Brazilian Pilot WON'T FOLLOW Instructions | Creates CHAOS! 😨

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 606

  • @andrewtoop4764
    @andrewtoop4764 Місяць тому +107

    He caused so much CHAOS! no one noticed CAP13 ditching in the atlantic at 10:38 🥴

  • @ireumiobseum
    @ireumiobseum Місяць тому +269

    This sounds like a typical VATSIM session to be honest 😂

    • @derek_da_pilot6412
      @derek_da_pilot6412 Місяць тому +8

      Exactly. I was having PTSD and relating to the voice and tone with the controllers lol.

    • @tjfSIM
      @tjfSIM Місяць тому +2

      It does! 😂

    • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
      @user-kb8gh5jv9t Місяць тому +2

      @@ireumiobseum Wake-up call… Reality (done by professionals (or one should expect)) vs. Simulation (done by amateurs) = NOT the same🤦‍♀️

    • @Jump-2-the-moon
      @Jump-2-the-moon Місяць тому +3

      Air Force ground pound 69 here

    • @hmdashknani
      @hmdashknani Місяць тому

      😂😂

  • @niklasnelson
    @niklasnelson Місяць тому +56

    "so long..." - "See ya" what a beautiful ending of this Story lol

  • @smark1180
    @smark1180 Місяць тому +257

    ATC: Say speed!
    Pliot: SPEED! S-P-E-E-D!

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +12

      S-P-E-E-D 😆😆

    • @psneves
      @psneves Місяць тому +5

      🤣

    • @russofris
      @russofris Місяць тому +20

      Reminds me of the old joke:
      Captain: Mayday, this is the UK Freighter Lancelot, we've lost power and are taking on water. We are sinking!
      German coastguard with heavy accent: Hallo! Vat are you sinking about?

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 Місяць тому +5

      Don’t call me surely… 😂

    • @mightyV444
      @mightyV444 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah, I was half-expecting that reply myself 😅

  • @rozanoff6175
    @rozanoff6175 Місяць тому +150

    The pilot’s voice sounds like he’s missing oxygen or had some alcohol 😂

    • @lucasknevitz
      @lucasknevitz 29 днів тому +10

      The communication in aviation is hard enough, just imagine doing that in another language

    • @bobbastian760
      @bobbastian760 29 днів тому

      weed

    • @rozanoff6175
      @rozanoff6175 29 днів тому

      @@bobbastian760 .
      Maybe it’s true 🫢 !?

    • @zachthomas7810
      @zachthomas7810 28 днів тому +11

      @@lucasknevitzyeah maybe if it’s not what you do for a living, but if you’re a pilot you have to do better than this. Much better

    • @lucasknevitz
      @lucasknevitz 28 днів тому +8

      @@zachthomas7810 Agreed, but yet everyone had their start someday, maybe that's his first time on international flight, I mean, you can have 20 years of experience in your own country but international aviation is a whole new world

  • @JuanLaya-j6d
    @JuanLaya-j6d 17 днів тому +39

    I have to say that the controllers were actually very professional. They understood the problem and dealt with it the best they could. No shouting no screaming no more pressure. Excellent job Boston controllers.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr Місяць тому +137

    English comprehension for the first dude was hovering somewhere around 50% of what it should be. When I hear “turn right five degrees”, I chuckled because I knew there was no way that was getting read back correctly or followed immediately.

    • @ra2186
      @ra2186 Місяць тому +18

      I don't see why the controller didn't just give a heading to begin with. Seems like he introduced the confusion in that bit.

    • @kablamoman
      @kablamoman Місяць тому +14

      @@ra2186they don’t know what your heading actually is due to winds aloft - all they see is your track over the ground. For small adjustments like that, it’s often easier for them to get the result they want by telling you 5 or 10 degrees left or right.
      Often a pilot will follow that up with a readback that clears up any ambiguity, eg. “5 degrees right, new heading 040, fox bravo lima”

    • @georgybest5135
      @georgybest5135 Місяць тому +4

      Blame it on brazils educational system that claims everyones is proficient in portuguese - and on private schools - english too. Freaking stablishment my dude

    • @idlewild13l
      @idlewild13l Місяць тому

      I laughed, like buddy how did you not see that coming

    • @quackgarage9551
      @quackgarage9551 Місяць тому +2

      @@ra2186 My thoughts exactly. The ATC was pretty much pouring a lot of gasoline into this.

  • @heatheridoni1213
    @heatheridoni1213 Місяць тому +54

    I like that he tried the ole Jedi Mind Trick when he was hit with the possible pilot deviation

    • @asdasdasdasd8970
      @asdasdasdasd8970 Місяць тому +4

      "You don't want to give me a number"
      "You want to go home and rethink your life"

  • @axoman3041
    @axoman3041 28 днів тому +14

    Thank God I am piloting my car without the need of ATC comms. I can turn any headings I want while maintaining an altitude of 0 feet above the ground

    • @trainsimulatordriver
      @trainsimulatordriver День тому

      I hate to tell you that if you're at zero feet then you're probably getting wet 🤣

  • @Mxaviair
    @Mxaviair 26 днів тому +15

    It doesn't seem like English comprehension was the issue, he sounds like he's awake for 48 hours straight. And it looks like he fell asleep mid first approach and came back with a totally reenergized tone after waking up, at least momentarily.

    • @IgorAnselm
      @IgorAnselm 26 днів тому +5

      Probably another pilot but yeah, the first one sounded impaired although he understood English.

  • @gabrielvasin7880
    @gabrielvasin7880 Місяць тому +73

    this is why we need to make sure every pilot is perfectly fluent in english

    • @leonardodemilio6703
      @leonardodemilio6703 26 днів тому +35

      Would like to see English speakers be fluent in other languages. And you are not able at all.

    • @gabrielvasin7880
      @gabrielvasin7880 25 днів тому +12

      @@leonardodemilio6703 when speaking english is a requirement to fly airplanes and you’re flying in an english speaking country while not being fluent in that language then you’re a hazard to everyone’s safety

    • @Postelnikov
      @Postelnikov 24 дні тому +6

      @@leonardodemilio6703they are not. But we need international language for aviation. And it is English. And I would like to say that most of US pilots need to learn ICAO standards for communication. What I hear from most of pilots and some of ATC - this is not an ICAO standards.

    • @kwinsley1
      @kwinsley1 23 дні тому

      Bull sh*t

    • @kwinsley1
      @kwinsley1 23 дні тому +3

      @@gabrielvasin7880and if you can’t speak Spanish , France , Portuguese , and you’re in them airspace??? What can you tell me……

  • @adilsonnogueira6468
    @adilsonnogueira6468 29 днів тому +385

    Meanwhile two very experienced USA pilots disconeced their transponder and did not follow the rules while flying over Brazil and hit and Boing 737 killing all 154 passengers….😢

    • @Mauronog1
      @Mauronog1 28 днів тому +32

      In fact, they never turned it on before they hit and tore the Boeing's wing out.

    • @damiandiesel1
      @damiandiesel1 28 днів тому +48

      What does that have to do with this?

    • @7marinamarinaki
      @7marinamarinaki 28 днів тому +72

      @@damiandiesel1 nothing, he's probably Brasilian that got offended.

    • @thiagogarde
      @thiagogarde 27 днів тому +57

      @@damiandiesel1 pois é ! não tem nada a ver! ai foi só um pequeno mal entendido com o ATC.. já os americanos não faziam a menor idéia de como pilotar um avião da embraer (avião brasileiro) .. não sabiam algo básico como: onde ficava o transponder.. (que é o mesmo que um motorista não saber onde liga o farol do carro)

    • @user-tm8jt2py3d
      @user-tm8jt2py3d 27 днів тому +39

      @@thiagogarde again, what is the point you are making? this Brazillian pilot should be excused for his incompetence because US pilots also fucked up? Why are you guys so insecure?

  • @martinzinho6455
    @martinzinho6455 Місяць тому +32

    Me giving my dad turn by turn Mapquest directions in the 90s

  • @Antonio-lt1sp
    @Antonio-lt1sp Місяць тому +17

    I think the pilot was a bit overwhelmed with the english communications. He is not so bad at listening (he repeated many times the correct FL), but he definitely was bad at following the instructions. Good thing that the ATC was very assertive, and dealt with this traffic properly.

    • @tachacastilho
      @tachacastilho Місяць тому +7

      or a bit too slow maybe 🤔 sounded like he was experiencing hypoxia or something 😟

    • @diegotr1903
      @diegotr1903 20 днів тому

      Yeah that what seemed to me.
      He is not used to the communication and vocabulary

  • @alk672
    @alk672 12 днів тому +3

    I wouldn't want to talk on the radio either if my callsign was PSFBL, what a mouthful every time.

  • @larsfreeburg1535
    @larsfreeburg1535 Місяць тому +55

    This guy paid someone to take his language proficiency test lmao

    • @winderdias9098
      @winderdias9098 3 дні тому

      the proficiency test doesn't always mean that you can understand everything. Only those who speak more than one language understand this difficulty.

    • @anotherkatiek
      @anotherkatiek 11 годин тому

      @@winderdias9098 No one said you had to understand perfectly. You just can't be incompetent.

  • @benbunch4159
    @benbunch4159 Місяць тому +49

    Classic ATC drinking game one…things go from bad to worse and then you get a different voice on the radio.

    • @musicalaviator
      @musicalaviator Місяць тому +2

      sounds like the pilots were playing a drinking game before they got on the radio.

    • @crankatorium
      @crankatorium 26 днів тому +4

      @@musicalaviator 2nd guy seemed perfectly sober and alert to me.

  • @DTowns19
    @DTowns19 Місяць тому +12

    This is better than trying to find the next best thriller on Netflix. Stressed TF OOUT.

    • @johnnymark8888
      @johnnymark8888 25 днів тому

      lol, you got that right. breathed a sigh of relief when the pilot finally found the runway!

  • @davidpage1028
    @davidpage1028 Місяць тому +72

    Sounds like two different pilots on the radio - changed after the missed approach

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +12

      Yeah. 02 pilots. The second pilot gave a call just after the missed approach

    • @SamiJuntunen1
      @SamiJuntunen1 Місяць тому +2

      7.28 tower says 11 aclock. And then cancelled landing. Plane is about 11 a clock from Boston field? Should he not say dir of field?

    • @smark1180
      @smark1180 Місяць тому +12

      @@SamiJuntunen1 He said the _relative_ direction. Furthermore, the airport is 11 o'clock relative to the airplane's nose, not the other way around as you wrote,

    • @pilotlugao
      @pilotlugao 29 днів тому

      3

    • @paulorubens2527
      @paulorubens2527 29 днів тому

      They probably sent the purser back to serve drinks and the pilot came back from releasing a dump.

  • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
    @Shaken_AND_Stirred Місяць тому +42

    I don’t understand how ATC deals with so many pilots that basically mumble under their breath. I’ve listened to more ATC communications and it seems to be the norm, not the exception with mumbling.

    • @retiredatc8720
      @retiredatc8720 Місяць тому +12

      Most pilots are loud and clear, they just don't make it to UA-cam.

    • @markg7963
      @markg7963 Місяць тому +10

      It doesn’t matter what the pilot says for the. OST part. It matters what he hears. This guy was doing neither. 😂. Atc could have simplified things, slow down their speech, and cut out extra language not needed, just to get this guy on the ground and outta their hair. Then endeavor shows up and spouts off a bunch of non standard phrases.
      The overloaded atc system in the us and many other places has become a shit show.

    • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
      @Shaken_AND_Stirred Місяць тому

      @@retiredatc8720 , @markkg7963
      Before I retired, I used to sit in my high rise office in downtown Houston and listen to “Live ATC” from IAH after the Colgan Air crash. While not all pilots mumble, I sure heard way more than my fair share of COMMS that I often could not understand. I guess it’s one of those things that after you have listened to hours and hours of it, it becomes intelligible in what is being said. You simply learn the “dialect”.
      Thank you both for your responses to my initial comment.

    • @FlightX101
      @FlightX101 Місяць тому +4

      You get used to it in the air lol and youll know when someone is lost like this pilot

    • @Shaken_AND_Stirred
      @Shaken_AND_Stirred Місяць тому

      @@FlightX101
      Thank you!

  • @paulis7319
    @paulis7319 Місяць тому +43

    That sounds like a combination of language barrier and impairment (or illness). It's like he didn't even want to be flying.

  • @diegourbina9958
    @diegourbina9958 Місяць тому +24

    Felt so sorry for this guy but he does need to practice his English.
    However as a non-native speaker from Europe I must say that I find it way easier to understand the English of European ATC than US ATC. They could vocalize much better than they do.

  • @pocovolvedor
    @pocovolvedor 25 днів тому +11

    Just a little misunderstanding and he didnt cause any caos at all. The pilot was trying his BEST and was very respecfoul.

    • @imana3808
      @imana3808 17 днів тому +1

      If your best isn’t good enough then you either need to get better or not do whatever you are doing

    • @pocovolvedor
      @pocovolvedor 17 днів тому +2

      @@imana3808 Humans are not machines. Even you. Can have a bad day... Mistakes are for learn about them...

    • @imana3808
      @imana3808 16 днів тому +1

      @@pocovolvedor pilots bad days should NEVER be this bad

    • @anotherkatiek
      @anotherkatiek 11 годин тому

      Go cry about it. Do better or don't fly here. Period.

  • @Rob2
    @Rob2 Місяць тому +80

    When the controller says "possible pilot deviation I have a phone number to copy when you are ready" he can just reply "we are not ready, wait until we landed" right?
    It is a distraction especially for this pilot.

    • @michaelgoodman8742
      @michaelgoodman8742 Місяць тому +28

      Agreed, not the point at which to start chastisement when setting up the approach, which was bad enough already!

    • @yelkhettar
      @yelkhettar Місяць тому +7

      Agree

    • @paulis7319
      @paulis7319 Місяць тому +10

      Yes, he can. Up until now I've never heard a controller issue a pilot deviation before they've landed and are off the runway, and I'm retired.

    • @craigb5017
      @craigb5017 Місяць тому +7

      When the approach control and the tower are two different facilities, it is not unusual for approach to give the phone number. As a controller, you don't want to pass off additional workload to someone else if it can be helped. The replay was edited for time and the map was off, there may have been ample time at that point.

    • @wturn5354
      @wturn5354 Місяць тому +9

      The Approach is in a different facility than the tower. All the controller did was comply with directives to inform of a possible PD, and issue a phone number.
      I worked at this facility, this pilot should not have been flying in the US. He blew thru 10000 feet and a speed assignment. The controller did a great job, was VERY patient and professional.

  • @coriscotupi
    @coriscotupi Місяць тому +70

    The first pilot should go back to basic English lessons. He'd be hard pressed to buy food at the local supermarket.
    - "That will be $28.95, sir."
    - "Monday."

    • @petermuller5800
      @petermuller5800 Місяць тому +2

      Moreover, he sounds like he's falling asleep. Definately not fit to fly a plane that day.

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Місяць тому

      Eeeez ok.

    • @joemadden4160
      @joemadden4160 Місяць тому +2

      😂

    • @tachacastilho
      @tachacastilho Місяць тому

      Sounds like hypoxia to me 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @LFSProracing
      @LFSProracing 26 днів тому

      @@tachacastilho tought the same

  • @urbanturbine
    @urbanturbine 29 днів тому +5

    This reminded me of the day I had my wisdom teeth pulled.

  • @richardsmith1055
    @richardsmith1055 16 днів тому +3

    The problem here was that he wasn't completely insecure with his English. This is a big problem here in the US, many people have no idea, sometimes you politely and calmly ask them to stop speaking faster but the idiots continue speaking the same way or sometimes even increase the speed.

  • @kevin1873
    @kevin1873 Місяць тому +65

    Let's just hope the FAA was ready to greet this "pilot" upon landing. He's not drunk but he's definitely not qualified to be flying IFR.

    • @rogerrabit6088
      @rogerrabit6088 Місяць тому +20

      I think the problem is the ICAO english level of both pilots.

    • @otiravla
      @otiravla Місяць тому +3

      Not qulified, he is brazilian

    • @gendaminoru3195
      @gendaminoru3195 Місяць тому +1

      Actually i heard a different voice at 8:05 and it sounded like the first guy was incapacitated - stroke? going radio silent starting at 7:31 I like that they offered ATC a landing gear issue to avoid all the paperwork though.

    • @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241
      @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241 Місяць тому

      @@otiravla What!!??? Way to go, moron

    • @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241
      @luizeduardomendespinheiro2241 Місяць тому +29

      @@otiravla what a stupid comment. As we couldn't find hundreds of videos and audios of north american pilots making mistakes. Shame i can't unsee this....

  • @daveluttinen2547
    @daveluttinen2547 Місяць тому +9

    PSBFL is based in Brazil. One cannot let landing gear malfunctions keep you from flying the plane. Deviating more than 100' can get you written up and it sounds like this guy blew that by a country mile. I remember in flight training on a Mooney that my instructors would throw as many distractions as they could - but they were making sure that I maintained control and awareness despite systems analysis to correct "mechanical problems." When you fly turbines, this should be rote.

    • @p.c.9714
      @p.c.9714 День тому

      An Embraer 505 Phenom...

  • @craigwalters
    @craigwalters День тому

    Sounded like dad had been doing some drinking during the flight up to Boston. The son jumped in to save dad from losing his licence

  • @rafa57games
    @rafa57games 3 дні тому

    The ATC should realize that all they have to do was speak slowly, but instead they went full Eminem on the guy

  • @aerowurz
    @aerowurz Місяць тому +4

    Not even now, with subtitles, that dude still did not understand WTF just happened...

  • @wethenorth6437
    @wethenorth6437 Місяць тому +23

    The first pilot sounded impaired to me and it seems like someone else took control thank god. This doesn't give me a lot of faith in the awkward pilot who obviously was having some kind of difficulty understanding directions.

  • @JK-zo1pd
    @JK-zo1pd Місяць тому +13

    Pilot sounds like he’s partially inebriated

  • @yrds96
    @yrds96 4 дні тому

    As a Brazilian working with people from the US, I can understand the struggle of not knowing exactly what the natives are saying. But at least I wasn't flying a plane 😆.

  • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
    @user-kb8gh5jv9t Місяць тому +57

    The Controller needs to realize that he is completely overloading this guy by giving a phone number, delegate that to Ground after landing, complete waste of time!
    That Pilot can’t even follow basic english instructions, sad state of affairs these days…
    His own callsign was a struggle for this guy!

    • @gazzas123
      @gazzas123 Місяць тому +5

      No the Pilot needs to have better english skills to fly.

    • @chrisdaxer3984
      @chrisdaxer3984 Місяць тому +12

      @@gazzas123 Absolutely, but doesn't mean he wasn't being overloaded at the moment. Phone numbers should be marked and saved for ground unless there is nothing going on in the cockpit. Bro can't speak english and is trying to go missed on top of understanding numbers to write down.

    • @jbsack
      @jbsack Місяць тому +1

      Tracon and ground control are inn2 seperate locations. The tracon controllers may not even be at airport. Not sure about Boston but NY tracon is a building in Garden City.Miles from JFK and Laguardia

    • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
      @user-kb8gh5jv9t Місяць тому +4

      @@jbsack , that makes no difference and is obviously the case! They are calling each other all the time to hand off traffic and other issues. The fact is, the Controller should have realized that he isn’t getting through to this character but instead he kept tying up the frequency with unnecessary banter that just made things more chaotic. Common sense goes a long way but sadly it’s truly a dying art.

    • @aeroba-tico
      @aeroba-tico Місяць тому +1

      @@gazzas123 True, still not the right moment to get in to that discusison or adding any more stress or distractions to an already overloaded pilot. It´s like going in to VFR in to IMC and expect the controller to give you a number and get you thinking about paper work while you are trying to get off that situation. Pilot should work on their enlish before flying again in the US and eben maybe anywhere outside of brazil. Having said that i did noticed the controller attempeted to make things easier like when confirming that ATIS he made it a yes/no question and then gave the pilot the weather when it changed to Golf

  • @lonerhino3229
    @lonerhino3229 Місяць тому +31

    PS FBL is from Brazil. This is an Embraer 505 Phenom. Seems like the pilots cannot communicate effectively. One would expect a higher level of proficiency to fly this airplane.

    • @mikec7220
      @mikec7220 Місяць тому

      It is a 2020 Embraer Phenom 300E s/n 50500516

    • @yachtcaptain7320
      @yachtcaptain7320 Місяць тому +2

      Embraer, yes. But they are not Portuguese speaking pilots.

    • @joycelima3051
      @joycelima3051 Місяць тому +8

      @@yachtcaptain7320 the registration is Brazilian and so is the owner... the pilots also, due to their English accent

    • @yachtcaptain7320
      @yachtcaptain7320 Місяць тому +4

      @@joycelima3051 Nope. They are not Brazilian.
      I can recognize Brazilians speaking English from 500 meters away.
      The Brazilians from Rio are the easiest to recognize speaking English due to their highly phonetic pronunciation.
      There is no way those 2 jet pilots are Brazilian.

    • @billpike-cn5pz
      @billpike-cn5pz Місяць тому +1

      @@yachtcaptain7320
      He sounds West African to me.

  • @DownTheRabbit-Hole
    @DownTheRabbit-Hole Місяць тому +7

    Language barrier is a problem here, but mainly this guy is not familiar with Phenom 300/G1000 ILS procedure.

    • @nikh9080
      @nikh9080 Місяць тому

      That pesky NAV/GPS button

  • @kenpalmer1965
    @kenpalmer1965 Місяць тому +6

    That guy really sounded like a bit if a dingbat, if I may say so. Following directions was not one of his strongest points!

  • @drewbrown7513
    @drewbrown7513 28 днів тому +1

    Having to add the 5 degrees for him is wild

  • @BadMonkeyTouring
    @BadMonkeyTouring Місяць тому +23

    This is why the FAA needs to do cursory inspections on all private and charter aircraft, both prior to and immediately after arriving. In Europe, we're faced with what is known as a SAFA Inspection. The inspector literally goes through everything to make sure we're 100% legal.

    • @kukulkanlordofcas4931
      @kukulkanlordofcas4931 Місяць тому +2

      Does this happen every time in Europe? Or randomly by chance? Because the FAA has inspectors that can perform a "ramp check". Can be caused by seeing risky or dangerous activity during the flight, or even just a random thing. And if it's a commercial flight, they're allowed to enter the plane and check most anything.

    • @sandysmithvideos228
      @sandysmithvideos228 Місяць тому +1

      The FAA field inspection will do very little to prevent this and similar incidents around the country. We sign reciprocal treaties with countries for licensing both maritime and aviation standards. They only work if everyone follows the same rules and standards.

    • @erintyres3609
      @erintyres3609 Місяць тому

      Crash investigations (especially for some non-US airlines) sometimes find that the pilots are not correctly trained and qualified. Investigators have found log book entries that are forged or missing.
      In this case, the plane is not an airliner. It could be that its owner is very rich, very busy, and bought the plane without putting in all the time and effort to learn everything that he needs to know.

  • @Teinteressabrasil
    @Teinteressabrasil 11 днів тому

    In a situation like this, as the life of the plane and the environment are at risk, it is better for someone with more patience to work on this communication.

  • @dalegreer3095
    @dalegreer3095 Місяць тому +6

    Is "landing gear disagreement" is Portuguese for "The captain was drunk so I thwacked him on the head"?

    • @ww2blackcat
      @ww2blackcat Місяць тому

      First thing I thought 😅

    • @kevinmoffatt
      @kevinmoffatt 20 днів тому +1

      They had to pull the chart to see if gear was required in Boston.

  • @Dexox2009
    @Dexox2009 27 днів тому +19

    As a member of the Brazilian community we would like to apologies for this one.
    He was instructed not to go to Boston. His English is still very broken.

    • @user-tm8jt2py3d
      @user-tm8jt2py3d 27 днів тому +5

      lol don't worry man, we aren't blaming all of Brazil, just trying to figure out why it went so bad

    • @Dexox2009
      @Dexox2009 26 днів тому +3

      @@user-tm8jt2py3d Yea i know. Still shameful though.

    • @julietoozie
      @julietoozie 13 днів тому

      @@Dexox2009 Obrigado.

    • @winderdias9098
      @winderdias9098 3 дні тому

      Não precisa puxar o saco dos gringos meu parceiro

  • @DrBozoEinstein
    @DrBozoEinstein 17 днів тому

    Scary. He's not driving his Beemer, this is the SKY, pal!

  • @nickdraddy101
    @nickdraddy101 26 днів тому +1

    language barriers are inconvenient but are a fact of life, sometimes you have to take extra steps to communicate with people who communicate differently than you are accustomed to. In my old job my coworkers would always complain when a non-english speaking customer would ask for assistance. They would run away not even trying to speak or listen to the customer and claim it's not their responsibility.
    Imagine if someone deaf/mute came up to you obviously needing assistance. Would you run away from them because you are not deaf/mute? No, you stand there awkwardly playing charades until you figure out how to help them. or use your phone translator/text app lmao

  • @lamylhammoudi103
    @lamylhammoudi103 Місяць тому +2

    Ignoring possible pilot deviation is wild 😅

  • @N1120A
    @N1120A Місяць тому +13

    This isnt just a problem with English, but also completely ignoring proper procedures.

  • @jamesl7477
    @jamesl7477 Місяць тому

    What he meant by “landing gear disagreement” was that the two of them couldn’t agree when to swing the gear.

  • @Part61Cowboy
    @Part61Cowboy Місяць тому +2

    How do you get this far into a flying career with comms like that 😂

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila 17 днів тому

      He's probably not that far into his career. Certainly not flying Internationally.

  • @redbovine
    @redbovine Місяць тому +15

    I’m not a pilot but I think I could follow directions better.

  • @joaov.m.oliveira9903
    @joaov.m.oliveira9903 7 днів тому +1

    Why is the audio on these super-expensive jet planes so horrible ? 😅

  • @JimmyBahia
    @JimmyBahia Місяць тому +3

    "Localizer and Glideslope at the same time?"

  • @alexandreabreupassos2560
    @alexandreabreupassos2560 28 днів тому +4

    He mention a landing gear issue. He never refused to follow instructions. This is a click bait video 🤬🤬🤬

  • @DownTheRabbit-Hole
    @DownTheRabbit-Hole Місяць тому +12

    This is the same incompetent pilot as a recording from klas on this same channel They need to prohibit this guy from usa airspace.

  • @luciano61321
    @luciano61321 Місяць тому +5

    Got the money to buy an airplane but don’t know the basics of the language..then puts the son to take over the radio. Why i’m not surprised.

    • @user-jv5pn8vl8s
      @user-jv5pn8vl8s Місяць тому

      Aconteceu. N é costume...temos Excelentes pilotos.

    • @user-jv5pn8vl8s
      @user-jv5pn8vl8s Місяць тому

      @@flying9249 hello. It's not because I'm Brazilian and married to a Portuguese man, having lived in both countries...but I can say: Portuguese Tap and Brazilian companies are great. Someone commented that the pilot of this flight would not even be Brazilian and it is possible. The level of English varies in Brazil, but I assume - and from what I've experienced - that the Pilots have language tests for approval... Mistakes or mistakes happen. ex: because of an American Legacy plane, a Gol1907 commercial flight crashed in the Amazon rainforest. EVERYONE died violently....but...the Legacy pilots are free. They were never held accountable. Did you know that?

    • @josephalberta1145
      @josephalberta1145 Місяць тому +1

      I doubt he owns that jet. Most jet pilots work for a company.

  • @NotMee45
    @NotMee45 Місяць тому

    I’m in Boston and have never even been on a plane, but I’m halfway through this video and it’s scary af

  • @PMantis013
    @PMantis013 4 дні тому

    As a brazilian, I'm very sorry, we're not that stupid.

  • @wood42shed
    @wood42shed Місяць тому +8

    Landing gear disagreement: he thought he could land fine with a nose full of gear, we disagreed.

    • @maxborisful
      @maxborisful Місяць тому

      I bet he was thinking co-pilots disagreement

  • @jahardin77
    @jahardin77 Місяць тому +6

    I feel like there were actually three pilots flying PBL on that approach. The last pilot sounded like a kid.

  • @AdrianoMoraes1974
    @AdrianoMoraes1974 9 днів тому

    If the pilot was dealing with landing gear problems, WE ALL KNOW that the crew's priority is to manage the critical situation of the aircraft, not to answer the radio !!! Or is it that only I know that ???

  • @miguelcpal2443
    @miguelcpal2443 16 днів тому +1

    A classic example of a foreign pilot with limited English skills. They might grasp only half of the messages, if that.
    When English isn't your first language, becoming fluent takes time. For a pilot, this can be extremely stressful, especially if they don't fly regularly or are in unfamiliar places. This is even more challenging for single-pilot aircraft with higher workloads.
    If you're an ATC and suspect this issue (pilots rarely admit they don't understand, except for frequent 'repeat, please' and ‘say again’), speak slowly, clearly, and keep messages concise. Save the reprimand for when they're safely on the ground. Reducing stress and complexity can save lives."

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf 8 днів тому +1

      I can speak and write/read English but could understand only half of what the controller said.

    • @miguelcpal2443
      @miguelcpal2443 8 днів тому

      @@User-jr7vf Standardized aviation phraseology is key to ensuring clear and precise communication between pilots and air traffic controllers (ATC). This not only helps to avoid misunderstandings but also allows other aircraft on the same frequency to maintain proper situational awareness. Repeating or "readback" of received instructions ensures that the message has been understood correctly.
      Using standardized language and avoiding abbreviations, colloquialisms, or slang ensures that all pilots, regardless of their proficiency in the language, can follow the conversation. This way, safety and efficiency in air traffic management are maintained.

  • @j.barbosaoliveirajr.9316
    @j.barbosaoliveirajr.9316 Місяць тому +26

    Being a Brazilian who is fluent in English, it comes across that the first pilot either didn't speak the language fluently or couldn't hear the directions form ATC correctly. Just disappointing!!!

    • @eduardocesar9747
      @eduardocesar9747 29 днів тому +1

      I feel the same way here, such a shame!

    • @douglasdeoliveira658
      @douglasdeoliveira658 29 днів тому +11

      Dude give the guys a break! I’m a pilot I’ve been flying in United States for 8 years and not all have been pieces of cake, you’re flying in a country that has a way more crowded space than Brazil with flight controllers that’s doesn’t care if you’re local or not, I never had a violation but definitely have done my mistakes, so I’ll tell you, it takes time to be fluent/proficient on flying here!

    • @swainlach4587
      @swainlach4587 29 днів тому +2

      ​@@douglasdeoliveira658sorry no excuse

    • @somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
      @somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 29 днів тому +3

      @@douglasdeoliveira658 I’ve flown all over the world and this was some weak sauce! If your English skills are this poor, stay home, or rather don’t fly, as aviation is entirely english. I’ll be the first to admit that certain US controllers can behave poorly, but that wasn’t the case here. Just imagine this crew in a part of the world that doesn’t hand hold like the US can and with another non native English speaker.
      English proficiency card revoked!

    • @leandrobragasp
      @leandrobragasp 29 днів тому +1

      Empatia zero….

  • @GFSwinger1693
    @GFSwinger1693 Місяць тому +9

    What a Charlie Foxtrot.

    • @gitargr8
      @gitargr8 Місяць тому +4

      Controller was probably thinking Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

  • @Urbanbenelux
    @Urbanbenelux Місяць тому +9

    Those criticising the pilots, now watch it without subtitles. The ATCO's are incomprehensible, dont articulate and use non-standard request like turn 5 degrees right. ATCO'S not helpful and make matters worse for the pilots and themselves, totally unprofessional.

    • @BruPadov
      @BruPadov Місяць тому +4

      Exactly! I'm Brazilian and fluent in English, but the transmission and speed of the orders confused me. If it weren't for the subtitles, I think 80% of the people criticizing the pilots wouldn't know what was said either.

    • @flightschoollifeschool5007
      @flightschoollifeschool5007 28 днів тому +1

      "Turn 5 deg. right" is not non-standard. It is very common.

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf 8 днів тому +1

      @@BruPadov Eu também. Impressionante, entendi só metade, e olhe lá.

  • @psneves
    @psneves Місяць тому +6

    my goodness. U know what this is called right? "Get the cheapest you can get."

  • @SeanColbath
    @SeanColbath Місяць тому +4

    What happens in the case that ATC and the pilots simply can not communicate? Can ATC reach out to someone who speaks Portuguese? I acknowledge that that simply should not be necessary, but this came close.

    • @aeroba-tico
      @aeroba-tico Місяць тому +1

      That should not happen before flying internationally a pilot must pass an english assesment that rates their comunication skills from 1 to 6 being 4 the minimum required to fly internationally. these pilots likely have the level 4. if you have pilots willing to break the rules and fly without that then you are in much bigger problems dealing with someone that even understanding the regulation is not willing to follow it

    • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
      @OneTequilaTwoTequila 17 днів тому

      @@aeroba-tico Whoever gave this idiot his English Language Proficiency rating needs to have his head checked. I've flown internationally for nearly 30 years. I've heard a lot of bad English on the radio. This guy is horrific.

  • @megadavis5377
    @megadavis5377 20 днів тому

    It’s like trying to control a cat.

  • @kmoore02809
    @kmoore02809 Місяць тому +25

    First pilot seemed to be having language difficulties. When they switched, things got much better.

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +7

      Exactly.

    • @g_pazzini
      @g_pazzini Місяць тому

      also he seems difficult on handling the comm… but he can fly the airplane.. that’s why they switched position the 2nd time.

  • @OneSpeedGo
    @OneSpeedGo 28 днів тому +1

    What was the actual outcome of this situation? Hire some Cape Air pilots and send those 2 back to flight school. Language barrier would mean to just ask for help. Ayuda Me!!!

  • @beaudure01
    @beaudure01 18 днів тому

    I’m not reassured by the notion that a pilot who already seems overwhelmed has to drop everything to copy a phone number. Maybe that process can be modernized soon?

  • @sparky6200
    @sparky6200 Місяць тому +1

    Who signed this guy off as "English Proficient"?!?!?

  • @NuncNuncNuncNunc
    @NuncNuncNuncNunc 10 днів тому

    Title is a little overblown. Pilots experienced difficulty and chose proper priority, aviate. Sounds like they switched PIC, fixed problem, and then continued on as normal.

  • @FlyTaylor
    @FlyTaylor Місяць тому +24

    I really don’t understand why it’s so difficult to debrief your charts and airport prior to getting in the air??? He clearly didn’t debrief a damn thing smh

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +9

      He was not prepared at all.

    • @Airpaycheck
      @Airpaycheck Місяць тому +14

      @@Flight_FollowerDebrief is for after the flight. Brief is prior to. He probably got debriefed after he landed. I doubt he knows what a deviation is. Probably back out of the country before they could find him.

    • @sirtango1
      @sirtango1 Місяць тому

      If this was his original destination he didn’t brief at all. If he was destined for another airport and his secondary was experiencing bad weather too, it could’ve been a factor. He might’ve thought he was getting a reward and needed to call the number to claim his prize! 😂

    • @crazyralph6386
      @crazyralph6386 Місяць тому +1

      @@Airpaycheckyep, they’ll find a janitor at Embraer to deliver their jets to the US, and are immediately on the next commercial flight out of the country.

    • @brandonadams7837
      @brandonadams7837 Місяць тому +2

      Brief - prior to flight. Debrief - after flight.

  • @EduardoMCfly
    @EduardoMCfly 14 днів тому

    Just like in IVAO… 😂

  • @cpy
    @cpy Місяць тому

    7:10 "looks like you blew though a little bit there"

    • @zdenekkindl2778
      @zdenekkindl2778 Місяць тому +1

      Yes. Born english speaker can adjust and speak more clearly, like he has been tought in school and not like he spoke to his buddies in a pub previous evening!

  • @panaceiasuberes6464
    @panaceiasuberes6464 17 днів тому

    8:52 "Landing gear disagreement" means "estámos borrados de tanta caipirinha" in Brazilian.

  • @ardeladimwit
    @ardeladimwit Місяць тому +13

    FBL sounds stoned out of gourd

    • @Flight_Follower
      @Flight_Follower  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah

    • @wagmiorngmi
      @wagmiorngmi Місяць тому

      @@Flight_Follower he was off his face on coke. Always sounds the same when he comes into Canela here in Brasil.

  • @georgybest5135
    @georgybest5135 Місяць тому

    Brazilian Nuts this episode dude.

  • @TM-hl9kz
    @TM-hl9kz Місяць тому +22

    Terrible. English is the international standard language for civil aviation. If you can't speak and understand it, you have no business flying an aircraft--anywhere in the world, let alone in the US.
    A "landing gear issue." I hate it when that happens! Good one.

    • @carlosponchio1869
      @carlosponchio1869 Місяць тому +3

      Have you ever tried to listen to another language thru an airplane radio? even American pilots have to go to "say again" to these ATC types. You can have English Level 10 but NE corridor are full of a-holes, trying to ruin your day.

    • @tim1398
      @tim1398 Місяць тому +1

      Most aviation is done in the local language for the local airlines. English is not a widely spoke language in Brazil, I'm sure their ATC is using Portuguese for the locals. And to be fair the big-city ATC english is like listening to an auctioneer.

  • @lpls
    @lpls 20 днів тому

    PS-FBL is a Phenom 300. My guess is that the plane's owner is flying it and is impaired somehow.

  • @user-tm1ij3tr6p
    @user-tm1ij3tr6p 13 днів тому +1

    how about letting him land how can he call anyone when he is landing.

  • @Steve-pk9ok
    @Steve-pk9ok Місяць тому +12

    I live in an area where the flights come over my house for incoming and outgoing depending on the wind direction. These types of pilots scare the hell out of me.

    • @chizzo777
      @chizzo777 Місяць тому

      Why? Can you hear them talking?

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf 8 днів тому

      No need to be scared. Pilot has visual sight of what lies ahead during approach. Even if he can't understand what ATC says, he will still see terrain/houses and push up

  • @davidmaisel8062
    @davidmaisel8062 Місяць тому +2

    I have lived in Brazil for 20 years. The way English language courses worked here for years is that teachers need to take training (not just pass a test) by a Brazilian institute even if they are native speakers with foreign university graduations. This was implemented to protect Brazilian English teachers from unfair competition..

  • @thepinktreeclub
    @thepinktreeclub 27 днів тому

    yea if y'all really looking for the cause of it, you'd focus on other adjectives about the pilot, i think his incompetence is more important to be cited than the place he was born in.

  • @victorbalatademoura7398
    @victorbalatademoura7398 26 днів тому

    The Co younger and probably with better English took the radio lol “better now”

  • @bluehorseshoe9216
    @bluehorseshoe9216 Місяць тому +9

    This man sounds fatigued! also, when a pilot deviation occurs why not let them get on the ground first before giving the warning and the number? all it does in flight is increase stress and lead to more mistakes.

  • @HanifNGX
    @HanifNGX Місяць тому +2

    PSFBL Say “cancel IFR”

  • @umby1763
    @umby1763 Місяць тому +6

    ATC in the US shows always zero emphaty and zero “no blame culture” (saying “possible pilot deviation” on frequency?!)
    Speaking slower, using and limiting only to standard ICAO phraseology (which clearly they don’t use or either know) without overwhelming the poor pilot it would have provided a different outcome.
    Thinking that not everyone is American helps.

  • @gyrowave
    @gyrowave Місяць тому +1

    Some newbies english speakers are good while they can control the dialogue, if the other party deviates, they will try to translate on the go, and evidently he lost his nerve, the other guy with better understanding took over and made a few minor mistakes while maintaining the approach withing reasonable parameters! A little ego bruising for the first guy but all safe in the ground! I like to point out the recent accident with that girl in Houston, she was native but the lingo got her confused and she stoped aviating!

  • @louisstennes3
    @louisstennes3 Місяць тому

    I know little of this subject except as a flying passenger but I would assume Boston Logan is a less congested airport compared to JFK, Chicago, LA or SFO and Heathrow or say Charles DeGaulle , in France. Can you imagine ATC trying to get this guy on the ground at one of those congested airports?

  • @SabinoFNeto
    @SabinoFNeto 22 дні тому +2

    Control should have more patient and be more clear with instructions....

  • @BRuas9080
    @BRuas9080 29 днів тому +2

    ATC should have spoken more slowly.

  • @PatrickSBellSr
    @PatrickSBellSr 16 днів тому

    This is PAINFUL to watch and listen to. 😳

  • @pauldavies4870
    @pauldavies4870 Місяць тому +14

    i am exhausted.

  • @PILOTCOSTA
    @PILOTCOSTA 6 днів тому

    and thats why an ICAO level 4 is not enough... also pilot situation awareness was lacking

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Місяць тому +4

    I think that Brazilian pilot is pissing off the air traffic controller for not doing what the air traffic controller wants him to do

    • @lasagnapotato3853
      @lasagnapotato3853 Місяць тому +7

      You might be on to something

    • @erintyres3609
      @erintyres3609 Місяць тому +1

      An important rule is that the pilots must read back (and follow!) any air traffic control instructions. When the controller says, "Papa Sierra Foxtro Bravo Lima, maintain one zero thousand feet", he expects them to immediately reply, "maintaining one zero thousand feet Papa Sierra Foxtrot Bravo Lima". Not replying at all, or ignoring them, or making an irrelevant reply is completely unacceptable.
      Also, if the pilots discover a landing gear problem, they ought to say, "Papa Sierra Foxtro Bravo Lima will fly missed approach, landing gear problem". They can't just wander around the sky without making or answering any calls.

    • @nikh9080
      @nikh9080 Місяць тому

      It's Capt obvious

    • @musicalaviator
      @musicalaviator Місяць тому

      @@erintyres3609 I wonder if the landing gear problem was that they hadn't selected landing gear down, and the "too low, gear" warnings started blaring in the cockpit

  • @evanlinn5869
    @evanlinn5869 Місяць тому +48

    None of their callouts were remotely close to being complete or standardized. These folks have no business operating in our national airspace system.

    • @chizzo777
      @chizzo777 Місяць тому +2

      How dare you?

    • @pesto12601
      @pesto12601 Місяць тому +5

      "these folks".. really? Ugh!

    • @nuclearrabbit1
      @nuclearrabbit1 Місяць тому

      These folks, as in English illiterate? Absolutely correct, man. These woke idiots are gonna argue that anybody can go fly a plane?

    • @rafborrero
      @rafborrero Місяць тому +9

      @@pesto12601These folks = the two pilots

    • @ra2186
      @ra2186 Місяць тому

      I hear Americans screw up like this daily on this channel.

  • @foggy71
    @foggy71 Місяць тому +2

    "Okay"?

  • @MatthewSeamans
    @MatthewSeamans Місяць тому +1

    The pilot sounds sedated.