Priests React to Jordan Peterson's Comments on Catholicism
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He's such a lovely soul. Not affraid to show emotions in public. He's a real man. He'd make a great addition to our faith. God bless him! ❤🇨🇦
I think it's beautiful , and it says so much about their marriage that she came into the church with full confidence that her husband would support her. And although he's not there yet.He stood beside her holding a candle. So very beautiful. ❤
My husband was the same. I entered the Catholic church Easter 2022 and my husband was fully supportive. A year later he himself was baptised. I have faith that Jordan will soon join Tammy in the Catholic Church.
Many prayers that this will be the case.🙏
Bergoglio Is not making it any easier for him to make that decision!
I thought Jordan was brought up as a catholic , something I heard . .?
I love that! ❤️
Fr. Walsh. What I just witnessed as a former psych nurse and cradle Catholic from Dr. Peterson, was not pain. It was not jealousy. It was not envy. It was the true and unadulterated ideal love of God. To have so much love for the other was undeniable. Maybe, some of the emotion he felt was "I wish I could be there with her", but not an envy wish but a greatful wish and definately, pure and utterly joy of the grace his wife had received.
So beautifully put-I agree w/you
As a retired psychotherapist I fully agree with you. :) Shalom
Absolutely.
Excellent reply! NACN-USA. Join us!! 🙏
National Association of Catholic Nurses, USA- NACN-USA❤
Another convert here. Whatever I lost is nothing in comparison to what I’ve gained. Like Paul I forget the things behind & reach for the things ahead. Thank you for your ministry.🙏❤️
You are welcome, glad you enjoyed the video!
Welcome home to the household of God ❤
Catholics are so deceived. Only the work of the Holy Spirit can help this demonic deception.
ALLELUIA
What you have lost is the assurance of salvation. The assurance that the apostle John talks about in his gospel. You don't even have assurance of getting out of that mythical purgatory. You are now part of the biggest deception known as Catholicism.
Perhaps we all need to pray for Jordan Peterson and his journey, his road has been tough already....
Cradle Catholic here . Dr. Petersen , we’d love you to join our Catholic community . You’re a good example as a loving supportive husband . Carry on ……
Converted in 09 and never looked back…
Welcome home!
Wow, that's awesome! You've been Home ever since! God bless you! 🙏🏼
Converted and became Orthodox.
I became a confirmed Catholic in 2015 at Easter Vigil Mass. Prior to my conversion to the one true faith, I was a Calvinist for 15 years and before that a fallen away Pentecostal believer. My family initially opposed my decision to become Catholic but they eventually came to accept it as a fact. What I lost was a few friends. What I gained was the full communion of faith known throughout the world. I went through the annulment process and was married in the Catholic Church to my Filipina wife. I think Dr. Peterson is going to buckle and convert at the right time. When your wife is Catholic and you are on the fence, it is an uncomfortable situation. The hesitation for Jordan Peterson is his audience which is largely Protestant. He must proceed with caution if he chooses to swim the Tiber. 😊😊😊
I just recently listened to Gabi on Pints with Aquinas talking about when he was there for the interview with Tammy and Jordan Peterson when they announced that she was coming into the Church. During his chat with Matt, Gabi mentioned that Jordan is constantly (!) being, really, harassed by Catholics throwing rosaries at him and throwing themselves at him asking/begging him to come into the Church. If that's the case, maybe we're the ones keeping him from coming into the Church. Maybe he said 'unlikely' at the end because he wants us off his back. We need to leave him alone! Let go and let God....just a thought 💭🤔.
If you really want him to become Catholic then pray and fast for him.
Yes I listened to that interview also and mentioned that “pressure” issue.in another comment here. He’s helped many many people esp young men-and the issue of Faith/Religious affiliation is something kept private and quiet in clinical environments. He might be wrestling w/that-the cost/price issue these Fathers spoke of so eloquently. He’s just been thru a horrendous period ? 3-4 years? In which both he and his wife were v/Iill and separated from each other b/c of their illnesses. She was told her disease was terminal- no cure/no recovery. She prayed the Rosary w/a friend-was healed-now became a Catholic. Pretty overwhelming-they’ve known each other since they were teens. He’s on his journey. The best I can do is to pray for him. He’s being led-in God’s time-right into Jesus’ arms!
I think what he said about "Pope" Francis speaks for itself. HE'S THE STUMBLING BLOCK!!! He is the reason for Dr. Peterson's reticence.
I never heard of those kinds of catholics. They certainly are not acting in a catholic way.
@@ilonkastille2993 That’s true-isn’t isn’t Catholic-it’s mis-guided enthusiasm ( charitable take) and .or thoughtless boundary violation ( at worst) totally agree w/your an agreed ll Odis and recommendation
My dear priest, this man, Jordan Peterson, is a beacon of God’s grandeur. So, whether he’s wrestling with Catholicism or not, he’s doing more for the church, than most.
He is also, or not, wrestling with Orthodoxy .
@@roddumlauf9241it’s the orthodox CULT
Mrs Peterson could’ve converted privately. She was public about it and her husband publicly supported her.
Dr Peterson doesn’t owe the public any information about his own
personal spiritual status.
Yes-the fact is we want him to have ALL that we have as Catholics-don’t you? This discussion is in no way a put down Jordan Peterson. Reading Cardinal John Henry Newman probably explains it best-certainly better than I.
and just maybe he is called not to be a Catholic so as he can really shine light on Catholicism so we can better understand and be better Catholics.. Maybe he needs to sit as a outsider looking in with an eagle eye - look already what he has achieved for the Church - more than most.
Something you said about choosing to become Catholic because your wife is makes me want to share this:
Dad was raised Presbyterian. When he went to convert the priest asked why. 1960, so things were way different. He said, “she won’t marry me unless I convert”. The priest sent him home and said come back when you have another answer. He and my mom were so impressed. He was Catholic till the day he passed, 7 years ago.
I love that priest, being Catholic is serious business & you cant be tomorrow! ✅
Excellent video. Thank you, gentlemen. Yes, as a convert, I too can testify that there's a cost. It'll be different for everyone but, the cost is as nothing compared to what we received. Pax
Our pleasure, thanks for sharing your experience!
Welcome Home
Glory to God & welcome God 🙏❤️🔥✝️✅
Ex muslim Ex Protestant Iranian born here. Absolutely love my Catholic faith. And now reading the book of heaven written by Luisa Piccarreta dictated by our blessed Lord Jesus Christ the fulfillment of our Father prayer, Divine Will era! Pray that all of you find out about this gift given by heaven to us for these confusing times. In Christ Jesus and Mary! Amen! Fiat!!!!
Thank you for sharing your faith and journey with us. I love the Persian people who suffer greatly in Iran. I have often prayed to Jesus that he sends them the Holy Spirit and allow them to experience him. I hope you and your family are well during these difficult of times .
Luisa Picarreta! How blessed you are to find her. My wife loves her writing and I can’t wait to find to read her books. I pray for you and others that they may find the faith and truth to convert.
@@robertrivell1913 thank you Robert. Just finished listening to father Inuzzie on the discernment of the spirit in the divine Will. May you and your wife be blessed in His Divine love. Pls pray for the conversion of my husband Michael. Fiat!!!!
⅔evk8p@@robertrivell1913
As a revert coming home to the faith after a 30 year absence I think it's clear if it didn't cost you something your not deep enough into your conversion yet.
The more it costs you the more it gains you in a better way.
Welcome home❤
Jordan Peterson needs a St. Paul experience! Get knocked off his horse. Imagine his fierceness in proclaiming the Gospel that he would have! Let us pray for that moment!
Who said St Paul was on a horse ?
@@tomgreene1843 Do your homework. Everyone knows that story.
@@tomgreene1843 Caravaggio 🤣😂
@@tomgreene1843Have you read the Bible lately??? Or ever?
Jordan needs no advice from layman ..
God Bless Jordan Peterson and grant his wife health.
There are literally millions of people needing help more than peterson and his wife. And don't tell God who to bless. I think he's got that base covered.
Thank you gentlemen - good discussion. And Thank you for giving your lives to Holy Mother Church.
I believe the Blessed Mother and the Holy Spirit have this man. He doesn’t have a chance. 😊🕊❤️🔥🙏
Mary has nothing to do with salvation.
@@johnbrowne2170 She always points her children to her Son, our Savior. Thank you for your comment! Be blessed.😉💕
Great comment! They are a fantastic team! ❤🙏🏻
@@eireannemerald1382 Only Jesus saves.
@@johnbrowne2170 *"Only Jesus saves."* -- Rom. 11:13-14 - I magnify my ministry to make the Jews jealous and thus save some of them.
Great discussion. JBP is currently on a tour called “we who wrestle with God” where he makes a brilliant critique of secular (enlightenment period) science, I attended it a few weeks ago. He’s further along towards Christianity everyday and I think he could become one of the greatest allies of the church in recent times by spreading his ideas to a wide audience and having the incredible articulation to defend his case against the opposition. This newest lecture will be released soon I imagine. God Bless!
Jordan Peterson is an example of what a husband should be.
Yes. Handsome and successful.
Now if we can just get wives as faithful and loving
@@Gio-ce8ob many are. Don’t give up hope.
@@erinduvic8579 I would say "few are" I was blessed enough to find one, but I pray hard that my sons are as blessed as I. The Bible even says they're as rare as rubies.
@@Gio-ce8ob they are rare indeed.
This was a great episode! I too lost things when converting, and it saddens me so much it’s that way and people react in the way they do. But if they only knew what we felt and come to know in our Lord and his Chuch, they’d understand. I think Jordan is starting to see all that in his wife, and his faith journey as well 🙏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for sharing!
Just found you good fathers. May God prosper the work of your hands! Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam
Thank you so much for this but please can I ask that you both make the sign of the cross with meaning and reverence. I grew up seeing my father make the sign of the cross. It wasn’t to herald the prayer he was about to pray, it was a prayer in itself not just a quick gesture like what it seemed you both were making. Please, you are priests!! You are called to inspire!
Really??? Criticizing these priests for the number of times they say "like"??? Just thank God that we have these two wonderful priests who are serving God and the Church...sorry we're not all perfect public speakers but LIKE in the scheme of things LIKE it's not that important ....
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Well said bro !!
Agree. But they should stop though. Especially when you go outside America, when americans talk in piblic it’s very noticeable. Like only the other day. This girl on the train has “like” every after three words. It was very weird to hear when you dont hear that sort of conversations here in UK.
I agree that saying "like" and "you know" over and over is an immature way to speak. It's California valley...annoying.
Yes, when I was a teenager I used that word as often as they… and my father noticed it… and constantly corrected me!!!
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Not a fan of interpreting someone else's experience, instead of ASKING them.
Jordan Peterson IS a believer in Jesus Christ. He has publically confessed Christ as His Saviour several times.
He always tears up when he talks about his wife and the love he has for her, as well as her development in her life and faith. Also, God used her Catholic experience to restore her health; who wouldn't tear up over that???
Deep thinkers experience life and emotions very deeply, as well.
But his conversations are always teachings as well, so his heart aches for those who do not know Christ. The tears and the envy are for others, not for himself.
🌿M
Loved the content. Charitable speaking tip: Your public speaking will improve immensely, if you don't use "like" as a filler word quite so much. Glory to God! Pray for more priests, pray for more holy priests, pray for all God's children.
I’m glad you gave them the charitable tip and am in complete agreement with you about it. I actually came to your comment because I was trying to formulate the same advice in a loving way. You did great with your tip. The priests insights were why I chose to start their presentation, and I appreciated them…but could not make it through to the final 3 min of their dialogue. I got like-distracted.
Thanks for the gracious feedback, we will keep this mind!
Play on 1.25 speed and you won’t even notice the extra transition words.
I also believe Jordan is a prophet for the world at this moment in time.
From other comments Peterson has done regarding the poor role the Catholic hierarchy is playing on demanding the faithful to fulfill their duties, and the poor role of masculinity in the contemporary Church,.we can guess that that's one of the main reasons he is not stepping into the Church. Which would be great to see him converting and asking for the strengthening of the masculine in the Church. So much need it because we have such weak leadership than can't directly confront the major problems we are facing as Catholic in a pos-true culture
Nothing is more off-putting than a Catholic parish run by a bunch of old ladies.
Please add more background light.
Russel Brand, Tucker also talking Catholic. Let's pray for a more conversions.
I love JBP so much. He is such a good man who loves so deeply and feels so deeply. He's a good human.
Dr Peterson has mentioned he feels more drawn to Eastern Orthodoxy, particularly through the retention of their more traditional liturgy.
This may be a source of a struggle, would love to hear your thoughts on it.
God bless.
Can you blame him? The Orthodox do not change or throw away tradition like Rome does.
Please dear priests come out of the dark and get some good lightning
I loved this! So happy you tweeted good and holy Priests popped into my feed. ❤🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
Since "Jesus told us not to judge", then please don't go ahead and judge. The man has been misunderstood and hurt enough. He IS a believer!!!
Intellectual brilliance is NOT arrogance!!!
🌿M
Feels kind enough. It’s really funny. I love JP and these two laughing priests
I feel a lot of the comments miss the mark. Why do so many of you think you have arrived somewhere he needs to be? He is doing the very wrestling and working out of his faith we are instructed to do. Good intentions do not give you license to wag your fingers as the moral authorities. Your level of belief is lacking and imperfect no matter who you are and if you don’t realize that you are unwise and deceiving yourselves
As someone who hasn’t been to church in many years, I’ve been recently visiting some Catholic UA-cam channels. I’m astonished at the judgy, gossipy moral superiority in so many of the comments. I can assure you as someone born before Vatican II, the old “conservative” types were so much more human and far less nasty than the new sort.
imagine a non catholic explaining our faith and beauty as well as many listening to him rather than the wishy washy nonsense of social political love many in the church give a false sense of benevolence of love splaining.
I've followed Dr. Peterson off and on for a while, depending on the topic. I've heard him discuss God and Christianity and it seems to me he has a hard time with the relationship aspect of faith. There have been videos where he acknowledges God's supremacy but there are also times where he speaks of God as more of a construct. He displayed a bit of that during that interview when he started on a stream of consciousness about the nature of reality. That is the foot he still has firmly planted in his training as a psychologist. I've watched him try to fit the square peg in the hole by making claims like Nietzsche is the best friend Christianity has or when he tries to link what Jung had to say with what's taught in the Gospels. It's an attempt to marry the two and it's not done out of hubris or malice, he just seems to be caught between two competing worldviews and he realizes at a deeper level you can't be a little bit pregnant.
That doesn't mean academia and faith are incompatible. There are those on both sides who would make that claim but that is because they have adopted hardened positions and treat it as some sort of competition. I admire Dr. Peterson because he is a seeker. He's a bit like the Benjamin Franklin of his day. Franklin spoke of the virtues of Christianity and saw it as a public good. He even based some of his views such as those on abolition on Christian principles. But unlike Peterson, Franklin wasn't a seeker in matters of faith. He had made his mind up at a young age that it was fine for others but he didn't like to be constrained on a personal level. That is the surrender angle. Dr. Peterson is coming to terms with that as well but it doesn't need to be a zero-sum game. You don't have to abandon academics and science for Christianity anymore than you have to abandon Christianity to work in the physical sciences. There are people, believers in scientism, who would argue otherwise but the conflict is a made-up fight carried out by those in search of power and prestige rather than truth and grace.
My concern is more young people turn to people like Dr. Peterson for advice on spiritual matters than their pastor or priest. That is a failure of the church, a desire to be of this world and to focus more on that than salvation in the next. People, especially young people, are seeking the truth and if the church tries to straddle the fence in order to avoid offending and please the masses it reaches no one. Someone or something will fill that God sized void in their heart. I have no problem with young people taking advice from Dr. Peterson, especially young men who are desperate for guidance, but Dr. Peterson can't be the shepherd. I do wish him well on his journey and once he figures out that it's okay to surrender, that there is a great peace in it he will be fine, so long as he understands it is a day-by-day struggle because Satan is interested in our souls as well, and it's really easy to fall for the old line; "Did God really say?"
I think I always felt JP would be a great Catholic
For one, we need to acknowledge and respect how difficult it is to be wrestling with these things publicly, open to the scrutiny and analysis of all; that takes a lot of vulnerability and humility to kinda bear your soul like that.
I also think that perhaps what we’re seeing is a reminder that ultimately faith is a gift and a grace given by God. It seems as though Dr. Peterson can see the truth of the Faith and the implications of it, but he’s hesitating from making that leap of faith. It’s like how Vatican I reiterated that one can know of the existence of God purely through the light of natural reason without faith. It’s hard for baptized believers to remember that frontier of how far reason can take you before faith takes over and informs of the rest because the two are just so integrated into who we are and how we think.
Let’s pray for Dr. Peterson!
I understand how he feels about his wife. My wife and I didn’t meet until we were in our early 50s. Before we got married she said that she felt that a woman should follow her husband and ask me to take her to the church I attended because she knew nothing about it (I’m Eastern Orthodox). She fell in love the first time she went. So she was received into the church and we were married shortly afterwards. May God rest her soul in peace. During the few years we had together she blossomed into the beautiful woman I saw the first time I saw her. All the years I waited for her was absolutely worth it.
The Catholic church is the church founded and sustained by Christ Himself. She is what the words "truth" and "sanity" mean. Its reasonable to expect the excellent Dr. Peterson see and act upon the truth. The truth is a Person.
… Like… Like… Like it’s like… Like… It’s like… Like… I like the content and what they were saying. Please stop saying like all the time.
You must not know much about Jordan, because he’s a very emotional person. I don’t think he’s wrestling as much as he’s in awe of this new journey where he sees the fruits of his wife. I think he as emotional because this has made him love her even more. I’ve been praying for him for years, thinking he would be a great Catholic; right up his alley with the profound theology and the deep richness of Catholicism for his intellectual nature. I had no idea God would bring it through his wife first!
Laus Deo Atque Gloria! Praise and glory to God!
I have been watching Jordan for quite a while now. I saw him begin this journey, and although it may take him longer than many, I believe he is and always has been an academic. I hope and pray he has a profound and personal experience with our supernatural and transcendent Lord. I think he will get there. It seems he wants to make sense of it all, but there are far too many mysteries that he has not been able to reconcile with his reason. Hopefully, he will wake up one morning and discover that faith and reason can coexist. It is not one or the other. Perhaps his wife will be the impetus for deeper understanding and acceptance, to lead by example.
Peterson's present story reminds me of Sheldon Vanauken's book: A Severe Mercy when Sheldon's wife came to faith but Sheldon struggled.
True love is wishing the best for the other, you see that in his open vulnerability showing his gratitude that she is Fully embracing her authentic self, and witnessing the joy of his most beloved.
i cant imagine what it was like for peterson at the thought of losing his wife, he has actually known her most of his life, they went to school together, grew up on the same street. So... that would be like losing your sister being that close, never remembering a time when you didn't know life without her, its no wonder he tears up at the thought.
Ive loved watching jordan learn, study and think out loud in front of the world. He struggles with depression and from what I hear him say between the lines is that he doent feel worthy enough for God to say he can commit. He think before he mke thi kind of commitment that he needs to be more perfect
I have been listening to Jordan B Peterson for long time since he went viral . But I’m glad he seek God and change his life around. He’s been struggling depression…etc .. he once atheist abd now to Believe in Jesus. He charge a lot of people perspective
I think, given that Jordan is so well read and open to everyone of his close friends: his biggest challenge eventually will be between the Holy Orthodox Church and Roman Catholicism. He may choose the Roman way purely to support his wife, but feel the pain of loss many of us experience from the schism of the faith.
Peterson said Catholicism is as sane as one can get...in an interview he says Catholicism is good for his wife....but He isn't ready to dive all in yet....he has to work through his hangups....he should not let all his intellectualism be a bar against the faith....the Holy Spirit will guide him if he humbles himself and opens himself up....I think he may just do it after his wife's example or he could be like a CS Lewis type....pray for him
He needs to speak with good Catholics, good Catholic intellectuals and priests because some of thr stuff he reads like this Jung guy is not necessarily pro Catholicism
Yes, but I think a lot of Catholics harass him about it. As Catholics, we need to 'let go and let God'. Don't push so hard that it pushes him away. At the end of this interview, he says it's unlikely that he'll follow his wife into the Church. Maybe it's his way to tell us to back off. 🤷🏽♀️🤔
I love this, but - guys - please stop using "like" so much! It's distracting!
Jordan Peterson is so authentic and honest and smart. He surely can become a great Apostle of Christ, especially because he knows what suffering is about and how to overcome it as a warrior without compromising his dignity. And that’s what Catholicism is about, we are the Church Militant after all, fighting against sin and odds of life for the Glory of God, as He is the who sustain us. 🙏🙏🙏
Dear Fathers- please lose the verbal tic “like”! It is detracting from your message.
Dr. Peterson's hesitation to enter into the Catholic Church, in my opinion, is the total and absolute COMMITMENT that this entails. In one of his talks, when asked whether he believed in God, he responded: "who deres say he believes in God?"
Dr. Peterston is a very consistent thinker and a man of honour once he makes this commitment he will follow it to the best of his abilities... even unto martyrdom....Hence his deliberation.
Seems to me he lacks Faith, which you either have or have not, it can't be gotten by snapping fingers.
Dr. Peterson is the such a incredible brilliant man who know what's true and expresses it in everyone of these interviews regardless of the backlash.
Peterson is the most meaningful voice in the world today. With all the attacks on him by ignorance people and his health issues, it is astonishing to see his courage and resilience. He carries a heavy cross but understands the difficult path he must follow.
It is so important and lovely to see what he is opening up to, and God works so awesomely in so many ways.
So grateful to have this man as my fellow Canadian. He is a beacon of the "True North strong and free" in the midst of our worst days under the Trudeau/Singh Marxist, anti-freedom regime.
Whether or not he becomes a Catholic, he is the definition of a man of goodwill and I believe the universe (I'm not a Christian or believer in any formal faith), will reward him as such in whatever happens in the great beyond.
jordan's answer about his wife's conversion is incredibly impressive and can only come from someone with moral courage, one driven by the reality of truth regardless of the difficulty in the pursuit... yet catholicism is so rewarding at every step.
Important notice to ALL Catholic priests. In the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen. Say this with REVERENCE, Not like you have to hurry up and get to the bathroom.. please set a good example or I’ll tighten your collar. AMEN
You’ll choke a priest if they make the sign of the cross too fast?
I wasn't aware of the like like like but I noticed the way he made the sign of the cross. Recently
Many of my friends have become hostile with my return to the Church and throw the glib stuff about 'out of grace' priests/no women etc. But I'm still strong
You can see his face, the face of a great raional man that is struggling with faith. But knowing that he will surrender, sooner than later.
Father Josh! It's been a while. Didn't know you had a channel!
To realize or to meditate and go deeper into the mysteries of our Lord Jesus is frightening and incomprehensible. The more you delve into the mystery the less you know. I was stuck on the incarnation for years. How? (And I don’t mean just the physical part of it) How? How? His beautiful. What humility. What love. What compassion and more. After all that you’re back at square one because no matter what a CNN person discovers about it, it’s nothing. Who knows the mind of God? But it’s wonderful to ponder it. Everything is for His glory. We must live in a way that gives glory to God.❤️❤️❤️
What Jordan needs to realize in Tammy's journey, and what he's witnessing, is what St. Paul said " I must decrease, you (God) must increase" Tammy is surrendering herself to God's will for her, and God's love for her and her role in life, even if Jordan doesn't follow and nobody else follows, ..she knows what her soul loves and needs, she's following God and abandoning whatever fear of loss there is in doing so... which also shows a lot of trust and love and respect in and for her husband, but having and keeping respect for her individual role in life... I find this fascinating and beautiful! I remember her speaking about... I believe the 4th joyful mystery of the rosary a couple of years ago and how she could relate it to life and her life, and her sweet soft voice. Jordan had recently described her as "prickly" ...but that he loves that about her, lol... he was talking about how women/ wives need time alone and how it's good to respect, appreciate and love that, ...it was very good... I'm a cradle born Catholic, who's been married for 30 years and this is true for myself and every women I know... ther title of the you tube short was "why couples benefit from time apart" ...it was really good.
There's a quote my daughter wrote on the chalkboard several years ago, that I can't erase, because it's so beautiful and speaks truth for me as a woman, a wife, and a mother... "a womans life should be so lost in God, that a man needs to seek Him in order to find her" if Jordan loves Tammy as much as he says, and his love for her is evident, there's not much doubt (there's always some, because even C.S. Lewis brilliant as he was, never converted ) he's very likely going seek what he loves most in his life, because he can't live without her... they're one in marriage.
Thank you Father's! This is beautiful, sincere and such a good conversation to hear!
He has a servant's heart and loves so deeply, I see he will eventually get there.
I know goodness when I see it
Fr Josh Waltz, please accept this correction in great charity and humility. I observed this just now because I too had picked up the chopped up version too somewhere.
It is not “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.” It is actually “In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.”
Blessed be God. God bless.
Mr. Peterson made me tear up!
Surrender, trust and obedience
With respect, I do feel the framing of Dr. Peterson's journey as "ahead" or "behind" Tammy's misses the mark. Jesus is not a thing we can measure. His love is beyond measure or categorization.
I would not want to set Christianity against othe honest pursuits, as it is intellectual, metaphysical, common work, and faith, all in one.
As you said later in the podcast, Dr. Peterson's journey is a deep, which is the best way to arrive at your end point. I left the church, but never Jesus, in my own journey. He called me back gently, showing me the glory of what I gained for what I traded in. Essentially, finding the highest good, Jesus, in a way that I can bear. In a personal way, I see that happening to Dr. Peterson. We should respect the process and trust in our saviour to ensure souls like Dr. Peterson's are brought home in all aspects described above. Love to all!
He is what I imagine St. Augustine was like. I pray that he hears the child.
He has been trending towards Eastern Orthodoxy.
I so appreciate your honesty and your ministry,many Priests of Jesus Christ are very much appreciated by me God Bless….yes,God you need to take over,he has,for me,advice from a priest who knows what he’s talking about is the best advice I’ve ever received…..Love the ministry of the priesthood…..
He’s been wrestling for quite awhile. And in some respects, outside of the Faith/Belief aspect-is the overwhelming obsession all his millions of devotees as to to which Faith he subscribed.They want him to be on “ their” team. So I think he’s held thing close to himself. He’s in a unique position. I wouldn’t want to be pushed/pressured. Have you seen his interview at Steubenville w/its’ President? His last statement to the audience was powerful-and prescient.
He's been on a roller coaster ( re: recent situations) & the ride is still a bit unfinished, He's a tad unsettled, but his psyche is status quo stay the course, even in turbulent times. He's assessed the situations but all the dust is not fully settled.
He's staying the course but also still assessing re: a multitude of incoming stimuli.
We have the same thoughts Father. Jordan is afraid to surrender. He might lose his career, his friends and his viewers or followers. That is what I tjought too when I saw his interview in EWTN. How sad. But I know Jesus will come to him one day.
Dr Petersen said in another video when asked if he believed in God in the context of a very intellectual, well grounded, well premised academic debate, that he doesn't like the question. He doesn't like the question because deeply in his existential core he senses and affirms that belief is not an abstraction that allows one to say yes I agree on some intellectual surface level about this or that or the other Doctrine or Dogma. Jordan Peterson knows that belief is acquiescence surrender lived out, lived out very very concretely. He says that belief is a verb that if embraced would literally rock our world and ourselves, our essences, our deepest ontological intellectual, spiritual and even physical selves. JP will never do anything that he doesn't embrace completely and that doesn't fully engage and transform his very core being. For him, being Catholic would mean taking the Incarnation on, with all its implications, doctrines, logical outgrowths, illogical and profound sentiments and living it to the point that the believer is absolutely authentic and living the profound Adventure that is life forever changed, transformed and transfigured by and with a spark of the Divine- through Him, with Him and in Him. I pray our faith is just such a vital, animating, soul-shaping, soul-altering, ego destroying, humbling reality as is the Grace- filled spark that is shaping Jordan Peterson in its all- consuming Crucible.
What an awesome feeling of true struggle with God. I feel he's struggling with his wife's love for Christ and like he doesn't have the ability to be part of that. He wants to be part of that and it hurts.
Thank you for such a wonderful definition of the Easter Vigil "narrative" of the high points of salvation history! I came into the Church one year ago at Easter Vigil with my husband. We have been married 40 years and were Protestants for 60 years before the Holy Spirit brought us home to such a larger story of salvation. There is literally nothing more valuable than the Sacramental life with Christ's Bride. I pray Jordan will discover it for himself!
I pray Jordan and all in the west find their heart back in the east and may their feet follow. ☦️
Well, she's drawing closer to God, and Jordan is so deeply moved in Love for her that she is becoming who she truly is again. Talk about a life partner, friend, husband! If anything, his love for her is very Godly. Not in any way selfish.
Weird to find myself laughing with 2 priests on Friday night. How did I get here? A strange world
I respect a lot Dr. Peterson, he loves his wife so much. He is happy for what Catholicism has brought to his wife, he is scared that he is not joining her in that journey. He seems to want to join her, but he understand and knows well the commitment. He can't follow just because of her. If he converts he knows he has to do it sincerely because he wants to follow God, not his wife.
That was a pious sign of the cross.
He is happy for her becoming who she is in a more complete way. He may also be crying because in a sense he may perceived himself to be left behind in that process of becoming more complete so I think what we are seeing with him is ambivalence.
I wish the priests would stop trying to sound like regular guys with so many "like" and "you know,"
There is way too much V-2 in many priests.
Maybe that's how they talk because they are regular guys.
No there is nothing drawing her away from him. Wrong take. No he’s not envious of her. You don’t know much about them to make a video
Agree!
Kind of sad, isn't it? The poor man has been through enough -- but most God-honuring, Christ-believing prophets, like Dr. Peterson are put through a lot -- and often by the Christians and religious folks who are called to encourage one another's faith. Kind of sounds like something that was done to Jesus, Himself, doesn't it? 🌿 M
My guess is that since Tammy has always been spiritual, acceptance was fairly easy for her, while Jordan, as a scientist, is struggling to overcome his scientific need for proof. I think he envies his wife's acceptance and hopes he too can find his path. That's not to say Dr. Peterson is not a believer, but I think he is still struggling to accept what he can't prove.
Jordan is just a sweet guy isn't he, he's pure and innocent like a little boy but he thinks too much, reasons too much, he should just let go of himself into the arms of God and the Most Holy Virgin so that he'll find true peace. Let us all pray for that. I am Eastern Orthodox myself but would like him to join the true church which is the Catholic church. (as we are the schismatics)
Genuine question: given your statement about EO being schismatic, what are your plans? Are you becoming Catholic? ❤
I agree with you, his intelligence is a roadblock for him in this case. I think when you are so smart it's hard to just let go
Yes, I am seeking to convert, am in the process. I've had a major traumatic and emotional upheaval acting as a catalyst and it feels natural now. Comparing the two, I'd say Catholiscism is solidly balanced and earthy, whereas Eastern Orthodoxy is too lofty, too ethereal and is lacking the composite outlook if you will. Besides, it's ethnic and unable to adress its own issues. I'll let it remain a secret to them fot the time being because I know they wouldn't like it. Anyway, I trust Jordan prays together with his wife, this is the best thing that could have happened, she of all people can tear him away from his overloaded thought process, cool his CPU if you will
@@stanncieI’ve often thought Jordan Peterson is too smart for his is own good. His struggle is so obvious.
It takes two to make a schism. I'm Catholic but God's called me to embrace Eastern Christian spirituality and theology while staying where I am planted, so that I can breathe with both lungs.
Faith doesn’t come from the brain, but rather through the ears of the heart. It’s merely another way to take in God’s amazing love!
He talks about pride in intellectualism in some video I have seen recently. I think that is his struggle. Pride in his intellectualism….his intellect is his God and has been a long time. He is struggling with humbling himself . That is my opinion.
Let's pray for conversion of the world and reparations for sins, the world is hurting so much and we need more penance and also masses requesting for Jesus mercy. Also please let's pray for more priests, God blesses us when we have more priests, it give me joy to see more priests to serve God.
Why didn't I know about this channel!?!? I'm so sorry, I'll do my part to spread yous guys about! God bless and know of my prayers
Jordan Peterson needs to read the life of Elizabeth Leseur- wealthy french lady that loved her aethist husband so much she let him find Christ & convert to Catholicism at his pace by showing him how much she loved him and God. When she died he read her diary expressing her deep sorrow of how her husband walked away from her most precious love Christ and that she would therefore not see her husband in the next life.
Jordan dont wait to walk together with your wife and Christ on the narrow but path of full truths, no compromises of Catholic faith, without fear doubt vanity , embrace Christ & discover full truth, irreplaceable joy, with your wife whilst youre both in this world. What we do in this life, taking leap of faith for Christ and out of deep love of our spouse will be immensely rewarded in the eternal life.
Jordan has relied on his intellect his whole life. His heart will win him over soon enough.
I think you guys are missing the point a little. J. Peterson might be struggling with something. But it is not seen from this short clip show at the beginning. If you had been following him, you would understand that he is a deep thinking man who doesn't just speak in till he's articulated his thoughts. And that's why he kept a long silence at the middle of his response. I think he is trying to say that her wife had became more of herself ever since she became Catholic...
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