - love them all!
Just think. He became world famous at t time of no radiono CDs and no telly.
Thank you so much for the excellent video that helped me to learn more about Beethovan and his music!
Wait, what about the grosse fugue??!? That's really Beethoven most transcendental piece!
One huge achievement is also that all his 32 piano sonatas, 9 symphonies, 5 piano concertos, all his string quartets, etc. Are really very different and almost perfect already with op. 1 till the very end
He never settled on previous successes, he kept moving forward!
Great video - loved learning about his personality.
Listening to Mozart is painful, airy fairy music, after hearing Beethoven who put images and emotions into music, ( yet he himself could not hear )
I swear
Why?
@@vladof_putler because you're comparing the happy jolly music of a kid with that of a masterfully created emotional, innovative music that digs deep into your soul.
@@carlosc2229 Nah, it depends on your mood. I prefer Mozart while doing stuff and sometimes I prefer Beethoven.
@@carlosc2229 exactly - so well put!
Nice discussion! I would love to know whose recording you chose of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement because it's the best I've ever heard (and I have listened to dozens and dozens of it).
It’s by Peter Nagy - as far as I remember but I could be wrong.
I think e.g. Emil Gilels records much better, more dynamic.
His DEPTH is Undescribable.
Here are some of his most famous works:
Fur Elise
Ode To Joy
Pastorale 6th Symphony
5th Symphony
A truly wonderful presentation..many thanks for your hard work...
I really like Beethoven. I really like this video too.
They should show your video in music history classes in college. Brings me back to the movie "Room With A View" where the girl only wanted to play Beethoven, to get her frustration out-- to which her mom and aunt were worried by- why this girl has to play all this "depressing" music?
Bravo! This was fabulous!
Great video, please make more like this!.
Yes I will! Thank you so much :)
Superb documentary, well appreciated
No - THE GREATEST HUMAN, PERIOD! Who ELSE could compose something like MARCIA FUNEBRE from the EROICA?
Very deep and informative. Thanks.
I don't like Beethoven, because his music is angry. And he was angry. Angry music is too negative to my taste.
@@seanleith5312 You have listened too shallowly. Beethoven's music always trends toward light and joy; any anger is transitory. And his late music transcends even joy - it looks straight into the light and echoes it back to us so we too can glimpse it.
Listen to the piano sonatas. Cycle through all of them many times, if you have the patience. I bet that if you do, you will see what I mean and will hear what so many of us hear.
he really is the best of all time!😀😍
The Triumph of the Human spirit 💖👏✨
Hold its place on the phantom of the God of Music forever ✨
Sublime is his music just the idea that He conveyed feelings 6:40 into Music it’s extraordinary !…..crating a new sense of cognition 🦋
I can go on and on it touches my Soul
Thank you Maestro 🙏
The extraordinary idea is that I’m not a musician !
But I can translate music into Color ……🤔🤫
Really great job on this
great documentary!!!
Ode to Joy. That's how this video deserved to end ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Very nice! Thanks por posting.
Beethoven, Bach and Mozart the top 3. With Beethoven edging out Bach as the most influential.
I agree, but also include Chopin
@@nameschname6450not in the top 3 lol
Great video! Excellent research!
Kia ora fellow Beethoven fans. Firstly, thanks to Aman for this accessible piece. Although I enjoyed it immensely, I think you could have done so much more than put excerpts from the Choral Symphony at the end. How about how he beat J S Bach at his own game (Hammerklavier 4th Movement), and introduced something which sounds like a forerunner of ragtime (2nd movement Piano Sonata Op. 111), and so much more all the while knowing he was writing for future musicians and not for his contemporaries. Reference his response to a friend who complained about the difficult passage in String Quartet Op. 135 2nd movement (the part in A if memory serves). "I can't think of your violin while I'm communicating with God."
I think Beethoven was the complete composer. All good composers ask something of our ears. But Beethoven goes further. He teaches (if that's what you want), but I think he also makes demands of your soul, which is perhaps why he makes some people uncomfortable when they listen. He gave future composers permission to be themselves - a priceless gift. Can you imagine what phenomenal works he'd score for film and television? Lastly, if you want to hear and see what his early performances might have been like, check out the Re-sound Beethoven Project under Martin Haselböck and the Orchester Wiener Akademie. They play on period instruments, in the actual performance spaces and with the same orchestral layouts used by Beethoven himself. Thanks again to Aman for bringing the great man's music to more people. Nga mihi.
You think that Beethoven beat J.S. Bach at his own game, do you? You cite the fugue of the Hammerklavier Sonata as support for your position, but Beethoven himself said that he never wrote a good fugue in all his life. The fugue from op. 106 is just barely playable by human hands, and there is at least one passage that I would judge to be impossible to play. The subject of the fugue is harmonically ambiguous, having a very weak sense of direction. Bach, on the other hand, was the master of counterpoint.. I suggest you look at his Art of Fugue and his Musical Offering and then tell me that Beethoven surpassed Bach at his own game.
Only one mistake. The answer to the last question is YES
Anyone know the name of the piece at the beginning of this video - from which sonata? thanks
Only the most profound genius……. Not to mention his influence on the development of the modern piano.
Thank you so much.
6:45 ahh all that flag is lacking is the blue wheel....
Love and greetings from a compatriot
Mozart and "Heedin"? (Haydn)
He also got a friend to invent the metronome
I will not write at length Re: the Wellingtons Sieg story [I can hear the cheers from here], but please do look up the full story. Who he was writing it for shows that Beethoven really was an artist for the people. Damn the aristocracy. Those soldiers for whom her wrote it would have never been anywhere near ANY music venue, much less full orchestral. It was written for their understanding first and foremost. Bravo Beethoven.
Thank you!
Amazing video, make more ffs
I’m coming out with one on J.S Bach super soon. You can expect it by the next fortnight. :)
@@AmanDeepTrivedi YES!!!!!!!
Strangly my 1st contact with Mozart was the 40th symphony and the d minor concerto, not at at happy music
He is music
I agree that bach's is the first of all time and might be after that comes beethoven or mozart in the second rank but for me i see that bach music has unmatch to all other composers
Why from 22m24s ti 23m05s the sound disappears? Can one fix this?
Beethoven and Hendrix top dawgs...
Mate could you link a google drive of this video, original, no cuts of musics being played just pure original video please, i reminisce hearing of it pure, as when it was uploaded before the censored parts. Of this masterclass video on UA-cam. Please
For sure brother. Drop me a mail on trivedijyoti1234@gmail.com