TRAGIC to Watch Our First Time Watching CAPTAIN AMERICA CIVIL WAR (2016) Reaction |Movie Reaction|
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Both Cap & Tony were *_RIGHT,_* but for the *_WRONG_* reasons.
Tony was right to feel that they should accept more responsibility & even answer for some of the deaths they may have inadvertently caused while saving others. The *_WRONG_* reason was when he was “triggered” to go that route by losing Pepper & Charlie Spencer’s mother’s guilt trip. That simply CAN NOT EVER cause you to reevaluate saving the planet - your girl being mad at you or an individual being extremely sad b/c of a single loss (tho the single loss was important to them).
Cap was right to feel that they should not surrender to government agencies with agendas. They (the UN) could fake a terrorist attack from a middle Eastern country and now, the Avengers are helping the U.S. steal oil from innocent people for the next century (or something like that). The *_WRONG_* reason was when Cap was #TeamSaveBuckyAtAllCosts Cap was just not going to allow Bucky to face consequences. He put every single other Avenger in sincere jeopardy (including his legitimate “friends” in Tony, Falcon & Widow). It’s fine if Bucky’s your CLOSEST, but he was in position to potentially let some of his friends DIE to save Bucky. . .& when we found out he actually knew of Tony’s parent’s fate - that sealed it.
Again: both had quality foundations & cared deeply for others while taking their stance(s). . .& both compromised to a negative extent while making their position(s) known. #Top3MCUmovie #EpicCasting #LOVEtheCHANNEL
The best breakdown of one of my favorite MCU movies ever!
@@denisjohnson8198easily!💯
#NailedIt🔥
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Enough said👏👏👏
"Two old men beat up an orphan with a heart condition" is my favorite technically correct description of this movie 😂
"A rich asshole picks a fight with two world war 2 veterans and pays the price"
@@insertnamehere2746nope
Fun fact, the job the Russo brothers did with the winter soldier and civil war got them the job to do infinity war and endgame which is the 2 best .
wow cannot wait to see them again!
@@TheOctobersReactbring your tissue 😢when you see that one soon
@@TheOctobersReact before infinity war and endgame you should make predictions on what you think will happen and/or who might not make it. At the end you can see how right or wrong you were
And now you know why Hulk and Thor weren’t in the film. Wouldn’t have been much of a fight with those two in it.
@@tomclark5924 depends on what team they side with plus I’ll take the scarlet witch as my number 1 draft any day of the week unless maybe endgame cap
Fun fact: Wanda didn't "push" Vision through the floor. She used her powers to change his mass and make him so heavy that the floor collapsed underneath him.
Also, I don't know if you recognize General Ross (now Secretary Ross) from "The Incredible Hulk". He was played by William Hurt, who also passed away not too long ago.
Williams hurts a good actor
She did push him after he fell off the few floors you can see her magic
Also general Ross is being recasted, Harrison Ford is gonna play him
She mentioned that Ross was the 'almost father-in-law' to Hulk, so yeah, they got that, which many do not.
@@edit_bee she didn't just "push" him through the floor, she took control of the mindstone in his head (we saw it glowing in response to her power) and increased his density/mass, so the floor couldn't support him. But yes she was also pushing him down with telekinesis.
A very cool thing about this movie is that the other winter soldiers were all played by the stunt doubles to the other actors. The big white dude that got most of the screen time was Chris Evans’ stunt double, the one woman (Heidi Moneymaker, which is the only name I can remember) was Scarlett Johansson’s stunt double, the black guy was one of the two guys who played both Falcon and Black Panther’s stunt double, and so on and so forth. It was cool because they actually played their own characters for the first time without being someone else’s stunt double. And Sebastian Stan, the guy who played Bucky, threw an after party just for the stunt team when the filming was over. They really all really appreciated that, and even posted pictures from that party on their Instagram pages!
Now… About this storyline though… keep in mind that the first mind controlled person we saw in the release order of the MCU was Clint. Loki took control of his mind with the scepter. In age of Ultron, everybody had their minds controlled by Wanda, except for Clint. Clint was the one who stopped her with the electrified arrow to her forehead while saying, “I tried the whole mind control thing, I didn’t like it.“ So the fact that absolutely everybody was instantly forgiven for any and all atrocities they may have committed while under mind control, but Bucky was not, it really makes you think. Especially since they were under my control for hours or days while he was under my control for a minimum of 50 years. As for the Sokovia accords themselves, I truly hate secretary Ross. If you notice during his little pitch meeting of the accords to the team, he’s showing the video evidence of the four different places in which they were fighting. If you notice to the right hand side of the screen that showing the video, it shows the casualty count. In New York there was 74 people who died. In DC there was 23. In Sokovia there was 177. And in Lagos there was 26. Which means the governments of 117 countries in the world wanted to basically enslave the Avengers because of 300 deaths. Keep in mind in New York, the world council that Nick Fury was talking to, unanimously voted to nuke New York!!! That would’ve been about 8 million people that would’ve died not including the fall out area. In DC, those three Hellacarriers, which were “under SHIELD’s control”, but was actually under that same world council’s control for Project Insight which was run by hydra, they were about to wipe out at LEAST 715,000 people and counting in just their first day of launch. And in Sokovia, the whole city was going to be used as an extinction level “meteorite”. So that would’ve wiped out the whole planet. And finally, for Lagos, I’m pretty sure there were more than 26 people in that market place that we’re about to be taken out by Rumlow’s suicide bomb, not to mention the bio weapon that he was there to steal. So the Avengers has already saved the world once over and has saved millions of people a few times. HOWEVER, six of the 13 movies you’ve seen so far have had villains because of Tony Stark/Stark Industries. And this is not the end of the villains that Tony created. It’s always the ones that feel the most guilty who want to restrict others. I am 100% team Cap. And he was protecting Bucky not totally because he’s Steve’s best friend and the only person he has left from the past, but I am absolutely positive he would do the same for anyone else in Bucky’s position. Bucky was an innocent, good man, who was tortured and experimented on for 20 years before they broke his mind enough to wipe it, and control him completely for his 50 year reign as the Winter Soldier. All the while being put back “on ice“ and having his mind wiped again with that horrible device that went on his head between each mission.
And to be honest, I am fairly certain that Black Widow knew about Bucky killing Stark’s parents. If you remember, at the end of Captain America: the Winter soldier, when Nat was handing Steve Bucky’s file, she said “You may not want to pull on that thread.” They learned from Zola’s computerized consciousness that Hydra shaped world events and killed people along the way. He showed a picture of Tony’s dad with a line through him to show that they killed Howard Stark. And I THINK the file that Nat handed Steve confirmed many of Bucky’s missions and their outcomes. I think Nat saying that was her warning that it was going to get really personal. So I really think she knew, too.
It’s a tossup for me when it comes to which of the MCU movies I think is the best. It’s either the Winter soldier or Civil War. It depends on how I feel at the moment! 😅 But Bucky is still my number one favorite character. He is going to have an amazing character arc both in the movies and tv shows, but much more so in the tv shows, that I hope you guys get to watch, too. BUT if you do watch, the TV shows, I highly recommend getting the X-Men movies under your belts first. If you haven’t already, that is. X-Men before WandaVision tv show, and before the second Doctor Strange movie. 👍🏻😉👍🏻 ❄️🫡🦾🇺🇸#️⃣☝🏻💙💙💙
whoah... nice details. And watch WHAT IF... before the Doctor Strange Madness movie... and watch Into The Spider-verse before Spider-man No Way Home.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Excellent analysis of why Team Cap is the right side. The government’s case makes no sense. And most of those 300 casualties were not killed by the avengers. They were killed by aliens, they were killed by hydra while they were trying to launch weapons to kill millions more, and they were killed by a suicide bomber. Wanda throwing the blast in the air only changed who was killed, not that people were killed. And as you said, more people would have died if the bomb stayed on the ground because the market was more crowded. The only deaths “on” the avengers is those caused by Ultron; and those are really on Tony and Banner, not the avengers as a whole. Excellent analysis of his guilt, btw. I never put it together until your comment, but Tony/Stark has made a lot of villains! He is their origin story. My two points of difference is that (1) I don’t think Steve knew it was Bucky that killed Tony’s parents. I think he knew it was hydra, but hydra had many assassins. He knew it could have been Bucky, but he didn’t know it for sure. I recall one of the Russo brothers expressing that this was their view and how they directed it. (2) I think Steve stopped Tony from killing Bucky not only for the reasons that you mentioned, but also because he want to stop Tony (also his friend) from becoming a cold-blooded murderer.
I love Steve Roger’s character arc. In the first Captain America and Avengers films, he did whatever the government told him. No questions asked. He was a loyal soldier. Because of Hydra infiltrating SHIELD, he now realizes that governments can be corrupt and have agendas.
Hydra also infiltrated the US government, and that's only what we've been shown. How old would Steve be in actual upright years on earth? Maybe early 20's here? He's still learning how to navigate the world and to think as an adult.
@@MoMoMyPup10 Very true.
That's not true. In the first Captain America, he violated orders to go rescue the 107th.
makes sense for sure
@@MoMoMyPup10in this film he is around 31 if my math is right. He was roughly 27 in Avengers 1
Would I trust the UN if I was a hero? No way. Would I trust the heroes if I was a regular person or a government authority in their world? Absolutely not, especially with Hulk, Wanda and Bucky on their team. A ton of people died by their hands with no real accountability. In any case, great reaction - enjoy the rest of the films!!
This is probably the most sensible take in this entire comment section.
Don't forget that it's the government who decided to launch a nuke on Manhattan in Avengers. Without the "loose" heroes, and Iron Man redirecting that nuke, more than 1 son would have died, also without real accountability.
And dont forget it was Iron man who made Ultron, not Thor and Steve
@@insertnamehere2746True, but he wouldn't have made him if Wanda didn't put that vision in his head.
@@edwardarroyo884 And wanda wouldn't have hated stark so much if he didn't destroy her family and home. It's like a circle, the blame just shifts. But yes, wanda's morals are still very questionable, and it's just outright wrong if you've watched wandavision
Bout time!!! One of the best movies of the MCU so far. Looking forward to the watch.
we enjoyed it ! we got way too offended lol
Consider this. During WWII, Steve was all in for the Government, but he came back and after the events of Captain American and the Winter Soldier he learned things can be corrupted, thus his distrust of the Stokavian Accords. It was a logical shift.
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Someone can correct whether i was right or wrong but when the spiderman movies away from the mcu was being made, marvel tried to get a little cameo of stark tower in the amazing spiderman 2 (2014) just as a little link to the mcu but sony didnt agree. And civil war almost didnt have spiderman in it aswell. He wasnt in the trailer shots that he appeared in the movie because the agreements got finalised in the last few months before the release
You should watch the Tobey maguire and Andrew Garfield Spiderman real soon
@@jxy8938 That's Correct, but the movie in question was actually the first "Amazing Spider-Man," which was also released in 2012...the same year as the first "Avengers" Movie.
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We got another storm coming this weekend, charge your phones😭!
Yes, Chadwick passed away from colon cancer. At an unusually young age too. Pretty sure he actually had it the whole time while he was in the Marvel movies, and he kept it a secret, which makes it even more amazing how he was able to film, tour, etc while having cancer. Fans started to notice something was wrong though the last time he was seen in public, because he was unusually thin, but most people just assumed he had lost weight for a new movie role. It was a huge shock when news came of him dying.
Rest in peace. He definitely was a humble warrior on both sides of the filming industry
He will never be forgotten by marvel fans
@@erfanMASTER69 never! i tear up every time he makes his 1st appearance in these movies.
They incorporated that into Wakanda forever too. With the way Shuri mentions how he "suffered in silence".
You can always catch him in The Gods of Egypt where his acting gets to shine with a totally different character and style.
I'm glad you all are doing okay. What cap knew about Tony's parents is he knew from being told by the AI scientist on winter soldier that Tony Stark's family had been eliminated by Hydra. He did not know that Bucky was the one to kill them, that's why he said" I didn't know it was him". People often mistaken this for thinking that Steve knew that bucket killed Tony Stark parents
But he knew the winter soldier was the one that did it, and he learned who that was and still didn't say anything, so he did know
@@carlmccartney1025 Cap found out Tony's parents were murdered when he was confronted by the Zola AI, which was yammering about how Hydra changed the world and flashed an image of a headline announcing the Starks' deaths. He had no logical way of knowing Bucky was the assassin, even after Cap learned Bucky was the legendary Winter Soldier. The killer could have been someone like Rumlow, for all he knew. Until that reveal, Tony and everyone else "knew" the Starks were killed in a car crash, nothing more. Cap probably thought why reopen old wounds for Tony and burden him with the knowledge that his parents were murdered?
@@carlmccartney1025Tony didn't even open up to Steve about it in the first place
@@carlmccartney1025 Correct. In TWS Zola showed him the news article regarding the death of Howard Stark and his wife followed by a picture of Bucky implying that Bucky carried it out. Steve knew already back then before Ultron who killed Tony's parents and kept it a secret.
Spidey was excited to just be there, he was having the best time! Both sides were right, at least to an extent. I love how at the end of it, Steve was like "We may not be on good terms at the moment, but I still got your back if you need it." That showed that while there's some issues between them that will likely always be there, they're still friends and they respect each other. Hulk and Thor weren't in this one because Thor isn't human and Hulk is off the grid. Chadwick filmed this, Black Panther, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame(as well as a couple of other great movies like "42: The Jackie Robinson Story") all while battling colon cancer. He was a talented actor and family man gone too soon, RIP Chadwick Boseman.
wow that is so sad thanks for telling us that and thanks for watching
Team Cap.
You had Zemo pegged. Nice. Daniel Brühl did a great job as Zemo. His "Did it" reply to Bilbo Baggins asking how it felt to have his plan fail gives me chills. Essentially, Zemo's plan worked. He may have been captured, but he won. Avengers came apart from within.
Zemo murdered co-director Joe Russo. He was the Doctor in the tub. He was credited as Gozie Agbo.
So cool to have Black Panther and Spooder-Man introduced in this movie.
Binarily Augmented Retro-Framing (B.A.R.F.) is easily replaced by Neurologically Augmented Retro-Framing (N.A.R.F.). Guess where I got that idea? NARF!
Problem solved, Tony.
They haven’t gotten to the Hobbit reaction yet. I believe he’s Everett Ross played by Martin Freeman.
@@ricardoortiz4870 Yes.
Agreed! He is the best villain in these mcu thing for me.
Great reaction! The way the Russo brothers juggled and honored all these different characters was masterful! You're going to love Dr. Strange and Black Panther! Enjoy the ride, y'all!
You left out guardians of the galaxy volume 2, Spiderman homecoming, and thor ragnarok in between
Yes the Russo's managed to give Capt. America one more minute of screen time than Ironman.... :)
Captain America is ALWAYS on the side of what’s right and true.
And General/Secretary Ross is ALWAYS on the side of what's wrong and stupid. Ross is the longest-running villain in the MCU.
Damn right!
HE THINKS HE IS
Cap is always on the side of what He thinks is right and true. He’s very black and white. No gray area for him.
@@Liz33991 No gray areas have been presented to him.
One thing I love is how Zemos's plan actually has nothing to do with the Accords or the conflict they bring. The only thing he needed was that mission report, that video. Using Bucky as a scapegoat? The Accords? The Avengers already at odds with themselves? Cap and Stark arrival at Siberia? All happy accidents, the cherry on top for him. Even if that encounter in Siberia didn't happen Zemo would only need to release that video in some way and the damage would've been done.
But yeah, we start Phase 3 with the Avengers broken, half of them fugitives of international justice... Earth defenses as a whole are weaker than ever.
And Thanos is coming.
PD: Phase 2 is, at least for me, about introducing the infinity stones and showing the Avengers at their prime before the "fall" in this movie.
I feel so bad for Wanda, she looked so broken in the raft.
😌😌 poor wanda
Zemo is the first tragic villain in the MCU, he not tried to conquer the world like Loki or Ultron or whatever. He lost his entire family in Sokovia and the Avenger just leave. Zemo is the representation of the colateral damage that superheroes could make to the world.
Thats why TChalla didnt kill him, because at the end even he could understand why Zemo was trying to destroy the Avengers and realize that he was walking the same path of revenge and destruction
The Airport Battle will forever be Iconic. We all knew going on that this movie was going to split them up, that there was going to be tension, but it was such an amazing experience to see how it all played out.
This is honestly one of those movies where you can see both sides of an issue. Steve had a point because they’d just dealt with the breach of Hydra and he didn’t trust authority as much as he used to, he’s set on doing what he thinks is right, even if it’s not the right thing overall. Also, this is directly involving his best friend, he kind of ignores the fact that even though Bucky was under the control of Hydra’s brain washing, he DID kill many people, many who didn’t deserve to die. He is human until the conditioning kicks in, then he becomes nothing more than a cocked gun ready to shoot. Steve was way too close, emotionally to this situation to react rationally, but of course it’s easy to understand why he’d push back and fight for him. He knew that if they could figure out how to get free him from the brainwashing they’d see he wasn’t a monster. Steve has always kind of operated on his own Justice code. He is CAPTAIN AMERICA sure, but he’d turn on his country’s government just like that if he didn’t believe in something, which is exactly what happened. You can’t always trust that the government knows what’s best for the country, especially when they are scared of what people like Wanda can do. I like what Steve said “In the end the safest hands are still our own.” There’s not many people in this universe that are known and on the governments radar that are really capable of fighting these enemies and it makes deciding whether they should operate with or without government supervision a really difficult dilemma.
I also think that Tony was right to an extent as well. I mean, while it’s true that the damaged caused by trying to keep people safe is unavoidable, they are a team that seems to have sort of evaded the law. Like Ross said, crossing borders illegally, causing property damage and putting people in danger ( even while intentionally trying to protect) without much consequence, it’s going to ruffle some feathers. They seem to be the only ones with that advantage. They also have a right to be nervous about the inability to track down the Hulk and Thor, as both have their own level of unpredictability and danger to people. Especially the Hulk. Last everyone saw him he was rampaging. No one knew he was being corrupted by Wanda, then, he just disappeared and no one knows where he went. Big safety risk right there. Tony also has the guilt thing going on, Sokovia was entirely his fault, being faced with some of those consequences, of course it makes sense.
My personal opinion tends to lean more toward Tony, even though he made some mistakes I feel that the concept of basic regulation is not that bad of an idea when it comes to worlds with superhero teams like this. Though I do have to say, it’s impossible to say that I 100 percent agree with Tony or Steve, because either way, you have issues. It’s something I’d have to experience to truly know my stance. It would depend on who I am, what I can do, who I know, and what I’ve been involved with in the past.
I think you guys are going to love the mcu Spider-man. Tom Holland is a brilliant actor, I think he was 17 or 18 here. Compared to the other two franchises this adaptation of his really chose to take on a more youthful approach to the character and it has really made the character memorable.
As always, I look forward to your next reaction. 😄
Zemo’s plan was to separate the Avengers, and he definitely succeeded. One of the most successful villains in the MCU imo
He was so lucky when Bucky was given instructions to get the serum and leave NO WITNESSES, there just happed to be a camera - right there - along that long open stretch of road. Seriously? When you watch these enough it's hard not to look behind the curtain . . . . .
too bad they took the mentality of a separate cap villain and added it to Zemo instead.
@@scottb3034which cap villain does this in the comics?
@@Shap0o.PlayZz A character named Johann Fennhoff/Dr Faustus, a character named after the literary character Dr Faustus and the German folklore Faust (the classic deal with the devil story).
Anyway, Faustus is a genius intellect and psychologist adept at manipulating others and through deceptions (some like Zemo disguising himself as Barnes) gets people to do as he wishes. He had a storyline where he attempts to drive Cap mad by making him hallucinate in waking life and have nightmares at night. He also treated peggy and sharon at points because he infiltrated SHIELD as a psychologist. He was able to convince Sharon Carter to attempt to end her own life via his persuasive capabilities (he tries this on several that he's brainwashed) and brainwashed Captain America to do his bidding.
In fact, Faustus is most infamous for brainwashing Sharon Carter into "killing" Steve Rogers in the climax of the CIVIL WAR COMIC. He later plays a major part in the trial of Bucky Barnes where he helps Cap, Falcon and Widow's defense strategy by demonstrating his abilities in the court to help exonerate Bucky for his crimes as the Winter Soldier because he was brainwashed. He is basically most well-known in the comics for the movie version Baron Zemo.
Helmut Zemo in the movie is Johann Fennhoff. The reasons Zemo is used are the fact that Faustus was used in the Agent Carter tv show and Zemo is a bigger name...not the first time they did this however. Alexander pierce from the Winter Soldier is essentially a different character as well.
@@scottb3034 Thank you for the detailed info. Alright understood.. if it's not a problem, tell me about Alexander Pierce as well.. I'd like to learn more..
I'm glad you guys are back.
This movie is so complex.
Looking forward to the next reaction, you guys are great!
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I can't wait for you to see Vision's entire development in the MCU, despite him being very undervalued he remains a great character, the one who is there to show you the humanity that can exist is a synthezoid!
So don't worry you did not miss any Spider-Man films, Civil War was Peters Parkers and Spider-Mans introduction into the MCU. Sony own the movie rights to Spider-Man but Kevin Feige the President of Marvel Studios has tried for years to get Spider-Man in the MCU. Sony at the time were working on The Amazing Spider-Man films so they were very much doing there own thing. In 2015, Sony Pictures announced a partnership with Marvel Studios where the two studios would work together on a series of Spider-Man films, this being why you'll see the Sony logo and Columbia Pictures intros when watching the MCU Spider-Man films.
Kevin Feige even got a team together to make sure this deal went through. There were versions of the Civil War script that did not feature Spider-Man with Antman being Team Iron Man instead of Captain America which would've changed his character and future going forward. But thankfully Spider-Man was added into the MCU and the rest is history.
MCU Spider-Man:
The MCU Spider-Man has only been active for a couple of months. At 15 Peter was bitten by a spider, within the MCU we aren't sure where but I imagine inside a lab owned by a Corporation doing tests on Spiders. This is all similar to the comics but the biggest difference is how the MCU Spider-Man is thrown into the deep end right away working with the Avengers and even getting his first "real" Spider-Man suit from Tony Stark. Peter designed the suit visually but it's built using Stark Tech so were seeing a very advanced Spider-Man in his first year as Spider-Man something Peter in the comics didn't reach until his late teens and early 20s. By the time of Civil War in the comics Peter was in his early 20s and showed up in a new Iron Spider suit protected by Tony.
In the comics Peter basically starts out very low tech creating his web shooters but the suit itself is just Spandex and overtime with help from characters like Mister Fantastic of the F4 and even pulling ideas from his villains Peter upgrades his suit and gear. But at 15 the idea of Peter being this advanced in tech is pretty new and makes him stand out from the other Spider-Man films for better or for worse depending on how you prefer Spider-Man.
I personally would've preferred a few solo Spider-Man films first going through High School with a low tech Spider-Man working by himself and then when Peter is in college 18 to 21 he is then introduced to the Avengers and we see him taking part in Civil War. But overall I'm just glad we have Spider-Man interacting with other Marvel hero's something we've never got to see in live action. Tom Holland himself is great as Spider-Man and actually looks like a 15 year old, Toby for example who played Spider-Man in the 2000s very much looked like a college student, same with the other students.
Civil War:
The Civil War event is pulled from the comics put very much a much smaller scale event focused more so on The Avengers than all Superhero's. The comics of course had far more hero's from Avengers, X-Men, Fantastic Four, etc. The Superhero Registration Act comes into play where hero's who sign have to give up there secret identity and work on behalf of the government. Iron Man is for this while Captain America is against. In the MCU we have the Sokovia Accords solely aimed at The Avengers.
one of the best MCU films to date..
the complexity, the balance between all the characters, the struggles, the point of views, the plot twists..i think what makes the movie great is that you understand each side, that atleast for a moment, you doubt which side you're on..Tony came from shitting the govt in Iron Man 1&2, and experiencing the consequences of it in Avengers, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron, thats why he acted the way he did here..Cap was a boyscout in the 1st Cap movie and the Avengers..all about following orders, but experiencing Winter Soldier and Age of Ultron made him think that he cant really trust a governing body..both flipped because of their ideals and experiences..
Phase 2 deals with the aftermath of Avengers and the introduction of the Infinity Stones..
Fun Fact: one of the directors, Joe Russo, played the dead psychiatrist..
Tom Holland is the 3rd actor to play spiderman..remember, the Spiderman franchise and all related characters is owned by Sony, thats why Toby's and Andrew Garfield's spiderman films are a separate franchises from the mcu..Tobey's spiderman came and end just before the MCU, then Andrew's was Sony's answer to the MCU but didnt went well so Sony made a deal with Disney to share spiderman to the MCU..thats why we have a new spiderman, and he can now join the mcu..
RIP chadwick..
Great reaction as always guys. You two are so dialed in, and it is fun to watch with you. This is one of my favorites, but it is complicated. I was all Cap all the way, but it is easy to see both sides.
What I find interesting is that Tony started off being the one who rebelled against authority while Steve was a product of an institution. When we get to this movie, their perspectives have reversed.
Many have nicknamed this one Avengers 2.5. If there is a theme in this phase, I guess it would be about rising stakes and unforseen consequences. Some have compared it to an arc in the comics called Avengers: Disassembled.
It's interesting how close to the 'mutant problem' this storyline concerning the accords is. You know what Magneto would say :)
26:41 Yeah he is new, but thats freaking Jarvis running around in a Cape, more or less 😂😂.. ofc he would know a lot.
"I'm pretty sure the whole universe doesn't bend to Tony Stark's will.!"... Ha!.
55:20 That's how tragic Bucky's life is, he remembers all of his victims.. all of them screaming as he took their lives as the winter soldier. Imagine not wanting do any of this, and living with having done that. 😢😢😢
Captain america save both tony & bucky. One from being murdered & one from being murderer.
Great reaction. For me, this movie was the point where the MCU just took off like crazy. Every movie after this just kept getting better and better.
In this one, you see how both Tony Stark and Steve Rodgers change. In the past, Tony was brash and took all kinds of crazy chances. Steve on the other hand, was a consummate soldier, always following orders. In this movie we see how they have both gone to the other end of the spectrum. In fact with Tony, you see it at the beginning of the movie - he's talking to some college students and he's reading off a teleprompter. He would have never done that before. Steve, in contrast, now becomes a "criminal."
Great movie. Definitely one of favorite MCU movies.
yeah in a small way they switched roles! kinda crazy. thanks for watching 😊
This is definitely in my top 5 favorite MCU movies!! I'm really enjoying watching your journey's through the MCU.
thank you so much we appreciate you 😊
"cause bucky was in romania looking at fruit" 😭😭😭😭😭
lol you know 😂
@7:05 That’s actually what Robert Downey, Jr. looked like in 1991. The de-aging was pretty good in this one.
Jumped Tony???
Tony swung on both of them first.
If I slapped 2 guys in the face, I didn't get jumped, I started a fight with 2 guys.
39:19 😂😂😂 “shoulder pads & a helmet” 😂😂😂
This is one of the best to come out of the MCU and as messed up as things get, Team Cap 🤘🏽
Team iron man
I love how it seems like after every movie you say this is your favorite movie. That is the impact of the Marvel franchise. There is always something new around the corner. I am watching your MCU reactions in a long marathon. That's why I noticed your loving every film.
yeah you’re not wrong they one up each other constantly !!
Hey hey Octobers,
So glad you guys liked this movie... it's such a good addition to the MCU....so many cool things came out of this.
Fun fact: At 36:00 where Tony asks Peter to move his leg, that was completely unscripted - Tom Holland actually forgot he was supposed to move over in the scene, so Robert Downey added that in to remind him.... very clever. I love it when they leave that stuff un. :)
And where you're pointing out that Vision might be becoming more human, especially with Wanda, I think what's happening is, because Vision and Wanda are both linked through the Mind Stone (Wanda got her powers from the Mind Stone), that this is part of what links them together and it gives them extra connection with each other, so it helps Vision understand people better, through that connection. (This is my theory based on these movies PLUS future movies you guys will see later like Infinity War)
Mrs October, I am absolutely loving your powers of perception here and the way you call out various plot points long before they happen. Like you said that Zemo is most likely framing Bucky for that explosion which kicked this off... that was spot on! Nice one! :)
Also, I'm sitting on the fence and not picking one side 100%..... It was just good to see them fight each other and see them hash out this conflict.
Zemo does come back again in The Falcon and Winter Soldier TV series on DisneyPlus.... really hope you're watching that series too! :)
Anyway, hope you guys are good. Can't wait for next one :)
Ross showed a lot of footage, but he overlooked Thor’s fight with Malekith in London, Hulk vs Hulkbuster in Johannesburg, and the Avengers vs Ultron and his sentries in Seoul.
Steve and Tony swapped ideologies. After what happened with S.H.I.E.L.D. in the present, he knows better than to trust the powers in charge.
As for Tony, he always did what he wanted and refused to listen when people tried to dissuade from going overboard. He’s late but he’s finally starting to take accountability and wants to able to continue as Iron Man.
Vision delivered a good argument without being hypocritical. He literally knows his own strength. To ordinary people, he’s basically god-level like Thor.
For Sam and Rhodey, they didn’t have much of a choice. Even if they did, they were still gonna side with their respective best friends - and not just because of their friendships with them. Rhodey, for instance, is still an active member of the American military whereas Sam has seen the things that Steve saw during the HYDRA uprising.
The language T’Chaka spoke is Xhosa. It’s widely spoken in South Africa which is where his actor John Kani is from.
Zemo’s actor Daniel Brühl grew up speaking German through his father. He also learned Spanish and Catalan from his mother. Daniel reprised his role as Zemo for the German dub.
Sebastian Stan is good at speaking Romanian because he grew up in Constanța, and unless I’m mistaken he did his own motorbike stunt.
The elite death squad included some of the actors’ stunt doubles at the time.
In a deleted scene when Clint and Nat were fighting:
Nat: Don’t you think Laura would be disappointed?
Clint: Who, in me or you?
In another deleted scene, Nat watches the fight in horror after recovering from Wanda’s attack. While evading War Machine, Cap loses his shield. Bucky grabs it and throws it to War Machine. It bounces off of him and Falcon throws it back to Cap.
Cap: Nice save.
Bucky: I gotta get me one of those.
What’s most interesting about Zemo is that he messed with the Avengers without laying a finger with them. CinemaWins goes into further detail as to how and why his plan worked.
In the Latin Spanish dub, when Tony grabs Bucky in the silo, the dialogue gets changed a bit but holds the same meaning:
Tony: Do you at least remember my parents?
Bucky: I carry them in my mind, too!
I also think that Nat and Sam knew about it as well. Nat was with Steve when Zola showed them the article. She also dug up some info on Bucky which might have included some info about that night. And of course, Sam would help Steve look for him.
“Tony Stank” is still my favorite Stan Lee cameo in terms of comedy. Also, you know it’s a cool scene when you put three legends in the same room.
You gotta think, if Steve didn’t intervene, iron man would probably have killed Bucky. Also, black widow gave Steve buckys file at the end of winter soldier. He knew what happened from reading that file, but would it have solved anything to give that info to Tony? Like cap said, he wasn’t in control. It would only have sent tony into a rage trying to find and kill Bucky.
RIP Chadwick Boseman, Stan Lee, and William Hurt.
Easter Egg: The directors confirmed that back in Iron Man 2, the little boy at the Stark Expo that was wearing an Iron Man mask was a young Peter Parker/Spider-Man. 👍🏼
Also, Rumlow’s comic book villain name is “Crossbones”.
Even in real Life, A man who lost everything is a dangerous villain... I feel the pain of zemo..
1:30: “Kool Aid packets”😂😂😂😂. I laughed way too hard at that. Like Imagine that being the secret serum lolol.
right how hilarious would that be
Team Cap vs Team Stark is surprisingly close to 50/50.
Team Cap is "take a stand, do what's right"
Team Stark is "follow the rules, except when you don't"
Both make sense. ...I'm with Cap.
Btw, Zemo wasn't some random, poor sappy soul. He has "old money" as in, limitless wealth, billions, has a Title "Baron Zemo the 13th", and is a criminal underworld boss (on the level of Kingpin in NY). Not done with him. Stay tuned.
53:51 That's the second time he refers to Tony as Cap lol
You didn't realise the main thing, (IRON MAN 2) Tony Stark, the guy who began a nascisist, didn't care about others and would never let the govenment take his freedom, (CAPTAIN AMERICA 1) and Steve Rogers, the man who would let him serve as a experiment, and follow almost every higher order for him to be able to protect his country. Now they changed sides.
10:34 In the comics, Wanda and Vision were a great couple for years. That said in the comics he was much more life like. Instead being made of Vibranium he was made of synthetic living tissue.
Lore? What's that? :P
“Okay, Russo Brothers with the action.”, she says before the airport scene.
lol
Captain America 🐐
“I’m gonna sit here so you move the leg” was improvised by RDJ because Tom forgot to move his leg in the scene. 😂
So excited for this one!!
i love your faces in the thumbail so funny😂😂😂
appreciate that lol
RIP CHADWICK
It's fun going along with you guys in this journey
By the way when when the separated Her arms she was separating his molecules and when she brought them together she condensed him which is why he fell through all the floors in essence he became heavier
Gosh finally! I’ve been waiting lol 😂 I just love you guys so much! ❤❤
we love you too!
Let's goooo. The movie was great. Nice, I'm from Norcross GA. Team Cap!
Lawrenceville Here 😊
I just want to point out that Ross's little presentation on why the Avengers are dangerous is absurd. The Avengers stopped an alien invasion, while the US government's plan was to... nuke New York City. That might not have even worked!
The helicarriers were a SHIELD/Hydra issue, not an Avengers issue. If Cap hadn't intervened, a ton of people in the area were about to be assassinated all at once.
While Ultron was, in fact an Avengers creation, it was a private project that wasn't meant to leave the building and was entirely incomplete. The Avengers stopped Ultron from wiping out humanity _and_ saved most of the people in the city.
The only problematic one was Wanda accidentally causing more deaths than she stopped by hitting a building with the explosion. That one, I could see being a mission that the Avengers should've had permission for.
Yessss. I was so readyyy for thisss❤❤❤Gonna watch it rigth now. Hope u guys are ok🎉🎉🎉🇵🇷
we are all good! sorry about the delay ❤️
Love your content! best part of my aftenoon... thank you for being so genuine!
thank you so much for being kind! we appreciate you!
I really like how you guys react to every important line, so many reactors leave out the best parts, you guys rock!
thank you so do you! 😌
Let’s do this 💪🏻
Enjoy!
Tony was a victim of his own guilt - and he allowed himself to be manipulated by that woman in the corridor. He shouldn't have.
the older i get the more i understand secretary ross(to a degree) motives for the sokovia accords.
Secretary Ross? You mean the guy that wanted to hunt down Hulk and weaponize him?
Ye I couldn’t wait great reaction
9:51 fun fact wakanda accent was going to be British. But the smart people or the activists saved that mistake from happening unlike the justice league decision
8:21 it wasn't clear if Gwyneth was returning as pepper
as kid back in 1975 , 8 yo, Capt. America was by far my favorite. Him and the lone ranger ( basss reeves folks!)
I even got an autograph from one of the artist . great movie!
19:17 in the comics Sharon and Steve have been an on and off couple for years. Steve had a relationship with Peggy in World War II. But she was gone by the time Cap came out of the ice.
As a premier Shield Agent, Sharon is allowed to wear her own custom SHIELD battle suit. Where most SHIELD agents wear a Black jumpsuit, Sharon always wears a white one.
In the storyline that reintroduced Bucky as the Winter Soldier, Steve and Sharon were on a solo mission to find him on their own. When they weren’t in action…these two were in action. 🤣😂
The artist drew them undressing or getting out of bed so often I was like, I get it they are boinking. Sheesh!!
You guys are so chill...I dig that
52:49 the “bit of green” in Caps eyes is important. When the original writers conceived Captain America he was supposed to be this perfect, ripped, tall, blonde haired, blue eyed, American Patriot fighting the Nazis. But look at that description. That’s how you describe the “perfect” German Aryan. Cap was supposed to be the perfect physical example of a German Aryan and then fight against the Nazi Reich.
RIP Chadwick Boseman. His the Chad and the Boss. and yes he died of battling stage 4 colon cancer about 4 years.
Wow I loved both of you're opinions!
“let’s go wanda” as she blows up a few floors😂😂that had me laughing
the “I remember all of them” isn’t really a diss, it’s more so that bucky just remembers and he hates himself for it, that’s why earlier he said “I don’t know if all this is worth it for me” and when cap said. but you had no control then bucky said “I still did it” he was aware what he was doing but also yk under the shit hyrda gave him
@Barcelona_JAT yeah that is true, poor dude
Yassss!!!! The moment I have been waiting for!!
❤❤ 1st off glad you guys are back and safe! I’m so looking forward when you guys get to Infinity War and End Game.
us tooooo!!
Been waiting for this 😍😍😍😍...
Great reaction! Glad you enjoyed it!🫡
it was so good!
Um... Iron Man broke the rules that he signed. He even said "Don't tell Ross or I'll have to arrest myself."
In addition... I think Tony was trying to tell Steve that he would fix it so that they could continue to do what they wanted anyway despite having the accords. So because of that the straight up answer would be that Cap is right. Cap is kinda not compromising ... similar to advice from Peggy Carter.
Before the movie started my boy said “who you know on here” 😂😂 my boy needed answers 😂😂
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Wellp... Next movie's one of my favourites, so can't wait :D
15:41 The thing i love about Capt. America Civil War is that both side have a point. there's no wrong answer. gaining one means loosing the other. but is it beneficial to whom? obviously to the one who chooses whichever that benefits them due to circumstance. But this what entice conflict and with conflict... well I'm gonna stop now. but i like this writings. it reminds me of an anime call Code Geass: Lelouch of the rebellion.
22:51 The marvel daredevil netflix show was garnering praise for its action especially in the hallways. And this scene during this era felt a very specific answer to that praise.
17:34..I'm with Cap on his one..If I'm a superhero, NO way I'm signing...Theyd have you killing people whose only crime is thiey're in the way of someone's corporate progress or protecting some dirty politician by "elimination" .23"37-RIP to Boseman.. Seen him play James Brown/Jackie Robinson /Martin Luthur King with total realism..Denzel Washington said at his funeral, "He was as good as me, and on his way to being even better" Black Panther 1st appeared in Fantastic 4 comics, late 60's. 37:02..No limit to Wanda's power..She can alternate reality any way she wants.
Nah either way i don’t think tony would have won, because he wasn’t thinking when he was fighting and cap was fighting strategically
HELL YEAH! Always looking forward to both ur MCU & Scream reactions. Y'all are my new fav react channel
seriously we appreciate that!! thanks for watching 😊
The one thing that took me out of this is no one dies and a couple should have, after all, it's called Civil War. Wanda's powers likely come at least in part from the Mind Stone inside of Loki's scepter, Wanda's abilities include telekinesis, energy manipulation, and some form of neuroelectric interfacing that allows her to both read thoughts and also give her targets waking nightmares. Scarlet Witch can rewrite reality and make her a threat to the entire multiverse. In the comics, she was classed as an Omega Level Mutant, the same as Jean Grey and Prof-X.
I'm glad you too enjoyed Civil War the shot of Tony and Cap facing off with one another is a scene straight out of the comic books. Well, I think I know what movie is next on your list and remember to keep an open mind about your next and " Forget everything you think you know"
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5:38 The guy being shown at this point also played Thanos using prosthetic makeup in the post credits scene of the first Avengers.
oh wow love that thanks for sharing
30:17 Zemo is MK Ultra-ing Bucky.
Definitely worth the wait💪🏼💪🏼 man you guys are moving pretty fast with this! Next one up is Dr. Strange. I know for a fact you’ll love him. The Russo brothers did such an amazing job with this film, the come back for infinity war and endgame. Bring your tissues for those last 2 avengers movies! Much love guys
Cool thing about this movie behind the scenes, a lot of it was shot in my school.
wow that’s very cool actually
@@TheOctobersReact to be honest, a lot of the marvel movies were shot on my school's grounds. In this one, one of the fight scenes was shot in our student center in front of our coffee shop. They also did other scenes in the same building and in the area surrounding it in other movies.
You both are awesome!
This movie is a beast, great action scenes after action scenes and awesome reaction.
thank you we appreciate you 😊
In the comics Redwing is an actual bird rather than an A.I. controlled drone. 😅
Wanda utilizes chaos magic. When John Byrne was writing the West Coast Avengers he tweaked her powers from being random curses to probability alteration. In other words she could change even the most improbable of events to becoming a certainty. Such as causing a landslide to bury someone in rubble. Chaos magic by its nature is unpredictable. But like all power it has its cost. In the MCU Wanda can get inside someone's head telepathically and bring their greatest fears to life or she can move objects with her mind similar to telekinesis. This is due to the experiments with the Mind Stone, now in Vision's head. 😅
Team Cap for sure. In this case Tony is wrong... surrendering your freedoms to the government always ends badly. That is how Republics become dictatorships. 😢
In the comics Ant-Man also had an alternate identity of Giant Man due to the use of the Pym particles to shrink and grow. But going big uses up a lot of endurance plus difficulty breathing due to the change in size. 😅
I think the orange slices was a soccer joke. After a tough half or match the soccer moms would provide orange slices to rejuvenate the kids. Lol 🤣
Wanda: you are pulling your punches
Hawk: what! You want me to kill her!!!???
10:40 do you guys remember Thunderbolt Ross from The Incredible Hulk a.k.a. Betty's dad, the general who was chasing Bruce , he's now the secretary of state here
This is how awesome Iron Man really is - in a stand up fight he literally whipped Cap AND Winter Soldier. Cap only beat him because Tony let up on them.
Gonna have to disagree with you on this.. Tony was blinded by rage and trying to KILL Bucky. Steve and Bucky were not trying to kill Tony, just trying to slow him down. Once the power to the Iron Man suit was disabled, Tony had nothing.
Gr8 reactions & insights guys, your just in the half of this Amazing Avengers Journey, brace your selves cuz it's abt 2 blow u both away! Especially Infinity War & End Game, it's gonna be a blast! Hope you have a strong couch!!!! Godbless u both & family....