you know it's really insane how many people are saying that hakari and kashimo can react to lighning so they are faster than maki but forgets maki herself has dodged freaking sukuna amped nue's lightning😭😭😭
BIG Facts! maki is so underrated its INSANE! its like folks just forget Chapter 215 exists! she actually puts hands on 15F sukuna and probably Dodged Nues lightning yet fans just disregard it😭😭
@@enemystanduser like seriously just watched kaiyo's toji vs yuta video..they can dodged sukuna amped nue's lightning,mach 3 attacks and freaking blue(even though gojo was weakened the attack speed should be well above everything we've seen like literally they're mini black holes) and kaiyo saying granite blast and thin ice missile is taking them out..just because gojo countered toji's speed with teleportation it's not like everybody can...
Well no. It’s more like one “has” 0 curse energy and another can “achieve” the state of unlimited curse energy. In reality a “perfected and permanent” person with unlimited cursed energy is just Hakaris jackpot state without the timer. It’s an immortal that can only be killed by decapitation. Depending on the individuals output, the unlimited cursed energy state can have an ultimate defence and insane attack power.
@@UsaneloGotta be honest, heavenly restriction is pretty disappointing as a biding vow given it is supposed to be an equivalent exchange. Now Maki/Toji's heavenly restriction look a lot more like a permanent debuff than anything compared to Kokichi's heavenly restriction that looks a lot more like an actual equivalent exchange and has a lot more going on in terms of potential
The sword is mostly effective with someone like Maki/Toji/Yuji/Mahito, because those can see the soul 100%, so their damage is critical, not like the Samurai who used the sword, he can’t see the soul 100% that’s why his damage was ineffective in my opinion
I guess the real question is “Is Hakari, in his jackpot mode, faster than Naoya?” I wanna say I doubt it. She’d probably be able to react to his speed and kill him imo.
Hakari was able to perceive and move his body in reaction to lightening before it hit him. He is much faster than Naoya. Maki still probably wins tho considering her sword would one shot.
@@huntershurley4331 you say he was able to perceive lightning but he wasn't able to pull off a single black flash, someone with that fast perception should be able to imbue CE in less that a millionth of a second....
@@drsh1711 that’s an Appeal to ignorance. Just because he hasn’t been shown to use black flash doesn’t me can’t. That’s like saying Gojo can’t use it just bc you haven’t seen him use it. Plus, Yuji used it 4 times in short succession. You’re saying Yuji has faster reactions than Hakari? That aside, we were literally shown multiple instances of him perceiving & reacting to the lightening. When he blew it out his nose as his RCT was healing him, and when he moved to make it his his left arm. Not to mention the only time we saw it “ blitz “ him was when it came from behind him, while his jackpot had ran out. Jackpot Hakari is higher than Maki stat wise, her sword just negates Hakari’s major advantage that he normally has.
It might not even negate his advantage. It’s still up in the air if the soul split sword can be healed by rct. Also Maki in a straight line is not faster than Naoya. Her reaction speed is what made it so that he couldn’t hit her. Hakari has shown just as impressive reactions feats. The way she wins is In between rounds because his domain probably can’t function against her.
Let's not ignore the fact that Maki has a SWORD. Yeah ik that it's stated plenty of times in the vid that she has the soulsplitting sword but she has a SWORD. That already gives her way more room to just fight with rather than fight hand to hand. This was the main point in the Maki vs Miwa fight, range matters. Maki can just swipe at Hakari's arms as he tries to melee and stop him from hand signing his domain expansion. (If that can even activate on Maki.)
I definitely feel like Maki has the edge because of her heavenly restriction. But Hakari is smart. He's not going to just fight hand-to-hand. He'll probably resort to using tactics that involve throwing objects at Maki to distract her, using the environment to conceal himself and obscure her vision, and trying to catch her slipping with a few devastating blows. It would be a strategy based on creating an opening while preventing a direct attack from Maki.
Once again i really love Gege as a writer he has a knack for writing characters. I’m also happy because he is one of the few mangaka who knows how to write strong women too . I really hope we get more work from him after jjk ends .
Technically you can, but i doubt you can just do the vow itself, you should be very experienced with domains to be able to do that. Example, how do you info dump to an inanimate object? Does inanimate objects have brains? Well, how about targeting brains in specific? How do i do that and what do you exchange for it?
Telling the opponent your power is a power boost. The sure hit to tell hakari's domain function is needed for him to reach his peak. Maki doesnt get hit by the sure hit so hakari so to get the same benfits untill he manually tells her all the info. Aka hakri has to tell maki paraghrahps worth of info to stand a chance. Its a funny mental image him just using domain and then having to explain his game really fast.
I loved the video, but we have to remember that the innate technique of hakari was not fully explained or revealed to us, so kin-chan still has a lot to surprise!!!
I honestly feel maki, hakari and yuta(the 3 strongest students) vs sukuna could be a fun match up That comedian vs sukuna could also be fun, as technically that comedian is technically as strong as gojo, at least from my understading
I think a better way of saying this is that the "tank" is infinite but it's just that the engine can only use so much fuel and output so much force and speed at a time.
@@BlandyBoiYT I must have written that while half-asleep, lmao. There's a million better ways to say it. Since I mentioned Androids, I should have said "a never-ending battery" or some shit.
I'd just like to point out that Toji didn't tank Red, he used the inverted spear of heaven to block red, so realistically he only took a minimal amount because he was not in direct contact
That would surely depend if another cursed item like Inverted Spear of Heaven or Black Rope could be found whose sole purpose is to suppress cursed energy.
Hear me out if there’s ANY other person around Hakari he can use his domain expansion on them. He doesn’t have to kill the person he uses it on he just needs the jackpot so then Hakari can fight Maki with his buff.
Great video. All the thoughts I had on the topic were mentioned, specially regarding how Hakari's abilities would or wouldn't work against Maki and the Soul Liberation Blade. About the domain, that's exactly what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure the domain simply will not work. Like, at all. Like you said, I believe there's a vow requiring an opponent inside the domain. So I don't even think it would work if the other person is not an opponent, like for Hakari to prime a jackpot before Sukuna or something
But what about reacting fast enough to the electricity going through his brain that he blew it out his nose? I could see the "dodging" not being legit, but he still had to have the capacity to somehow think of the booger lightning solution and implement it in a literal flash.
Hakari scales really high but his feats are lacking badly, only seen him fight with kashimo, unless we see what really Hakari can do, maki beats hakari high diff
@@TheSylar1982 The narrator themself explained that Maki couldn’t be targeted by the sure-hit effect of domain expansions due to her having zero cursed energy.
@@phillipsmith2201 the domain would still work, maki just wouldn't learn the rules of the game since the rules being implanted into their brain is the sure hit.
@@vincentfarris It’s heavily implied that the sure hit effect is mandatory before Hakari starts rolling in his domain. Otherwise, there would literally be no point to purposely trapping an opponent in a domain.
Hey man, have been watching your content since the shibuya arc and really enjoy it. The only thing I have to say is that I am not a huge fan of the swearing that has popped up lately. I always enjoyed how creative your descriptions were without needing to use coarse language :)
The problem with Hakari is that he has only hands and feet and his curse energy property no actually powers at all. Maki is the absolute best taijutsu fighter on the planet since Toji is dead. If it's just straight up hands and feet nothing else Maki wins every time. Even with his jackpot Maki will out last him and she don't need the sword that's how big the skill gap is
Hakari cure energy has an edge and can hurt anyone even with minimum attack also hakari battle iq is more than her and also he is faster ,i have seen alot in comments that maki dodged nue lighting but hakari also dodged kashimo lightning and you cannot compare curse spirit and someone who was undefeated in the golden era so yeah hakari wins
Will see the video later, but I think Maki both in hand to hand and hax would counter Hakari, but he could still win if he somehow disposes of the Soul Liberation Blade, which I'm sure he would not be able to do without taking soul damage.
Even without it, she has enough durability to tank every attack from him. Not only that, her attack power is also immense.remember, she punched cs naoya straight to the ground when he was moving at mach 3. There's an hell amount of force behind that one punch. And she was doing that casually.
So you think it’s possible Yuji is just a special case for heavenly restriction. Ever since the beginning of the series HR signs were everywhere. His weak curse energy, but superhuman strength, and durability (stronger than Maki’s) The healing from Sukuna’s punch was definitely the healing Maki, and Toji have, since the series would have told us if Yuji used RCT. Also there was something about a curse suppression power, it sounds like that’s how Yuji can suppress Sukuna’s soul, and how Toji took control over his body when that sorcerer tried to used his soul to kill foes. The only difference Yuji have to them is the fact he ate Sukuna’s fingers, and he’s lacking experience, and skill.
Before even seeing this i will confidently say Maki washes Hikari no matter the situation. Whether Hikari ambushes her she preps to fight him Hikari doesnt stand a chance even in Jackpot mode. All it would do is stall the inevitable, but i think she would blitz him before he could even do it. Even with his .2 second domain activation.
I’m pretty sure that Hakaris domain requires the person to understand the rules in order to function so I presume it wouldn’t even activate until she decides to reveal her weapon
I think advenced reverse cursed technique needs to repair the soul. That would explain why sorceres like Angel and Inumaki didn't recovered their lost limbs after being heal with reverse cursed technique while more adveanced sorceres like Hakari, Yuta and Uro can. Those advanced sorcerers are in away self aware about their souls so they can heal their lost limbs. Also, I think this is another condition in order to master a domain expansion and it is hinted when sukuna made the biding bow with yuji. He said they were in sukuna's inner domain and when mahito tries to touch sukuna's soul he also enters sukuna's inner domain so when a sorcerer expands his domain their are expanding their inners domains which are in a way related to their souls
RCT can only heal your physical body but not the soul. This is why people affected by Mahito's CT can't be healed and it's hinted that Sukuna's CT has something to do with soul too (Inumaki and Angel lost their limbs to him). As for Hakari, Yuta and Uro, they were able to heal their wounds because they were hit by physical attacks, not on the soul
@@Jeff-tu8gd i'd like to think higher levels of RCT can heal your *own* soul, but not others, maybe that could be why someone like sukuna seemingly refuses to heal junpei, and mahito assumes that he couldn't, (i myself am under the impression that because the soul/body of junpei wasn't injured per se, just changed form that RCT couldn't do anything) cause if you understand the core of cursed energy, you'd have some understanding of your own soul, cursed energy comes from the gut, RCT comes from the head, the soul is one in the same, ergo they correlate very well alternatively it could be that those that are vessels, (yuji + sukuna) or in this case hana kurusu + angel might meddle with or make it extremely difficult for RCT healing from an outside source, but it's difficult to tell at this stage until we see the contents of the book of souls be revealed to us
@@Jeff-tu8gd"The soul is the body, and the body is the soul." This kind of implies that healing the body is the same as healing the soul so RCT should be able to recover any damage taken from the Soul Split Katana. In the case of Idle Transfiguration, Mahito changes the shape of the soul and doesn't actually harm it in any way which explains why RCT can't repair that damage since there's technically nothing wrong with the soul or body hence there's nothing to heal.
I think makis durability is a little over rated, while Hakaris strength is a little underrated but the video is definitely valid. I guess Hakari needs more feats to truly see if he would beat maki or not
Idk if her's is underrated... she surprised Sukunawith her durability and was blown across a city into a Boulder and was completely find to fight. Even crushed by jinichi blow and was fine... crushed by huge rock hands and blasted out of them. Durability pretty high
I’m saying, we’ve only seen him in one major fight. We still need to remember Gojo said he’ll rival him for a reason, this ain’t the peak of his potential.
@@marquisedreams8812 agreed, I think what gives maki the advantage in this match up is the amount of “screen time/page time” she’s had compared to Hakari. But I honestly think the authors intent for Hakari is for him to at least be second to yuta. I know yuta claiming Hakari is stronger then him when he gets going is subjective but in my opinion I think that statement holds a lot of weight for Hakaris overall power and potential. And is most likely true.
Maki wins pretty easily. This is a horrible matchup for hakari. Domain doesn’t touch her = no jackpot for hakari so he’ll be fighting in base form the whole time. Maki is way too fast and can wipe with soul splitter. Todo and Toge weren’t healed with RCT after soul damage
13:46 I believe hakari while in jackpot is physically stronger than yuta’s physical capabilities, cause it’s been said by yuta himself that he’s on the weaker side when it comes to natural physical capabilities, even with infinite curse energy making up for that. And from what we’ve seen from hakari, we can certainly tell that he’s very physically gifted, not on yuji’s level, but definitely stronger than yuta without curse energy reinforcement.
Yuta specifically said he’s better when he is on A ROLL meaning it’s possible that hakari probably just wears him out rather then beat him blow for blow
Do you think that yuji can bring back megumi from the depths of despair? He has that info on the soul and he seems to be able to switch bodies with others so could he reforge megumi??
Hakari hasn’t shown me that he could do any serious damage to Maki. Kashimo came out of that fight pretty ok all limbs intact no internal bleeding etc lol. Meanwhile Maki was getting hit with Mach 3 speed attacks by Naoya and lived. Not to mention she killed the whole Zenin clan while still injured from her fight with Ogi. Hakari for sure becomes a top tier in jackpot with speed and power but I gotta see more. Punches and kicks not doing it for me.
@@TheSylar1982 there a huge gap between trying to kill someone and Incapacitating them lol. Just because he didn’t want to kill him doesn’t mean that his damage should boil down to a nose bleed lmao. Gojo wasn’t trying to kill Jogo look what he did. Yuta wasn’t trying to kill Ryu look how he left him. There’s a huge middle ground of the type of damage that can be done that wouldn’t kill someone.
Kashimo getting thrown around from punches to the face and constant nose bleeding and bleeding from the mouth (which implies bleeding from the digestive tract or respiratory system)
To be fair Toji didn’t rank Red he blocked it with the inverted spear of heaven, granted after blocking and being launched he was unharmed and was able to get back up like nothing
I don’t get why when people compare Hakari to someone they dumb Hakari down to a brute who only can throw hands which only shows about 1/3 of Hakari’s true ability. What makes Hakari strong is his extremely high battle iq, and regenerative abilities. If you make the discussion about how is faster and stronger of course Maki is going to win. But when you actually add Hakari’s battle iq which is almost impossible to quantify in a video like this it really favors hakari. And regardless who wins it’s not one sided
@@kharirichards he is a high iq fighter while fighting with bernard who can literally see into future he attacked his blind spots,and kashimo poisoned him but he remained calm and within a second neutralize it ,if he didn't he would have died ,he still is an incomplete character
@@mrnoble3896 Speeding things up because Charles can see 1 or 2 seconds into his future is not a sign of high intelligence. No one looks at Gojo, Naoya, Naobito, Toji, Maki getting into blind spots with their speed as "high iq." As for the poison, his JP mode did all the heavy lifting, he was unconscious.
The way i see it, Hakari can't hit his jackpot against Maki so he'd be at a disadvantage but if he did have jackpot he'd either be stronger or they'd be very close as it's implied the three of them (maki, yuta, and hakari) are
I mean, Maki definetly outscales Hakari when it comes to physical stats, especially speed wise. Plus her soul splitter would be quite troublesome, i'm not even actually sure rct can heal damage done to the soul, and if that's not the case, even in jackpot Hakari could get severlely damaged.
Hakari, would be able to heal his soul because he has automatic reverse cursed technique. The fact that he got Kashimo Poisen out of his body shows you how automatic it is
Maki was able to use anothers technique. Ie the sumo and stuff so idk if it was and oversight or she does still exist with cursed energy enough to be able to be put in a domain...
The sword not a problem since hakari soul is protected by curse energy seeing how sorcerer are able to unconsciously protect there soul with ce saying how mahito say about namami and hakari is so full with a infinite of ce he can auto heal I would be 100 sure his soul will also be under the same effect seeing how mahito explain the soul molds the body and him healing his body without thinking meals he can cover his soul wit ce without thinking the real question is she patient enough for hakari to really get wreckless and count on it but if I had to bet I put it all on hakari
Editing my original comment, I no longer agree. Soul liberation blade doesn't just harm the soul, it also bypasses all durability. This has to include CE because Toji easily carved up the rainbow dragon curse Interesting point. I always forget that Nanami defended against idle transfiguration. Even though it was a weak version of Mahito that's still incredibly impressive. So I actually think you're right honestly, logically Hakari should be protected from external attacks on his soul. The only thing is that a bloodlusted Maki would take him out before he can land a jackpot. It's also quite possible he cannot use his domain at all, as it won't be able to lock onto Maki. Even if he could, she can just stab him through the barrier the same way she did Naoya
You guys forget, when Gojo became awaken told you stood no chance . Now an even stronger Gojo admits that Hakari as well as Yutta will surpass him. And I don’t understand your logic about Hakari not being the speed of light . Bro literally is reacting to lighting . Stop down playing Kashimo 🤦🏾♂️ bro is really top teir I don’t think maki is even beating him truth be told . Let alone Hakari. You act like Kashimo is some chump.
Hakari can’t even cast a domain since his sure hit is information dump which won’t affect Maki So domain conditions won’t even be fulfilled so why wouldn’t it fail?
The blade and the fact rika can be knockedouz by ryu punches i am thinking that yuta vs maki is very i mean very close depending if maki has something to hide herself like trees or buildings. I mean yuta can only use his copy with rika. What are your thoughts
What we’re really in need of is for Hakari or Kash-Money to fight someone we know the strength of. Then we can begin to properly gauge their relative power levels One-shotting Panda doesn’t really help, sadly 🐼
Yuta’s statement of “he’s even stronger than me when he’s on a roll” would help, if we didn’t have Maki immediately disputing it. Both should be able to accurately gauge his power. Yuta has a tendency to be humble and Maki would clearly have bias toward Yuta, so we can’t know
Now I think maki’s insanely powerful, maybe 7th or 8th in terms of the rankings (hot take but I think higuruma is above her with enough time to train he can get wild) and I do think overall hakari is stronger, at number 5. I think if she has ANY other cursed tool, hakari sweeps and its not close. If we’re talking about WITH the soul splitting katana, then hakari might have an issue because that’s kind of a counter to the jackpot, and anything really. That being said…I can see hakari being able to pull it off in the long run, but it’ll be tough, and WITH that took I think maki takes it tbh. However thats up to you to decide if you count the soul split katana or not. Personally, I dunno if its fair to give one person a broken cursed tool and not the other, but that’s up to the individual person. Even so, with soul split katana, maki sweeps. Without or with a different tool, hakari sweeps. TLDR, its not particularly fair to say one is stronger than the other 100% of the time. Maki without the katana would lose or with a different tool, with the katana she’d probably win. Or gege pulls a gege and pulls something outta nowhere Sorry for the long comment I like talking about jjk powerscaling
Maki beats Hakari base to base and she could probably get around and kill Hakari before he can proc his domain or land a jackpot, but if Hakari gets a Jackpot and since Maki wouldn’t get the information dump and would be clueless during hakari’s domain and wouldn’t know when Hakari would get a jackpot, Hakari should win if he gets 1 jackpot off. Off of my interpretations, Maki stomps if Hakari is unlucky for the first time in his life or can’t even get a domain off, but if Hakari gets a jackpot he slams.
mach 3 = 2280 mph lightning=272000mph maki is faster because hakari couldn't dodge kashimo who is literally a hundred times faster than naoya(seems illogical). -talking about just hands, cursed reinforcement and unlimited jackpot CE and RCT gives hakari the edge because without cursed weapons no mattter what she does hakari can heal and come back and she would only get tired without replenishing energy. -DE doesnt need to work on maki to activate as hakari's domain has implecation on himself. its just like activating a domain with a rock in it, he gets all the boost without giving a conditions to rock. -the Zenin clan feat is impressive considering all of them were first grade and below , none of them even close to their former clan head even in his old age. -cursed blade included maki is a problem with very few competition, those very few being yuta, hakari, and especially gojo and sukuna (Special grade Socereres). like i said she hasnt given any feats saying she's faster than kashimo's techniques, if she gets hits on yuta or hakari's head then it would be a problem but the problem is her feats only show supersonic speed or a little above that. Gojo would destroy her like he did with toji and sukuna's DE is especially made to kill her. - all im saying is with weapon she would be a monster fighting against hakari who i believe can keep up with her(manga doesnt show other wise) and could go either way with maki planning like toji etc.. without any tools just 0 CE VS Unlimited CE hakari would kill her on a very destructive one sided battle (no matter how fast she is hakari would keep up with cursed reinforced speed and do the same with strength with an unlimited CE imbued body)
WHAT??? i'm sorry, some of your arguments made 0 sense. 1st off hakari did not dodge the lightning and Naoya has the fasted travel speed in the series other than Gojo, Maki blatantly can react to Mach 3 and can literally tell how the opponent will move. This is the same Maki trading blows with 15F sukuna (in Ch.215 the 10% was only in regard to CT, so its still 100% physical power 100% CE reinforcement) HELL YEAH I think she's faster! she doesn't need to be as fast aa Lightning, or Mach 3 because she's already fast enough with speed directly referenced with sukuna! Hakari and others like Kashimo, yuta etc can probably keep up but that doesn't take away from her speed. Tell me 1 feat the former zenin clan head(Naobito) did More impressive then Maki's feats. be serious she is without a Doubt Up there with Hakari and Yuta
i really think hakari would win tbh ( if he's lucky obviously ) in base form there is just no dif he's taking the L but in jackpot + domain expension i think he would win if sukuna could regenerat from the soul split katana well i think he can too and in term of strength he's BEATING HER DOWN but loosing in speed and i think their pretty much in the same durability level so i think its either a tie because maki is really strong but if hakari is lucky then he's winning
Success lies in pre-plan ladies and gentlemen. Through pre-plan Toji had his way with the strongest duo in the scene and made it look simple while doing it. Kenjaku manipulates the strongest sorcerers in the scene. if both characters faced their foes 1v1 they die instantly. If Maki pre-plans she obviously one-shots Hakari but its still close even if its a straight 1v1.
Lightning isn’t 1/3 the speed of light. His attacks are direct lightning attacks that travel 270,000mph. Still stupid crazy but not even close to 1/3 the speed of light. STROKE lightning is when the initial strike has been made propagating a channel for the electrons to travel through freely. There has to be a initial strike, a open channel for any other charges to make a dart path which is a straight and open channel compared to regular stepped lightning which you can clearly see his lightning is stepped. If I hear this 1/3 the speed thing again I swear you couldn’t do your due diligence and look up the speed of lightning.
ok bruuh, I based it off the return stroke or Cloud to ground Lightning which is what Kashimos Electricity is based on, so nothing changes, maybe I should have made that more clear for for people like you, who would are on my ass about an irrelevent feat I put in as a joke
Lmao so essentially he highballed Maki and then low balled Hakari. Base Hakari was ragdolling the same yuji that was holding his own against Yuta and Full Power Mahito.
don’t exactly know what you mean, when 1)yuji basically asked to get beat, 2) yuji was holding back against yuta(not that it matters) and 3) FP mahito was confirmed to be able to rip yuji apart if he didn’t land his final Black flash. I’m really not downplaying base hakari, but he is NOT fighting current Maki without Jackpot, she basically no diffed cursed Naoya after her awakening and even threw hands with 15F sukuna, y’all play too much😅
Yeah I love the vid with the way you interpreted their abilities and compared them but i just looked it up and in japan the pachinko game isnt really seen as gambling cause in real life you naturally need one player hakari domain wont work on maki but the domain would still be active passively he would be immortal also so far hakari speed due to lightning according to vs battle wiki is mach 4760 and maki speed isnt up to that also ppl saying that she dodged sukuna nue lightning doesnt make sense cuz it wasnt at point blank range also thats the speed of the bird not the lightning only win con she has is the sword either way i would love to see both of them jump someone like what nanami and yuji did to mahito.
24:14 "The strongest grip in the series"
Yuta: "Can confirm."
Yuta knows 😏
You translate to earth knows for some reason @@Toujiluv
"The.series" , did bro break the forth wall 😂😂😂
“She has the strongest grip in the series”-Yuta Okkotsu
you know it's really insane how many people are saying that hakari and kashimo can react to lighning so they are faster than maki but forgets maki herself has dodged freaking sukuna amped nue's lightning😭😭😭
BIG Facts! maki is so underrated its INSANE! its like folks just forget Chapter 215 exists! she actually puts hands on 15F sukuna and probably Dodged Nues lightning yet fans just disregard it😭😭
@@enemystanduser like seriously just watched kaiyo's toji vs yuta video..they can dodged sukuna amped nue's lightning,mach 3 attacks and freaking blue(even though gojo was weakened the attack speed should be well above everything we've seen like literally they're mini black holes) and kaiyo saying granite blast and thin ice missile is taking them out..just because gojo countered toji's speed with teleportation it's not like everybody can...
We don’t know if she dodged it or tanked it. We don’t know what happened but regardless it wasn’t as close as Hakari or kashimo
@@enemystanduser he clearly wasn’t at full strength
@@enemystanduser 10% 15f sukuna* and tankd not dodge 'cause sukuna says she survived it
i still think she wins tho
0 curse energy seems more OP than unlimited curse energy. Who would of thought that before seeing both?
Well no. It’s more like one “has” 0 curse energy and another can “achieve” the state of unlimited curse energy. In reality a “perfected and permanent” person with unlimited cursed energy is just Hakaris jackpot state without the timer. It’s an immortal that can only be killed by decapitation. Depending on the individuals output, the unlimited cursed energy state can have an ultimate defence and insane attack power.
@@Usanelo you really just typed all of that and still said nothing. I’m impressed.
@@romelegend8475 They said unlimited cursed energy is better since it has higher potential if it was permanent. Wym they said nothing lmao.
@@UsaneloGotta be honest, heavenly restriction is pretty disappointing as a biding vow given it is supposed to be an equivalent exchange. Now Maki/Toji's heavenly restriction look a lot more like a permanent debuff than anything compared to Kokichi's heavenly restriction that looks a lot more like an actual equivalent exchange and has a lot more going on in terms of potential
The Hakari delusions are crazy making up things that aren't even in the manga. He is FODDER! Without that domain he's Yuji's (current) victim
Don’t know the outcome he gave but Maki washes
Still a pest compared to sukuna tho
Same
@@NafZyou may be Salty once she uses that sword I’m just sayin bro
Washs the dishs
I'm sorry..
Not finished but I'm just waiting for this outcome 🔥
The sword is mostly effective with someone like Maki/Toji/Yuji/Mahito, because those can see the soul 100%, so their damage is critical, not like the Samurai who used the sword, he can’t see the soul 100% that’s why his damage was ineffective in my opinion
I guess the real question is “Is Hakari, in his jackpot mode, faster than Naoya?” I wanna say I doubt it. She’d probably be able to react to his speed and kill him imo.
Hakari was able to perceive and move his body in reaction to lightening before it hit him. He is much faster than Naoya. Maki still probably wins tho considering her sword would one shot.
@@huntershurley4331 you say he was able to perceive lightning but he wasn't able to pull off a single black flash, someone with that fast perception should be able to imbue CE in less that a millionth of a second....
@@drsh1711 gojo can’t pull of black flash whenever he wants and he’s faster no? black flash isn’t something that can be controlled
@@drsh1711 that’s an Appeal to ignorance. Just because he hasn’t been shown to use black flash doesn’t me can’t. That’s like saying Gojo can’t use it just bc you haven’t seen him use it. Plus, Yuji used it 4 times in short succession. You’re saying Yuji has faster reactions than Hakari?
That aside, we were literally shown multiple instances of him perceiving & reacting to the lightening. When he blew it out his nose as his RCT was healing him, and when he moved to make it his his left arm. Not to mention the only time we saw it “ blitz “ him was when it came from behind him, while his jackpot had ran out. Jackpot Hakari is higher than Maki stat wise, her sword just negates Hakari’s major advantage that he normally has.
It might not even negate his advantage. It’s still up in the air if the soul split sword can be healed by rct. Also Maki in a straight line is not faster than Naoya. Her reaction speed is what made it so that he couldn’t hit her. Hakari has shown just as impressive reactions feats. The way she wins is In between rounds because his domain probably can’t function against her.
Let's not ignore the fact that Maki has a SWORD. Yeah ik that it's stated plenty of times in the vid that she has the soulsplitting sword but she has a SWORD. That already gives her way more room to just fight with rather than fight hand to hand. This was the main point in the Maki vs Miwa fight, range matters. Maki can just swipe at Hakari's arms as he tries to melee and stop him from hand signing his domain expansion. (If that can even activate on Maki.)
Hakari has the fastest activation time of all sorcerers we’ve ever seen even faster than 0.2 seconds. She can’t stop that
It doesn't matter if the domain recognizes maki because it's not meant for fighting it's meant for slot roles for God mode
Now take the sword out of the equation and tell me who'd win, don't be afraid
I definitely feel like Maki has the edge because of her heavenly restriction. But Hakari is smart. He's not going to just fight hand-to-hand. He'll probably resort to using tactics that involve throwing objects at Maki to distract her, using the environment to conceal himself and obscure her vision, and trying to catch her slipping with a few devastating blows. It would be a strategy based on creating an opening while preventing a direct attack from Maki.
Hakari aint smart bro has lower grades than itadori 😭
I don't think he could catch maki slipping she literally got like precog shell know what he will do before he does it
catching MAKI slipping? even if maki somehow slips she still beats him
Buddy what devastating blow is he landing against maki who can dodge midair and make curse naoya mald with her speed
@@grimmagerNo way you made such a dumb comment, Hakari is smart in combat IQ not book smarts.
Hakari without jackpot would get folded by all the top tiers.
Once again i really love Gege as a writer he has a knack for writing characters. I’m also happy because he is one of the few mangaka who knows how to write strong women too . I really hope we get more work from him after jjk ends .
loves to kill a lot of his charachters too
People seem to forget that you can modify your domains to target inanimate objects.
No you can't, only sukuna
What?
Technically you can, but i doubt you can just do the vow itself, you should be very experienced with domains to be able to do that. Example, how do you info dump to an inanimate object? Does inanimate objects have brains? Well, how about targeting brains in specific? How do i do that and what do you exchange for it?
2:49 They don’t fight with Ce which is why he excluded them in the statement. Without ce they beat every character in the series.
as i see it, maki would just bust his head open and demolish his brain completely, which equals to stopped rct = win
Telling the opponent your power is a power boost. The sure hit to tell hakari's domain function is needed for him to reach his peak. Maki doesnt get hit by the sure hit so hakari so to get the same benfits untill he manually tells her all the info.
Aka hakri has to tell maki paraghrahps worth of info to stand a chance. Its a funny mental image him just using domain and then having to explain his game really fast.
The info dump for the domain is to increase its effectiveness. The whole showing your hand by explaining technique makes it stronger
3:56 to 4:01 I could be wrong, but would that also apply to Sukuna's fight with Gojo?
nah, after the bath and sukuna harnessing 19F+mummy head he was at full fighting capability. it’s a shame gojo lost to that guy
I loved the video, but we have to remember that the innate technique of hakari was not fully explained or revealed to us, so kin-chan still has a lot to surprise!!!
I honestly feel maki, hakari and yuta(the 3 strongest students) vs sukuna could be a fun match up
That comedian vs sukuna could also be fun, as technically that comedian is technically as strong as gojo, at least from my understading
Would it be fair to say Hakari's infinite CE is like the Androids' infinite Ki? (The "tank" isn't infinitely large, it just never depletes.)
I think a better way of saying this is that the "tank" is infinite but it's just that the engine can only use so much fuel and output so much force and speed at a time.
@@BlandyBoiYT I must have written that while half-asleep, lmao. There's a million better ways to say it.
Since I mentioned Androids, I should have said "a never-ending battery" or some shit.
Thank you for the review as always !!
I'd just like to point out that Toji didn't tank Red, he used the inverted spear of heaven to block red, so realistically he only took a minimal amount because he was not in direct contact
That would surely depend if another cursed item like Inverted Spear of Heaven or Black Rope could be found whose sole purpose is to suppress cursed energy.
If hikari was lightning speed then those projection sorcerers wouldn’t be called second fastest after gojo
Hear me out if there’s ANY other person around Hakari he can use his domain expansion on them. He doesn’t have to kill the person he uses it on he just needs the jackpot so then Hakari can fight Maki with his buff.
Great video. All the thoughts I had on the topic were mentioned, specially regarding how Hakari's abilities would or wouldn't work against Maki and the Soul Liberation Blade.
About the domain, that's exactly what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure the domain simply will not work. Like, at all. Like you said, I believe there's a vow requiring an opponent inside the domain. So I don't even think it would work if the other person is not an opponent, like for Hakari to prime a jackpot before Sukuna or something
But what about reacting fast enough to the electricity going through his brain that he blew it out his nose? I could see the "dodging" not being legit, but he still had to have the capacity to somehow think of the booger lightning solution and implement it in a literal flash.
Good vid. I'm just commenting for the algorithm
So.....maki having the strongest grip means yuta is one handj*ob away to lose his d-
To be honest i think theres more to hakaris ablities because remember the door technique we never saw it again
Hakari scales really high but his feats are lacking badly, only seen him fight with kashimo, unless we see what really Hakari can do, maki beats hakari high diff
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Thank you once again my brotha 💯💪🏾 this would go crazy!!
Curious about your thoughts on this
I’m glad you addressed the question of whether Hakari’s domain would even work against Maki
who said it wouldnt it doesnt target her it targets him
@@TheSylar1982 The narrator themself explained that Maki couldn’t be targeted by the sure-hit effect of domain expansions due to her having zero cursed energy.
@@phillipsmith2201 the domain would still work, maki just wouldn't learn the rules of the game since the rules being implanted into their brain is the sure hit.
@@vincentfarris It’s heavily implied that the sure hit effect is mandatory before Hakari starts rolling in his domain. Otherwise, there would literally be no point to purposely trapping an opponent in a domain.
Hey man, have been watching your content since the shibuya arc and really enjoy it. The only thing I have to say is that I am not a huge fan of the swearing that has popped up lately. I always enjoyed how creative your descriptions were without needing to use coarse language :)
not hakari with the fever 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
The problem with Hakari is that he has only hands and feet and his curse energy property no actually powers at all. Maki is the absolute best taijutsu fighter on the planet since Toji is dead. If it's just straight up hands and feet nothing else Maki wins every time. Even with his jackpot Maki will out last him and she don't need the sword that's how big the skill gap is
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Hakari cure energy has an edge and can hurt anyone even with minimum attack also hakari battle iq is more than her and also he is faster ,i have seen alot in comments that maki dodged nue lighting but hakari also dodged kashimo lightning and you cannot compare curse spirit and someone who was undefeated in the golden era so yeah hakari wins
@@mrnoble3896 Maki actually tanked Nues lightning
Toji and Maki are equal
Will see the video later, but I think Maki both in hand to hand and hax would counter Hakari, but he could still win if he somehow disposes of the Soul Liberation Blade, which I'm sure he would not be able to do without taking soul damage.
Even without it, she has enough durability to tank every attack from him. Not only that, her attack power is also immense.remember, she punched cs naoya straight to the ground when he was moving at mach 3. There's an hell amount of force behind that one punch. And she was doing that casually.
@@indoranoya6414now let’s not push it. She definitely winning with the sword but with out it hakari is taking the w.
So you think it’s possible Yuji is just a special case for heavenly restriction. Ever since the beginning of the series HR signs were everywhere.
His weak curse energy, but superhuman strength, and durability (stronger than Maki’s)
The healing from Sukuna’s punch was definitely the healing Maki, and Toji have, since the series would have told us if Yuji used RCT.
Also there was something about a curse suppression power, it sounds like that’s how Yuji can suppress Sukuna’s soul, and how Toji took control over his body when that sorcerer tried to used his soul to kill foes.
The only difference Yuji have to them is the fact he ate Sukuna’s fingers, and he’s lacking experience, and skill.
Love how well done this video and giving good points for both fighters. Pushing the hakari agenda tho but more than valid to see why maki wins this
NGL I've been sleeping on maki way too much but Now I can see her among the Strong
Before even seeing this i will confidently say Maki washes Hikari no matter the situation. Whether Hikari ambushes her she preps to fight him Hikari doesnt stand a chance even in Jackpot mode. All it would do is stall the inevitable, but i think she would blitz him before he could even do it. Even with his .2 second domain activation.
Lmaooo you overatted so much maki btw hakari jacpot have infinite coursed energy hakari fight kashimo who is à monster kashimo is stronger than maki
I’m pretty sure that Hakaris domain requires the person to understand the rules in order to function so I presume it wouldn’t even activate until she decides to reveal her weapon
That’s not true at all. Charles literally didn’t get the rules at all and it still worked
It’s impossible to not get the rules once the information goes to you
I think advenced reverse cursed technique needs to repair the soul. That would explain why sorceres like Angel and Inumaki didn't recovered their lost limbs after being heal with reverse cursed technique while more adveanced sorceres like Hakari, Yuta and Uro can. Those advanced sorcerers are in away self aware about their souls so they can heal their lost limbs. Also, I think this is another condition in order to master a domain expansion and it is hinted when sukuna made the biding bow with yuji. He said they were in sukuna's inner domain and when mahito tries to touch sukuna's soul he also enters sukuna's inner domain so when a sorcerer expands his domain their are expanding their inners domains which are in a way related to their souls
RCT can only heal your physical body but not the soul. This is why people affected by Mahito's CT can't be healed and it's hinted that Sukuna's CT has something to do with soul too (Inumaki and Angel lost their limbs to him). As for Hakari, Yuta and Uro, they were able to heal their wounds because they were hit by physical attacks, not on the soul
@@Jeff-tu8gd i'd like to think higher levels of RCT can heal your *own* soul, but not others, maybe that could be why someone like sukuna seemingly refuses to heal junpei, and mahito assumes that he couldn't, (i myself am under the impression that because the soul/body of junpei wasn't injured per se, just changed form that RCT couldn't do anything)
cause if you understand the core of cursed energy, you'd have some understanding of your own soul, cursed energy comes from the gut, RCT comes from the head, the soul is one in the same, ergo they correlate very well
alternatively it could be that those that are vessels, (yuji + sukuna) or in this case hana kurusu + angel might meddle with or make it extremely difficult for RCT healing from an outside source, but it's difficult to tell at this stage until we see the contents of the book of souls be revealed to us
@@Jeff-tu8gd"The soul is the body, and the body is the soul." This kind of implies that healing the body is the same as healing the soul so RCT should be able to recover any damage taken from the Soul Split Katana. In the case of Idle Transfiguration, Mahito changes the shape of the soul and doesn't actually harm it in any way which explains why RCT can't repair that damage since there's technically nothing wrong with the soul or body hence there's nothing to heal.
I see Maki, I click. It's that simple.
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I think makis durability is a little over rated, while Hakaris strength is a little underrated but the video is definitely valid. I guess Hakari needs more feats to truly see if he would beat maki or not
Idk if her's is underrated... she surprised Sukunawith her durability and was blown across a city into a Boulder and was completely find to fight. Even crushed by jinichi blow and was fine... crushed by huge rock hands and blasted out of them. Durability pretty high
I’m saying, we’ve only seen him in one major fight. We still need to remember Gojo said he’ll rival him for a reason, this ain’t the peak of his potential.
@@marquisedreams8812 agreed, I think what gives maki the advantage in this match up is the amount of “screen time/page time” she’s had compared to Hakari. But I honestly think the authors intent for Hakari is for him to at least be second to yuta. I know yuta claiming Hakari is stronger then him when he gets going is subjective but in my opinion I think that statement holds a lot of weight for Hakaris overall power and potential. And is most likely true.
@@marquisedreams8812 At this point in the story I doubt he's going to get some massive amp lol
Maki getting catapulted into multiple buildings: "Just give me five minutes."
Maki delivers a one sided beating to Hakari
Great video! I don't see Hakari overcoming that sword, without it the fight feels pretty even, and just a matter of who can outlast the other.
Hakari gets washed instantly since his de wont even recognise maki
Maki wins pretty easily. This is a horrible matchup for hakari. Domain doesn’t touch her = no jackpot for hakari so he’ll be fighting in base form the whole time. Maki is way too fast and can wipe with soul splitter. Todo and Toge weren’t healed with RCT after soul damage
What soul damage did inumaki take?
Because it sure wasn't sukuna you can regenerate from his domain expansion shown by Gojo
How tf this vid only got 304 likes n 4k views ah hell nah you were cooking with this vid keep up the work brother 🙏🙏
13:46 I believe hakari while in jackpot is physically stronger than yuta’s physical capabilities, cause it’s been said by yuta himself that he’s on the weaker side when it comes to natural physical capabilities, even with infinite curse energy making up for that. And from what we’ve seen from hakari, we can certainly tell that he’s very physically gifted, not on yuji’s level, but definitely stronger than yuta without curse energy reinforcement.
Yuta specifically said he’s better when he is on A ROLL meaning it’s possible that hakari probably just wears him out rather then beat him blow for blow
Do you think that yuji can bring back megumi from the depths of despair? He has that info on the soul and he seems to be able to switch bodies with others so could he reforge megumi??
Maki gaslights, gatekeeps, and girlbosses
Hakari hasn’t shown me that he could do any serious damage to Maki. Kashimo came out of that fight pretty ok all limbs intact no internal bleeding etc lol. Meanwhile Maki was getting hit with Mach 3 speed attacks by Naoya and lived. Not to mention she killed the whole Zenin clan while still injured from her fight with Ogi.
Hakari for sure becomes a top tier in jackpot with speed and power but I gotta see more. Punches and kicks not doing it for me.
because he wasnt trying to kill kashimo lmfao
@@TheSylar1982 there a huge gap between trying to kill someone and Incapacitating them lol. Just because he didn’t want to kill him doesn’t mean that his damage should boil down to a nose bleed lmao.
Gojo wasn’t trying to kill Jogo look what he did. Yuta wasn’t trying to kill Ryu look how he left him.
There’s a huge middle ground of the type of damage that can be done that wouldn’t kill someone.
Kashimo getting thrown around from punches to the face and constant nose bleeding and bleeding from the mouth (which implies bleeding from the digestive tract or respiratory system)
To be fair Toji didn’t rank Red he blocked it with the inverted spear of heaven, granted after blocking and being launched he was unharmed and was able to get back up like nothing
Jogo did better 🗣️🔥
I don’t get why when people compare Hakari to someone they dumb Hakari down to a brute who only can throw hands which only shows about 1/3 of Hakari’s true ability.
What makes Hakari strong is his extremely high battle iq, and regenerative abilities. If you make the discussion about how is faster and stronger of course Maki is going to win. But when you actually add Hakari’s battle iq which is almost impossible to quantify in a video like this it really favors hakari.
And regardless who wins it’s not one sided
What did you see Hakari do that was so smart?
@@kharirichards he is a high iq fighter while fighting with bernard who can literally see into future he attacked his blind spots,and kashimo poisoned him but he remained calm and within a second neutralize it ,if he didn't he would have died ,he still is an incomplete character
@@mrnoble3896 Speeding things up because Charles can see 1 or 2 seconds into his future is not a sign of high intelligence.
No one looks at Gojo, Naoya, Naobito, Toji, Maki getting into blind spots with their speed as "high iq."
As for the poison, his JP mode did all the heavy lifting, he was unconscious.
You keep dropping these banger videos but again you forgot that Kinji simply has that dog in him so he wins
The way i see it, Hakari can't hit his jackpot against Maki so he'd be at a disadvantage but if he did have jackpot he'd either be stronger or they'd be very close as it's implied the three of them (maki, yuta, and hakari) are
Can you make why Yuji vs Kamatapu Tanpachiro isn't close ?
I mean, Maki definetly outscales Hakari when it comes to physical stats, especially speed wise. Plus her soul splitter would be quite troublesome, i'm not even actually sure rct can heal damage done to the soul, and if that's not the case, even in jackpot Hakari could get severlely damaged.
You know with jackpot hakari have infinite energy cursed
Hakari, would be able to heal his soul because he has automatic reverse cursed technique. The fact that he got Kashimo Poisen
out of his body shows you how automatic it is
You cant heal souls with RCT. That was Mahito's whole thing
@@Ntnt11 mahito said too (when talking to kenjaku) that everybody is different based on their ct sooo maybe hakari got a chance🤷♂
@@Ntnt11mahito never said that nice headcanon
It is what it is.
Maki was able to use anothers technique. Ie the sumo and stuff so idk if it was and oversight or she does still exist with cursed energy enough to be able to be put in a domain...
Maki clearly consented to being in the Sumo guys Domain, she still has 0 CE
Late but team Maki for the win!
The sword not a problem since hakari soul is protected by curse energy seeing how sorcerer are able to unconsciously protect there soul with ce saying how mahito say about namami and hakari is so full with a infinite of ce he can auto heal I would be 100 sure his soul will also be under the same effect seeing how mahito explain the soul molds the body and him healing his body without thinking meals he can cover his soul wit ce without thinking the real question is she patient enough for hakari to really get wreckless and count on it but if I had to bet I put it all on hakari
Editing my original comment, I no longer agree. Soul liberation blade doesn't just harm the soul, it also bypasses all durability. This has to include CE because Toji easily carved up the rainbow dragon curse
Interesting point. I always forget that Nanami defended against idle transfiguration. Even though it was a weak version of Mahito that's still incredibly impressive. So I actually think you're right honestly, logically Hakari should be protected from external attacks on his soul.
The only thing is that a bloodlusted Maki would take him out before he can land a jackpot. It's also quite possible he cannot use his domain at all, as it won't be able to lock onto Maki. Even if he could, she can just stab him through the barrier the same way she did Naoya
what is that intro song ive been looking for that for like 2 months now
Yo Hakari wins mid diff he defeated Kashimo and yuta said Hakari is stronger than him
Exactly man
Bro the only advantage she has is the soul split katana
Im not sure hakari can take this one, maki should mid diff imo
Maki probably would win if she is actually getting close to toji
A unit or a slot machine
I’m confused about hakaris rct because would he die in jackpot if his head is destroyed
Yes
Yes
You guys forget, when Gojo became awaken told you stood no chance . Now an even stronger Gojo admits that Hakari as well as Yutta will surpass him. And I don’t understand your logic about Hakari not being the speed of light . Bro literally is reacting to lighting . Stop down playing Kashimo 🤦🏾♂️ bro is really top teir I don’t think maki is even beating him truth be told . Let alone Hakari. You act like Kashimo is some chump.
Hakari never reacted to lightning. Lol
The strongest grip and she left it all behind, my kind of woman
Hakari can’t even cast a domain since his sure hit is information dump which won’t affect Maki
So domain conditions won’t even be fulfilled so why wouldn’t it fail?
why would it fail when it was never said the info dump was needed for the domain to work?
@@TheSylar1982 dude just think for yourself im not spoon fooding you the answer
counterargument: maki couldnt react to uraume yet hakari was bullying her ass also he's extremely lucky
maki isnt mach 3 she literally caught a bullet at point blank range and when you consider the amount of speed blitzes we see in jjk it makes no sense
The blade and the fact rika can be knockedouz by ryu punches i am thinking that yuta vs maki is very i mean very close depending if maki has something to hide herself like trees or buildings. I mean yuta can only use his copy with rika. What are your thoughts
you bet on gmbla. what else needs to be said
What we’re really in need of is for Hakari or Kash-Money to fight someone we know the strength of. Then we can begin to properly gauge their relative power levels
One-shotting Panda doesn’t really help, sadly 🐼
Yuta’s statement of “he’s even stronger than me when he’s on a roll” would help, if we didn’t have Maki immediately disputing it. Both should be able to accurately gauge his power. Yuta has a tendency to be humble and Maki would clearly have bias toward Yuta, so we can’t know
Now I think maki’s insanely powerful, maybe 7th or 8th in terms of the rankings (hot take but I think higuruma is above her with enough time to train he can get wild) and I do think overall hakari is stronger, at number 5. I think if she has ANY other cursed tool, hakari sweeps and its not close. If we’re talking about WITH the soul splitting katana, then hakari might have an issue because that’s kind of a counter to the jackpot, and anything really. That being said…I can see hakari being able to pull it off in the long run, but it’ll be tough, and WITH that took I think maki takes it tbh. However thats up to you to decide if you count the soul split katana or not. Personally, I dunno if its fair to give one person a broken cursed tool and not the other, but that’s up to the individual person. Even so, with soul split katana, maki sweeps. Without or with a different tool, hakari sweeps.
TLDR, its not particularly fair to say one is stronger than the other 100% of the time. Maki without the katana would lose or with a different tool, with the katana she’d probably win. Or gege pulls a gege and pulls something outta nowhere
Sorry for the long comment I like talking about jjk powerscaling
Toji has the strongest grip , he snatched the weapon like nothing
i think hakari is stronger by a decent margin but maki is really just a bad matchup for him.
Maki is the worst matchup for Hakari
Unless later in the series Hakari is shown to heal from soul damage he can’t really do anything
I think if no one was trapped in DE, would Hakari be playing solitaire?
it’s a pachinko machine?
@@enemystanduser This is a card game for lonely bored women
Maki is toji with less exp. only problem is that hakari isnt as fast as lighting, but his raction time is that fast.
I feel like we dk enough about his domain and his innate technique to talk about this
Maki beats Hakari base to base and she could probably get around and kill Hakari before he can proc his domain or land a jackpot, but if Hakari gets a Jackpot and since Maki wouldn’t get the information dump and would be clueless during hakari’s domain and wouldn’t know when Hakari would get a jackpot, Hakari should win if he gets 1 jackpot off. Off of my interpretations, Maki stomps if Hakari is unlucky for the first time in his life or can’t even get a domain off, but if Hakari gets a jackpot he slams.
mach 3 = 2280 mph
lightning=272000mph
maki is faster because hakari couldn't dodge kashimo who is literally a hundred times faster than naoya(seems illogical).
-talking about just hands, cursed reinforcement and unlimited jackpot CE and RCT gives hakari the edge because without cursed weapons no mattter what she does hakari can heal and come back and she would only get tired without replenishing energy.
-DE doesnt need to work on maki to activate as hakari's domain has implecation on himself. its just like activating a domain with a rock in it, he gets all the boost without giving a conditions to rock.
-the Zenin clan feat is impressive considering all of them were first grade and below , none of them even close to their former clan head even in his old age.
-cursed blade included maki is a problem with very few competition, those very few being yuta, hakari, and especially gojo and sukuna (Special grade Socereres). like i said she hasnt given any feats saying she's faster than kashimo's techniques, if she gets hits on yuta or hakari's head then it would be a problem but the problem is her feats only show supersonic speed or a little above that. Gojo would destroy her like he did with toji and sukuna's DE is especially made to kill her.
- all im saying is with weapon she would be a monster fighting against hakari who i believe can keep up with her(manga doesnt show other wise) and could go either way with maki planning like toji etc..
without any tools just 0 CE VS Unlimited CE hakari would kill her on a very destructive one sided battle (no matter how fast she is hakari would keep up with cursed reinforced speed and do the same with strength with an unlimited CE imbued body)
WHAT??? i'm sorry, some of your arguments made 0 sense. 1st off hakari did not dodge the lightning and Naoya has the fasted travel speed in the series other than Gojo, Maki blatantly can react to Mach 3 and can literally tell how the opponent will move.
This is the same Maki trading blows with 15F sukuna (in Ch.215 the 10% was only in regard to CT, so its still 100% physical power 100% CE reinforcement) HELL YEAH I think she's faster! she doesn't need to be as fast aa Lightning, or Mach 3 because she's already fast enough with speed directly referenced with sukuna! Hakari and others like Kashimo, yuta etc can probably keep up but that doesn't take away from her speed.
Tell me 1 feat the former zenin clan head(Naobito) did More impressive then Maki's feats. be serious
she is without a Doubt Up there with Hakari and Yuta
Yuji is better hand to hand. Maki is better with weapons
Not true at all
@@Kotasake why not?
@@Kisuke258 maki is shown to keep up and put hands on sukuna, yuki literally needed makis help to even keep up in speed. Maki clearly above yuji
Maki is definitely more skilled than that Brain dead imp
i really think hakari would win tbh ( if he's lucky obviously ) in base form there is just no dif he's taking the L but in jackpot + domain expension i think he would win if sukuna could regenerat from the soul split katana well i think he can too and in term of strength he's BEATING HER DOWN but loosing in speed and i think their pretty much in the same durability level
so i think its either a tie because maki is really strong but if hakari is lucky then he's winning
maki. she has zenin pedigree
Success lies in pre-plan ladies and gentlemen. Through pre-plan Toji had his way with the strongest duo in the scene and made it look simple while doing it. Kenjaku manipulates the strongest sorcerers in the scene. if both characters faced their foes 1v1 they die instantly. If Maki pre-plans she obviously one-shots Hakari but its still close even if its a straight 1v1.
alright calm down just give Hakari some feats
Lightning isn’t 1/3 the speed of light. His attacks are direct lightning attacks that travel 270,000mph. Still stupid crazy but not even close to 1/3 the speed of light. STROKE lightning is when the initial strike has been made propagating a channel for the electrons to travel through freely. There has to be a initial strike, a open channel for any other charges to make a dart path which is a straight and open channel compared to regular stepped lightning which you can clearly see his lightning is stepped. If I hear this 1/3 the speed thing again I swear you couldn’t do your due diligence and look up the speed of lightning.
ok bruuh, I based it off the return stroke or Cloud to ground Lightning which is what Kashimos Electricity is based on, so nothing changes, maybe I should have made that more clear for for people like you, who would are on my ass about an irrelevent feat I put in as a joke
Lmao so essentially he highballed Maki and then low balled Hakari. Base Hakari was ragdolling the same yuji that was holding his own against Yuta and Full Power Mahito.
don’t exactly know what you mean, when 1)yuji basically asked to get beat, 2) yuji was holding back against yuta(not that it matters) and 3) FP mahito was confirmed to be able to rip yuji apart if he didn’t land his final Black flash.
I’m really not downplaying base hakari, but he is NOT fighting current Maki without Jackpot, she basically no diffed cursed Naoya after her awakening and even threw hands with 15F sukuna, y’all play too much😅
Mahito is Fodder compared to Maki
Yeah I love the vid with the way you interpreted their abilities and compared them but i just looked it up and in japan the pachinko game isnt really seen as gambling cause in real life you naturally need one player hakari domain wont work on maki but the domain would still be active passively he would be immortal also so far hakari speed due to lightning according to vs battle wiki is mach 4760 and maki speed isnt up to that also ppl saying that she dodged sukuna nue lightning doesnt make sense cuz it wasnt at point blank range also thats the speed of the bird not the lightning only win con she has is the sword either way i would love to see both of them jump someone like what nanami and yuji did to mahito.
She’s behead him before he could even blink
Toji vs Kashimo is Closer than you think
Kashimo slams that boy
Turns him into an apple logo