Modern expensive locks: "pretty easy, barely an inconvenience" Smol lock with a century+ old design: "that's a bit tricky, I had to make a custom tool for it myself"
To be fair, its much more difficult to make a good lock that can be mass produced effeciently. That's also what the guy from StuffMadeHere said; he could make his lock hard to pick in large part because he didnt have to worry about it being mass-producable. Even so, it is crazy how this lock is this old, and common locks from today are just worse.
@@TheUnknownFactor 3020C is about 20€, and that's with the cost of labour in Finland. It's just a basic padlock around here, available everywhere. I wouldn't say it's in any way expensive.
The core is good however I'm pretty sure the lock itself could easily be removed destructively in a matter of seconds with something like his double wrench technique in vids 753 and 760 or anyone with a set of bolt cutters
Takes to pick: - several minutes - a custom made tool - advanced skill, and trial and error - three hands I'd heard that Abloy locks are top range, and now I've got a quote for that.
Sure thing. Pretty much no one is going to pick that lock because it's not going to be used in an environment where someone that skilled would be involved. They're gonna force the lock or use a stolen key. Duplicating the key from a good enough photograph is very doable and way, way easier than picking. Even that is not typical common criminal level stuff. Also requires carelessness and or a freak accident. Having a stolen key for several apartments plus "borrowing" the front door or storage facility key might enable a highly skilled criminal to make a master key for an entire apartment complex, but -that problem is not limited to this brand -requires some lazy locksmithing to have taken place to be plausible -the "classic" version is outdated by decades anyway and more recent series are harder to work on -any adversary skilled enough would probably think of something easier
@@tonsssedell4318 you can duplicate a classic key very easily, but that's the only lock you can do that with. Modern ones in the field nowadays like exec, sento, protec or easy are borderline impossible, unless you're a master craftsman.
@@Nibblerr actually the older abloy locks (edge, exec) have expired patents, so they're duplicable with the right tools. Sento has patent protection to the year 2026, after that it'll be copyable as well. You can buy a edge key decoder and cutter but they'll cost you, so there's no reason to buy one unless you're a locksmith or a cobbler, criminals have other easier ways in.
@@matiask7633 expired patents mean nothing when manufacturing the key is so hard that it requires its own (expensive) equipment. There's a lot of features in a single key mind you, not just the code itself.
We have been waiting for this in Finland! The lock has Interesting history. For example, there was a big open bounty for anyone to demonstrate practical attack against this. Decades passed and Abloy never had to pay. You don’t see lock manufacturers doing that very often. It took a long time for the first custom tool to appears. It was called Vempele (a gadget) and used by a professional burglar and kept secret. It then took several decades more before tools like the one seen in this video came up.
@@ShadowDragon8685 He could ask, but they'll likely say this isn't a practical attack since it takes so long and requires a custom tool. That's why they didn't pay it off for vempele either.
Correct me if I'm wrong but by the time vempele came out (in the 60s?) it was already unable to pick the newest models. It was still useful because there were probably hundreds of thousands of the older ones in use though.
@@Finwolven so, _they_ decide when the bounty is paid? That's a bit suspicious to me. That sort of thing seems like it would be better done by registering the bounty with some kind of long-lived law firm and is decided by a third party.
Always nice that he includes his viewers when he says that, "I think WE just got this open". It really makes me feel like I'm accomplishing something with my life.
@@squidcaps4308 That's actually true in some cases. We're potentially funding his decision to purchase new and unusual locks with ad revenue. Also, he buys some locks just to share with us. If we didn't watch, he'd pass them by.
We used these in the Finnish Army to lock our personal lockers. One evening, when we got back from weekend holiday, one of us had forgotten the key to his lock. So he spent at least an hour beating the lock with an entrenching shovel and eventually got the lock broken and open. :P
Maybe someone or someones got stupider by the time going by. When I was in army there was a spare key for every lock in front desk drawer(päivystäjä). It was very common almost every sunday when soldiers came back to barracks and someone had forgot their key. And if I remember correctly there was also master key for that set of locks.
Happened also for me in Riihimäki. I used thick and long bolt and smashed it with a big showel. It took a while untill the bolt got bend but still managed to break the lock. After that I went and got a cheap chinese lock.
You wrote that as if these are uncommon these days. Like every second household at least has the abloy classic core in various locks. Damn even my mailbox has one
@@tomiheinonen460 It is - but it's no longer the lock core used for any kind of secure door. I haven't seen a front entrance door with one in years, but we do have one in our store, it's the lock to the staff toilet. :D
Finally the Abloy lock I've been wanting to see for years! Here in Finland it's the most common core in our door locks, especially in detached houses. Good to see our doors are slightly more pick-resistant than what most of the world has!
This is a lock we lock our woodsheds with in Finland, low value targets. It's an lock that keeps honest men honest. For serious padlocks check out the PL362 with Protec2 core.
That phrase "keeps honest men honest" always bothers me. A truly honest person wouldn't go after someone else's belongings, so there's no reason to "keep" them honest. More accurate is it keeps a lazy person out.
In Abloys native land (Finland) this type of a pick was called "Vempele". Very few were able to use back then, but it had likely been used in bank heists in the past... The padlock version, of course, could be more easily broken physically with numerous tools...
I have been waiting for this particular lock, I knew this old model ABLOY would be somewhat resistant even for you, good job! I've used this lock for decades...
It took him 2:25 minutes, a special tool that he made, and years of experience to open it. I'm impressed with that lock. Some destructive atacks would be more effective to open it, and that is what gets me curious. How resistant it is.
@@NeverSnows That is 100 yrs old model. Abloy has much stronger ones and also that classic is easiest core to pick. (The original classic was easier, after 60's it was improved.) Waiting to see LPL to pick the latest models.. Likely a long video.
The new Abloy locks are totally next level. The key has two sets of notches, and discs have to be turned simultaneously. One at a time would not work. Also, the keys are coded. You get to know which one of the keys was used last, and when. And you can buy those from any hardware store in Finland...
Very nice to see you do this lock. The original padlock of this design was totally ubiquitous in Finland, when I was growing up, and you can still see them in use.
Hello from Finland. This is the lock that is used and still used shed that there is no valuable things inside. it works great even in frozen temp what we have in winter. If you have valuables inside then you have newer Abloy lock. And fun fact: Name Abloy comes AB Lukko OY.. "Ab" is swedish and "Oy" is Finnish and means Ltd. Lukko means Lock.
Great video. I grew up those locks were on everything. I’ve gone to SFIC system for all my locks nowdays but still have a couple in use for the neighbor kid to collect my mail when I’m gone.
Here in Finland there is/used to be a device called vempele that was used by few professional burglars, it was used to open abloy locks because practically everything here is locked with them. Your device looks like a more slick version of that vempele.
Funny coincidence. I started going to the gym couple months ago and I chose this exact lock to be used for the locker there. Nice to see I made a pretty good choice.
That lock used to be very common here in Finland. I have the same key model in my garage. It´s nice to see it is pretty good lock. It would be nice to see you picking the new generation Abloy. I hope it's not easier for you.
Most common lock core in Finland for 50+ years at any doors replaced by their protec/2. And I still believe that Nordic countries got it right to make sure that front doors open only out. No kicking doors in unless the frames with wall comes in..
There was a old device called "Vempele" in Finland, it was the only way to pick Abloy locks open. The only Vempeles was held by Finnish police back then, dont know the exact years though. Looks similar that you are using.
There is a rumour the KGB also developed a device, and that was said "to have involved some considerable time" by the Soviet specialists. True or not can't tell.
It takes a design about a century old to hold this man to 3 mins?? Why arent lockmakers on that right now lol xD LPL usually opens "unpickable" locks in about 10-30s with basic tools.
That's what I've been wondering, too. I think the patents for this lock expired around 1927 so you don't need to get any permissions or licenses to manufacture copies of this lock. Instead, we have the crap that MasterLock and friends put out.
It was just yesterday, when I was helping my friend here in Finland and looking at all the various locks people had put on rental storage doors. The classic Abloy was quite common and I was thinking how easy it would be for a professional to pick and saw in my mind flashes of all those locks where the pick is just inserted and it opens. 🙂
There are guys who reads the key in a glimpse and then making a key is easy. However these lock cylinders are not so widely in use anymore as exec and protec has taken over here in Finland.
Hello from Finland. Mostly you find these locking appartment building storage. Each appartment has their own little space that is basically couple planks of wood and chicken wire. By that description you can pretty much guess how much overkill these locks actually are.
Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan. Every finnish person is very familiar with this type of lock, as it has been the standard for decades here, even nowadays while Abloy has come out with multiple new generations of improved lock systems, these are still absolutely everywhere and still bought new for lower security purposes because as we can see here, still more difficult to pick than most foreign counterparts...
I seem to remember him recommending the modern locks from same manufacturer (Abloy). This is like the minimum standard that is for applications like locking away firewood.
i think i have this exact type on my storage door. the thing is, ive never been worried about it getting picked, even if the lock i had on it was terribly made, because for some reason, the storage unit has hinges on the outside of the door 😂 so if someone REALLY wanted to get into my storage room, they could very easily just unscrew the hinges, take what they want, then screw them back on, and no one would know. i hope whoever decides to do this likes empty cardboard boxes, though!
Looking over the comments, I get the impression many still don't quite grasp just how challenging this core really is. 1. Take note of the fact that LPL needs the lock to be held perfectly still. He also has to hold his custom tool perfectly still. 2. Even in the lab, with minimal disturbances, he takes over 2:20 to open this lock. Frankly, I'm not sure even LPL would get this open non-destructively in the field in a reasonable amount of time.
I use those old-school ABLOY locks for a lot of things as they are among the cheapest locks that my insurance company have approved. So perfect for things like tool-boxes, the garden shed and anything I need to keep the kids out of
Abloy basically stands for "Ltd Lock Inc." from Swedish "AB" and Finnish "OY" standing for "Inc." while the "L" in the middle is short for "Lukko" or lock in Finnish. Hence AB Lukko OY, ABLOY.
I would love to see you pick or even take apart a old Renaissance style lock even if it's just some remake based off older designs. I don't believe I've seen you do one of those yet. I could of missed it though.
Thank you for this! I have been waiting for this a long time! Would be awesome to see if you can pick open then more modern desings (like my front door) :D
You know LPL, you often say that you'll use a tool you made yourself, but I don't recall ever seeing a video about how you made those tools. I would really enjoy a machining video about that process!
@@ZenWithKen I don't need your comment, but you really don't have exposure to better pickers: LPL is not the gold standard, hell, he based the tool off of someone else's design
I live in Sweden and these were more common in older days but you still see them. I have always thought of these as hard to pick. You can still get them new I think.
OK so while this is difficult to pick, (to my limited understanding on locks) there's a 'flaw' in the design: the key itself. These kinds of locks were not just for padlocks but also for regular apartment doors. They serialize the locks so that you can create a master key which can be used by maintenance to enter any apartment. Apparently it's possible to create a master key just by owning a regular apartment key, due to the simple design of the key it's possible to figure out somehow. I'm not 100% sure if this is true but I do know this: years ago I was taking a nap and hear someone coming in, I ask who is it and a voice replies "I'm your neighbour, you left your door open" and shuts the door. Turns out it was a burglar who had ransacked several apartments and was never caught. He had a master key.
i would be very interested to see more abloy locks, or other nordic locks on this channel. My apartment building recently switched from abloy locks on the buildings outer doors, to iLOQs. Interested to hear how they measure up to the older alternatives. Almost every lock i've seen or interacted with in finland has been an abloy of some kind, is it because they're so good and or efficient?
Greetings from the land of ABLOY. Yeah this lock is like the base standard and it is rare to hear of anyone picking locks. Destructive methods seem to be the only solution if anyone ever needs to open a lock without the key. I also hope someone sends you a door from here so you can review if any bypass attacks would be possible because those you have shared videos of wouldn't work on doors here.
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Modern expensive locks: "pretty easy, barely an inconvenience"
Smol lock with a century+ old design: "that's a bit tricky, I had to make a custom tool for it myself"
To be fair, its much more difficult to make a good lock that can be mass produced effeciently. That's also what the guy from StuffMadeHere said; he could make his lock hard to pick in large part because he didnt have to worry about it being mass-producable. Even so, it is crazy how this lock is this old, and common locks from today are just worse.
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@@TheUnknownFactor This was very much a mass produced lock. The core was used in just about all houses, padlocks and so on in Finland for decades.
@@TheUnknownFactor 3020C is about 20€, and that's with the cost of labour in Finland. It's just a basic padlock around here, available everywhere. I wouldn't say it's in any way expensive.
The core is good however I'm pretty sure the lock itself could easily be removed destructively in a matter of seconds with something like his double wrench technique in vids 753 and 760 or anyone with a set of bolt cutters
Takes to pick:
- several minutes
- a custom made tool
- advanced skill, and trial and error
- three hands
I'd heard that Abloy locks are top range, and now I've got a quote for that.
Sure thing. Pretty much no one is going to pick that lock because it's not going to be used in an environment where someone that skilled would be involved. They're gonna force the lock or use a stolen key.
Duplicating the key from a good enough photograph is very doable and way, way easier than picking. Even that is not typical common criminal level stuff. Also requires carelessness and or a freak accident.
Having a stolen key for several apartments plus "borrowing" the front door or storage facility key might enable a highly skilled criminal to make a master key for an entire apartment complex, but
-that problem is not limited to this brand
-requires some lazy locksmithing to have taken place to be plausible
-the "classic" version is outdated by decades anyway and more recent series are harder to work on
-any adversary skilled enough would probably think of something easier
@@tonsssedell4318 you can duplicate a classic key very easily, but that's the only lock you can do that with. Modern ones in the field nowadays like exec, sento, protec or easy are borderline impossible, unless you're a master craftsman.
Womp womp go do that yourself neckbeard@@tonsssedell4318
@@Nibblerr actually the older abloy locks (edge, exec) have expired patents, so they're duplicable with the right tools. Sento has patent protection to the year 2026, after that it'll be copyable as well.
You can buy a edge key decoder and cutter but they'll cost you, so there's no reason to buy one unless you're a locksmith or a cobbler, criminals have other easier ways in.
@@matiask7633 expired patents mean nothing when manufacturing the key is so hard that it requires its own (expensive) equipment. There's a lot of features in a single key mind you, not just the code itself.
1:00 - 3:50 It takes 3 minutes of LPL's time and his own custom tools. That's quite impressive.
Feels like the 3020C is going up in sales :D
The Germans don't make good stuff, The Finns do.
True but it would not last 5 second against a brute force attack
@@Vili.K Wouldn't agree with you there, considering ABUS locks...
@@AlbertZonneveld In which case you would know her chastity belt had been removed!
We have been waiting for this in Finland! The lock has Interesting history. For example, there was a big open bounty for anyone to demonstrate practical attack against this. Decades passed and Abloy never had to pay. You don’t see lock manufacturers doing that very often.
It took a long time for the first custom tool to appears. It was called Vempele (a gadget) and used by a professional burglar and kept secret. It then took several decades more before tools like the one seen in this video came up.
Hold on...
Are you saying that the LPL could potentially claim a near-century-old bounty for this?
@@ShadowDragon8685 He could ask, but they'll likely say this isn't a practical attack since it takes so long and requires a custom tool. That's why they didn't pay it off for vempele either.
Correct me if I'm wrong but by the time vempele came out (in the 60s?) it was already unable to pick the newest models. It was still useful because there were probably hundreds of thousands of the older ones in use though.
@@Finwolven so, _they_ decide when the bounty is paid? That's a bit suspicious to me. That sort of thing seems like it would be better done by registering the bounty with some kind of long-lived law firm and is decided by a third party.
Sounds like the bounty Chubb put out for the Detector in the 1850s.
Always nice that he includes his viewers when he says that, "I think WE just got this open". It really makes me feel like I'm accomplishing something with my life.
Just imagine if you never had watched this video, he would've never got it open.
@@squidcaps4308 That's actually true in some cases. We're potentially funding his decision to purchase new and unusual locks with ad revenue. Also, he buys some locks just to share with us. If we didn't watch, he'd pass them by.
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I like specifically because of how specialized this tool is, it is actually the truth that we helped him unpick this lock.
We used these in the Finnish Army to lock our personal lockers. One evening, when we got back from weekend holiday, one of us had forgotten the key to his lock. So he spent at least an hour beating the lock with an entrenching shovel and eventually got the lock broken and open. :P
one of us used 2 shovels to break it, 1 shovel as a hammer and one resting on that lock :D it sounded funny.
Spolleille vaa viestiä ja niiltä voimapihdit. Meni tasan minuutti saada auki :D
I would literally have been killed for that in the place I served a couple years ago :D
Maybe someone or someones got stupider by the time going by. When I was in army there was a spare key for every lock in front desk drawer(päivystäjä). It was very common almost every sunday when soldiers came back to barracks and someone had forgot their key. And if I remember correctly there was also master key for that set of locks.
Happened also for me in Riihimäki. I used thick and long bolt and smashed it with a big showel. It took a while untill the bolt got bend but still managed to break the lock. After that I went and got a cheap chinese lock.
You can still see these locks in many places around Finland, not to mention that most doors have Abloy locks in them.
I've been waiting for this video, I use these a lot. Happy to see it lives up to it's fame!
The updated versions of this have the last disc also spinning free like the first one so you can't load it
You wrote that as if these are uncommon these days. Like every second household at least has the abloy classic core in various locks. Damn even my mailbox has one
@@ebinwaitee I'm pretty sure that Abloy classic is still the most common lock core in Finland.
@@tomiheinonen460 It is - but it's no longer the lock core used for any kind of secure door. I haven't seen a front entrance door with one in years, but we do have one in our store, it's the lock to the staff toilet. :D
My dad has two of these Abloy locks that are older than I am, never thought I'd see this type of lock being picked on the channel!
This lock or producer has some legendary status in Finland, so it's nice to see it's not totally bs.
Finally the Abloy lock I've been wanting to see for years! Here in Finland it's the most common core in our door locks, especially in detached houses. Good to see our doors are slightly more pick-resistant than what most of the world has!
This model of Abloy is so pretty! I have one of these just hanging on my tool box at work. It's 30+ years old and works perfectly.
This is a lock we lock our woodsheds with in Finland, low value targets. It's an lock that keeps honest men honest. For serious padlocks check out the PL362 with Protec2 core.
That phrase "keeps honest men honest" always bothers me. A truly honest person wouldn't go after someone else's belongings, so there's no reason to "keep" them honest. More accurate is it keeps a lazy person out.
@@CS-xt7nf True, but also opportunity makes the thief.
Finland got the approval, time to be proud about it.
In Abloys native land (Finland) this type of a pick was called "Vempele". Very few were able to use back then, but it had likely been used in bank heists in the past... The padlock version, of course, could be more easily broken physically with numerous tools...
I have been waiting for this particular lock, I knew this old model ABLOY would be somewhat resistant even for you, good job! I've used this lock for decades...
It took him 2:25 minutes, a special tool that he made, and years of experience to open it. I'm impressed with that lock. Some destructive atacks would be more effective to open it, and that is what gets me curious. How resistant it is.
That model is not very strong.
@@jounisaari9471 Quite sad, unfortunately.
@@NeverSnows That is 100 yrs old model. Abloy has much stronger ones and also that classic is easiest core to pick. (The original classic was easier, after 60's it was improved.)
Waiting to see LPL to pick the latest models.. Likely a long video.
Love a lock that gives the Legend a real challenge. Well done Abloy!
4 minute video makes this a very good lock seems like locks are deproving LMAO
@Great Dane what are *you* talking about?
@Great Dane Okay? But you're "bringing this kind of shit" with your comment. Just saying
Used these locks when i served the military here in Finland. They give these to everyone serving. Great locks
There's just something oddly satisfying about watching these videos,and hearing him talking about it.
I have an old one of these locks on my garden shed. Glad to hear it's actually decent.
The new Abloy locks are totally next level. The key has two sets of notches, and discs have to be turned simultaneously. One at a time would not work. Also, the keys are coded. You get to know which one of the keys was used last, and when. And you can buy those from any hardware store in Finland...
Very nice to see you do this lock. The original padlock of this design was totally ubiquitous in Finland, when I was growing up, and you can still see them in use.
Hello from Finland. This is the lock that is used and still used shed that there is no valuable things inside. it works great even in frozen temp what we have in winter.
If you have valuables inside then you have newer Abloy lock.
And fun fact: Name Abloy comes AB Lukko OY.. "Ab" is swedish and "Oy" is Finnish and means Ltd. Lukko means Lock.
Still very common in Finland. Many older houses have doors with them. Abloy also makes beefier padlocks with those same keys.
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Great video.
I grew up those locks were on everything.
I’ve gone to SFIC system for all my locks nowdays but still have a couple in use for the neighbor kid to collect my mail when I’m gone.
Got a few of these, we did get them in the Swedish military for our locker and other stuff, but that was 22 years ago.
Here in Finland there is/used to be a device called vempele that was used by few professional burglars, it was used to open abloy locks because practically everything here is locked with them. Your device looks like a more slick version of that vempele.
Funny coincidence. I started going to the gym couple months ago and I chose this exact lock to be used for the locker there. Nice to see I made a pretty good choice.
That thing would have its mail forwarded to the naughty bucket...because that's where it would live FOREVER at my place! Very nice work, my friend!
That lock used to be very common here in Finland. I have the same key model in my garage. It´s nice to see it is pretty good lock. It would be nice to see you picking the new generation Abloy. I hope it's not easier for you.
Most common lock core in Finland for 50+ years at any doors replaced by their protec/2. And I still believe that Nordic countries got it right to make sure that front doors open only out. No kicking doors in unless the frames with wall comes in..
its more a fire security thing that doors that lead outside always open outwards
LPL: Takes specialized tools and a fair bit of skill.
Me: High praise indeed.
Getting nostalgia just from looking at that key
This was so satisfying I can't even describe.
There was a old device called "Vempele" in Finland, it was the only way to pick Abloy locks open. The only Vempeles was held by Finnish police back then, dont know the exact years though. Looks similar that you are using.
There is a rumour the KGB also developed a device, and that was said "to have involved some considerable time" by the Soviet specialists. True or not can't tell.
Although "Vempele" is a name of a product, it's a proper word than translates to English: "Thingamabob" :D
@@Itapirkanmaa2 it’s true and it’s in the spy museum in Tampere
The Vempele was originally designed and used by a Finnish rapist :/
@@markuskoivisto OK thanks, must visit them some time-
"I'd have to have a friend steady it" = This lock is unpickable!
patently false, no lock is unpickable
🤯🤯🤯 surely this lock is the work of the dark lord himself, never seen LPL take this long to do anything, including his ex's back-door
Fascinating demonstration of skills from the precision engineering legal locksmith!🤣
I can hear the cheers from Abloy, even from Utah!
It's like watching Mr. Spock do the Vulcan mind-meld.
this puts masterlock to shame
Ok, so you put this core into something virtually indestructible and you’ve got the almost perfect lock.
As a Finn, this is what I have been waiting for! The classic Abloy padlock!
Now having watched the video, I'm a proud Finn!
It takes a design about a century old to hold this man to 3 mins??
Why arent lockmakers on that right now lol xD LPL usually opens "unpickable" locks in about 10-30s with basic tools.
That's what I've been wondering, too. I think the patents for this lock expired around 1927 so you don't need to get any permissions or licenses to manufacture copies of this lock. Instead, we have the crap that MasterLock and friends put out.
It’s so fascinating to look when LPL face secure core
Thanks for mentioning how you'd deal with this in the wild!
It was just yesterday, when I was helping my friend here in Finland and looking at all the various locks people had put on rental storage doors. The classic Abloy was quite common and I was thinking how easy it would be for a professional to pick and saw in my mind flashes of all those locks where the pick is just inserted and it opens. 🙂
There are guys who reads the key in a glimpse and then making a key is easy. However these lock cylinders are not so widely in use anymore as exec and protec has taken over here in Finland.
I have this exact core still in my home door (house built in 1975), I feel secure.
"I'm going to insert my tool all the way to the back of the keychain"
Sounds dirty.
That was wild. And yet he still defeated it. Absolute master.
They are all meant to keep honest people honest. Just that some people aren’t honest. Very cool lock !
Hello from Finland. Mostly you find these locking appartment building storage. Each appartment has their own little space that is basically couple planks of wood and chicken wire. By that description you can pretty much guess how much overkill these locks actually are.
This just so happens to be one of the more interesting episodes.
Thanks for the content.
Keep up the good work.
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I am starting to think this guy is living in a bank safe by the fact he lockpick absolutely everything
When he uses the compliment very skilled picker? That says it all.
For many elder Finn's Abloy is almost like a synonym for the lock :)
if LPL makes a video about your lock that's over 2 minutes long, you should consider that a huge success
Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan. Every finnish person is very familiar with this type of lock, as it has been the standard for decades here, even nowadays while Abloy has come out with multiple new generations of improved lock systems, these are still absolutely everywhere and still bought new for lower security purposes because as we can see here, still more difficult to pick than most foreign counterparts...
Time to get the Abloy ProTec 2 on the channel!
Wow master lock wishes they were that challenging and secure
Hecking love this lock. got it everywhewre
yay - finally my long ago asked question as to what lock LPL would recommend - we might have a winner!
I seem to remember him recommending the modern locks from same manufacturer (Abloy). This is like the minimum standard that is for applications like locking away firewood.
i think i have this exact type on my storage door. the thing is, ive never been worried about it getting picked, even if the lock i had on it was terribly made, because for some reason, the storage unit has hinges on the outside of the door 😂 so if someone REALLY wanted to get into my storage room, they could very easily just unscrew the hinges, take what they want, then screw them back on, and no one would know. i hope whoever decides to do this likes empty cardboard boxes, though!
we had these locks in military in finland
Looking over the comments, I get the impression many still don't quite grasp just how challenging this core really is.
1. Take note of the fact that LPL needs the lock to be held perfectly still. He also has to hold his custom tool perfectly still.
2. Even in the lab, with minimal disturbances, he takes over 2:20 to open this lock.
Frankly, I'm not sure even LPL would get this open non-destructively in the field in a reasonable amount of time.
What a mighty lock!
I use those old-school ABLOY locks for a lot of things as they are among the cheapest locks that my insurance company have approved. So perfect for things like tool-boxes, the garden shed and anything I need to keep the kids out of
Two and half minutes, this must be one of the longest picking sessions ever.
Damn.
These are going to start flying off the shelves!
Abloy basically stands for "Ltd Lock Inc." from Swedish "AB" and Finnish "OY" standing for "Inc." while the "L" in the middle is short for "Lukko" or lock in Finnish. Hence AB Lukko OY, ABLOY.
I'm tearing up in happiness that our Finnish lock is tricky to pick and took (relatively) long time to get through.
Beautiful lock!
This lock is still being issued in the swedish defense forces for locking personal equipment!
4+ mins video ... miracle miracle
As a Finn I'm stil behind the locks. Abloy owns us nowadays
I would love to see you pick or even take apart a old Renaissance style lock even if it's just some remake based off older designs. I don't believe I've seen you do one of those yet. I could of missed it though.
woah.. the wait is so INTENSE!
Thats pure Mannerheinium. Same material as the Nokias. Only god can break that
Don't mess with Finland. After they were able to weaponize Polka music, it comes to no surprise they would have a lock that impresses LPL.
whew, got a little worried there for a second!
Thank you for this! I have been waiting for this a long time! Would be awesome to see if you can pick open then more modern desings (like my front door) :D
You know LPL, you often say that you'll use a tool you made yourself, but I don't recall ever seeing a video about how you made those tools. I would really enjoy a machining video about that process!
I have always thinked how people pick these. And this is most common lock type on Finland, its like everywhere
That thing is ubiquitous in Finland. :D Some are so old the brass is blackened or turned green.
A lock that takes that long to pick...it's like seeing a unicorn. Thanks for sharing!
wow, you really don't have any exposure to better pickers do you
@@thelockpickingspoon9074 Post a video picking that lock faster and I will honor you with a comment. :-)
@@ZenWithKen I don't need your comment, but you really don't have exposure to better pickers: LPL is not the gold standard, hell, he based the tool off of someone else's design
@@thelockpickingspoon9074 I will check your channel out. Thanks for sharing.
10/10 security through obscurity.
I live in Sweden and these were more common in older days but you still see them. I have always thought of these as hard to pick. You can still get them new I think.
Wow a lock over a hundred years old gives him more trouble than any other lock
This lock would probably rate over 9000 on masterlocks security rating.
When a LPL video is more than 4 minutes you know it’s serious
When the video is longer than 2 minutes you know the lock is good.
A 4 minute LPL video.
Must be a good lock.
OK so while this is difficult to pick, (to my limited understanding on locks) there's a 'flaw' in the design: the key itself. These kinds of locks were not just for padlocks but also for regular apartment doors. They serialize the locks so that you can create a master key which can be used by maintenance to enter any apartment. Apparently it's possible to create a master key just by owning a regular apartment key, due to the simple design of the key it's possible to figure out somehow. I'm not 100% sure if this is true but I do know this: years ago I was taking a nap and hear someone coming in, I ask who is it and a voice replies "I'm your neighbour, you left your door open" and shuts the door. Turns out it was a burglar who had ransacked several apartments and was never caught. He had a master key.
"Apparently it's possible to create a master key just by owning a regular apartment key"
Not true.
this would be a nice time to have a sponsored link to buy this padlock
i would be very interested to see more abloy locks, or other nordic locks on this channel. My apartment building recently switched from abloy locks on the buildings outer doors, to iLOQs. Interested to hear how they measure up to the older alternatives.
Almost every lock i've seen or interacted with in finland has been an abloy of some kind, is it because they're so good and or efficient?
Greetings from the land of ABLOY. Yeah this lock is like the base standard and it is rare to hear of anyone picking locks. Destructive methods seem to be the only solution if anyone ever needs to open a lock without the key.
I also hope someone sends you a door from here so you can review if any bypass attacks would be possible because those you have shared videos of wouldn't work on doors here.
Great video! This lock seems a more likely candidate for a brute-force attack.