Just started a new game using Traverse the Ulvenwald as the only tree mod and I am LOVING it. Very different from other tree mods, lots of different tress and hauntingly beautiful! Even the Reach trees look lovely
@@cdubya586 Happy Little Trees (HLT) is very performance friendly, it was the top tree mods for last years, but now there's photorealistics mods like Nature of the wild lands, that are very stunning but more heavy in performances. Still Simply Bigger Trees is interesting as an alternative to HLT, it can be used with some HD barks and branches mods. Worth a try. Actually I use Nature of the wild land, with very optimized ini files and dyndolods, that the best stunning trees I ever seen so far.
Traverse the Ulvenwald is the best when it comes to visuals vs performance. Any thing that looks better will burn an average GPU on an high end ENB. My only gripe with TTU is the aspens. Rift looks much better with so many other mods with equal performance impact. The latest version of PI-CHO ENB combined with this tree mod, Folkvangr grass and some latest complex terrain textures will give you the most ultimate next gen visuals, almost mimicking those generated with Real Engine 5.
I really love Nature of The Wild Lands for its underbrush meshes and bark textures, but damn does hit performance pretty hard. It also requires DynDOLOD, which is a finicky bag of ass. Happy Little Trees was a very suitable replacement because it looks almost as good and doesn't require a hot garbage LOD loader.
Currently using a combination of Veydgold, Veydogolt-extra trees, and all the Nature of the Wildland mods among other vegetation, landscape and grass mods like Origins of Forest, etc. It looks stunning. Was also using Jedi trees before, but some of the clipping got a bit annoying and I wanted to try something different so I swapped it out. However, after just looking into Traverse the Ulvenwald in Nexus I might just fire up my texgen and dyndolod again, haha. It looks good in the video here, but actually checking out the footage in the nexus is nothing short of mindblowing.
4:05 This made me realize that having a full canopy over your head is both rare even for the most popular tree mods and very impactful for feeling in a real forest. Lots of tree mods make them taller but if you look up you still see the sky. eg blubbos Aspen replacer
@@gelbsnk I'm not an expert, but to my understanding a skinned model is basically a model with a skeleton included. For example, all the actors are skinned. The vanilla trees are skinned too. What it means in practice is that the trees can be animated. Only skinned models can have animations beyond some basic leaf anims. Therefore only Happy Little Trees has trees with swaying animations. All the other tree mods have leaf anims (like rustling branches) at best, some are completely static.
@@Blackread actually I think Myrkvior also has them... I've been using it for a long time and it looks fantastic! My only issue is the heavy snowy pines which I replace with HLT pines.
I personally gravitate to either of these config that balances original Skyrim visuals and performance: HLT (with HLT shrubs) + Aspens Ablaze (autumnal variety, normal size) EVT + RAT (I use the lush variant of EVT with one of its alternative pines version, can't remember it's variant 3 or variant 4)
Indeed. Nature of the Wild Lands is my favourite and hands down the best and realistic looking mod out there. I was having a blast until I got to the denser forest areas and went from 70fps to like 20 lol I was in denial for a while haha but had to come to terms that you've gotta have a higher end pc for that
@@EmeraldBayMovies not powerful at all lol I've only tried running it on my older laptop which has i5 cpu and gt 970 gpu. Seems like you definitely should be able to run it on yours. I'm personally building a new pc with a 13th gen cpu and rx 6800 xt, will be trying that same mod out (:
I've never laughed so hard and appreciated a video ever lol! Not sure which to choose, they each have their own strengths. I've been using 3d trees and plants, but it's only because I'm afraid to switch
@@Reyajh Me neither until I saw it featured in one of the modders I follow! Check out Mern, he’s got some great suggested mods in his vids Amazing showcase btw @PixelStoryz !
definitely is pretty good, but the fps hit is pretty rough. I got better performance from SFO trees. Nature of the Wilds looks pretty nice tho I wonder how the fps will be
I had been using Skyrim Flora Overhaul from since it was first released but with my new graphics card upgrade I finally ley it go. I am very happy with my Nature of the Wild Lands+Enhanced Landscape combination now! Though Traverse the Ulvenwald looks fantastic too.
love the showcase i never can decide between nature of the wild lands and treerific obviously paired with origins of forest and either folkvanr or tamrielic grass
I think this is a great comparison video! For years I just used Enhanced Vanilla Trees but I switched to SFO with a bark texture replacer and looks great with 60 fps on my 1070. I can't even run an ENB.
graphic card has nothing to do with it, I got 1070 and game runs smoothly with enb and Traverse the Ulvenwald. You need 16 gb ram and good processor to max out your graphic card potency.
@@ZephrusPrime clean up the dirt from your computer then 🤣 cause I got 16gb ram, i5 2600 and gtx 1070 and my game (with enb and 2k retexture mod) runs in 50-60 fps in the wilds and 40 fps in the big cities
@@1758what trees you use? SFO has been my go to in every play thru, but i’m thinking of trying something else for my new pc and fresh skyrim install i’ll be modding
Man im always undecided between trees and weathers mods... they are all beautiful. Treerific is gorgeous, looks bit "fairy tale". I really would like a mod that makes the rift more autumn like and with bigger trees. I think Aspen Ablaze works very well on this matter, there is also a mod that mix it with Happy Little Trees, i need to try it out.
When the showcase started I was surprised by how good the vanilla trees actually looked. I don't care too much for being obsessed with Vanilla+ game play, but in this case I... like vanilla trees the best???? That being said, no matter what tree mod you have, your game looks 50 times more beautiful than mine! I think it's the lighting. Care to let us know what weather/ENB combo you're using? I'm using Azurite + picho ENB but willing to change to whatever you have!
honestly Happy Little Trees and Nature of the Wildlands came out swinging in this video. Also. I'll be sure to avoid Treerific like the plague lmao. Also the little LOL when NotWL placed a dead tree smack dab in the front of the cam was funny.
I use treerific and its fine, im not sure why theirs kept crashing. The only problem I've had with it is an invisible log mesh/nif update: I checked and its the bark hotfix, I use it so I didn't get crashes but without it you can crash. A lot of people don't seem to notice the hotfix is there under optional files
Happy little trees is pretty consistent. That and Aspens ablaze are in my load order. I want to use Blubblo's whiterun 2022. I use trees in cities right now, but I'm wondering if it's worth going a complete blubblo replace. I'm not postive if Blubblo's trees are compatible with seasons of skyrim.
For pure realism across the board, I am going with Simply Bigger Trees. A close second would be Nature of the Wild Lands. As a runner up for realism, I was pleasantly surprised by LushAMP - Denser Vanilla Trees. Thank you very much for the video!
Many pretty mods here. Not one bad. Some were a little invasive. I would worry about trees blocking quests and such. I liked "Ulwenvald" or what it was called... But I'm sticking with the latest SFO. And I'm a northern Swede so I guess I'm biased on the look. Looks like an old forest up here. Some tree trunks are ugly up close and the big pines are static even with "Skyrim is windy". Could have used greater Pine variation also. Other that that I love the mod. And because of the ground work with flowers and plants and the excellent choice of colouring and placement, I 'm having trouble leaving this mod.
3D trees and plants has the best bark texture by a mile, the evergreen variant is 100% photorealistic especially in Riverwood and Falkreath regions, literally chefs kiss. aspen variety could use some work. Happy little trees def the most consistent tree replacement mod and every model fits each respective environment. Honorable mention for simply bigger trees, honestly sometimes having them bigger is all you need. Nature of the wild lands easily the largest tree mod install eating up all of your available VRAM, even on a fresh install of skyrim with just that mod the game always CTDs without fail on my 4080.
It's a matter of tastes but a combination of Happy Little Trees and Shrubs, with excerpts from Mari's Flora ed EEK's Flora with Tree Bark 4k-k is the best hands down.
i like almost all of them except veydogold and blubbos, theyre fine in some areas but in most i find them too fat/ not fitting skyrim i personally currently use flora overhaul but will eventually switch to nature of the wild lands as i like the looks and find it realistic and on top of that high quality
shame jedi trees didnt feature, i think im sticking with nature of the wildlands for now, but the uvlenwald one looked pretty decent too. that one goes well with seasons of skyrim too right?
Guys I've been using happy little tree with SFO summer edition. It's been great but If the tree is far awat and not loaded yet, it becomes bad low resolution vanilla tree, can someone sugest me how to fix it, thx anyway
You should try to combine them But in general you should see compatibility between mods (many of these mods are generic and add a lot of tree variation making it hard for any of them to work with each other)
Skyrim is a Nordic-inspired game, so the game's vegetation reasoning applied to the reality of the Nordic countries have subalpine coniferous forests; some mods make Skyrim too much like a tropical region.
Markarth - Blubbo's Trees Windhelm, Morthal, Winterhold - Ulvenwald Falkreath, Morthal, Solitude, Riften - Nature of the Wild Lands [ + Enhanced Landscapes (excluding Riften & Falkreath) ] If you have the patience it's super worth combining them to different holds in xEdit. It's such a treat.
My favorite is Flora Overhaul. This mods gives very lush and big trees bit still keeps Skyrim vibes. And it is not very heavy. Really don't like 3D Trees.
Skyrim Grass Mods Comparison : ua-cam.com/video/H5DGIZjNmUk/v-deo.html
Just started a new game using Traverse the Ulvenwald as the only tree mod and I am LOVING it. Very different from other tree mods, lots of different tress and hauntingly beautiful! Even the Reach trees look lovely
Yep, Traverse the Ulvenwald is nice, except its snow pines that looks too flat, comparing Happy Little Trees.
How did it affect your frame rate?
@@cdubya586 Happy Little Trees (HLT) is very performance friendly, it was the top tree mods for last years, but now there's photorealistics mods like Nature of the wild lands, that are very stunning but more heavy in performances. Still Simply Bigger Trees is interesting as an alternative to HLT, it can be used with some HD barks and branches mods. Worth a try. Actually I use Nature of the wild land, with very optimized ini files and dyndolods, that the best stunning trees I ever seen so far.
Traverse the Ulvenwald is the best when it comes to visuals vs performance. Any thing that looks better will burn an average GPU on an high end ENB. My only gripe with TTU is the aspens. Rift looks much better with so many other mods with equal performance impact.
The latest version of PI-CHO ENB combined with this tree mod, Folkvangr grass and some latest complex terrain textures will give you the most ultimate next gen visuals, almost mimicking those generated with Real Engine 5.
I really love Nature of The Wild Lands for its underbrush meshes and bark textures, but damn does hit performance pretty hard. It also requires DynDOLOD, which is a finicky bag of ass. Happy Little Trees was a very suitable replacement because it looks almost as good and doesn't require a hot garbage LOD loader.
A mix of Happy Little Trees, Nature of the Wildlands and Aspens Ablaze is perfect for me.
Happy is too bright brown and the leaves are too bright green
Best middleground graphics + performance = Ulvenwald
More graphics = Nature of the Wilds
More Performance = Happy little trees
Your mod showcase style is very unique and soothing. Looking forward to your future uploads!
Thank you :)
Currently using a combination of Veydgold, Veydogolt-extra trees, and all the Nature of the Wildland mods among other vegetation, landscape and grass mods like Origins of Forest, etc. It looks stunning. Was also using Jedi trees before, but some of the clipping got a bit annoying and I wanted to try something different so I swapped it out. However, after just looking into Traverse the Ulvenwald in Nexus I might just fire up my texgen and dyndolod again, haha. It looks good in the video here, but actually checking out the footage in the nexus is nothing short of mindblowing.
4:05 This made me realize that having a full canopy over your head is both rare even for the most popular tree mods and very impactful for feeling in a real forest. Lots of tree mods make them taller but if you look up you still see the sky. eg blubbos Aspen replacer
Sooo true! I thought the exact same thing. Not a lot of games get it right.
Nice video! I think Happy Little Trees is the only one with skinned models, which makes it pretty much win by default.
wdym with skinned models?
@@gelbsnk I'm not an expert, but to my understanding a skinned model is basically a model with a skeleton included. For example, all the actors are skinned. The vanilla trees are skinned too.
What it means in practice is that the trees can be animated. Only skinned models can have animations beyond some basic leaf anims. Therefore only Happy Little Trees has trees with swaying animations. All the other tree mods have leaf anims (like rustling branches) at best, some are completely static.
thanks a lot. now i got it
@@Blackread actually I think Myrkvior also has them... I've been using it for a long time and it looks fantastic! My only issue is the heavy snowy pines which I replace with HLT pines.
@@tinman3000 Could be, the mod page is quite vague on that front.
Came for the comparison, left with a breathtaking cinematic
A really great video. So many different styles of trees and each mod has its own beautiful look. I love this creativity of all tree mods. 😊
Oh wow, great to hear from you. Thanks for your great mods :)
@@pixelstoryzzz 😊
I personally gravitate to either of these config that balances original Skyrim visuals and performance:
HLT (with HLT shrubs) + Aspens Ablaze (autumnal variety, normal size)
EVT + RAT (I use the lush variant of EVT with one of its alternative pines version, can't remember it's variant 3 or variant 4)
Nothing can beat Nature of the Wilds if your system can handle running it.
Indeed. Nature of the Wild Lands is my favourite and hands down the best and realistic looking mod out there. I was having a blast until I got to the denser forest areas and went from 70fps to like 20 lol I was in denial for a while haha but had to come to terms that you've gotta have a higher end pc for that
@@diomed96 I'm also holding out hope that one day he'll update it with Season of Skyrim support too.
@@diomed96 How powerful is your PC. I just upgraded to a 3080/13700k build and I'm wondering if I could run it
@@EmeraldBayMovies not powerful at all lol I've only tried running it on my older laptop which has i5 cpu and gt 970 gpu.
Seems like you definitely should be able to run it on yours. I'm personally building a new pc with a 13th gen cpu and rx 6800 xt, will be trying that same mod out (:
No way should u be that broke, the 970 dropped late 2014 man get a job
I see there was no mention of 'Fabled Forests' in any of these mods. The one I'm currently using
Its too goated 😒
I've never laughed so hard and appreciated a video ever lol! Not sure which to choose, they each have their own strengths. I've been using 3d trees and plants, but it's only because I'm afraid to switch
Thanks :)))
I think the only problem with 3D trees and plants is that it does not work with Skyrim is Windy.
There's also Wigfrid Tree Replacer for those seeking for something like Ulvenwald (Same author) but way more fantasy-ish. Absolutely recommended!
Thanks for recommendation :)
Incredible video, love the production quality and the music makes it so anime lol.
Appreciate it :)
This is a really well done comparison video. Hope you'll do more of these. Weathers would be nice ❤
OMG!!! The Skyfall Tree Mashup just updated and it’s a 5 star!!!
Thank you for the comparison. This really help me alot
Veydogolt is simply one of the most underrated tree mods of Skyrim modding history
I never heard of it but simply loved every single shot of it here... Gotta try it asap!!!
@@Reyajh Me neither until I saw it featured in one of the modders I follow! Check out Mern, he’s got some great suggested mods in his vids
Amazing showcase btw @PixelStoryz !
I didn't like the snow trees
definitely is pretty good, but the fps hit is pretty rough. I got better performance from SFO trees. Nature of the Wilds looks pretty nice tho I wonder how the fps will be
I had been using Skyrim Flora Overhaul from since it was first released but with my new graphics card upgrade I finally ley it go.
I am very happy with my Nature of the Wild Lands+Enhanced Landscape combination now!
Though Traverse the Ulvenwald looks fantastic too.
love the showcase
i never can decide between nature of the wild lands and treerific
obviously paired with origins of forest and either folkvanr or tamrielic grass
I think this is a great comparison video! For years I just used Enhanced Vanilla Trees but I switched to SFO with a bark texture replacer and looks great with 60 fps on my 1070. I can't even run an ENB.
graphic card has nothing to do with it, I got 1070 and game runs smoothly with enb and Traverse the Ulvenwald. You need 16 gb ram and good processor to max out your graphic card potency.
@@1758 I have 32 gigs ram and an i7. When I use an ENB I lose 15-20 frames.
@@ZephrusPrime clean up the dirt from your computer then 🤣 cause I got 16gb ram, i5 2600 and gtx 1070 and my game (with enb and 2k retexture mod) runs in 50-60 fps in the wilds and 40 fps in the big cities
@@1758what trees you use? SFO has been my go to in every play thru, but i’m thinking of trying something else for my new pc and fresh skyrim install i’ll be modding
@@_N4VE_ Traverse the Ulvenwald
Man im always undecided between trees and weathers mods... they are all beautiful.
Treerific is gorgeous, looks bit "fairy tale". I really would like a mod that makes the rift more autumn like and with bigger trees. I think Aspen Ablaze works very well on this matter, there is also a mod that mix it with Happy Little Trees, i need to try it out.
I LOVE Dark Ages Trees of North, still my favorite. I would love to be able to use those textures and make them taller.
When the showcase started I was surprised by how good the vanilla trees actually looked. I don't care too much for being obsessed with Vanilla+ game play, but in this case I... like vanilla trees the best???? That being said, no matter what tree mod you have, your game looks 50 times more beautiful than mine! I think it's the lighting. Care to let us know what weather/ENB combo you're using?
I'm using Azurite + picho ENB but willing to change to whatever you have!
Oh really sorry for late reply :(
It is Rudy ENB for Cathedral Weathers
Using the nature of the wildlands, love it, sadly I see the Blubbos trees are so underrated, but to me sometimes seens even better than Ulvenwald.
Thanks for this! Nature of the Wildlands ftw!
Currently using Fabled Forests, it's insanely good and performs well too.
honestly Happy Little Trees and Nature of the Wildlands came out swinging in this video. Also. I'll be sure to avoid Treerific like the plague lmao. Also the little LOL when NotWL placed a dead tree smack dab in the front of the cam was funny.
I use treerific and its fine, im not sure why theirs kept crashing. The only problem I've had with it is an invisible log mesh/nif
update: I checked and its the bark hotfix, I use it so I didn't get crashes but without it you can crash. A lot of people don't seem to notice the hotfix is there under optional files
Happy little trees is pretty consistent. That and Aspens ablaze are in my load order. I want to use Blubblo's whiterun 2022. I use trees in cities right now, but I'm wondering if it's worth going a complete blubblo replace. I'm not postive if Blubblo's trees are compatible with seasons of skyrim.
I use Happy Little Trees, Mari's Flora and Skoglendi for grass and I'm loving how the foliage in my world looks.
Great :)
For pure realism across the board, I am going with Simply Bigger Trees.
A close second would be Nature of the Wild Lands.
As a runner up for realism, I was pleasantly surprised by LushAMP - Denser Vanilla Trees.
Thank you very much for the video!
Thanks for watching :)
I wish that any of them had higher resolution lower limbs because thats what you actually see up close, from a distance they all look fine.
I love Happy Little Trees
Yeah they aren't very realistic looking, they are realistic enough. They look good. They perform good.
for some reasons skyrim playerbase really love nature
And again watching one of your usefull videos ! 😚
Thanks for the great video, very helpful. I wish you would have included a section on The Reach, though.
Gonna try it in the next run thanks
happy trees and nature of the wild are my faves going off this
then maybe bigger trees or denser vanilla after those
dark forests looks best for the dead trees though, go figure
I love Dark Ages Trees of the North still. The bark is A+, but I love the variety in bundled mods.
Watched 3 times in a row. You have good taste!
Awesome showcase.
Nature of the Wild Lands + Happy Little Trees (Pines Only) 👌
Many pretty mods here. Not one bad. Some were a little invasive. I would worry about trees blocking quests and such.
I liked "Ulwenvald" or what it was called...
But I'm sticking with the latest SFO. And I'm a northern Swede so I guess I'm biased on the look. Looks like an old forest up here.
Some tree trunks are ugly up close and the big pines are static even with "Skyrim is windy". Could have used greater Pine variation also.
Other that that I love the mod. And because of the ground work with flowers and plants and the excellent choice of colouring and placement, I 'm having trouble leaving this mod.
This made me decide I need Veydogolt
Very well made great vid
This was beautiful!
3D trees and plants has the best bark texture by a mile, the evergreen variant is 100% photorealistic especially in Riverwood and Falkreath regions, literally chefs kiss. aspen variety could use some work.
Happy little trees def the most consistent tree replacement mod and every model fits each respective environment.
Honorable mention for simply bigger trees, honestly sometimes having them bigger is all you need.
Nature of the wild lands easily the largest tree mod install eating up all of your available VRAM, even on a fresh install of skyrim with just that mod the game always CTDs without fail on my 4080.
love this video, could you do a similar one for grass mods as well?
Of course, if my computer doesn't explode XD
It's a matter of tastes but a combination of Happy Little Trees and Shrubs, with excerpts from Mari's Flora ed EEK's Flora with Tree Bark 4k-k is the best hands down.
I think that 3D trees and plants and Blubbos are the best looking in the video. But all of them are fine.
i like almost all of them except veydogold and blubbos, theyre fine in some areas but in most i find them too fat/ not fitting skyrim
i personally currently use flora overhaul but will eventually switch to nature of the wild lands as i like the looks and find it realistic and on top of that high quality
Using HLT, Blubbos, Aspen Ablaze right now. Perfect trio imho. The other mods lods are meh.
shame jedi trees didnt feature,
i think im sticking with nature of the wildlands for now, but the uvlenwald one looked pretty decent too. that one goes well with seasons of skyrim too right?
Sorry for the late reply
In description was said it is seasons compatible
What was I seeing at the beginning the ASPENS? That's what I want .
It is Treerific :)
Happy Little Trees are best because they can be scaled and have good performance.
I like the one where it blows up my computer
Thank You!!! Traverse The Ulvenwald!!
It's been so long since I used it that that Vanilla actually looks refreshingly good? What the hell lol.
Exactly XD
It's simple and efficient
No unnecessary image
🎉
Guys I've been using happy little tree with SFO summer edition. It's been great but If the tree is far awat and not loaded yet, it becomes bad low resolution vanilla tree, can someone sugest me how to fix it, thx anyway
Amazing thank you
simply amazing
What tree mods or combination is being used in your intro?
Thanks.
Salam mard
be tartib : Blubbos PineTreeReplacer V3 - Skyrim Flora Overhaul - Treerific - Dark Forests of Skyrim
I liked denser vanilla trees the most.
Is there a way to only keep certain trees from a specific mod, lets say the snow trees of X (to overwrite the snow trees of another mod)?
You should try to combine them
But in general you should see compatibility between mods (many of these mods are generic and add a lot of tree variation making it hard for any of them to work with each other)
@@pixelstoryzzz Turns out there's a Snow Trees Only optional file on Veydogolt's mod page! :D
Skyrim is a Nordic-inspired game, so the game's vegetation reasoning applied to the reality of the Nordic countries have subalpine coniferous forests; some mods make Skyrim too much like a tropical region.
That's why you can do anything in Skyrim thanks to modding :)
yep some mods break immersion
if you have reasonable knowledge.
Markarth - Blubbo's Trees
Windhelm, Morthal, Winterhold - Ulvenwald
Falkreath, Morthal, Solitude, Riften - Nature of the Wild Lands
[ + Enhanced Landscapes (excluding Riften & Falkreath) ]
If you have the patience it's super worth combining them to different holds in xEdit. It's such a treat.
bro idk how to use xEdit but I'm sure you'd get popular if you would made such a patch
Where is the place that is at 3:40?
Riften city entrance :)
I love these mods
Skyrim Flora Overhaul is still King and will always stay King.
Vanilla is the best overall visual and performance friendly. Many mods have way too many vertices that are unnecessary.
Can you compare Aspens of Skyrim too please?
Well, this video includes aspen trees, but for an individual video, it depends on the views of this video
Sfo is the best in my opinion.
IMO Traverse the Ulvenwald wins due to its seasons of skyrim compatibility. Otherwise NOTW is definitely the best one
watching this video made me realize that I probably shouldn't be running 5 tree mods 😅
Now, if only this had 3D LODs or at least hybrid LODs. Thats the only thing keeping me from using this mod.
just use all a say bye bye to you pc while in falkreath
we need skyrim le (oldrim) tree mods hun se has plenty of tree mods
well forget this video ever existed.
Why did my Skyrim look like my desktop? Oh, wait..😅😅😅
:)))
Divine trees is a good Xbox tree mod.
Ugh I can never find a tree mod I actually like.
:(
Check out Treerific, It looks very natural and the leaves are the main thing going for me
My favorite is Flora Overhaul. This mods gives very lush and big trees bit still keeps Skyrim vibes. And it is not very heavy.
Really don't like 3D Trees.
For me treerific is the best tree mod out there..but idk why it keep crashing my game...
yep :(
caribou gone for oldrim
Trees of iduno is king
❤❤❤
Hands down to Happy Little Trees. I feel it like Vanilla ++. It works great with Trees Addon.
Skyrim ultra lag edition :D
Very true XD
Crazy how to this day IMHO nothing quite beats Skyrim Flora Overhaul
Happy little trees by FAR on xbox and pc for me. Its amazing!
Just from this video bigger trees was the best the rest of you are blind
caribou gone for oldrim