098 - Has Germany Lost WW2 Already in Mid-1941? - WW2 - July 11 1941
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- Germany keeps advancing on the eastern front, and yet by now, transport and supply problems are seriously undermining the capability of the German spearheads, even as they pull further away from the infantry. The Syria-Lebanon campaign is coming to an end, though, and an armistice is proposed which would give the Allies victory if accepted.
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if I boost to the 1941 tier, is there still time to get my name in the credits for (spoilers) pearl harbour?
I made the video you requested
Does Volhynian genocide denial lead to a ban too? If so, why isn't it included in your list?
Imagine being an enlisted infantry in an army known for its rapid advances and having to hike across a russia. I mean, I get the reasons why, but still. Being told "yeah, the tanks are like 100-200 km ahead. Come on. Let's catch up".
@@jakubcesarzdakos5442 it's just common sense stuff. Was there a mass killing of people? That's kind of a problem by most metrics.
I'm sure Budyonny will stop the germans, his mustache will leave the enemy in awe.
It's a mustache that screams, "Watch me Out-Conrad Conrad!"
Apparently he thought it was still WWI.
@@RandomDudeOne BAAHH
his mustache is straight from the WW1 school of thoughts
How are you here two days before it was uploaded
11:18
Indy:
"On the fifth. The Equadorian Peruvian war began."
Hoi4 players:
Impossible.
Peru has joined the Axis.
@@timothyhouse1622 *Venezuela
ah yes we all know south america does nothing but watch and be boring...south america really needs some sort of revamp.
@@manuelaparcedo417 Play Kaiserreich. Everything is revamped and made fun. In my current playthrough Argentina became fascist and declared war on Uraguay, coincidentally right as every single neighbor either formed an alliance with Uraguay, or declared war on Argentina for unrelated reasons. Complicated politics I don't wanna explain rn. Within a week of them invading, all of their neighbors other than Brazil declared war. I left the game last night with Argentina outnumbered and surrounded, I wonder how it's gonna play out when it's over.
lol I had no idea those countries went to war. (•_ • )
13:26 "how do you administer them all?
*This is War Against Humanity, a subset of World War 2 In Real Time. I'm Spartacus Olsson...*
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well, first you have to separate the Fleas from the Rats
and then ...
F
Step #1: Put them in big barbed-wire pens
Step #2: ?????
Step #3: PROFIT!!!!!
(apologies for the joke being in bad taste, but it seems the Germans did even less planning than the underwear gnomes...)
once you have those fleas and rats separated you're going to need to dig some trenches it's a war of course you know how to dig a trench now start digging
"If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined." Pyrrhus of Epirus
Pyrrhic victory
France ww1
Yup.
Indy knows his fan base too well...
😂😂😂
How are you here 2 days earlier than was released
@@dbkarman Patreon supporters (TimeGhost Army fans) get it a few days early.
M Kid patreon
Especially about the Ecuador-Peruvian War
It is absolutely terrifying to think how much research goes into accurately representing the movement of all the squares that represent the forces on the maps
David Glantz Baby, masterful Historian of the Soviet-German War David Glantz
German OKW: Pfft, we got this in the bag!
Japan, glancing at China, then back to OKW: AreYouSureAboutThatMeme.gif
German generals at the front: This is not going as easily as we thought... Can we get some help here? Hello? Can none of you hear me? We’ve got some major issues here! Hello!? German OKW: Yes, things are going amazing! I am so awesome! Thank you!
*surprised Pikachu meme*
Although not quite the same. Japan never destroyed mass concentrations of Chinese Armies or tank forces.
W.E. Rob mostly because there was no need to destroy something that didn’t really exist.... the Chinese army’s first armored division wasn’t founded until 1946 and they only ever had one mechanized infantry division throughout the whole war. As for the mass concentration of troops... idk, Manchuria, most of northeastern China, and pretty much the entire Chinese pacific coast might beg to differ
Eastory’s maps are very well done, especially for this episode
Eastory knows their business, don't think anyone could argue that.
@SuperKami Guru true
Yes, they give one a much better appreciation of the "messiness" of the front, something that you can never truly get from maps provided in a book. Unless, of course, one set them up like a cartoon flip book. Then again, having a book with over 300 pages just to cover one year of the war might not be a good idea.
yes, loving how the maps show not just a "front" but the individual fingers of Panzer advance. makes the whole narrative of panzer advance, ground troops lagging behoind, pockets, and pincers and counter-pincers super clear
The movments of the various divisions are very well done, I have to slow the playing speed so I can fully appreciate the detail.
If we don’t get a day-by-day series on the Peruvian-Ecuadorean war, I’m rioting
I feel the same way about the 100 Years War.
Basically went like this: the one peruvian soldier eat some beans, farted and lit his farts on fire. The one ecuadorian soldier accused him of breaking Geneva convention for the use of chemical weapons and started to throw coconuts over the border.
This tie belongs firmly in the "kitsch" category, but that doesn't mean I can't like it. 3/5
kluge: pls stop going so fast
guderian: *no*
No u
Kluge: Stop it! You can't outpace your own infantry support!
Guderian: Lul panzer goes VROOOOOOOOM
@@Candyrock87
LMFAO! 😂 🤣 😅
@@Candyrock87 Wehraboo filth.
@@rocklord16 He was literally making a joke about how German panzer units ran far ahead their infantry support, suffering as a result. How does that make him a Wehraboo?
Reply comment to all the people bringing up Napoleon and his invasion into Russia in the comments. The German military did actually extensively review the records of Napoleon's invasion into Russia in order to try to look ahead to what they may face.
It is just like how the US military extensively looked into the USSR's invasion into Afghanistan when the US was forced to invade Afghanistan in 2001. Every responsible military looks at any information they can to give them a edge. But even if you do so it doesn't mean you won't encounter the same issues.
@Mars Attacks You have to judge winning a war by the goals of the war. The US goal in going into Afghanistan was to take out Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Ladin which was completed. Sticking around to prevent the Taliban from taking back over was not a original goal. If when the US leaves and the Taliban can kick the government forces out of the country like when the USSR left Afghanistan they can. The US shouldn't care if Afghanistan is a democracy or rules by the Taliban. If the people of Afghanistan want to remain free they should fight the Taliban off on their on. The US has given them the equipment to do so. But if the Taliban then let Al Qaeda comeback in and allow them to start planning attacks against the US again the US can then just go back in and kick Al Qaeda out again. Al Qaeda being in Afghanistan is a actual concern of the US.
@@PhillyPhanVinny Then what is the point of winning the war tactically if you can't win it strategically. This is exactly like the same situation over and over again with Napoleon in Russia, Hitler in France, and America in Vietnam, and that is just because you've won a war against them and defeated them badly, doesn't mean that they'll recognise the new political status quo, especially if they've got nothing to lose.
@@PhillyPhanVinny Delusional and overly ignorant.
The US created Al-Qaeda themselves to fight off the Soviets lol
@@PhillyPhanVinny This is gonna be like South Vietnam again...
@@forthepotentates7526 but they made it indirectly. Osama broke away from the Mujahadeen to create his own cell
In the light of the orders it had received, the German army had no interest in keeping hundreds of thousands of Soviet prisoners of war alive. Hitler and the army leadership had already ordered the Soviet political commissars who accompanied the Red Army to be shot on sight, and the commanders on the ground carried out these orders, often handing them over to the SS for ‘special treatment’. Tens of thousands were taken to concentration camps in Germany and killed there by firing squads. During the first weeks, many ordinary troops were also shot immediately on capture as well. ‘We are only taking very few prisoners now,’ wrote German corporal Albert Neuhaus to his wife on 27 June 1941, ‘and you can imagine what that means.’ There was, as
many soldiers reported in their letters, ‘no pardon’ for Red Army troops who gave themselves up in the first weeks of the campaign. The fate of those who were spared was not much better. In October 1941 Polish doctor Zygmunt Klukowski witnessed a column of 15,000 Soviet prisoners of war passing through his district. He was shocked by what he saw:
"They all looked like skeletons, just shadows of human beings, barely moving. I have never in my life seen anything like this. Men were falling to the street; the stronger ones were carrying others, holding them up by their arms. They looked like starved animals, not like people. They were fighting for scraps of apples in the gutter, not paying any attention to the Germans, who would beat them with rubber truncheons. Some crossed themselves and knelt, begging for food. German
soldiers from the convoy beat them without mercy. They beat not only prisoners but also people who stood by and tried to pass them some food. After the macabre unit passed by, several horse-drawn wagons carried prisoners who were unable to walk. This unbelievable treatment of human beings is only possible under German ethics.
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Many Soviet prisoners of war died from hunger and exhaustion on their way to the camps. Field Marshal Walter von Reichenau ordered his guards ‘to shoot all prisoners who collapse’. Some were transported by rail, but only open freight cars were available for the purpose. The results, particularly as winter set in, were catastrophic. Closed wagons were only deployed on 22 November 1941 after 1,000 out of 5,000 prisoners on a train transport from Army Group Centre froze to death on the journey. Even so, the next month an official German report noted that ‘between 25 and 70 per cent of prisoners’ died en route to the camps, not least because no one troubled to give them any
food. The camps that were erected behind the lines hardly deserved the name. Many were just open fields crudely fenced in by barbed wire. Almost no preparations had been made for dealing with such huge numbers of prisoners, and nothing was done to supply the prisoners with food or medication. One prisoner who escaped and made his way back to the Soviet lines told his police interrogators that he had been penned in a camp in Poland consisting of twelve blocks each housing between 1,500 and 2,000 prisoners. The German guards used the inmates as target practice and set their dogs on them, placing bets on which dog would inflict the worst injuries. The prisoners were starving. When one of them died, the others fell upon the corpse and devoured it. On one occasion, twelve
men were shot for cannibalism. All of them were lice-ridden, and typhus spread rapidly. Their light summer uniforms were totally inadequate to protect them from the bitter winter cold. By February 1942 only 3,000 out of the original 80,000 were left alive.
Evans, Richard J.. The Third Reich at War (The History of the Third Reich)
The same experience was repeated in other camps behind the line. Visiting Minsk on 10 July 1941, Xaver Dorsch, a civil servant in the Todt Organization, found that the army had set up a camp for 100,000 prisoners of war and 40,000 civilians, almost the entire male population of the city, ‘in an area roughly the size of the Wilhelmplatz’ in Berlin:
"The prisoners are packed so tightly together in this area that they can hardly move and have to relieve
themselves where they stand. They are guarded by a company-strong unit of active soldiers. The small size of the guard unit means that it can only control the camp by using the most brutal level of force. The problem of feeding the prisoners of war is virtually insoluble. Some of them have been without food for six to eight days. Their hunger has led to a deadly apathy in which they only have one obsession left: to get something to eat . . . The only language possible for the weak guard unit, which has to carry out its duties day and night without relief, is that of the gun, and they make ruthless use of it.
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Evans, Richard J.. The Third Reich at War (The History of the Third Reich)
7th July 1941 , USSR , Stalin replaced top army commanders, putting Marshal Kliment Voroshilov in command of the Northern Front, Marshal Semyon Timoshenko in the Central Front, and Marshal Semyon Budyonny on the Southern Front. On the same day, the German 4.Panzer Group captured Pskov, Russia as it moved towards Leningrad. Russian and German tanks clash at Ostrov on a crucial junction to Leningrad. German 20th Panzer Division crossed the Daugava River (Western Dvina), threatening to outflank the Polotsk Fortified Region in Byelorussia.
7th July 1941 , Reversing former statements, former Soviet Foreign Minister Maxim Litvinov broadcasted from Moscow in English that the Soviet Union and the United Kingdom must work together against Germany.
7-8 July 191 1941 , Cologne , Germany 114 RAF Wellington bombers attack Cologne , Germany in night time.
7th July 1941 , UK , After sundown, German bombers attacked Southampton, England, United Kingdom
7th July 1941 , Syria , Lebenon , Australian troops outflanked French positions at Damour, Lebanon.
7th July 1941 , Iceland , Iceland, coerced by the United Kingdom, allowed the United States to oversee the defense of the island. US 1st Marine Brigade arrived later on the same day and began to relieve the British garrison
And that answers how do they feed the prisoners. They don't. Nazis implemented their hunger plan concerning conquered Soviet territories and the name is pretty self-explanatory.
8th July 1941 , British B-17 bombers (purchased by British Ministry of Air from USA) were deployed on a combat mission for the first time as three of them were ordered to attack Wilhelmshaven, Germany.
8th July 1941 , Jews in the Baltic states were forced to wear the Star of David
8th July 1941 , Baltics , German troops from Army Group North captured Pskov a mere 184 miles from Leningrad, Russia. On the day of the capture of Pskov, at Hitler’s East Prussian headquarters at Rastenburg, General Halder noted in his diary: ‘Führer is firmly determined to level Moscow and Leningrad to the ground, and to dispose fully of their population, which otherwise we shall have to feed during the winter.’
8th July 1941 , Before dawn, RAF bombers attacked Munster, Germany. During the day, German anti-aircraft guns began arriving at the city in response to the recent successive night bombings.
8th July 1941 , USSR , Rationing of basic foodstuff begins in Moscow, Leningrad and other major Soviet Union cities.
8th July 1941 , After sundown, German bombers conducted a light attack on Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom.
8th July 1941 , Syria , Australian troops cut off the road leading into the northern part of Beirut, Lebanon. South of Beirut, Australian 2/2nd Pioneer Battalion and elements of the 6th Divisional Cavalry Regiment also approached Beirut.
8th July 1941 , Mediterranean Sea , Royal Navy submarine HMS Torbay shells and sinks two light steamers carrying German troops off Greece
@@merdiolu Hey man, where do you get those events from?
I imagine Napoleon looking down from heavens this week , smiling at poor state of roads in Russia , rain turning everything on the ground to mud , turmoil at rear of Eastern Front plus strengthening enemy resistance and saying "This is always how it starts no matter how formidabble your invasion army is"
More like glancing sideways at this point... this is Hell on Earth.
*NapoLeon, as a DeMonic Spirit, Is NOW in HeLL FIRE for ALL ETERNITY!!!!*
You've heard of Napoleon, but get ready for Napping Leon
Napolean wasn't a bad person compared to others in that time period. That doesn't justify his actions, but if they caused him to go to hell, then going to hell must've been the norm.
with Karl XII by his side looking at the germans
Vichy considers the Free French traitors...then turns around and asks the Germans what to do
Could have been worse, they could have asked the Italians.....
If you are in a quarrel and want to make a move, you better ask the person that (while not involved in this one) in the meantime is holding a knife to your balls, what your next move should be...
Well technically they were since the French government based in Vichy was the internationally recognised government of France (by the French people as well as the USA and neutral nations etc) so army officers working with the British to fight against the legal French government would be technically traitors - France had officially surrendered so the Free French were fighting Britain's war at the time not France's.
@@jamesevans1890 There is no way Roosevelt considered a nazi puppet state to be the legitimate government of France. Anyone calling the Free French traitors were either themselves traitors or wish the nazis won WW2.
@@tremedar Lol - it was De Gaulle Roosevelt detested. From Wikipedia:
The French State, popularly known as Vichy France, as led by Marshal Philippe Pétain after the Fall of France in 1940 before Nazi Germany, was quickly recognized by the Allies, as well as by the Soviet Union, until 30 June 1941 and Operation Barbarossa. However France broke with the United Kingdom after the destruction of the French Fleet at Mers-el-Kebir. Canada maintained diplomatic relations until the occupation of Southern France (Case Anton) by Germany and Italy in November 1942.[1]
USA specifically: The United States granted Vichy full diplomatic recognition, sending Admiral William D. Leahy to France as ambassador. President Roosevelt and Secretary of State Cordell Hull hoped to use American influence to encourage those elements in the Vichy government opposed to military collaboration with Germany. The Americans also hoped to encourage Vichy to resist German war demands, such as for the fleet, air bases in French-mandated Syria or to move war supplies through French territories in North Africa. The essential American position was that France should take no action not explicitly required by the armistice terms that could adversely affect Allied efforts in the war. The Americans ended relations when Germany occupied all of France in late 1942.[6] The American position towards Vichy France and de Gaulle was especially hesitant and inconsistent. Roosevelt disliked Charles de Gaulle, and agreed with Ambassador Leahy's view that he was an "apprentice dictator."[7]
This Rokossovsky guy, I feel he's going places...
No, he is insignificant. Clearly he will never do anything of note
He becomes a Marshal of the Soviet Union and is one of the great Soviet commanders of the war. He was actually Georgi Zhukov's superior officer in the 1930s.
"You've launched a gargantuan offensive on your enemy, sending millions of troops forth to crush him"
I, one teenage girl, did all that?
That's quite an accomplishment. Your parents must be proud. Or appalled.
well done
never underestimate the power of the force
Yes.
Yes.
I love that Conrad is in the background just being incompetent as always!
Luigi Cadorna is jealous
As WWII was a continuation of WWI and Konrad was signifigant in conflagrating WWI the portrait is appropriate.
Kluge : noooo you can't cross the river without infantry support.
Heinz Chaderian: haha panzer go vroom
I'm pretty that if it wasn't against regulations he will have all painted red. :)
😂
@@marcuskylemarcuskyle222 of course. Red makes you go faster. That's something we all know
A preemptive attack by Indy onto the comment section to prevent the comments from being too angry at him. Only time will tell if this was a success.
He stole our whines
blockmasterscott “standard measuring system”
The standard system is metric for most of the world. I understand that some Americans and older British people may need a translation but like let’s be honest. METRIC IS BETTER end of argument
I was gonna be mad about you not mentioning the Great Ecuadorian-Peruvian War, but you said it so well done
My disappointment would have been immeasurable and my day would have been ruined
What exactly was so great about it? The war was essentially a David v.s. Goliath clash, without the Cinderella ending. Regardless of who started the war the fact was that the Peruvians had the larger naval, air, and Tank force during the conflict. There was no reasonable way for the Peruvians to not devastate their neighbor. I think the Chaco War of the mid 30's is more deserving of a "Great" title due to the longevity and forces displayed during the course of the conflict.
@@nonscpo87 sometimes i don't like being in the history community of the internet, because it seems that sometimes people can't take a joke
I wasn't expecting it to get a mention but the fact Indy took the time to reference it really shows how much attention to detail this series has.
Review Brah feels the same way.
Better watch out Stalin, here come the Italians! The war is surely as good as over now.
Italians made it all the way to Stalingrad. Not many,to be fair.
lol they are worse off now with the Italians.
Officer: Bad news, the Italians have joined the war!
Hitler: Well now that's not so bad, an infantry brigade or two should take care of them.
Officer: No no you don't understand they're on OUR side!
The spirit of Luigi Cadorna will lead them to victory on the I̶s̶o̶n̶z̶o̶ Volga!
Not the great conquerers of King Zog's Albania
9:15 that would make for a fine cast of a comedy movie, just change Voroshilov for Zhukov and Krushev and it's perfect
Its konev i believe
Voroshilov is good for a comedy. He is the Division-spammer...
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“Stalin: Stop sending people to kill me! We’ve already captured five of them, one with a bomb and another with a rifle… If you don’t stop sending killers, I’ll send one to Moscow, and I won’t have to send another” Josip Broz Tito
Probably fake
At this point, who doesn't know about this? I literally see it on every video/post where Tito is mentioned.
@@konstantinkelekhsaev302 Probably, but it still makes a good story.
Of course it's fake, tito ain't a dumbass
Every time I see that shot of Guderian, I can't help but think he looks like a movie star who plays hard-boiled action anti-heros.
I was oddly enough thinking something similar.
well, thats kind if what he did, minus the movie star 😂
I can't unsee it now
Thanks Indy for mentioning "La Guerra del '41", I know it's not technically a part of WWII, and just another border war between Ecuador & Peru, but it's still nice to see it get a mentioned given the timeline it takes place in.
P.S. For anybody curious about the War of 41, it was one of many borders wars fought between Ecuador & Peru. Both nations held disputes over a region in the Amazon since independence from Spain, and essentially Peru over time won control over the region. The border wars are why Peru is so big and why Ecuador is so geographically small.
Well, Peru just tried to recover in the North what they lost to Chile in the South in the war of 1879-1883!! It was much easier to defeat Ecuador than Chile, a very Prussian country...
@@danmartin5178 So two wrongs make right? It seems to me that most Latin American countries had border disputes of some capacity or another: Mexico had a dispute with US, Mexico with Guatemala, Guatemala with Belize, El Salvador with Honduras, Venezuela with Guayana, Colombia with Peru, Peru with Chile, Chile with Argentina, Chile with Bolivia, Bolivia with Paraguay, Paraguay with all it's neighbors, and if you count the Falkland Islands dispute then Argentina with Britain. So yeah the Western Hemisphere had a ton of these disputes.
@@nonscpo87 Yes, you are right, but "Guayana" was not a country, it was British Guiana, and in 1896 it nearly cost a war (the third!) between the United States and the United Kingdom. As for Argentina, it already had a war with Britain even before that country existed as such, when it still was a Spanish colony, in 1806-07. Mexico had a very strange war with France in 1838, the "guerra de los pasteles", plus the Emperor Maximilian (Mexico's Second Empire) adventure supported by France's Second Empire (!!) in 1861-67. And so on and on...
@@danmartin5178 So it's my understanding that Venezuela hasn't fully abandon it's disputed eastern claims, meaning Guayana inherited that mess. As far as Argentina goes, they've never dropped their claim on Las Malvinas, even adding their claim to their constitution when the military dropped from power after the war.
@@nonscpo87 Claims, claims, claims... Spain claims Gibraltar, Morocco claims Spanish Ceuta and Melilla, some Arabs claim the whole of southern Spain...
I'm can't wait for the chronological videos documenting the Ecuador & Peruvian War day by day!
They'll get to it right after their day-by-day coverage of the Great Emu War. That should be good for at least a dozen episodes.
That's where we need a *laugh* emoji.
What's there to cover? The battles in the Amazon region basically come down to the Peruvians launching their planes and tanks against poorly armed Ecuadorian's. Sure the conflict deserves a standalone special episode, but that's probably about it.
@@nonscpo87 The llamas, man. Think of the llamas.....
@@Raskolnikov70
Battle Llamas for the win!
This episode is just filled with so much foreshadowing like damn who knew the most suspenseful TV show right now would be about an event that has already happened and has long been over and done?
Italy: "Don't worry Germany! Our troops are here to help in the Soviet Invasion!"
Germany: "Okay. If we need to do any retreating, we'll let you know."
Italy: "HEY!"
Haha so funny!
You are cringe stfu.
TBH I don't remember any Italian troops when Operation Bragation kicked in and the entire Army Group Center was deleted by the Soviets...
At this point the retreating experts are actually the British.
@@nicolaspalacios4189 hey we don't retreat, we evacuate.
So after a month of binge watching the series I have finally come to the present! I dont know how I didnt find this before but anyways Im SO looking forward to the next four years. This is the most ambitious project about the WW2 I have ever seen and Im so glad to now witness it in real time
"next four years"
Sometimes you just have to stop and remember the whole insanity of this entire mess.
After rewatching The Great War in realtime series earlier this spring, I got a good chuckle over that portrait to Conrad von Hötzendorf over Indy's shoulder. I guess he can't resist watching over another world war, at least he's not in charge of anything this time.
7:30 best battle map ever lol
I hope we get lots of stuff about Soviet partisans (next year I guess), I was reading about the absolutely massive numbers and highly organized resistance sometimes fighting full battles and controlling territory which runs rather counter to my typically Western romanticized view of the French Maquis groups. I also only recently found out who Valentina Grizodubova is, and she is like my new hero, perhaps an idea for a biography episode.
On a personal note, now that Barbarossa has started and the Nazis are reaching Kiev I find myself somewhat dreading the War Against Humanity episodes that are to come. Now comes the time where an already brutal war reaches unfathomable levels of human cruelty.
The newer books Ive raid have said the impact of Partisans is over stated. Apparently, they did not have a major impact on German operations. Im guessing its because the Germans had many Ukrainian volunteers to fight against the Communists so they didnt need to transfer as many front lie troops to guard duty as first thought.
Can we get a special on the Ecuadorian-Peruvian War?? This HOI 4 mod finally has action in South America.
I like this idea, there should be enough events to warrant it. Just the story of the Czech Tanks the Peruvians went out if their way to purchase for this conflict alone would cover a decent portion of the video.
@@nonscpo87 I'm Peruvian and I didn't know about those Czech Tanks. To be honest, I don't even remember if that Ecuadorian-Peruvian War (we had more than one) is taught in history class ir our schools (and least in the public ones).
@@RodriVargasS So I forget where I read it, but my understanding is that the Peruvian high command sent an order to a Czech factory for a Tank that could work in high altitude environments (makes sense taking the Andes into account). The order was placed before the Czech-German war, and I believe they got the tanks out of the country before the conflict. To answer your second question in 1941 you guys had less than a dozen tanks compared to 0 Ecuadorian ones in the field. Peru was also able to deploy it's Air Force, and due to lack of Air fields on the Ecuadorian side air superiority belonged to Lima. It's my understanding that the only place the Ecuadorian's where able to hold out there own was at sea where an Ecuadorian Gun Boat repelled a Peruvian Destroyer in the bay of Guayaquil. So essentially Peru had everything going for it and Ecuador didn't. The peace treaty you guys got out of this war was the basis on which Ecuador was denied it's claims to the Amazon region.
P.S. You guys also fought a war with Colombia in the 30's, and given the border dispute nature of it, you could argue that the war in the mid 30's was a prelude to this conflict. Of course without the shiny new Czech tanks.
@Jonathan Williams The US won't get involved, ever, if it's between countries they're guaranteeing. Turn off historic AI and watch them do exactly that. Mexico will go on a rampage through to at least Colombia, all of Central America can reform the Central American Empire and off historic, odds are good one of them will try, probably El Salvador since they start fascist.
Just surprised that there was no mentioning of Finnish starting their attack on Soviet Union on the 10th but that might have been saved for the next week video as they have done with several times when something happens on the last few days of the week.
@otto Lincoln Mannerheim (Commander-in-Chief of the Finnish Defense Forces) and Risto Ryti (President of Finland) were both against taking Leningrad. Finland was mainly fighting to gain back the land lost in the earlier Winter War. Taking Leningrad would have made it harder on their opinion to sue for separate peace if Germany would start losing. It also showed to Soviets and other allies that Finland was a separate entity that fought with Germany but it did not share its goals for the war. Still Finland did keep the defense line to the north of the city but taking it was left for Germans to do as they wanted to conquer it. Mannerheim's plans were to advance over the old borders until good defensive lines could be achieved and halt all attacks. That extra land was planned to be given back when peace would be signed or maybe even kept if Germany really would have won, but even then in the end of 1941 it did not look so promising.
@otto Lincoln I don't think Leningrad being taken to be possible if everything went the same way it went in history. The time Germans got to Leningrad they were already getting spread too thin and they only got to the outskirts in December 1941. I would have imagined that Finnish troops would have most likely closed the cap and siege the city waiting the Germans to get there to help take the city but as the Germans changed their focus on taking Moscow so Leningrad would not be the priority. The Soviets started their counterattack early December that pushed then 320 km from Moscow. Finland was too small force to effect the events even if it would have been fully fledged ally. Even if the city would have been taken the counterattack would have happened and don't think it would have had that much of an effect as even the armies in the north would have not had the time to get to help the center.
This Rokossovsky character seems like he'll go nowhere I heard he got purged before the war so one strike and he's out.
He has his set of false teeth to remind him of his stay at Stalin's holiday resort.
@@michaelk19thcfan10 He was tortured continuously... if the war did not not start- he would be executed within a short time.
@@arthurpozner7701 Nonsense, he had been released and cleared over a year before the war began and was in a commanding role from its onset.
@@brutal_chud And he seems a fine armour commander.
@@brutal_chud His release took place on March 22,1940 . By this time the Red Army has already invaded 6 countries. The Winter War alone cost USSR over a 100 000 dead ... Did I say anything wrong ?
Germany: Good thing the Soviets dont have reserves, imagine if we had to fight more of them!
Stalin: *Laughs in forced conscription*
The USSR had about 2.5 times the mobilising manpower potential the Germans had and was also willing to put women in combat roles.
Germany(vs.USSR) didn't have half of the total population by 1941.Axis land forces in Europe were nowhere near as loyal to Germany as most military planners liked them to be.
Forced conscription ? You mean just conscription, since it's mandatory thing.
Forced Conscription ?? You make it sound like NKVD went around dragging people to places of mobilization at gun point.
I read somewhere that, although the Red Army had around 5 million troops, there were around 15 million reservists. If true, then the Red Army had a huge pool of manpower available to call upon. This probably explains how they could take the horrendous losses they are about to suffer and keep creating divisions to plug the gaps. It is also something that German intelligence missed.
One of the best productions I've ever seen, thank you Indy and team, really appreciate you guys
As someone from Ecuador, I appreciate it for mentioning the Ecuadorian-Peruvian War. Fun fact: The US supported Peru in the treaty of Rio de Janeiro (where Ecuador acknowledge the anexation of much of its eastern provinces by Peru, about half of Ecuador’s territory) due to Ecuadorian support of Nazi Germany, as Germany was one of Ecuador’s biggest trading partners. There are even pictures of members of the Nazi party in Ecuador’s capital, Quito.
Almost laughed when the Japanese atache said the German invasion of the Soviet Union reminded him of the Japanese invasion of China.
IDK about you but I started watching stuff on the World wars to hear about the blasting of new cannons, Panzers rolling across the countryside and stuff. But more and more I study it the more you notice the logistics- or more accurately the lack of it. Sure those tanks and planes look cool and you can get lost comparing stats but if the men around it are starving you lose the advantage quick....
"His reports -- well-informed, richly detailed and at times surprisingly objective for a Nazi sympathizer -- were telegraphed to Tokyo after a cipher clerk encrypted them, using a different number for each word."
www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/05/26/japans-unwitting-d-day-spy/9309f2b9-dd69-4ee3-8eaf-b9b4754631d8/
nomobobby yeah the Germans were well trained, disciplined and had high moral, but their manufacturing and resources were completely inferior to the soviets which showed in their supply logistic problem as soon as Barbarossa started
Nick Danger wow that’s crazy. Thanks for the article
@Vinny Fuchs Oil, that was the real weakness, as you said. Extra tank, aircraft or ship production is utterly useless if you do not have the fuel to run them. Even with the Ploesti oilfields they simply could not keep up with their fuel demands. Their coal conversion plants helped, but even then, they could not keep up with demand. The Baku Oil fields were their only real hope. Note it was the South where Russian resistance was most capable and at its fiercest, where they had their best units. Why? The Germans needed to head South to get to Baku.....
12:24 Stirling is that tough he wears a coat out in the desert *during the day*
It's actually necessary given the blistering heat of the sun...
As tough as Captain Price in Call of Duty
Not clear what season of the year, or what time of day. Overcoats were sometimes necessary, especially at night, and in the winter soldiers fighting in the desert quite often wore overcoats, pullovers and even woolen gloves.
Deserts have extreme climates and can go from very hot at say, midday to uncomfortably cold at midnight.
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 you need a way of moving the air around not a way of trapping it in close to your body
It is darn cold at night out in the “Blue”.
This one is gold:
"This situation and its consequences will become unbearable in future, if we do not want to be destroyed by winning" - Maj General Walther Nehring, Commander 18th Panzer Division
Nothing feels better than knowing what Indy's talking about in the beginning
This is my first time visiting your channel. The narration is utterly brilliant. Thank you very much indeed.
Mannerheim’s Order of the Day, July 11, 1941 (The Sword Scabbard Declaration)
In February 1918 [in the Finnish civil war] I declared to the Karelians of Finland and White Karelia that I would not set my sword to the scabbard until Finland and East Karelia were free. I swore this in the name of the Finnish peasant army, trusting in its courageous men and Finland’s devoted women.
For twenty-three years have White and Olonets Karelia waited for this promise to be fulfilled; for one and half years has Finnish Karelia waited, barren, for the dawn.
My brave soldiers, warriors of the Liberation War, famed men of the Winter War. A new day has dawned. Karelia rises, its battalions march in our ranks. Karelian freedom and a greater Finland glisten in front us midst the avalanche of world events. May the Spirit guiding the fates of nations let the Army of Finland fulfill the promise I gave to the kindred peoples of Karelia.
Soldiers! The ground you walk on is hallowed ground, soaked in blood and suffering of our people. Your victory will liberate Karelia, and your deeds will create a great, prosperous future for Finland.
- Mannerheim
Good man
Hello from the future Mannerheim,let me tell you a secret,you won’t fulfill your promise kekwww
Perhaps keep posting the Mannerheim's orders as the war progresses?
@@yugoslaviaist He made a mistake with the 'Liberation of Karelia' ,but he was right about the 'great and prosperous future' part, tho ;)
Heikki Sallinen Well that is true but nontheless he is a nazi collaborator in my eyes
Thank you Indy and crew for making Lebanon visible again on WW2 maps in the scope of the Syria-Lebanon campaign. Great episode as usual!
Yes! After months of watching this series I managed to catch up with you guys. I am so glad!
9:31 Time to remind you that you haven't given Shaposhnikov good credit yet. It was his staff work that made posible Timoshenko's victories in the later stages of the Winter War, and it was him who organised the Red Army in a flexible manner so they could quickly recover from any big blunder.
Was Boris Shaposhnikov the WWII Russian version of WWI German Max Hoffman - a key man often ignored by history?
@@tommy-er6hh Well, in Hoffman's case he got overshadowed by Hindenburg and Luddendorf, in this case... Perhaps it's that flashy front commanders gets more attention over the staff that keeps the army functioning?
What a great birthday present, thanks for a another great video guys!
Excellent analysis. Thank you!
to quote Pyrrhus 'One more such victory and Pyrrhus is undone.'
into the motherland the german army marched...
Thousands of PoWs in German camps starved
Panzerkampf
"You've come to the wrong neighborhood."
I'd be very cool to see a special episode about the Spanish volunteers of the 250th infantry division (Blue division) when they come into the picture, their fight and how they influenced Hitler against invading Spain is extremely interesting
Thanks brother, outstanding video as always
I love how the see no evil and speak no evil skellies are facing towards Indy but the other one can't hear him.
The two policemen shot in Yugoslavia were state police (gendarmerie), not local police.
And they were not Germans.
If German, I assume they were reserve order police, often used for duties in occupied territory. They tended to be older and less physically fit than Wehrmacht troops - typically they were aged 30 or over. They were often issued obsolete weapons, like WW1-era German Mausers as opposed to the updated Kar98k. They were near the end of the arms supply chain pecking order but they mostly fought partisans anyway - if they had to fight in the front line the situation was dire indeed.
@@stevekaczynski3793 Killed gendarmes were not Germans, they were members of Serbian quisling forces
@@BokicaK1 I wasn't clear about that when I posted my comment, but my general point about German order police remains.
Yes, the two gendarmes were members of general Nedić's quisling forces, Sergeant Bogdan Lončar and Corporal Milenko Braković.
Hey, Indy, can you throw in more numbers of casualties (dead/wounded/ POW) during operation Barbarossa? Also there were a lot of important battles during the 1st phase of the Gwrman invasion that are worth mentioning!
Thanks, Indy and subscribers!
Dude i love your narration....excellent....
Europe, north and east African, Asia and the pacific: at war
Ecuador and Peru: we will do the same thing, but at a small scale
Not enough Barbarossa. Such a immense event, not getting enough details and spotlight
They could do an entire multi-year series on the initial invasion alone. Gotta make some choices when you're doing a weekly, in-real-time series of 12-minute episodes.
I think they did a pretty awesome job, Barbarossa took the vast majority of the current episodes. Also, a lot of the German troops lagging behind the front lines are doing things that will be covered in The War Against Humanity.
The force Germany invaded the U.S.S.R with was just a bit bigger than the force they invaded France with, though they're doing so much more for Barbarossa with all the many special episodes and the Part 1 episode on June 22nd. Really appreciate their work.
I'm disappointed there wasn't enough on Syria. I wanted to learn about things like the First Australian Corps, ski patrols and how motivated the Vichy troops were. Instead Time Ghost were distracted by some campaign to the north and cut back on the Levant. So I guess they're try to include basic detail on everything and leave those of us with specific interests disappointed. :(
Agree completely. Longer episodes with more Barbarossa would be nice.
They didn't even mention the Stalin's line defence :(
@@auguststorm2037 Wasn't its breach mentioned last week? Well there's not that much else to say about it and the Molotov line compared to the larger role of Maginot in the shorter war in France. Going into detail is what the instergram and special episodes are for and failing that, we can all contribute and vote up the comments that break it down further, like the Greek bloke who contributed so much for his nation here. Something like defense of Brest fortress is important on its own but understandable why they left it out
Indy and the set looking great these days, shoutout to Ms. Deinhard!
The quality is extremely impressive!
I hope that with this channel the myth that "HURR DURR the Soviet winter defeated the Germans" will weaken even more. During the whole Eastern front campaign most of the losses were during the WARMER months: First weeks of Barbarossa in 1941, Case Blue in 1942, Kursk in 1943 and Operation Bagration in 1944.
The Russians were more used to the cold but they were not invulnerable to it, being at -40C in knee high snow is an inconvenience for any soldier in any army, given the sheer amount of brutality on the Eastern Front the soldiers that lost an arm or leg due to frostbite and couldn't fight anymore (be them Russians or Germans) were among the LUCKY ones.
Three of those were German offensives and although the losses are great the Germans have captured large amount of territory which although ravaged by scorched earth tactics contain large amount of food. They just need to reach the urals and the South Caucasus to win, or at least turn it into a stalemate that could outlast the world war, once they’ve secured the eastern mountain boundaries of “Fortress Europe”.
The mud was ALSO a problem for the Red Army.
Also Smolensk. Indy is overshadowing it, but that was a really costly victory for the Germans.
One of the brutal lessons learned by Soviets from Winter War with Fanland is that soldiers needed warm clothing during winter months. The famous Ushanka hat was implemented then.
@@mikhailiagacesa3406 the mud was a bigger problem than the snow
Great episode as always.Awesome research and maps.
Could you do a special episode (after 1941) about Argentina and Brazil in WW2 era?
Très bonne vidéo merci beaucoup :D
Great presentation again.
No mention of battle of Dubno-Brody? It was largest tank battle in history larger than Prokhorovka
That battle took place the 26th-30th of June. I think they mentioned it.
The thumbnail just made me realize how much Robert Duvall looks like Philippe Pétain
I didn't notice this before but now I can't unsee it! 😀
Great and informative video. Great job.
You guys make great docos! well done! :)
The partisan in Bela Crkva was Žikica "The Spaniard" Jovanović, nicknamed for his service in the Spanish Civil War. The two gendarmes were members of general Nedić's quisling forces, Sergeant Bogdan Lončar and Corporal Milenko Braković.
Nedić was not president of puppet government. It was Milan Aćimović
Also one thing Nedić made the Government of National Salvation in August I believe somewhere around August 20th, but all in all those two gendarmes were the legal continuation of gendarmerie in Kingdom of Yugoslavia since it is required by the war law to have some sort of a local police force if I remember correctly. Another thing is that Nedić and Ljotić insisted on dissolving of the gendarmerie because the head of the gendarmerie was collaborating with Draža Mihailović even before the communist uprising since Draža and his men were fighting Germans since the so called "capitulation" which wasn't approved by the Yugoslav government that was exiled. Those are some of the arguments that Tito and his party didn't want to be known. And another thing Žikica Jovanović killed them because he was drunk and didn't want to pay for the drinks and the owner of the local called police to throw him out. And that is the true story of the "glorious" uprising in Serbia by communists, also sorry for such a long answer one of the gendarmes was as you said Bogdan Lončar a Serb that successfully escaped from Ustaše since he was from Lika a region in Croatia which saw many crimes against the Serbs by Ustaše, so even sadder truth on that so called "uprising".
@@coupdetat7003
Nedić's government was created around September 1.
Gendarmerie was in German service. Their task was to also to fight against any potential resistance movement, but in reality they pursued men who were known communists.
Draža and his men were NOT fighting Germans. Mihailović had less then 30 men through May and June, Germans would crush them easily if there was any need.
Jovanović and his men had left Bela Crkva before those gendarmes were arrived. They returned when they heard that gendarmes were interrogating villagers.
@@BokicaK1 The first fight after the "capitulation" was near town of Modriča where Draža and some of his "Flying" battalion, which was ordered to be formed before the "capitulation", fought against German unit. After that until he made his way to Ravna Gora he and his forces fought a couple more skirmishes. Nope he killed them because he was drunk and didn't want to pay. Gendarmerie was legal forces on the occupied territory in a sense of a police force. And yes my mistake it was indeed made on September the 1st.
@@coupdetat7003 I knew that you would mention skirmish near Modrica (without KIAs). But after he came to Ravna Gora (first half of May 1941) until Misita's unauthorized attack on Loznica (30th August ) how many skirmishes he had? Zero (0). Otherwise you would mention something else then Modriča and alleged skirmishes he had on route to Ravna Gora.
Jovanović killed Lončar only after he returned from woods. There wasn't any dispute with gendarmes. Both sides called each other to surrender, both sides fired, gendarmes missed, Jovanović did'not. Germans reported that local population positively reacted to Jovanović's call to arms, some of them even joined his unit.
I think it needs to be noted that Soviet "tank corps" weren't formations made up of divisions as corps usualy are. They are in fact division level units. And that is if they had their full paper strength. So when you hear 6 Soviet armored corps think 6 Soviet armored divisions.
That's until 1943 I guess
This channels production is excellent.
Love the maps even if it goes very fast and without time legend. :)
Rokossovsky was one of the best and boldest the soviets had. He was a persistent thorn in the krauts side.
And Kirponos would have been had he not been killed in '41
@@podemosurss8316 Killed in action, or by the Stvaka for lack of success? Don't ask me how Budyoni made it as long as he did. He pulled off a hail mary in the caucusses, but his performance in Belorussia should have earned him a trip to Siberia.
@@RamblingRecruiter Killed by a German airstrike on the beginning of the battle of Kiev...
@@RamblingRecruiter
Budiony survived because of his epic mustache!
@@TheCimbrianBull Indeed was truly epic
Great episode! I am so happy to watch these early now.
The french thing is quite interesting imo. Which side truely are "traitors"? One side is the French nation that lost the war and thus is now "new France". Other side sees the new France as illegimate or atleast doesn't approve of it and tries to win back the old France. Technically since Free French fight against the Vichy and Germany to restore France and bot with Vichy to restore France, they are the traitors. It is just interesting setup.
By the way no mention of the Finnish attack phase that started on the 10th? It is no the most inportsnt front but I think especially after the front settles down in december ( or what do I know maybe Finns go all the way to Urals) there is very different warfare than rest of the ww2. "Unmanned" fronts, incredible hunts of Finnish Sissi recon and sabotage units around the anciet forests. You should try to do a special about this Sissi warfare at some point. It did create few know soldiers like Lauri Törni ( great Sabaton history trilogy btw). There are so many amazing stories from Sissi "raids" or more like travels that it would be interesting to create some video material about them as they are quite unknown outside of Finland.
Cheers to the entire team!
(Written on phone so excuse me for spelling errors)
Bravo on the maps this week. Reminds me of why I became a patron in the first place.
Who was that I heard in the background? This is one of the best productions on U-Tube. So we’ll done why it isn’t also on one of the large networks I’ll never know, probably to good for it,they would only ruin it or cheapen it. Well done guys
6:30 More specifically, Rokkossovski commands the 15th Mechanised Corps, which is one of the top-notch Soviet Mechanised units at this point. It is comprised of 2 tank divisions (that is, 4 tank brigades), 1 motor rifle division, 1 engineer regiment and 1 motorcycle regiment.
You should absolutely do a special episode regarding the Peru - Ecuador conflict. I still don't understand how Peru "won" but lost territory. Thanks.
They didn't, they won the conflict, and got a peace treaty that nullified future disputes. So yeah Peru got stuck fighting two more border wars down the road, but they essentially didn't matter because of the "Rio de Janeiro Protocol". Long story short Peru built up there forces to bully their much weaker neighbor and took the disputed territory. Honestly you almost can't blame the Peruvians for fighting this war when they did, the timing was perfect for them.
@@nonscpo87 I, as a Peruvian, should know more about this conflict. And how it changed our overall geopolitical situation. THANKS.
Outstanding Analysis!
LOVED the WW 1 series and am just getting into this one
Welcome aboard!
7:30 I've heard of the Battle of the Bulge but that's just obscene.
12:01 Ah, the creation of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and the Special Air Service (SAS), often the origin of many World War 2 video games such as Medal of Honor and a certain Captain Price. I have a feeling they will be up to a lot of mischief in the war soon.
In all seriousness though, seems like Kiev is about to fall into German hands rather soon with the Germans just 25km near it...
Don't forget sniper elite too. Gonna nutshot every enemy I see 😁
Great series.
Love waking up to new videos!
Indy is telling Joakim ideas for a Sabaton album about the Second World War that's why he is on the phone at the start lol
The comparison of Barbarossa to Japan's war in China is pretty spot on
Great production once else :)
At the end of the episode I noticed the shadow from the plane over Germany facing Russia. If that was intentional then I applaud who ever had the idea 👏
Is that Hötzendorf's portrait hanging on the wall? 😂
Beria is a new name, I think. I don't recall him being mentioned before.
He's the Soviet equivalent to minister of the interior since 1938 onwards.
Podemos URSS What this guy said.
He was the villain in The Death of Stalin (2017)
He's not in the military mostly handles security
One of the architects of the Katyn Massacre and many other atrocities.
Those animations are amazing!
Awesome ! as always :)
Is it just me or does it feel like the narrative focuses more on the German point of view? It usually does in documentaries, but while hearing so much about the German thoughts on difficulties of advancing into Russia, I'm also curious what the Russian army staff had to say about losing so much ground in such a short time, as well as how the mobilization was happening, how they were setting up defences and trying not to fall apart like the Western allies had.
Or maybe it's just me? Either way, I want more!
Anyway, thank you, Timeghost, keep it up!
It's because of the availability of English language sources.
Right when World War 2 ended, the Soviets and the Americans and British were no longer on speaking terms, and Russian historical sources never got translated into English.
Meanwhile the Americans in particular were very eager to know what the Germans had learned in fighting the Soviets, and the surviving German generals that were captured by the Western Allies were more than happy to trade their knowledge for a quiet retirement in America.
The Cold War ended 30 years ago and you can easily get Russian sources now, but there's so much material and few historians fluent in both Russian and English who care about doing the work. So in the English language, most sources are still from the German perspective.
Which is also where the very much overstated myth comes from of the Wehrmacht being this amazing juggernaut that the Soviets could only drown in a sea of corpses. And why it seems that all the generals who made terrible mistakes somehow died during the war, and only the ones who did nothing wrong survived. ;)
@@Yora21 Makes much sense, I suspected something like this. Thank you for the informative reply!
@@viliussmproductions Yora is partially correct. We really did not get much actual information until recently because historians did not have access to the Russian archives. The USSR was notorious for keeping EVERYTHING a secret, so apart from interviews with Russian officers (all very carefully handled so as not to get a free trip to a Gulag) and heavily censored accounts, western historians had no real access much of anything from the Soviet perspective. Thankfully, House and Glantz have obtained this access, and their books on Barbarossa, Kursk and the Stalingrad campaign are excellent in-depth accounts of these campaigns. What is nice is that they go back to ORIGINAL SOURCES (unit diaries and reports), and don't regurgitate the skewed recollections of people like Guderian, Manstein, Zhukov and others (or, more annoyingly, quote from a source of quotes). It has taken almost 70 years, but we are finally getting proper accounting of these important historical events from both perspectives.
German 6th army sounds effective with this breakthrough, I imagine they'll be a fearsome enemy throughout the war
fearsome in death in the coming year
The war will be over by Christmas so they better hurry up! 😀
So funny 😂 I would have asked about the Ecuadorian-Peruvian War! Still want more info or a special episode about that!
Love your show guys 🥰🥰🥰