I installed a Chinese diesel heater in my converted shuttle bus. We used it on a recent outing and ran it for 14 hours on a lower setting, around 2.2 hertz pump speed, and used around 5 liters of fuel. It was quiet and warm all evening and night. I like the fact that I didn't have to cut a hole in my ceiling. I built a steel container to put the tank in and mounted it on the back of the bus. There is no diesel smell inside and the exhaust doesn't even smell like a diesel truck. I am happy so far.
I installed a Chinese diesel heater last February in my trailer and I love it.as you mentioned it’s installed inside a cabinet beneath my cooktop. The thing I really like is that it has a small remote key fob. I have it next to the bed and can turn on the heater about 20 minutes before I get up and by the time I get up the trailer is starting to get warm. The thing I don’t like is the fuel pump sounds like a dripping faucet. If I had it to do over I would have installed the pump outside, under the floor. I really enjoy your videos. Keep um coming!
Great video. I live at 9600 ft elevation and just had a 20,000 btu suburban RV furnace installed in my 6x12 toy hauler conversion. I purchased the quiet model, works amazing. I already had 12 volt and propane in my rig. Now I can stay up high and work in the ski resort towns of Colorado in comfort.
Bought a Nu Way (on your recommendation) for my 6×12 cargo trailer/portable hunting shack. Used it deer hunting this year in Wisconsin. Worked great, toasty warm and sipped propane (one 20lb tank for the whole hunt). Thanks for putting me on to it!
@@Efntodd 6 days for a 20lb tank. Outside temp was 20-30F. I did have to switch over. Was nice to have the spare right next to the other. Only took a couple of minutes to switch over. Having the trailer well insulated made the difference.
I heat my 8x16 gypsy wagon with a beautiful antique oil lamp. I use smokeless, odorless lamp oil instead of kerosene. The lovely golden light adds real ambiance.
@@nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993 wow! Didn't know anyone could join my channel, or even want to. I don't have any content and don't know how all that works anyway. I would be pleased to answer any questions you might have.
@@000one Ner Mitzvah is the oil I use. You can get it at any walmart. I don't know how to upload a photo, but any kerosene lamp will work. They all operate the same. A camp lantern works well also. Any lamp designed to burn kerosene is fine. I have several, but the one I use most is a brass lamp that hangs on the wall. Just be sure to keep anything flammable away from the lamp.
Great explanation as usual. I really appreciate your explaining the air inlet for the burner. I do use a Mr. Heater in my 12' Shasta and it has been totally satisfactory for me. I keep the roof vent cracked as well as a window cracked. I have not had the condensation problem, perhaps because I am in very dry climates. But, as you have explained these independent of electricity units are critical for boondocking.
Another good video, and well done. I use a mini wood burner in my 7x14x 7 Cargo trailer that is well insulated. Has a nice window if you like seeing the flame like I do. It will make more heat than I need. The only drawback is it needs to be loaded in 4 hours or it burns out. It’s no problem as I get up aleast once a night to use the bathroom. I use a buddy heater for in the morning if needed till I fire up the wood stove. The other advantage is that you can cook or at least boil water or perk a great cup of morning roasted coffee on it. I always want a backup heat source in freezing and below weather. Also I have a small battery operated chainsaw. The wood fuel is free. thanks again for sharing.
It's hard to beat wood heat. We have a large ammo can woodstove that we use sometimes. The new battery chainsaws are pretty slick! I need to get one too.
If you have a decent sized RV you can easily use a small wood-stove ...we kept toasty warm in our School Bus in 32 degree below temps up in Alaska ... in our 24 ft. trailer we use a wall-mounted catalytic Olympian propane non-vented heater which works great , doesn't produce lots of moisture and never set off our CO2 detector.
Great info 👍 Diesel stink is the main reason I will not get the diesel heater. It is probably easier to remove skunk spray😂 Nu-way is interesting. So simple of a build. Cheers
I've been inspired. Gonna build my own camper, and roam around Norway where i have lived since childhood. I've been a Jack of all trade, built Oil platforms(The concrete ones) every kind of constructon work, crane operating and so on. IT left me with a small pention, so I enjoy Your kind of doing things, has me going now. Thank You, friend. Stan
The vented look great and probably are fantastic heat, but size and space are such an issue in our van that the Wave 3 is perfect. It doesn’t create lots of moisture due to the catalytic burner, and what little moisture there is actually makes the van warmer. We are always in a dry climate also. Cooking in the van creates much more moisture for us. We also like the fact that we can stored the Wave 3 in the summer! No holes no electricity use (why we didn’t like the diesel heaters either-and the noise:) The wave 3 can be left on all night on low, sips propane…perfect. We always have windows and vents open 24/7. Great review! 🎉
I’ve seen quite a few people install everything that involves the diesel outside of the living space and then ducting the heat into the living space. Mainly building an enclosed metal box out on the tongue.
The diesel heater also has a fuel pump that clicks as it pumps. But it's not that loud. They are designed for gang trucks in the North at logging camps and other work places in the North.
Thanks so much for putting this video together! I’be been looking for a cost effective way to heat my van without causing internal moisture issues. I think you’ve helped me figure this part out!
I spent six years smelling like JP-5; don't need those memories stirred. I'll probably use a vented propane heater, if I need to. Thanks for the thoughts to consider.
You're welcome Jon. I just found a way to install TWO 20lb propane bottles on the front of the little trailer and still have room for the tongue jack. I got tired of worrying about running out in the middle of nowhere! Video soon.
Looking into a propex heater. Burns propane, vented outside, zero moisture inside, thermostat controlled, mounted in a cabinet or they even have 1 you can mount under the floor. If you use the optional acoustic duct, it very quiet. It's just as convenient as an rv furnace but without the moisture.
We sure do appreciate our Nuway for our 7x14. I think ours is the next size up and with a small battery fan hanging from the ceiling, we go from too cold to get out of bed to get the heck out of the trailer in about 30 minutes lol. I also love that they're made in the USA.
Your previous video of heating your cargo trailer with the NuWay heater is the very reason I put the same model 2000 in our 6x12! I did use a sidewall vent for a wood pellet stove rather than going through the roof, however, and it's worked out well so far. (About two years) Always enjoy your videos! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!
I opted to build my own heater for our Sprinter van. It runs off a two burner methylated spirit stove to heat a large bar of copper mounted with finned alloy heatsinks installed inside a steel tube, which is fitted with a small 12 volt PC fan at one end. It only take minutes to heat the van and the fuel is non toxic, it does consume the oxygen, so I leave a window slightly open to avoid asphyxiation.
Great video. I’ve often dreamed of having a tiny wood burning stove in my Ram Promaster but it’s just not an efficient choice for me. I went with the Wave 3 and I’ve enjoyed that for 3 years but I would prefer the marine option you mentioned to take away any moisture issues. Thanks for another informative video. You always give me something to consider/think about.
Great Timing .... I just installed a 5K large unit about 3 weeks ago .... works great ....1. first thing I did was add a Deep Cycle Battery now run with two also upgraded my Solar added a 100 Watt Panel ... important to have enough reserve to fire Glow Plug at Start Up and run the fan at cool down once the unit is running it fires on it's own heat so power draw is only from the Fan .... if you run the battery completely down the Fan will not run at Shutdown which cools down the unit for about 5 minutes ... if not enough power to run the fan at Cool Down you will burn up the electronic control module inside the unit .... 2. Installed Tank and Fuel Pump inside my external Aluminum Tool Box mounted on the Trailer Tongue .. no noise from pump inside trailer and no fuel smell ... also mounted pump by hanging it not fixing to box so very little mechanical resonance noise transfered through to structure ... 3. Purchased the large 5K Unit not the smaller to 2K .. it will burn more diesel while running but will run less also according what I seen on UA-cam the fan is quieter in the 5K because it's larger and has larger bearings and larger fan blades. 4. Because I insulated the floor which now has Plywood, 2 inches of Styrofoam and Plywood on top again I Flanged the exhaust with sheet metal with an extra inch of clearance and wrapped the exhaust pipe with Fibreglass Automotive Header Wrap for about 2 feet where it's closest to the burn unit ... tested it without wrap with laser thermometer and it's 300 Degrees and about 170 Degrees with Wrap ... not worried about burning up the floor now. 5. Went into the Advanced Settings of the external control unit and lowered the maximum Hrtz Cycle of the Fuel Pump Slightly so it will run a little less hot on high at start up ... also lowered the maximum RPM of Fan to 4500 from 5500 which makes less noise and apparently increases the life expectancy of the Fan ... I still have a propane heater which I can run if I'm charging the batteries .. diesel heater will take out any moisture from propane if run I run it mostly after dark ... I personally like the Diesel because it's so much cheaper and easy to buy ....
Two years using China Diesel Heater, dry heat, no smell at all, very efficient with fuel and electric, can be used to warm food, warm shower water as a backup. I installed two in my bus, another as back up for parts- total cost $450. Took 3 hours to install each. I hated the propane - have had RV ducted- awful waste of gas and electric, have used Mr Buddy - mildew, sweat, humidity, rots/stains wood-fabric on windows did I mention MILDEW? misery. To each their own.
All good information! I totally agree with you about the dry heat and I'm looking into getting a stove like yours. On a side note.. some questions relating to fuel & mileage about your rig and trailer. I know that everyone has their own variables but if you don't mind, I'd like to hear about yours. 1) Do you carry extra fuel (gasoline)? 2) If so.. how many gallons? 3) Is it just for the atv or for your tow rig too? 4) Do you have a spare tank on your vehicle? 5) Do you carry separate gas cans? 6) Where do you carry them (in the vehicle or trailer, or strapped outside)? 7) How do you go about planning your fuel stops on your planned route? This subject might make for an interesting video maybe...? :-) I really enjoy the channel and thanks for the video...
With our 2002 Yukon and it's 5.3L engine we get about 13mpg towing. We don't carry spare fuel and usually tank up when it gets down to about half full. Some places out west you have to be careful because of the distance between towns.
Nice heater summary. I'm waiting for my dickinson Newport 12000 to arrive! Besides looking really nice, the dickinsons come with a small 12v fan integrated (0.17A), and they're direct vented so no need to let the chill in with a cracked window. You're right they a little abusive to the wallet, but on balance for my application, they're a great option!
Parents were permanent RV'ers x last 15 years of their lives. They lived in a 34' 5th wheel, so insulation was decent. They didn't stay North in the winter, traveled to Texas for Thanksgiving with the same crowd each year. What my dad used for supplemental heat when it got below 60 degrees, (They started moving South from Mid Coast Maine around Labor Day) was a toaster oven, they have a small heating unit and a thermostat, so cost wise he thought it was perfect. He said he replaced it about once every 5 -8 years. He also thought it was cheaper than running the propane furnace.
Well Howdy There. Good to see another Vid. Had a Sneaking Hunch a Snowman gave you all a Visit. Me Too, I Love the Cold and Snow, as long as there is ZERO WIND and a Great Heater. But the Warmth of the Desert Wins Out Every Time. The Holiday Season is Still going on. The Spirit is Alive, And New Years will be Very Interesting with So Much Anticipation. 🤔 X-Mass came early as my new Rig Arrived a month early. Cool. Now I start the Build. I'm Excited, and I have a Ton of Fantastic Tutorials from some Nice Couple up in Montana. That is going to help. I listened Very Closely regarding the Heater Debate. However I Did go with the Mini Fireplace. I can cook on it aswell. And it will work just fine with my Insomnia Having to get up every 2-1/2 Hours Thereabouts. I'm a Happy Camper, Literally 🤠 ✌Maybe, I Just Might Scoot on Down to the Festival, Not Sure Yet. Either Way, You All STAY WARM & DRY. HAPPY NEW🥳 YEAR, And May God Bless 🙏🤲 (shoot me one on FB if you wish. THX)
@@gonagain Thank You. The 'Build' is going to be Fun. I'm starting a Journal: (How to put 1000-Items Including a 170lbs. Beast Into a 12x7' Shoebox And Live Inside) 'OH BOY'😯
I have a Chinese diesel heater, and a propane wave three...I like the diesel heater, it's fresh air, heated, it circulates and prevents mold or condensation...They are cheap, and sip fuel slowly and use very little electricity...If you get 2 winters out of one, it ends up costing nothing, even one year really...And there is literally no chance of explosion, as diesel is hard to ignite...Having some basic "know how" when it comes to installation, and what hardware to use, and what you should replace, out of the box, is helpful...Replacing the fuel line they provide with a higher quality one is advised, same with the hose clamps, and any hardware exposed to the elements, which is very cheap and easy to do....I have had two diesel heaters, the first one I used for two years, it still works, but it had a plastic case, that vibrated, and I replaced it with one that has a metal case, I found on e-bay...Both cost in the neighborhood of $150....I still use the first one in my camp sometimes..I like the wave 3 also, but the diesel provides a better more comfortable heat, it's like a forced air furnace at home, in a tiny cheap package...It takes very little electricity to run.....I like the looks of the vented propane stove, but have no experience with them...I didn't even know the existed when I got my first diesel heater and wave 3 ...If I had known, I would have considered it, for sure...The air circulation and dry heat of a diesel heater is hard to beat in my opinion...I also have a buddy propane heater, I use it outside sometimes....
Too funny Rick We were just discussing this on the phone and look what popped up in my YT feed! That's kinda scary when you think about it. Your trailer has come a long way since this video was made. JT
Has anyone ever told you, you look exactly like Harrison Ford from the Indiana Jones Series? Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you and your wife! Amazing!
I like your propane heater, but I am wondering about the chimney - do u have any problems with rain getting inside when going down the road before using? If so, what do u cover the top ports with?
I don't have any problem with rain while driving. There are probably other ways to do this, but here's a video on how I built the roof cap: ua-cam.com/video/tc-wbQRmQhM/v-deo.html
We use a 9000BTU Minisplit for a 7x14 cargo trailer with 1" insulation. Needs about 6kwh (500ah@12v) for 24hrs at 70F in 35F low 45F hi outside weather.
_Aloha; I've had my diesel heater going on the third season now. No problems, most problems people have are because of installing them incorrectly. I have a 5Kw for my 24 foot cargo trailer; all the fuel lines and tank is outside and runs underneath the trailer; I'm with you about the smell of diesel. Power is drawn at startup about 8 to 10.5 Ah's, and depending on what temperature you are running, then the draw of power is around .5 to 3.8 Ah's during the heating cycle. Once temp is reached, it drops down to the .5 to .8 Ah's. The pump has a ticking sound, and the sound does travel through the line too. I install them for people and have helped many out there, plus John Mc47 is the man on these things too! I have done all kinds of tests with these heaters to figure out how to keep the ticking noise down to a bare minimum. I am starting to runs some other tests with peristaltic pumps, but way too soon to talk about using them is just working out the how and amount for delivery of fuel. All and all, I love them, and if you or anyone else has questions, be free to ask me._
If we're on electricity, we just use a space heater. When we aren't on electricity we rely on the buddy heater. We do get some condensation, but seems it's always been pretty much isolated to the windows. We do leave the windows cracked when it's in use. One for peace of mind of safety concerns, regardless of what people say about using them with no air vent. And two because it will roast us out of the camper. Even with the windows open, we still end up having to turn it off after an hour or so because we're melting. And maybe not running it for hours and hours is why we don't get a lot of condensation. Not sure. Just know it's worked for us so far. Though I'd love to have one of those you have. Think that's an awesome way to heat the camper. We'll be heading to Arizona in a couple weeks. But we'll only be there for a week to hang out with some friends and meet up with some other yt channels. Maybe we'll see you there.
I like the Platinum Cat, vented catalytic heater. CO safe. For now, I put up with my truck camper furnace which does a good job but loves batteries. I am looking at the possibility of in floor heating with a Truema or similar burner. There are also Webasto block heaters for semi trucks which can heat the camper and if wanted the truck and engine. Connect truck and camper with quick release connectors. I've camped in sub zero before where there is a 30 degree difference in temperature from the floor to the counter top. Explains why I get cold feet camping. You kidz take care and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family.
You've got some great ideas! One thing I know is that if you install floor heat you don't have to heat the water up very hot to maintain a constant warm temperature. Once it's heated inside you can turn the heat way down.
Now, if that door had a glass window and that gas burner went side to side instead of front to back, a grate above the burner with some of those fake coals (they glow red but don't burn when heated) the ones for open flame coal effect gas fires; you'd have something that resembles a glass fronted coal fired stove...a modification that would most likely be easy to do. I have a cosy cabin heater to fit in my 9x5 insulated hard sides/roof fold up caravan/trailer, the one with the 1" flew in your video 👍 I have an eberspacher in my campervan and it's great for fast heat, it uses too much precious amps from my battery though for long continuous use. I use a butane heater during the day with vents open and the eberspacher at night while sleeping when it's really cold or just turn it on if or when I wake up cold.
Great video! I never realized that the Mr Heater propane heaters put moisture in the air. I live in the desert (Las Vegas) so maybe it's not so noticeable here. Since you're going to Arizona, just in case you don't have enough things to spend money on (ha ha) there's an informal ham radio convention called QuartzFest on BLM land just south of Quartzsite. It's seven days and instead of sessions in conference rooms we have presentation areas set up. This year it's going to be different and they're calling it Quartz-Pause. Not sure if I'm going this year yet. Radio could work nicely in your travels around the country! 73, from KC7ZDM! Merry Christmas, and may the new year be a darn sight better than the old one!
I'll be installing one in a step van conversion and tap into the van's fuel tank. Also, the heater will be located in my garage space and just duct the supply and return into the van. this should keep the sound and any fumes out of my living space. I think it should work well for me.
My future off-road trailer 12 x 6 on drawing board with 3 axis coupler, with axle-less suspension will be with two heating modes , a 2 kw Chinese diesel heater and a cub mini wood stove ....
Sounds like a good plan Dany. When your camped for a longer period of time you can use the wood stove and when you're on the move you can use the diesel. I say that because the problem we had with a wood heater was what to do with the live embers when it was time to roll!
One thing I know is, according to statistics, A 12,000BTU stove, on high, will last about 36 hours on a full 20lb tank. I never get mine over a medium setting.
This video is so educational for me! I'm comparing different propane heaters and haven't experienced this one yet... we've had a typical RV forced air heater and a Wave 3, and then there's our propane cook stove which does heat up our camper when in use. I wonder if someone could rig up a heater similar to this one just using their camper propane stove? That is if you have a overhead vent? I imagine the surrounding materials get really hot though. "Cheap RV Living" has his propane stove video... care to comment? I still get confused about why the Wave 3 results in more condensation. They're all burning propane. We like our Wave 3 for the most part but it's tricky getting the perfect window opening size and staying warm when it's really cold out. And we bring a extra towel dedicated to wiping down the condensation every morning...
Bob Wells is living in the dry desert so the moisture doesn't affect him very much. It's when you get into areas of higher humidity that it creates a big problem. I'm sure that a person could build a stovetop heater that would work pretty well of you can get it vented properly. If you do that I want to see how it comes out.
I have a Chinese diesel heater in my van. Very happy so far. Floor mounted vented through the floor. Pump and filter outside. Fuel tank inside by the sliding door to make it easy to fill. I was worried about the smell also. Was around sailboats. But my last boat had an old Gasoline Atomic Four.
My first boat had an Atomic Four and it almost never ran. Got me into trouble on more than one occasion before it died once and for all! I was a lot younger and dumber back then.
Sorry to see the NuWay stoves are no longer available. After planning one in my cargo trailer build for several years I finely ordered one in January of this year, 2023. After waiting six months and twenty attempts to contact the company I had to do a chargeback on my card to get my money back. I will have to keep looking a similar affordable propane heat source.
That's unfortunate, perhaps you can find one on Ebay. There are quite a few listed there now. Sorry you had to go through all of that with the company.
Not sure if anyone already mentioned, but I just purchased a webasto GAS/petro heater. Same as the diesel heaters except it runs on gas. I too did not want diesel for similar concerns, and did not want to have to carry another fuel type. I already have gas on hand for emergency fuel for my F350 and if I ever need to use my Honda generator. I’ll be installing it in a 7x19 cargo trailer I also just purchased. (Building out a NEO 7x19 HD Aluminum Cargo w/1200 watts solar, 600 AH Lithium BB)
@@gonagain Thanks, I owe a lot of know how to channels like yours, Tito, W, Prowse and more. I had thought I was already subscribed to yours but was not, I hit it today! Btw, I’m going to try your underneath outside floor insulation on my trailer. Thank you to you and your wife for all your great vids!
I like your heater and will be using one when I do my build in the spring. I have 2 questions about it. Does the flue pipe ever come loose going down washboard roads? And would one of the non electric heat activated fans for like an old pot belly stove work on it?
The stove top fans seem to work for others on these stoves. I intend to get one and try it. I have my flue pipe pop riveted together and it's never come apart.
Nice heater...if you have the room like you said... you could put a heat powered fan on top to help distribute the heat. I like the Marine Newport heaters, my top choice. We have a Propex heater built into our camper....we like it and it's super efficient dry heat. Wish we could get out camping and escape to the south.....to the north.....anywhere....our county got locked down (again) and 2 week camping trip canceled...employer is requiring 2 week quarantine before returning to work if you travel anywhere....wth? Merry Christmas! Stay safe and Happy Camping!
I see you have a stove pipe draft flapper just above the stove. What function does that serve and when do you use it? I have the exact Nu-Way stove in my GFC camper with the stove pipe running outside at a 45 degree angle about 5' so I do not get the lift you get with the taller, straight pipe. I do worry that in a strong side wind exhaust could blow back down the pipe and into the camper. Would a draft flapper help to prevent such blow back? Thank you. I watch all your videos. Linda is a comedian and a laugh minute!
Sorry for the late response. The damper located just above the stove is there to slow down the exhaust a little to hold the heat in the stove longer for better heating. I usually set mine at about 45 degrees. The damper is designed so that, even if you close it all the way, it can't stop the flow. It would help on a windy day to slow a backdraft. Nuway only requires about a 3 foot lift, so you should be fine,
They make one of these that is propane powered that's what I want to get I'm like you I hate the diesel smell the propane heater is set up the same way so you don't have all the negative moisture problems that you do with most propane heaters
I would think about putting that diesel fuel tank on the outside in cold cold weather. Diesel fuel tends to gel and if it gels, u are up a creek for getting any inside to your heater. Somewhere on the inside of the trailer where it can be kept warm, not hot, but warm enough not to gel would be a lot better.
Have you had any problems with propane being unable to flow at low temperatures? I'd love some tips on this if you have them. I've run into this with my propane system then switched to the diesel heater earlier this year. For myself I chose the diesel heater in part because I already have diesel available, my camper is in the back of my pickup and running a line wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be via the vent tube. It definitely smells outside the camper when it fires up, but as soon as its up to temperature it doesn't make any smell that I notice. If diesel is burning correctly this new low Sulphur diesel burns very cleanly. If I had to have an internally mounted tank, I'd strongly reconsider my choice unless it was a large sealed/externally vented unit. It's messy stuff when your pour and cleanup is indeed a nightmare. Since I start my diesel heater often before I stop the vehicle, the exhaust seems to keep the fuel tank warm enough to prevent gelling. You can buy expensive kerosene at Walmart, Home Depot, etc. It has basically no smell and if I had to use the internal tank in a pinch, I keep a gallon of that ready to go. As far as noise, once the camper and unit is up to temperature its pretty quiet. The fuel pump does make its little relay like noise, but I have sound deadened this and since its installed in a cabinet with air hoses coming out its not bad. I suspect that the fuel pump doesn't bother me because I have had Japanese Renai monitor heaters in a few of my homes. Run on fuel oil or diesel, whichever was cheaper. A lot of UA-cam videos show these heaters running full blast or not warmed up, if it sounded like that I wouldn't like it either. As for current, you bet it draws a fair bit. I have 400 watts worth of panels and this seems to be enough for it with moderate use. I can always go for a short drive and top off my secondary battery bank if needed, honestly it hasn't been a problem yet. Expect 10 amps draw for the first 10 minutes and about 2 amps after, probably less when I am not looking at it with a meter. I agree the controller units are unfriendly and vague, but this is mitigated by the remote control which is in simple english. (also how I turn on my heater before I stop). I'd love to add a second super small propane unit, sometimes I would like some extra moisture in the air. If you plumb the diesel heater properly and have the power for it, I think its a great option. I don't miss the hassles and expense of getting someone to fill my propane tanks. Just make sure I have fuel before I stop and its easy.
@@gonagain Good to know. Maybe something is wrong with my regulator, around 8 degrees it didn't want to stay lit. Keep up the awesome work and unique prospective!
What a great & informative vid. @Gonagain what is your thoughts on the Heat Powered Stove Fans? Any chance on doing a collaboration with a Fire Department or Forest Service on best Fire Extinguishers & Proper way to use them ? After watching Coyote Works jeeps incident it would be nice to see someone do a vid on what to do during a vehicle, trailer & ground fire from engine or brakes. THANK YOU for the great vids
Great vlog - I'm debating on getting a diesel heater for my teardrop- I like your choice but I don't have enough space for a unit like you have - right now I'm using a 12-volt electric blanket that keeps me warm - Have a Merry Christmas - Happy Holidays and stay safe
Hi Ken, if you read the comments here you'll find some great ideas to make those diesel heaters quieter and more efficient. Folks mostly seem to like them.
I use one in a teardrop and love it. get the 2K one as it is still to big for the space. If you use Kerosene you will not have the intense smell of diesel when refueling and be able to run it on low for longer time spans without any problems. As running on low for long spans will clod then up with unburn exhaust products.
Regarding the Nuway option, is the ceiling vent the only option or would it be OK to vent out the side of the trailer? I was really hoping to go the Nuway route but I'm reluctant to put a hole through the roof.
I have the same question, hoping to also get the Nu-way. I’m hoping I can maybe vent up and out the side near the top then maybe a removable vent stack.
@@Efntodd it’s coming but kind of slow, had to do some house projects first. I have a 6 x 12. Lots of decisions and thinking as I’m working. Fitting AC currently and I have a plan for the nu-way heater. When I get a little farther along I’ll post some pics in paramotor, toyhaulers etc FB page.
In my small trailer I have a 12 V heater I run it runs off the car battery while I’m traveling and when I park I have batteries in the trailer it well run all night with no problem if I want it if I’m traveling for two or three hours before I’m going the trailer is already nice and toasty and I don’t have to warm it up it does not take much to keep it warm after gets warm
Hello...!!! Merry Christmas...!! Can You Check the Label on Your 12 Volt Heater...Let Us Know the Name Brand, Model # , Or Where to Buy One...? Thanks , in Advance... BillinL.A. 12-25-20.
On full blast it will last 36 hours. That being said, it's never up that high and we would easily get a week or more on a 20lb. bottle running it in the mornings and evenings. Right now it's like 35degrees in the mornings and it's on a very low setting in our little cargo trailer.
I thought your stove was wood it looks nice. I thought propane heaters sat on floor.. I guess I don't know much?? But I've had wood & pellet stoves in my home & thought one in a cargo trailer would be nice. Ijust don't want moisture in.my trailer. Nice video thank you.
The propane heater is vented so we don't get the moisture from using it. We did have a woodstove at first but it didn't work out for being on the road.
Just looking through your old video's I wanted your thought on the vented propane heater you use. Do you smell propane like some of the small propane units that are not vented?
What type of cap do you have on the vent pipe that will keep rain from coming in when driving down the road? Love your sensible KISS videos. Keep it up.
Propane is far more dangerous than diesel. It's more expensive per BTU. The heater you demonstrated requires far more attention and takes way too much room. I installed a diesel heater in our cargo trailer ( 5'x10'x5.5' ) in the all-in-one configuration. Filling tank WAS a pain, and spillage was inevitable. In the third winter, the tank failed, spilling fuel inside the compartment. yuck. We have since placed a tank outside, and it's MUCH better. We put the heater on its own battery to ensure that the main battery is not depleted too much. We then trickle-charge the heater's battery. The diesel heater has its own remote control, and has operated pretty well. The ONLY noise is ticking from the pump, which annoys some people - but if you're in a cargo trailer, it's not like it's graveyard-quiet in the first place, particularly if you have a window-or-two cracked open. I think that's a nonsense argument. In -25F temperatures, the windows had to be opened because it got too warm inside. All that said, when this heater fails, I intend to replace it with a Planar, which is far more reliable and simple.
Is the diamond plate behind the stove aluminum? Whether aluminum or steel, it appears to be mounted directly to the wall without any air gap. Since we haven't seen an adventure titled "Our Trailer Wall Scorched," guessing that works just fine. :-)
@@gonagain Thanks for speedy reply! And BTW, your vent scoop idea for dust control really resonated with me. Thought about getting together with manufacturers to make ones like yours?
I installed a Chinese diesel heater in my converted shuttle bus. We used it on a recent outing and ran it for 14 hours on a lower setting, around 2.2 hertz pump speed, and used around 5 liters of fuel. It was quiet and warm all evening and night. I like the fact that I didn't have to cut a hole in my ceiling. I built a steel container to put the tank in and mounted it on the back of the bus. There is no diesel smell inside and the exhaust doesn't even smell like a diesel truck. I am happy so far.
That's good to know. Thanks for sharing!
I installed a Chinese diesel heater last February in my trailer and I love it.as you mentioned it’s installed inside a cabinet beneath my cooktop. The thing I really like is that it has a small remote key fob. I have it next to the bed and can turn on the heater about 20 minutes before I get up and by the time I get up the trailer is starting to get warm. The thing I don’t like is the fuel pump sounds like a dripping faucet. If I had it to do over I would have installed the pump outside, under the floor. I really enjoy your videos. Keep um coming!
Thanks for commenting Rex, that's the kind of info I was looking for.
Great video. I live at 9600 ft elevation and just had a 20,000 btu suburban RV furnace installed in my 6x12 toy hauler conversion. I purchased the quiet model, works amazing. I already had 12 volt and propane in my rig. Now I can stay up high and work in the ski resort towns of Colorado in comfort.
Way up there you need good heat!
Bought a Nu Way (on your recommendation) for my 6×12 cargo trailer/portable hunting shack. Used it deer hunting this year in Wisconsin. Worked great, toasty warm and sipped propane (one 20lb tank for the whole hunt). Thanks for putting me on to it!
Glad it worked out Jeffrey.
That's awesome it worked and was so fuel efficient.
20 lbs for 1 hunt?
How long was that over the course of days?
@@Efntodd 6 days for a 20lb tank. Outside temp was 20-30F. I did have to switch over. Was nice to have the spare right next to the other. Only took a couple of minutes to switch over. Having the trailer well insulated made the difference.
Me too
I heat my 8x16 gypsy wagon with a beautiful antique oil lamp. I use smokeless, odorless lamp oil instead of kerosene. The lovely golden light adds real ambiance.
Hi gail1984. Back in my hippie days we heated our small cabin with an Aladdin circular wick kerosene lamp. That thing really cranked out the heat!
Hi Gail, just joined your channel, so interested in your ligh/heating and a peek at your caravan xxxn
@@nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993 wow! Didn't know anyone could join my channel, or even want to. I don't have any content and don't know how all that works anyway. I would be pleased to answer any questions you might have.
Can you share a pic of The lamp and name of the oil you burn please?
@@000one Ner Mitzvah is the oil I use. You can get it at any walmart. I don't know how to upload a photo, but any kerosene lamp will work. They all operate the same. A camp lantern works well also. Any lamp designed to burn kerosene is fine. I have several, but the one I use most is a brass lamp that hangs on the wall. Just be sure to keep anything flammable away from the lamp.
I've watched so many videos re heating for my cargo trailer I've converted to a camper. Saw your vid and bought the nu way 2000 instantly. Thank you.
You won't regret buying that stove!
Great explanation as usual. I really appreciate your explaining the air inlet for the burner. I do use a Mr. Heater in my 12' Shasta and it has been totally satisfactory for me. I keep the roof vent cracked as well as a window cracked. I have not had the condensation problem, perhaps because I am in very dry climates. But, as you have explained these independent of electricity units are critical for boondocking.
Great explanation of the different heaters learned more about vented propane Merry Christmas! 👍
Another good video, and well done. I use a mini wood burner in my 7x14x 7 Cargo trailer that is well insulated. Has a nice window if you like seeing the flame like I do. It will make more heat than I need. The only drawback is it needs to be loaded in 4 hours or it burns out. It’s no problem as
I get up aleast once a night to use the bathroom. I use a buddy heater for in the morning if needed till I fire up the wood stove. The other advantage is that you can cook or at least boil water or perk a great cup of morning roasted coffee on it. I always want a backup heat source in freezing and below weather. Also I have a small battery operated chainsaw. The wood fuel is free. thanks again for sharing.
It's hard to beat wood heat. We have a large ammo can woodstove that we use sometimes. The new battery chainsaws are pretty slick! I need to get one too.
@@gonagain Yea, The last thing you want when harvesting a dead downed tree is a loud buzzing chainsaw to draw attention to you.
If you have a decent sized RV you can easily use a small wood-stove ...we kept toasty warm in our School Bus in 32 degree below temps up in Alaska ... in our 24 ft. trailer we use a wall-mounted catalytic Olympian propane non-vented heater which works great , doesn't produce lots of moisture and never set off our CO2 detector.
Merry Christmas!
FYI, I asked NuWay and you can vent the flue up then over and out the wall instead of the roof if you prefer!
Good info. Mine ended up this way because I started out with a woodburner and I needed more flue length.
Great info 👍
Diesel stink is the main reason I will not get the diesel heater. It is probably easier to remove skunk spray😂
Nu-way is interesting. So simple of a build.
Cheers
Your stove looks nice and simple.
I've been inspired. Gonna build my own camper, and roam around Norway where i have lived since childhood.
I've been a Jack of all trade, built Oil platforms(The concrete ones) every kind of constructon work, crane operating and so on.
IT left me with a small pention, so I enjoy Your kind of doing things, has me going now. Thank You, friend.
Stan
Good for you Stan! Wishing you the best and Happy New Year.
@@gonagain Thank You. Best wishes in the New year for You and Your family. I appreciate Your vids.
Stan
The vented look great and probably are fantastic heat, but size and space are such an issue in our van that the Wave 3 is perfect. It doesn’t create lots of moisture due to the catalytic burner, and what little moisture there is actually makes the van warmer. We are always in a dry climate also. Cooking in the van creates much more moisture for us.
We also like the fact that we can stored the Wave 3 in the summer! No holes no electricity use (why we didn’t like the diesel heaters either-and the noise:) The wave 3 can be left on all night on low, sips propane…perfect. We always have windows and vents open 24/7.
Great review! 🎉
I’ve seen quite a few people install everything that involves the diesel outside of the living space and then ducting the heat into the living space.
Mainly building an enclosed metal box out on the tongue.
The diesel heater also has a fuel pump that clicks as it pumps. But it's not that loud. They are designed for gang trucks in the North at logging camps and other work places in the North.
Thanks so much for putting this video together! I’be been looking for a cost effective way to heat my van without causing internal moisture issues. I think you’ve helped me figure this part out!
We love ours. It will also run one of those heat powered fans, even on a lower setting.
You are correct we hauled diesel fuel for a living (tanker trucks) I never want to smell diesel again!! It stays with you almost to forever!!
Yes, you get it on your hands and smell it for days.
Great video, how about the Nuway wood stove . Would be cool to have a free source of fuel
I spent six years smelling like JP-5; don't need those memories stirred. I'll probably use a vented propane heater, if I need to. Thanks for the thoughts to consider.
You're welcome Jon. I just found a way to install TWO 20lb propane bottles on the front of the little trailer and still have room for the tongue jack. I got tired of worrying about running out in the middle of nowhere! Video soon.
Looking into a propex heater. Burns propane, vented outside, zero moisture inside, thermostat controlled, mounted in a cabinet or they even have 1 you can mount under the floor. If you use the optional acoustic duct, it very quiet. It's just as convenient as an rv furnace but without the moisture.
We sure do appreciate our Nuway for our 7x14. I think ours is the next size up and with a small battery fan hanging from the ceiling, we go from too cold to get out of bed to get the heck out of the trailer in about 30 minutes lol. I also love that they're made in the USA.
Yeah, and we just warmed our trailer from 35 degrees to 70 in about 20 minutes. Nice heat.
Your previous video of heating your cargo trailer with the NuWay heater is the very reason I put the same model 2000 in our 6x12! I did use a sidewall vent for a wood pellet stove rather than going through the roof, however, and it's worked out well so far. (About two years)
Always enjoy your videos!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!
Hi John, thanks for the info on the side vent with the pellets. That's good info.
I opted to build my own heater for our Sprinter van. It runs off a two burner methylated spirit stove to heat a large bar of copper mounted with finned alloy heatsinks installed inside a steel tube, which is fitted with a small 12 volt PC fan at one end. It only take minutes to heat the van and the fuel is non toxic, it does consume the oxygen, so I leave a window slightly open to avoid asphyxiation.
That sounds like a great stove!
Great video. I’ve often dreamed of having a tiny wood burning stove in my Ram Promaster but it’s just not an efficient choice for me. I went with the Wave 3 and I’ve enjoyed that for 3 years but I would prefer the marine option you mentioned to take away any moisture issues. Thanks for another informative video. You always give me something to consider/think about.
Glad we can help!
Same same:) maybe in the next build:))
I get the wind...on the desert you eat sand and dirt....and breath it . .Oil stinks i am with you.
I use my special little candle for heat! I loves the 🕯 candle!
Great Timing .... I just installed a 5K large unit about 3 weeks ago .... works great ....1. first thing I did was add a Deep Cycle Battery now run with two also upgraded my Solar added a 100 Watt Panel ... important to have enough reserve to fire Glow Plug at Start Up and run the fan at cool down once the unit is running it fires on it's own heat so power draw is only from the Fan .... if you run the battery completely down the Fan will not run at Shutdown which cools down the unit for about 5 minutes ... if not enough power to run the fan at Cool Down you will burn up the electronic control module inside the unit .... 2. Installed Tank and Fuel Pump inside my external Aluminum Tool Box mounted on the Trailer Tongue .. no noise from pump inside trailer and no fuel smell ... also mounted pump by hanging it not fixing to box so very little mechanical resonance noise transfered through to structure ... 3. Purchased the large 5K Unit not the smaller to 2K .. it will burn more diesel while running but will run less also according what I seen on UA-cam the fan is quieter in the 5K because it's larger and has larger bearings and larger fan blades. 4. Because I insulated the floor which now has Plywood, 2 inches of Styrofoam and Plywood on top again I Flanged the exhaust with sheet metal with an extra inch of clearance and wrapped the exhaust pipe with Fibreglass Automotive Header Wrap for about 2 feet where it's closest to the burn unit ... tested it without wrap with laser thermometer and it's 300 Degrees and about 170 Degrees with Wrap ... not worried about burning up the floor now. 5. Went into the Advanced Settings of the external control unit and lowered the maximum Hrtz Cycle of the Fuel Pump Slightly so it will run a little less hot on high at start up ... also lowered the maximum RPM of Fan to 4500 from 5500 which makes less noise and apparently increases the life expectancy of the Fan ... I still have a propane heater which I can run if I'm charging the batteries .. diesel heater will take out any moisture from propane if run I run it mostly after dark ... I personally like the Diesel because it's so much cheaper and easy to buy ....
I like the way you set yours up. It took some thought and know how, but I think you did it right.
@@gonagain Thanks ... Merry Christmas
Howdy guys! Thank you. Great info 👍🏽😊
I prefer the WARM kind of HEAT. In my mini bike camper I only need a tea candle. Great info!
Now that's what I call efficient!
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS ! TAKE CARE..
Same to you Brushbum!
Two years using China Diesel Heater, dry heat, no smell at all, very efficient with fuel and electric, can be used to warm food, warm shower water as a backup. I installed two in my bus, another as back up for parts- total cost $450. Took 3 hours to install each. I hated the propane - have had RV ducted- awful waste of gas and electric, have used Mr Buddy - mildew, sweat, humidity, rots/stains wood-fabric on windows did I mention MILDEW? misery. To each their own.
Great video thank you for the info
Glad it was helpful!
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Stay safe and healthy!!
Geat video. I can sure appreciate it as the one in the RV trailer I bought for deer hunting worked 3 times and gave up. Made for some cold nights.
Thanks. Also the more expensive forced air propane heat exchanger is the Propex brand. Like the idea of the vented Marine heaters. Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas William!
Thank you! Always helpful and informative. Have a good day!
Thanks for the information 👍 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 😎
Same to you Jack!
Great job explaining things, thanks for sharing this video, great ideas come to mind.
Good! Care to share? I could always stand a great idea!
All good information!
I totally agree with you about the dry heat and I'm looking into getting a stove like yours.
On a side note.. some questions relating to fuel & mileage about your rig and trailer. I know that everyone has their own variables but if you don't mind, I'd like to hear about yours.
1) Do you carry extra fuel (gasoline)?
2) If so.. how many gallons?
3) Is it just for the atv or for your tow rig too?
4) Do you have a spare tank on your vehicle?
5) Do you carry separate gas cans?
6) Where do you carry them (in the vehicle or trailer, or strapped outside)?
7) How do you go about planning your fuel stops on your planned route?
This subject might make for an interesting video maybe...? :-)
I really enjoy the channel and thanks for the video...
With our 2002 Yukon and it's 5.3L engine we get about 13mpg towing. We don't carry spare fuel and usually tank up when it gets down to about half full. Some places out west you have to be careful because of the distance between towns.
Nice heater summary. I'm waiting for my dickinson Newport 12000 to arrive! Besides looking really nice, the dickinsons come with a small 12v fan integrated (0.17A), and they're direct vented so no need to let the chill in with a cracked window. You're right they a little abusive to the wallet, but on balance for my application, they're a great option!
Hi Chris, years ago we had a Dickenson diesel heater on our boat and the brand is very well made. It's going to make you a happy camper!
Parents were permanent RV'ers x last 15 years of their lives. They lived in a 34' 5th wheel, so insulation was decent. They didn't stay North in the winter, traveled to Texas for Thanksgiving with the same crowd each year. What my dad used for supplemental heat when it got below 60 degrees, (They started moving South from Mid Coast Maine around Labor Day) was a toaster oven, they have a small heating unit and a thermostat, so cost wise he thought it was perfect. He said he replaced it about once every 5 -8 years. He also thought it was cheaper than running the propane furnace.
Thanks for sharing about your dad. We sure miss our dads..
Linda is a cool lady,game for any adventure.
Thanks for sharing this information, I would look at propane for heat source.
Here I am again lol yes! Thx for doing this vid I'm amazed at how many peeps don't "research and plan" these things? 😭 👍💯🔥
Great video, the nuway heater just seems like a perfect fit for a simple, reliable heat source for a trailer like yours.
It is! Ours got a lot of use on this last trip every morning and evening.
Well Howdy There. Good to see another Vid. Had a Sneaking Hunch a Snowman gave you all a Visit. Me Too, I Love the Cold and Snow, as long as there is ZERO WIND and a Great Heater. But the Warmth of the Desert Wins Out Every Time. The Holiday Season is Still going on. The Spirit is Alive, And New Years will be Very Interesting with So Much Anticipation. 🤔 X-Mass came early as my new Rig Arrived a month early. Cool. Now I start the Build. I'm Excited, and I have a Ton of Fantastic Tutorials from some Nice Couple up in Montana. That is going to help. I listened Very Closely regarding the Heater Debate. However I Did go with the Mini Fireplace. I can cook on it aswell. And it will work just fine with my Insomnia Having to get up every 2-1/2 Hours Thereabouts. I'm a Happy Camper, Literally 🤠 ✌Maybe, I Just Might Scoot on Down to the Festival, Not Sure Yet. Either Way, You All STAY WARM & DRY. HAPPY NEW🥳 YEAR, And May God Bless 🙏🤲 (shoot me one on FB if you wish. THX)
Hello Erik, happy to hear your trailer arrived early!
@@gonagain Thank You. The 'Build' is going to be Fun. I'm starting a Journal: (How to put 1000-Items Including a 170lbs. Beast Into a 12x7' Shoebox And Live Inside) 'OH BOY'😯
You're going to have a blast building this, I can tell.
@@gonagain Thanks Again. You Are The Best.
Happy New Year!!! Great Video!! I finally picked up my new Casita. Very nice . Thanks for sharing.. 👍
I have a Chinese diesel heater, and a propane wave three...I like the diesel heater, it's fresh air, heated, it circulates and prevents mold or condensation...They are cheap, and sip fuel slowly and use very little electricity...If you get 2 winters out of one, it ends up costing nothing, even one year really...And there is literally no chance of explosion, as diesel is hard to ignite...Having some basic "know how" when it comes to installation, and what hardware to use, and what you should replace, out of the box, is helpful...Replacing the fuel line they provide with a higher quality one is advised, same with the hose clamps, and any hardware exposed to the elements, which is very cheap and easy to do....I have had two diesel heaters, the first one I used for two years, it still works, but it had a plastic case, that vibrated, and I replaced it with one that has a metal case, I found on e-bay...Both cost in the neighborhood of $150....I still use the first one in my camp sometimes..I like the wave 3 also, but the diesel provides a better more comfortable heat, it's like a forced air furnace at home, in a tiny cheap package...It takes very little electricity to run.....I like the looks of the vented propane stove, but have no experience with them...I didn't even know the existed when I got my first diesel heater and wave 3 ...If I had known, I would have considered it, for sure...The air circulation and dry heat of a diesel heater is hard to beat in my opinion...I also have a buddy propane heater, I use it outside sometimes....
Thanks for sharing your experiences with those heaters. I like that you changed out some of the components to make it more reliable.
Too funny Rick
We were just discussing this on the phone and look what popped up in my YT feed! That's kinda scary when you think about it.
Your trailer has come a long way since this video was made.
JT
And we are still changing things as we go along.
@@gonagain
Not changing, "perfecting". 🤠
Merry Christmas 🎁
Has anyone ever told you, you look exactly like Harrison Ford from the Indiana Jones Series?
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you and your wife!
Amazing!
Thank you Vladimir.
Oh Gosh now he's gonna get a bigger head.
😅😂🤣😉
Merry Christmas Rick and Linda.
Stay warm! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you & Linda, stay aware & be well out there!
Merry Christmas to ya'll🎅🎄
I like your propane heater, but I am wondering about the chimney - do u have any problems with rain getting inside when going down the road before using? If so, what do u cover the top ports with?
I don't have any problem with rain while driving. There are probably other ways to do this, but here's a video on how I built the roof cap:
ua-cam.com/video/tc-wbQRmQhM/v-deo.html
We use a 9000BTU Minisplit for a 7x14 cargo trailer with 1" insulation. Needs about 6kwh (500ah@12v) for 24hrs at 70F in 35F low 45F hi outside weather.
Thank you for a great video. I am like you I don't like the small of diesel. It doesn't readily evaporate. Vented propane is the way to go.
_Aloha; I've had my diesel heater going on the third season now. No problems, most problems people have are because of installing them incorrectly. I have a 5Kw for my 24 foot cargo trailer; all the fuel lines and tank is outside and runs underneath the trailer; I'm with you about the smell of diesel. Power is drawn at startup about 8 to 10.5 Ah's, and depending on what temperature you are running, then the draw of power is around .5 to 3.8 Ah's during the heating cycle. Once temp is reached, it drops down to the .5 to .8 Ah's. The pump has a ticking sound, and the sound does travel through the line too. I install them for people and have helped many out there, plus John Mc47 is the man on these things too! I have done all kinds of tests with these heaters to figure out how to keep the ticking noise down to a bare minimum. I am starting to runs some other tests with peristaltic pumps, but way too soon to talk about using them is just working out the how and amount for delivery of fuel. All and all, I love them, and if you or anyone else has questions, be free to ask me._
That's helpful information, thanks!
If we're on electricity, we just use a space heater. When we aren't on electricity we rely on the buddy heater. We do get some condensation, but seems it's always been pretty much isolated to the windows. We do leave the windows cracked when it's in use. One for peace of mind of safety concerns, regardless of what people say about using them with no air vent. And two because it will roast us out of the camper. Even with the windows open, we still end up having to turn it off after an hour or so because we're melting. And maybe not running it for hours and hours is why we don't get a lot of condensation. Not sure. Just know it's worked for us so far. Though I'd love to have one of those you have. Think that's an awesome way to heat the camper. We'll be heading to Arizona in a couple weeks. But we'll only be there for a week to hang out with some friends and meet up with some other yt channels. Maybe we'll see you there.
We're going to be in, out and about Quartzsite during January, so if you see us please say hello.
@@gonagain Will do!!! 😊
I like the Platinum Cat, vented catalytic heater. CO safe.
For now, I put up with my truck camper furnace which does a good job but loves batteries. I am looking at the possibility of in floor heating with a Truema or similar burner. There are also Webasto block heaters for semi trucks which can heat the camper and if wanted the truck and engine. Connect truck and camper with quick release connectors. I've camped in sub zero before where there is a 30 degree difference in temperature from the floor to the counter top. Explains why I get cold feet camping. You kidz take care and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family.
You've got some great ideas! One thing I know is that if you install floor heat you don't have to heat the water up very hot to maintain a constant warm temperature. Once it's heated inside you can turn the heat way down.
Propex is the way to go !
Now, if that door had a glass window and that gas burner went side to side instead of front to back, a grate above the burner with some of those fake coals (they glow red but don't burn when heated) the ones for open flame coal effect gas fires; you'd have something that resembles a glass fronted coal fired stove...a modification that would most likely be easy to do.
I have a cosy cabin heater to fit in my 9x5 insulated hard sides/roof fold up caravan/trailer, the one with the 1" flew in your video 👍
I have an eberspacher in my campervan and it's great for fast heat, it uses too much precious amps from my battery though for long continuous use.
I use a butane heater during the day with vents open and the eberspacher at night while sleeping when it's really cold or just turn it on if or when I wake up cold.
Great video! I never realized that the Mr Heater propane heaters put moisture in the air. I live in the desert (Las Vegas) so maybe it's not so noticeable here. Since you're going to Arizona, just in case you don't have enough things to spend money on (ha ha) there's an informal ham radio convention called QuartzFest on BLM land just south of Quartzsite. It's seven days and instead of sessions in conference rooms we have presentation areas set up. This year it's going to be different and they're calling it Quartz-Pause. Not sure if I'm going this year yet. Radio could work nicely in your travels around the country! 73, from KC7ZDM! Merry Christmas, and may the new year be a darn sight better than the old one!
Down there in the dry air the moisture from a propane heater might not be a bad thing. I'll keep the Quartz-Pause in mind.
With a Mr Heater you will be breathing produces of propane exhaust.
I'll be installing one in a step van conversion and tap into the van's fuel tank. Also, the heater will be located in my garage space and just duct the supply and return into the van. this should keep the sound and any fumes out of my living space. I think it should work well for me.
My future off-road trailer 12 x 6 on drawing board with 3 axis coupler, with axle-less suspension will be with two heating modes , a 2 kw Chinese diesel heater and a cub mini wood stove ....
Sounds like a good plan Dany. When your camped for a longer period of time you can use the wood stove and when you're on the move you can use the diesel. I say that because the problem we had with a wood heater was what to do with the live embers when it was time to roll!
@@gonagain Voilà ..,you guessed the idea!
🎉Merry Christmas y'all🎄
I’m considering that same heater you are running. If you had to guess, how long would a 20lb propane bottle last running it on low non stop?
One thing I know is, according to statistics, A 12,000BTU stove, on high, will last about 36 hours on a full 20lb tank. I never get mine over a medium setting.
This video is so educational for me! I'm comparing different propane heaters and haven't experienced this one yet... we've had a typical RV forced air heater and a Wave 3, and then there's our propane cook stove which does heat up our camper when in use. I wonder if someone could rig up a heater similar to this one just using their camper propane stove? That is if you have a overhead vent? I imagine the surrounding materials get really hot though. "Cheap RV Living" has his propane stove video... care to comment? I still get confused about why the Wave 3 results in more condensation. They're all burning propane. We like our Wave 3 for the most part but it's tricky getting the perfect window opening size and staying warm when it's really cold out. And we bring a extra towel dedicated to wiping down the condensation every morning...
Bob Wells is living in the dry desert so the moisture doesn't affect him very much. It's when you get into areas of higher humidity that it creates a big problem. I'm sure that a person could build a stovetop heater that would work pretty well of you can get it vented properly. If you do that I want to see how it comes out.
I have a Chinese diesel heater in my van. Very happy so far. Floor mounted vented through the floor. Pump and filter outside. Fuel tank inside by the sliding door to make it easy to fill. I was worried about the smell also. Was around sailboats. But my last boat had an old Gasoline Atomic Four.
Oh forgot to say merry Christmas. Enjoy your videos. BTW I bought the tiny Olite key chain light you talked about. Excellent flashlight.
My first boat had an Atomic Four and it almost never ran. Got me into trouble on more than one occasion before it died once and for all! I was a lot younger and dumber back then.
Merry Christmas to you too Paul. I use that little keychain light every day for one thing or another and I like the way it recharges.
Sorry to see the NuWay stoves are no longer available. After planning one in my cargo trailer build for several years I finely ordered one in January of this year, 2023. After waiting six months and twenty attempts to contact the company I had to do a chargeback on my card to get my money back. I will have to keep looking a similar affordable propane heat source.
That's unfortunate, perhaps you can find one on Ebay. There are quite a few listed there now. Sorry you had to go through all of that with the company.
Merry Christmas Great editing and video skill... oh yeah, great info too.
I agree 💯! It's so nice when someone notices the work put into editing because that's where the work is.
great discussion, lot's of good info, lot's to think about... thanks for sharing! So does the outside of the unit get hot?
Yes it does
On your daughters trailer she has the NewWay propane heater, was there a video on how you installed the side mount.
Yes, there is some info here. ua-cam.com/video/VuQYjcksGbY/v-deo.html
It goes over the entire installation, but it may help.
Not sure if anyone already mentioned, but I just purchased a webasto GAS/petro heater. Same as the diesel heaters except it runs on gas. I too did not want diesel for similar concerns, and did not want to have to carry another fuel type. I already have gas on hand for emergency fuel for my F350 and if I ever need to use my Honda generator. I’ll be installing it in a 7x19 cargo trailer I also just purchased.
(Building out a NEO 7x19 HD Aluminum Cargo w/1200 watts solar, 600 AH Lithium BB)
It sounds to me like your building out a nice rig! Plenty of solar and battery storage too.
@@gonagain Thanks, I owe a lot of know how to channels like yours, Tito, W, Prowse and more. I had thought I was already subscribed to yours but was not, I hit it today! Btw, I’m going to try your underneath outside floor insulation on my trailer. Thank you to you and your wife for all your great vids!
Merry Christmas y'all!
I like your heater and will be using one when I do my build in the spring. I have 2 questions about it. Does the flue pipe ever come loose going down washboard roads? And would one of the non electric heat activated fans for like an old pot belly stove work on it?
The stove top fans seem to work for others on these stoves. I intend to get one and try it. I have my flue pipe pop riveted together and it's never come apart.
Nice heater...if you have the room like you said... you could put a heat powered fan on top to help distribute the heat. I like the Marine Newport heaters, my top choice. We have a Propex heater built into our camper....we like it and it's super efficient dry heat.
Wish we could get out camping and escape to the south.....to the north.....anywhere....our county got locked down (again) and 2 week camping trip canceled...employer is requiring 2 week quarantine before returning to work if you travel anywhere....wth? Merry Christmas! Stay safe and Happy Camping!
That's just not right. I hope things free up soon so you can get out and about.
Thanks for this info!
Thanks for watching Alice!
I see you have a stove pipe draft flapper just above the stove. What function does that serve and when do you use it? I have the exact Nu-Way stove in my GFC camper with the stove pipe running outside at a 45 degree angle about 5' so I do not get the lift you get with the taller, straight pipe. I do worry that in a strong side wind exhaust could blow back down the pipe and into the camper. Would a draft flapper help to prevent such blow back? Thank you. I watch all your videos. Linda is a comedian and a laugh minute!
Sorry for the late response. The damper located just above the stove is there to slow down the exhaust a little to hold the heat in the stove longer for better heating. I usually set mine at about 45 degrees. The damper is designed so that, even if you close it all the way, it can't stop the flow. It would help on a windy day to slow a backdraft. Nuway only requires about a 3 foot lift, so you should be fine,
They make one of these that is propane powered that's what I want to get I'm like you I hate the diesel smell the propane heater is set up the same way so you don't have all the negative moisture problems that you do with most propane heaters
I would think about putting that diesel fuel tank on the outside in cold cold weather. Diesel fuel tends to gel and if it gels, u are up a creek for getting any inside to your heater. Somewhere on the inside of the trailer where it can be kept warm, not hot, but warm enough not to gel would be a lot better.
I figure you can add Power Service to the diesel to keep it from gelling and that would be ok.
If you were to use one of the small diesel units, it could be mounted to the outside of the rig and just plum in the heat outlet into the trailer.
I see that Slim Potatohead is trying that system right now and I'm looking forward to his next video to see how it's working for him.
Oh that's right!!!
Have you had any problems with propane being unable to flow at low temperatures? I'd love some tips on this if you have them. I've run into this with my propane system then switched to the diesel heater earlier this year. For myself I chose the diesel heater in part because I already have diesel available, my camper is in the back of my pickup and running a line wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be via the vent tube. It definitely smells outside the camper when it fires up, but as soon as its up to temperature it doesn't make any smell that I notice. If diesel is burning correctly this new low Sulphur diesel burns very cleanly. If I had to have an internally mounted tank, I'd strongly reconsider my choice unless it was a large sealed/externally vented unit. It's messy stuff when your pour and cleanup is indeed a nightmare. Since I start my diesel heater often before I stop the vehicle, the exhaust seems to keep the fuel tank warm enough to prevent gelling. You can buy expensive kerosene at Walmart, Home Depot, etc. It has basically no smell and if I had to use the internal tank in a pinch, I keep a gallon of that ready to go. As far as noise, once the camper and unit is up to temperature its pretty quiet. The fuel pump does make its little relay like noise, but I have sound deadened this and since its installed in a cabinet with air hoses coming out its not bad. I suspect that the fuel pump doesn't bother me because I have had Japanese Renai monitor heaters in a few of my homes. Run on fuel oil or diesel, whichever was cheaper. A lot of UA-cam videos show these heaters running full blast or not warmed up, if it sounded like that I wouldn't like it either. As for current, you bet it draws a fair bit. I have 400 watts worth of panels and this seems to be enough for it with moderate use. I can always go for a short drive and top off my secondary battery bank if needed, honestly it hasn't been a problem yet. Expect 10 amps draw for the first 10 minutes and about 2 amps after, probably less when I am not looking at it with a meter. I agree the controller units are unfriendly and vague, but this is mitigated by the remote control which is in simple english. (also how I turn on my heater before I stop). I'd love to add a second super small propane unit, sometimes I would like some extra moisture in the air. If you plumb the diesel heater properly and have the power for it, I think its a great option. I don't miss the hassles and expense of getting someone to fill my propane tanks. Just make sure I have fuel before I stop and its easy.
This was such a great post with really good info. Thanks!
The propane actually flows fine down to about minus 40F and at that point I hope I'm not camping!
@@gonagain Good to know. Maybe something is wrong with my regulator, around 8 degrees it didn't want to stay lit. Keep up the awesome work and unique prospective!
What a great & informative vid.
@Gonagain what is your thoughts on the Heat Powered Stove Fans?
Any chance on doing a collaboration with a Fire Department or Forest Service on best Fire Extinguishers & Proper way to use them ? After watching Coyote Works jeeps incident it would be nice to see someone do a vid on what to do during a vehicle, trailer & ground fire from engine or brakes.
THANK YOU for the great vids
Great vlog - I'm debating on getting a diesel heater for my teardrop- I like your choice but I don't have enough space for a unit like you have - right now I'm using a 12-volt electric blanket that keeps me warm - Have a Merry Christmas - Happy Holidays and stay safe
Hi Ken, if you read the comments here you'll find some great ideas to make those diesel heaters quieter and more efficient. Folks mostly seem to like them.
I use one in a teardrop and love it. get the 2K one as it is still to big for the space. If you use Kerosene you will not have the intense smell of diesel when refueling and be able to run it on low for longer time spans without any problems. As running on low for long spans will clod then up with unburn exhaust products.
That's good to know because when it's cold you need to refuel daily. I think I'd try to get at least a 5 gallon tank if possible.
Regarding the Nuway option, is the ceiling vent the only option or would it be OK to vent out the side of the trailer? I was really hoping to go the Nuway route but I'm reluctant to put a hole through the roof.
I have the same question, hoping to also get the Nu-way. I’m hoping I can maybe vent up and out the side near the top then maybe a removable vent stack.
You can go up and then out the side no problem.
@@gonagain perfect thanks. I keep my paramotor/trailer in the garage with 8ft doors resulting in zero clearance.
@@gerrycollins9409 holy moly you said it! I'm also trying to do this for a paramotor toy hauler camper. That's awesome. How's your rig coming?
@@Efntodd it’s coming but kind of slow, had to do some house projects first. I have a 6 x 12. Lots of decisions and thinking as I’m working. Fitting AC currently and I have a plan for the nu-way heater. When I get a little farther along I’ll post some pics in paramotor, toyhaulers etc FB page.
i love my diesel heater in my camper van.i smell no diesel ever.
In my small trailer I have a 12 V heater I run it runs off the car battery while I’m traveling and when I park I have batteries in the trailer it well run all night with no problem if I want it if I’m traveling for two or three hours before I’m going the trailer is already nice and toasty and I don’t have to warm it up it does not take much to keep it warm after gets warm
Hello...!!! Merry Christmas...!! Can You Check the Label on Your 12 Volt Heater...Let Us Know the Name Brand, Model # ,
Or Where to Buy One...?
Thanks , in Advance...
BillinL.A. 12-25-20.
How much fuel does your heater consume in say 20*-30* temps
On full blast it will last 36 hours. That being said, it's never up that high and we would easily get a week or more on a 20lb. bottle running it in the mornings and evenings. Right now it's like 35degrees in the mornings and it's on a very low setting in our little cargo trailer.
I thought your stove was wood it looks nice. I thought propane heaters sat on floor.. I guess I don't know much?? But I've had wood & pellet stoves in my home & thought one in a cargo trailer would be nice. Ijust don't want moisture in.my trailer. Nice video thank you.
The propane heater is vented so we don't get the moisture from using it. We did have a woodstove at first but it didn't work out for being on the road.
Westmarine is no longer available according to their site. May 2021
Thanks Vivie xx, I hope the product is still available through another outlet if you do a search.
Just looking through your old video's I wanted your thought on the vented propane heater you use. Do you smell propane like some of the small propane units that are not vented?
No, we don't smell propane at all.
What type of cap do you have on the vent pipe that will keep rain from coming in when driving down the road? Love your sensible KISS videos. Keep it up.
I just have this one and I don't have any problems with it. This link is through my Amazon Associates account: amzn.to/37Mkpme
Propane is far more dangerous than diesel. It's more expensive per BTU. The heater you demonstrated requires far more attention and takes way too much room.
I installed a diesel heater in our cargo trailer ( 5'x10'x5.5' ) in the all-in-one configuration. Filling tank WAS a pain, and spillage was inevitable. In the third winter, the tank failed, spilling fuel inside the compartment. yuck. We have since placed a tank outside, and it's MUCH better.
We put the heater on its own battery to ensure that the main battery is not depleted too much. We then trickle-charge the heater's battery. The diesel heater has its own remote control, and has operated pretty well. The ONLY noise is ticking from the pump, which annoys some people - but if you're in a cargo trailer, it's not like it's graveyard-quiet in the first place, particularly if you have a window-or-two cracked open. I think that's a nonsense argument.
In -25F temperatures, the windows had to be opened because it got too warm inside. All that said, when this heater fails, I intend to replace it with a Planar, which is far more reliable and simple.
Where did u get that little heater
We bought it direct from www.nuwaystoves.com
Ours is the Model 2000
Is the diamond plate behind the stove aluminum? Whether aluminum or steel, it appears to be mounted directly to the wall without any air gap. Since we haven't seen an adventure titled "Our Trailer Wall Scorched," guessing that works just fine. :-)
It's aluminum and has a half inch air gap behind it. That being said, it never even gets warm.
@@gonagain Thanks for speedy reply! And BTW, your vent scoop idea for dust control really resonated with me. Thought about getting together with manufacturers to make ones like yours?
Could you not mount the Newport heater on a cabinet or wall shelf?
You could as long as you maintain the required stand off distance from combustible surfaces.