Ice Cube saw right through Jerry Heller. He was was the smart one to get away. Dr. Dre caught on later. Plain & simple. But much respect to Eazy-E for helping to bring this music to the forefront. Without Eazy's push, we wouldn't know about N.W.A.
ERIC EPPS Without this old dude, we wouldn't know about Cube, Dre, or E. The movie was great but it was Ice Cube's version of the story, no one else's, and should not be taken as the only truth. According to the movie, Cube was the smartest, the one with talent, the one who knew not to sign a contract... but smashed up an office with a bat to get royalties he thought he was owed, which (in the movie) was a brilliant move. Reality was more than slightly different.
ERIC EPPS everybody in the Industry has fucked up deals. It wasn't only NWA. Guns N Roses went through the same shit, Axel Rose ended up taking the lions share of the income and bought the naming rights. Prince had a shittier deal because Prince wrote his lyrics, played guitar and produced his own shit. Yeah, 95% of artists and bands today have Shitty deals... the only people that are getting Great Deals are artists that write their own music and can do live shows... and own their own labels or are signed to a Indie Label. If your signed to Universal, Warner, etc... your getting fucked at this moment.
You all have excellent points. To be in the music & film industry, you have to literally "sell your soul" in a sense...... Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'm happy for the success of the "Straight Outta Compton" movie, for the original members of N.W.A. can be compensated and today's rap audience can hear other music besides "trap rap" & watered down pop......
+sparklemotion101 they were established and existed for at least 1 album+ before jerry heller even got involved. he had nothing to do with the creation of NWA or their original record deal.
Damn, heller really hates Cube. Give Cube some credits instead of talking shit about him on something that happened 20 years ago. Ice Cube is the reason Eazy-E started rapping and Ice Cube wrote most of the lyrics in N.W.A
+Kristian Ghosts THE OLD MANS HATE CUBE CAUSE HE LITE THE FIRE UNDER THEIR ASS (RUTHLESS RECORDS) AND THE FLAMES GOT TO BIG FOR THEM TO HANDLE!! THE YOUNGEST IN THE GROUP WAS THE SMARTEST WITH THE INTEGRIT! IF CUBE DIDNT PUT IT OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE THEY WOULDVE MADE EVEN MORE MILLIONS!
+Janiel Bedminster Yes I know, but why didn't Heller just embrace Cube and cared for him just like he did for Eazy-E. N.W.A would've stayed together alot longer if only Jerry could've been fair with everyone not only with EazyE, ofc someone (Cube) will get ''jealous'' of that cause its unfair for him and the others.
Seamus Mcdonald youre a funny guy to Assume thats where i got my info from!!! LoL!! You might as well say that THEY ALL had a Conspiracy against Heller!!
Yeah Paul Giamatti did an excellent job at portraying that lying piece of shit. I think they all did very well in their roles. I definitely wasn't expecting it to be as great of a movie as it was regardless of how interesting the story actually is or how much of a fan of them I was/am since I was a kid. In a time where you have to be skeptical about how most movies and projects are going to turn out because so much of it is shit, I was very glad that they took the effort to make the movie right and I definitely think it deserved the Oscar it was nominated for.
ICE CUBE never got arrested. He became a boss, was the only smart one out of the group not to sign a dumbazz contract, he paved his own way and won doing it. U can't get more gangsta than that.
Glad you said that about The D.O.C. I always say that his car crash is one of the biggest tragedies in hip-hop. He was about to be a hip-hop MEGA STAR if he could have had a 2nd album in his prime.
I always said Ren was on another level and that nothing to take away from cube (he shown he was a great overall product) but Ren was more versatile and advanced with the flow. If he found more relatable subject matter to drop during his early part of his solo career he could have been huge
+jay W Agreed. I always thought MC Ren was incredibly underrated. He was honestly my fav in the group. From his flow, to his voice, to his lyrics, he was just as good as Cube if not better imo.
In my opinion Jerry heller was the best rapper in nwa, ice cube was hard but damn jerry could spit like a machine gun. Jerry is the most underated rapper of all time, his album " I'm cumming for Jew niggaz" was the best diss album of all time. That's just my opinion
Cube didn’t claim Jerry to be stealing he said he was manipulating them into signing bogus ass contracts that weren’t advantageous to them. Jerry knew what Cube was talking bout.
no it's not stealing if you signed a stupid contracts. ice cube realised he will make more money going solo and the first nwa album put him on the map.
Record labels always steal or profit from artist's it's almost impossible to remain independent and when a label offers you X amount for like say 5 albums they try get their money back and then some, when some artists are worth more than the deal they took.
Nobody is claiming Jerry stole money, they are claiming they didn't get paid what they are owed. Nobody says a C.E.O who makes 300x his employee is stealing money. Jerry still doesn't get it after all these years.
I think he definitely took advantage of E. He knew a lot more about business than Eazy did. There's no way he stole anything, but the contracts probably benefited him.
@@rightcoast7049 it is stealing in a way when eazy essentially traded his time and effort for money and didn’t get the money he was promised. But yeah he definitely took advantage
I'm hella weak from some of these comments. I not going to disrespect my elders but I will say this without Ice Cube it would not be N.W.A. Jerry used Eazy E bottomline. Love Ice Cube
Asali's TV “Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say, hail to the …” Easy E….We needed Ice Cube to bring the lyrics and the magic to the group. Too bad they could not have worked it out. They could have put out 10 more great albums. What could have been, and what we missed is a fukin bummer.
Asali's TV Hate to say it but without Heller there would be no NWA. They used each other initially. Eazy needed a white guy with connections to break into the industry. His mistake was in not cutting him loose when his dodgy contracts started to break up the crew.
Because that what he saw in his household . Two of his parent married ,raised in a structural household that why he wasn't allowed to leave the house early and running around sexing all kinds of women . I believe he had a curfew
So? I’m sick of bullshit people talking shit about people are fan of nwa cause of straight outta Compton, well you’re not born knowing everything eventually you will learn stuff, I didn’t even know that ice cube was a rapper before watching straight outta Compton, then I learned about crips and bloods, eazy e being real og and hustler, so I learned things and dig more into it
Eazy was the only one in the group getting paid??? Because, he fuckin financed everything and started Ruthless records and owned it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rip 🙏 Eric Wright
@@behonestwithyourself3718Jerry Heller was taking majority of it, which is the reason why Ice cube left the group. Then later on Dre for the same reason.
Jerry Heller is what we call a typical Record label owner back in the day, if you watch the movie Cadillac Records this is just how they roll. Jerry isn't lying, he just doesn't think what he's doing is stealing, he's using and old business model where the artist always end up broke. The nobody sued me thing is funny because these are street guys they only know one way. If they use that way they end up in prison and Jerry knows that so he's being intellectually dishonest.
you people are fucking ridiculous as if "street guys" know how to file a lawsuit ... as if theres no people behind bars who learned the law and defended themselves youre intellectually lazy if you dont learn the laws of the business you enter
Nah he stole period point blank and the only One he was fooling was eazy cube caught on and he was smart it took dre awhile but he eventually caught on was well but nobody was trying to hear it
Paul Giamatti is a great actor. He had him nailed. You can stop watching and just listen to Heller's voice and you hear Giamatti in Straight Outta Compton.
This interview is terrible. You didn't challenge him on one of his claims. What do you mean "it's impossible to steal money in the music business"...You let him get away with saying that nonsense. It's absolutely possible!!
Jerry Heller talking about "everyone made so much money, why would I steal?" Then goes on to talk about how rich Cube and Dre are....but the stuff he references are projects that Cube and Dre got themselves, long after NWA. he's trying to act like Dre making millions off 'Beats by Dre' negates missing money from NWA. Comes across as a sleight of hand trick. Am I wrong about this? Someone who knows the story better than I do, feel free to tell me if I'm wrong, cause Heller sounds shady af to me.
***** well, what they're talking about is money that Jerry Heller allegedly kept Dre and the others from receiving back in the NWA days. Yeah, Dre is definitely wealthy now, but they're talking about way back in the beginning and whether or not they got even, fair payouts. You are right though- if Dre tried to ask him for money now, it would be ridiculous!
I think they just signed a terrible contract, but back then and to young people who didn't understand the shark infested waters of the music business it comes across as stealing. I don't believe that Ice Cube was jealous of Easy E I just don't.
+yragcom1 It doesn't just happen in the music industry, as Hollywood is notorious for this kind of shady shit. I can't even list off all the rumors out there of writers/directors pulling guns on themselves or on studio execs in an attempt to get a movie released
+Brooklynn “sexytnmami” Richards Right why would you be jealous of the man you made? Musically it didn't make sense and makes even less sense to say looking at what Cube stood on and did with his life.
+Rohan Singh I don't know about that DR Dre makes most of there beats he set his people up compared to most other managers. Em rose to fame from nothing 50 as well game is sticking with his Gangsta attitude it will only go so far.
Straight Outta Compton is not a documentary! Dre and Cube co-produced the movie. Obviously, they'll make the people they hated look bad and make themselves look good. Why do you think you don't see Dre beating up women in the film?
+CarlHH777 but to be fair if you read the history behind it from all sides Jerry hella is a dodgy bloke and to me ice cubes story is the most believable
Dre has been accused a few times of violence against women, most notably Dee Barnes (civil suit was settled out of court) and Michel'le. He even issued a statement a few weeks ago apologizing for it.
He kept saying Cube was the youngest but he was the smart not to sell out to him. Cube didnt sign that contract, which he hates cuz he saw talent in Cube. He couldn't make more money off him
I love how everyone's getting mad cos' the new generation is just starting to listen to N.W.A., Because of the movie. Have you heard the music on the radio now? They saw the movie and fell in love with the history and music. WHY the fuck does everyone want to knock them for that? Okay...so you listened to them before they came out...congrats. The new generation is listening out for better music, and they found that with watching the movie. Let them learn. Chill out.
People still gonna listen to the same bullshit they're putting out today...I get so much shit because the only hip hop I listen to is old school hip hop (and most recent, Kendrick) because I grew up on my dads tapes he had when he was young. This shit on the radio ain't fucking rap but the same people shaking there finger saying "young people don't know.." Are the same ones with that Watch me Nay Nay bullshit on they iPod playlist so don't trip.
+courtney jenson It's a shame because I really do enjoy their music and old hip hop ap, but everyone else is like: "nope, you're a toxic hipster" Fuck outta here.
Ice Cube isn't the person to believe just cause he talks the most cause if u let Cube tell it he wrote all the songs which when u check the credits that's false
+Gary Nicholls a few weeks ago on the breakfast club and he's said multiple times throughout his career. Cube is full of shit he felt he should have been getting as much money as Eazy but it was Eazy's company so of course he's gonna make more money also he always talk about the bad contract Jerry and Eazy tried to get him to sign but never talk about the way he fucked the artist that were signed to him
R.I.P Jerry Heller, some people agree that you did some bad shit, but we can all agree that you still looked after NWA and at least put the members in a better place than when they were struggling.
Jerry was a crook plain and simple. That group sold a ton of albums and went on multiple tours but yet Cube was still living at his moms house. That shit makes no sense. Jerry was robbin NWA
He didn't steal shit. He helped take Ruthless to the next level. I'm not just trying to defend him. People just jump to conclusions with no facts. It's not like he bullied his way into Ruthless. Eazy E brought him on.
@rightcoast7049 Oh so you were there? Did you read through the group members’ contracts, what were the terms like? You weren’t so you don’t know. Furthermore you think stealing via a bad contract isn’t evil? Kind of like the government stole land from the Natives time and time and time and time again? Oh but they signed a piece of paper so we’re all good right? Fair deal? Reading your thoughts is like stepping in dog crap I just had to scrap it off.
Eazy felt Jerry was like a father to him. It was more on a personal level. Cold 187um explained in one of his interviews that if Eazy had been more a seasonal owner, he would've got rid of Jerry before Cube left.
Florenzo Cribbs Because Jerry was screwing him over and confessed that “it was just business” between them and money wise, that’s why Eazy ended it and fired him
We studied this case in school when I studied music business and film. What NWA actually claimed Jerry stole was actually money they owed. They were spending money before they even earned it. For example. If I gave you a two million dollar budget to create an album as advance, i expect you to pay back that 2 million dollars after the sales of the album has passed - to recuperate what i had lost in investing on the production of your album. Now - most rappers have a tendency to touch that advance money / album budget and usually start blurring the lines between an advance - and revenue. Now the revenue is actually what the rappers can take home and START spending. So when they did the math of their album sales and thought they were getting less than what they were supposed to they started thinking Jerry stole that amount from them - when in reality the amount that was taken from them was actually the amount given to them to MAKE the album PLUS other expenses like (CHAINS, LAMBORGHINIS, ESCORTS, DRUGS, CLOTHES, ETC.) Just thought I'd let some kids know this since I see a lot of youth entering the entertainment business and it's easy to get jerked if you don't know how it works.
So technically they just set you up for failure without them explaining to you the game, Fool me once Shams on you Fool me Twice shame on me, Except Ice Cube Since he didn't sign a contract.
no, artists have been stupid and near sighted for decades and they think a million dollar advance is a lot of money, when in reality thats enough to fund your career for about 2 years . after one hit song if you dont produce yourself and own your masters, youre going to go broke. especially if you life a live you cant actually afford its the fault of who ever makes the bad deal. not the "old white men" or "da jewz"
He wasnt a street guy because he is smart he wanted to be an architect. The reason why he became a rapper because they were just making songs for fun and they didnt expect there songs to blow up.
Not tryin' to be funny but did Heller have some gay feelin's over Eazy? Did he get mad cause Cube and Dre exposed him over the truth? Lonzo said when Heller first met Dre and Eazy to sign a deal he lost his nuts.
Nah I think easy was pretty fucking upset lol I'm struggling to tell if you actually know what happened or? Cos he lost his closest friends, thought he was getting something out of the work he was doing but he wasn't getting shit and only got more and more stressed and more and more sick. He lost almost everything. And you really wanna undermine the situation like that? Dude, your too much of an optimist lol
+Aziza Kas you may be right but he's not here to give his side of the details. Everyone has their own perspective of what happened back then and we know everyone perceive things differently. The movie pointed out a lot of details but it was also made to suit Hollywood and wasn't all facts. As far as this man speaking I don't care to hear anymore of what he's speaking.
+sogoode237 oh yeah I'm definitely a realist too. Reason why I'm basing my opinion off human nature. You go through all that shit and you don't think less of a man? Nah. Hate is a strong word, that is true, maybe strongly disliked? But then again unlike other people who use the word hate lightly, he has more than a valid reason to use it. I just think that the people who have more of a day having been closer to the situation, are the story tellers, because I realise I'm a stranger. So if those closest to him say one thing I won't say the other. There's room for possibilities but i wouldn't have it as a solid opinion of you get what I mean?
Even though heller did some odd funky business, you have to admit he made an artist realize and transformed the music genre. Especially with Ice cube and dr.dre
I approached this with an open mind figuring there's two sides to this. This dude's such a weasel and full of double standards. I feel sick at the thought of how he's able to convince himself he's the victim here. The NWA guys realised they were getting a raw deal and he's still in denial about it.
He really hates Ice Cube; probably because he was right about Jerry. He is even trying to discredit his writing of songs for the group. The days of cheating artists is not over, but it is harder because of technology and because of smart informed artists.
old comment but the wealthy did. You'd need about $2500 to get one that was really little more than a digital word processor. Funny to look back at now. Hilarious, really.
Cube was the original godfather of gangster rap. He wrote all the songs he wrote all of eazy shit in the early years. NWA needed cube more than he needed them. Dre was the music guy and cube was the main writer of the group. Without his rhymes n bars it would never have worked. Ren was okay but him and yella I feel just kinda tagged along. Dre's beats cubes lyrics and eazy"s voice n money was all that was ever needed. cubes lyrics made the biggest impact for the group Idk if he was getting ripped off for real but I don't feel like cube has any reason to lie about it. N if Dre eventually left for the same reasons then something must have been going on. There's no smoke without 🔥
Shut up. Ice cube was broke or didn't want to invest his own money...EAZY E TOOK THE RISK...THEREFORE EAZY E WAS THE BOSS...AND STILL IS THE GOD FATHER OF GANGSTER RAP...FOH
Without Jerry NWA probably never would've been heard outside of their hood so props to Him for that but like all managers he played fast and loose with their money
I believe in the whole "three sides to every story" theory, but when it's just your side and a bunch of people on the other side telling the same story about you, it kinda makes me think
Jerry could be telling the truth when he said he did not steal money from the members of NWA. Artists in ruthless signed slave deals so as long as Jerry/Eazy pays Dre, Cube, Ren, D.O.C. their pittance in accordance to the contract then Jerry and Eazy did not steal, they merely exploited their artists.
Ice cube didn't have money because he wasn't signed into a share of NWA until Jerry illegally tried to sign him without letting him even reading the papers or letting him show his lawyer. That's probably why he lived with his parents
LMAO !!!!! ROTFL !!!!! I laugh when I hear that Ice Cube was jealous of Eazy-E because I know that's SIMPLY not true especially since Ice Cube wrote all of Eazy-E lyrics and Ice Cube's verses are among the most memorable in the group in which fans sung with them every night when they toured in 1989 so Jerry needs to have several seats this is a classic of industry bullshit.....as Yella said, they were young and didn't know about contracts so you know what happens when that factor is involved....this is why the industry likes them young because the young is the most easiest to manipulate especially if they are from the hood and grew up in poverty & have no knowledge of contracts.... Dr Dre: "When Ice Cube left, we were foolishly looking at him like he was turning his back on the group & being a traitor. Cube turned out to be the smartest one in the group when he made that decision not to sign that contract for the $75,000 check".......why ? because after N.W.A's 2nd album, Dre started noticing that his checks were getting light too.....it's called waking up.....LEARN THE BUSINESS !! The Music Business is 10% Music & 90% Business......Dre & Cube simply knew their worth and took control before it was too late
@@erwinorellano34 absolutely racism. black people in america have a strange problem with old white men - i wonder exactly what age is it that scares them? 50? 60? 70? do they need prune skin blotches first how old is too old for a white guy? what age does a white man become truly old & evil?
no vaseline is still affecting him huh?
hahhaahahahahaha Yup!
Lol I agree too lol
They took it down :(
+Dizzy Blu well when you sing a song about killing someone why wouldn't you
+Redmantiger
From where
Ice Cube saw right through Jerry Heller. He was was the smart one to get away. Dr. Dre caught on later. Plain & simple. But much respect to Eazy-E for helping to bring this music to the forefront. Without Eazy's push, we wouldn't know about N.W.A.
ERIC EPPS they ALL caught up to Jerry's game eventually
ERIC EPPS Without this old dude, we wouldn't know about Cube, Dre, or E. The movie was great but it was Ice Cube's version of the story, no one else's, and should not be taken as the only truth. According to the movie, Cube was the smartest, the one with talent, the one who knew not to sign a contract... but smashed up an office with a bat to get royalties he thought he was owed, which (in the movie) was a brilliant move. Reality was more than slightly different.
ERIC EPPS everybody in the Industry has fucked up deals. It wasn't only NWA.
Guns N Roses went through the same shit, Axel Rose ended up taking the lions share of the income and bought the naming rights. Prince had a shittier deal because Prince wrote his lyrics, played guitar and produced his own shit.
Yeah, 95% of artists and bands today have Shitty deals... the only people that are getting Great Deals are artists that write their own music and can do live shows...
and own their own labels or are signed to a Indie Label.
If your signed to Universal, Warner, etc... your getting fucked at this moment.
You all have excellent points. To be in the music & film industry, you have to literally "sell your soul" in a sense...... Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'm happy for the success of the "Straight Outta Compton" movie, for the original members of N.W.A. can be compensated and today's rap audience can hear other music besides "trap rap" & watered down pop......
+sparklemotion101 they were established and existed for at least 1 album+ before jerry heller even got involved. he had nothing to do with the creation of NWA or their original record deal.
Damn, heller really hates Cube. Give Cube some credits instead of talking shit about him on something that happened 20 years ago. Ice Cube is the reason Eazy-E started rapping and Ice Cube wrote most of the lyrics in N.W.A
+Kristian Ghosts THE OLD MANS HATE CUBE CAUSE HE LITE THE FIRE UNDER THEIR ASS (RUTHLESS RECORDS) AND THE FLAMES GOT TO BIG FOR THEM TO HANDLE!! THE YOUNGEST IN THE GROUP WAS THE SMARTEST WITH THE INTEGRIT! IF CUBE DIDNT PUT IT OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE THEY WOULDVE MADE EVEN MORE MILLIONS!
+Janiel Bedminster Yes I know, but why didn't Heller just embrace Cube and cared for him just like he did for Eazy-E. N.W.A would've stayed together alot longer if only Jerry could've been fair with everyone not only with EazyE, ofc someone (Cube) will get ''jealous'' of that cause its unfair for him and the others.
Seamus Mcdonald youre a funny guy to Assume thats where i got my info from!!! LoL!! You might as well say that THEY ALL had a Conspiracy against Heller!!
Lol!!! A Real Life N.W.A.!
D.o.c wrote for eazy and dre,ren wrote for himself and cube wrote for himself,cube writing is exaggerated
omfgg his voice is just like the actor that played him in soc
Ikr
yeah man. All the actors have. Great movie
Yeah Paul Giamatti did an excellent job at portraying that lying piece of shit. I think they all did very well in their roles. I definitely wasn't expecting it to be as great of a movie as it was regardless of how interesting the story actually is or how much of a fan of them I was/am since I was a kid. In a time where you have to be skeptical about how most movies and projects are going to turn out because so much of it is shit, I was very glad that they took the effort to make the movie right and I definitely think it deserved the Oscar it was nominated for.
TheEverydayGamer all the actors were on point it was a great movie.
NO SHIT ❓ But Isn't it the other way around 🤔
ICE CUBE never got arrested. He became a boss, was the only smart one out of the group not to sign a dumbazz contract, he paved his own way and won doing it. U can't get more gangsta than that.
Man stfu dumb ass. You got that bullshit from that stupid ass movie
Roshan Mathew on god
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@@roshanmathew92 the story been told way before the movie
@@roshanmathew92 dam man who hurt you? You white?
Why the hell is Stan Lee talking about N.W.A?
He does kinda look like him lol
+jj chapoteau 9 time NWA champion Ric Flair.
+Malik Sucks Ass lmfao!!!!😂😂😂 YEAH!!!!
lmao
+jj chapoteau That's hilarious...
Glad you said that about The D.O.C. I always say that his car crash is one of the biggest tragedies in hip-hop. He was about to be a hip-hop MEGA STAR if he could have had a 2nd album in his prime.
personally i think suge fucked him up and just blamed in on a car accident
+tyrel schultz no bro a friend of mine was a bodyguard for death row. Suge was really fucked
I always said Ren was on another level and that nothing to take away from cube (he shown he was a great overall product) but Ren was more versatile and advanced with the flow. If he found more relatable subject matter to drop during his early part of his solo career he could have been huge
+jay W Agreed. I always thought MC Ren was incredibly underrated. He was honestly my fav in the group. From his flow, to his voice, to his lyrics, he was just as good as Cube if not better imo.
@@justiceblackwolf369 His car crash was in '89.. no suge
In my opinion Jerry heller was the best rapper in nwa, ice cube was hard but damn jerry could spit like a machine gun. Jerry is the most underated rapper of all time, his album " I'm cumming for Jew niggaz" was the best diss album of all time. That's just my opinion
LOL
he wasn't a fucking rapper
FuckPunkers; Haha! That was funny as hell!
Mr money Smith shut ur bitch ass up nigga
u won the internet
Hearing this interview with Jerry makes me see how well Paul Giamatti did while playing Jerry in Straight Outta Compton
I dont believe anything this man is saying
+C Sanders no one cares
Good and fuck anyone who does
@@goodonyahmate-1160 fuck you bitch
I dont either he had easy killed
@Nugget 1.0 Its actually a theory that goes around. I think it is kind of a stretch but it is still a theory
Jerry Heller & Suge Knight Ruined Ruthless Records & Death Row Records!!
BruffDaddy 😭😭
BruffDaddy faxx
And killed Eazy E
@@CharlieAUSWHAT? TELL ME MORE PLS
@@ILOVESPAMNUKEit’s not confirmed but it’s speculated. People think suge knight injected Easy E with AIDS
Cube didn’t claim Jerry to be stealing he said he was manipulating them into signing bogus ass contracts that weren’t advantageous to them. Jerry knew what Cube was talking bout.
YOU'RE FIRED, JERRY
"Its impossible to steal money in the recording industry..." pft! yeah, ok Jerry.
no it's not stealing if you signed a stupid contracts. ice cube realised he will make more money going solo and the first nwa album put him on the map.
Still doesn't mean u cannot reap ur own benefits between the thin white lines bc Jerry heller lined them pockets with nwa no doubt
He's still breathing and lying.
Record labels always steal or profit from artist's it's almost impossible to remain independent and when a label offers you X amount for like say 5 albums they try get their money back and then some, when some artists are worth more than the deal they took.
@@one_up907how do you know sherlock
Nobody is claiming Jerry stole money, they are claiming they didn't get paid what they are owed. Nobody says a C.E.O who makes 300x his employee is stealing money. Jerry still doesn't get it after all these years.
he actually was stealing from Eazy... why he fired him
I think he definitely took advantage of E. He knew a lot more about business than Eazy did. There's no way he stole anything, but the contracts probably benefited him.
@@rightcoast7049 it is stealing in a way when eazy essentially traded his time and effort for money and didn’t get the money he was promised. But yeah he definitely took advantage
I think he did get it, but was just deflecting
@@timeshaellis5203 Bullshit, go watch dre and cube SoC movie more gtfo clown
I'm hella weak from some of these comments. I not going to disrespect my elders but I will say this without Ice Cube it would not be N.W.A. Jerry used Eazy E bottomline. Love Ice Cube
Facts on facts.
Asali's TV “Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say, hail to the …” Easy E….We needed Ice Cube to bring the lyrics and the magic to the group. Too bad they could not have worked it out. They could have put out 10 more great albums. What could have been, and what we missed is a fukin bummer.
Asali's TV Hate to say it but without Heller there would be no NWA. They used each other initially. Eazy needed a white guy with connections to break into the industry. His mistake was in not cutting him loose when his dodgy contracts started to break up the crew.
Adam Frost I have have been an NWA fan from day one. Their story is complex. Not sue if Heller broke up the band, but I respect your Opinion…be cool
+dirtypimpbird at least someone has an intelligent opinion.
Ice Cube came from a good home! Married his beautiful wife and raised his children well.
Because that what he saw in his household . Two of his parent married ,raised in a structural household that why he wasn't allowed to leave the house early and running around sexing all kinds of women . I believe he had a curfew
+SayconTalks The guy is still married to the same lady, not many people can say that let alone artist who have like 4 marriages.
@@ivan199120 dang.... that marriage is older than me
People watch straight outta Compton and think they know everything now lmao.
Dre set up eazy
Raider Hazard bruh this man lied about some shit 30 years ago until he died. Classic Jew
So? I’m sick of bullshit people talking shit about people are fan of nwa cause of straight outta Compton, well you’re not born knowing everything eventually you will learn stuff, I didn’t even know that ice cube was a rapper before watching straight outta Compton, then I learned about crips and bloods, eazy e being real og and hustler, so I learned things and dig more into it
Are you believing the shit Jerry Heller talking???
@@baxterferguson7857 I guess you arent racist right
Lmao he avoided using the picture of NWA with ice cube because he knew ice cube would legally come for his head.😂😂😂😂
Ice Cube comes for all friends present or former lol, clown
lol never thought of that haha
Eazy had no beef with Jerry because he was the only one in the group getting paid
He fired jerry before he died because he found out jerry was stealing from him.
Eazy was the only one in the group getting paid??? Because, he fuckin financed everything and started Ruthless records and owned it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rip 🙏 Eric Wright
@@kevinchandler179 and fucked his Homies over
Didn't they all make millions?
@@behonestwithyourself3718Jerry Heller was taking majority of it, which is the reason why Ice cube left the group. Then later on Dre for the same reason.
Jerry Heller is what we call a typical Record label owner back in the day, if you watch the movie Cadillac Records this is just how they roll. Jerry isn't lying, he just doesn't think what he's doing is stealing, he's using and old business model where the artist always end up broke. The nobody sued me thing is funny because these are street guys they only know one way. If they use that way they end up in prison and Jerry knows that so he's being intellectually dishonest.
you people are fucking ridiculous
as if "street guys" know how to file a lawsuit ... as if theres no people behind bars who learned the law and defended themselves
youre intellectually lazy if you dont learn the laws of the business you enter
I agree with this.
But we know he dealt with others who where not black so how is that example valid whatsoever when he is references non-afro Americans?
😂😂😂😂😂 jooish deception
Nah he stole period point blank and the only
One he was fooling was eazy cube caught on and he was smart it took dre awhile but he eventually caught on was well but nobody was trying to hear it
Paul Giamatti is a great actor. He had him nailed. You can stop watching and just listen to Heller's voice and you hear Giamatti in Straight Outta Compton.
That's some true shit
method acting
NWA ain't shit without Ice Cube ah,ha!!!!!!!
+Boost they were quoting the intro of Ice Cube's no Vaseline (NWA diss)
***** ..here's what they think about ya.......
+milesdevlon I was just listening to that!!!!! WOW True to The Game and No Vaseline
yep
True they had dre tho
This interview is terrible. You didn't challenge him on one of his claims. What do you mean "it's impossible to steal money in the music business"...You let him get away with saying that nonsense. It's absolutely possible!!
Nbs
@@lizagomez1128 Nbs? Thats all you can say is nibs?
It's not terrible, this is an interview, not a debate.
@@HipHop-rn5sj What are ya crying about?
Jerry Heller talking about "everyone made so much money, why would I steal?" Then goes on to talk about how rich Cube and Dre are....but the stuff he references are projects that Cube and Dre got themselves, long after NWA. he's trying to act like Dre making millions off 'Beats by Dre' negates missing money from NWA. Comes across as a sleight of hand trick.
Am I wrong about this? Someone who knows the story better than I do, feel free to tell me if I'm wrong, cause Heller sounds shady af to me.
***** well, what they're talking about is money that Jerry Heller allegedly kept Dre and the others from receiving back in the NWA days. Yeah, Dre is definitely wealthy now, but they're talking about way back in the beginning and whether or not they got even, fair payouts. You are right though- if Dre tried to ask him for money now, it would be ridiculous!
Exactly, the money hes talking about was later in time, didnt make much money with Jerry H. only FAME...
jenna your right and your on point and you'll did your homework you can have a point
+Mike Delgrosso at that time all genres of music had that issue not just hip hop
great perspective, on Point to me....
I think they just signed a terrible contract, but back then and to young people who didn't understand the shark infested waters of the music business it comes across as stealing.
I don't believe that Ice Cube was jealous of Easy E I just don't.
+Brooklynn “sexytnmami” Richards No doubt. EVERYONE signs bad contracts in the beginning. Ask TLC or Little Richard.
+yragcom1 It doesn't just happen in the music industry, as Hollywood is notorious for this kind of shady shit. I can't even list off all the rumors out there of writers/directors pulling guns on themselves or on studio execs in an attempt to get a movie released
+Brooklynn “sexytnmami” Richards Every manager is same. Even Dr.Dre is doing the same to Kendrick and The Game
+Brooklynn “sexytnmami” Richards Right why would you be jealous of the man you made? Musically it didn't make sense and makes even less sense to say looking at what Cube stood on and did with his life.
+Rohan Singh I don't know about that DR Dre makes most of there beats he set his people up compared to most other managers. Em rose to fame from nothing 50 as well game is sticking with his Gangsta attitude it will only go so far.
He never denies he gave them bad deals. A bad deal is still legal. Getting or not getting sued is not proof of whether you're a crook or not.
Easy fired this dude..
He was fired from ruthless.
just sayin, Heller doesn't seem to mention that fairly important fact.
Straight Outta Compton is not a documentary! Dre and Cube co-produced the movie. Obviously, they'll make the people they hated look bad and make themselves look good. Why do you think you don't see Dre beating up women in the film?
+CarlHH777 By the way, I'm not defending Heller. I'm just saying it's not black and white (no pun intended).
+CarlHH777 but to be fair if you read the history behind it from all sides Jerry hella is a dodgy bloke and to me ice cubes story is the most believable
+CarlHH777 whats the story about him beating women?
Dre has been accused a few times of violence against women, most notably Dee Barnes (civil suit was settled out of court) and Michel'le. He even issued a statement a few weeks ago apologizing for it.
+CarlHH777 who cares?
Jerry: each guy wrote their own lyrics
Eazy: Ice Cube writes rhymes that I say
He kept saying Cube was the youngest but he was the smart not to sell out to him. Cube didnt sign that contract, which he hates cuz he saw talent in Cube. He couldn't make more money off him
I love how everyone's getting mad cos' the new generation is just starting to listen to N.W.A., Because of the movie. Have you heard the music on the radio now? They saw the movie and fell in love with the history and music. WHY the fuck does everyone want to knock them for that? Okay...so you listened to them before they came out...congrats. The new generation is listening out for better music, and they found that with watching the movie. Let them learn. Chill out.
courtney jenson Respect for the word!
Exactly!!
People still gonna listen to the same bullshit they're putting out today...I get so much shit because the only hip hop I listen to is old school hip hop (and most recent, Kendrick) because I grew up on my dads tapes he had when he was young. This shit on the radio ain't fucking rap but the same people shaking there finger saying "young people don't know.." Are the same ones with that Watch me Nay Nay bullshit on they iPod playlist so don't trip.
Because we older folks are you are able to put Young Thug and 2 Pac in the same playlist
+courtney jenson It's a shame because I really do enjoy their music and old hip hop
ap, but everyone else is like:
"nope, you're a toxic hipster"
Fuck outta here.
the fact that he knows so well how much dre and cube earned already says it all
+urbanjunior word as if he contributed to that in anyway and detoured him from being a shyster
"You let a Jew break up my crew "" best lyrics of all time
I will say despite everything that this man has put the group through without Jerry this group will never be
The only person I believe is Ice Cube. Shame Eazy isnt still about for his clarification on where he stands on this
Ice Cube isn't the person to believe just cause he talks the most cause if u let Cube tell it he wrote all the songs which when u check the credits that's false
you got any evidence he ever claimed to write every NWA lyric prior to him leaving?
+Gary Nicholls the only evidence I have is Cube saying himself that he was writing everything
where? when?
+Gary Nicholls a few weeks ago on the breakfast club and he's said multiple times throughout his career. Cube is full of shit he felt he should have been getting as much money as Eazy but it was Eazy's company so of course he's gonna make more money also he always talk about the bad contract Jerry and Eazy tried to get him to sign but never talk about the way he fucked the artist that were signed to him
Dre didn't write most of the lyrics! Cube, Ren, and D.O.C wrote most of the music! Stop lying Jerry!!
Fr 😂
Ice cube was da mutha Fukin core of nwa
+Night No he wasn't you fucking idiot. Dre & Yella was the Core. Without Dre and Yella who else would of doing the beats?
+Leroy here's how NWA was made up: Cube, Ren, and D.O.C were the brains, Dre and Yella were the backbone, and Eazy-E was the character
+Andrae Coleman Can't disagree with that...
"Ice Cube writes the rhymes, that I say..." - How did Cube NOT write Eazy's rhymes when that's an ACTUAL EAZY E LYRIC!?!?!
doc and ren wrote more dumbass
@@TemporaryInsane still don't change the fact Ice Cube wrote some of his rhymes dumb ass
Well I mean doesn’t that negate your point. If eazy is saying Dre writes it , couldn’t eazy have possibly written that?
Full of trolls, troll Express on here
R.I.P Jerry Heller, some people agree that you did some bad shit, but we can all agree that you still looked after NWA and at least put the members in a better place than when they were struggling.
Speak for yourself ... N.w.a would have found a way without Heller
Vine Swim I am speaking for myself.
then talk to yoy damn self with yo opinions.
Dre and Cube are entrepreneurial. The would have certainly made it on their own.
I highly doubt that. Not around the time of the formation of NWA.
Ice Cube was the most strategically smart one of the time
He lost me when he said its impossible to steal money
"guys sittin in our office with Uzis 24 hours a day" 😂
*You can't steal when its already in the contract to get robbed*
I see why Cube wrote no vaseline😂
“Ice Cube writes rhymes, that I say”. Eazy.
yes cause he was eazy employee
Rip 🙏 Eric Wright, and truth is all of them were employed by Eazy, because he financed everything and started Ruthless records!!!!!
Jerry was a crook plain and simple. That group sold a ton of albums and went on multiple tours but yet Cube was still living at his moms house. That shit makes no sense. Jerry was robbin NWA
He didn't steal shit. He helped take Ruthless to the next level. I'm not just trying to defend him. People just jump to conclusions with no facts. It's not like he bullied his way into Ruthless. Eazy E brought him on.
@rightcoast7049 Oh so you were there? Did you read through the group members’ contracts, what were the terms like? You weren’t so you don’t know. Furthermore you think stealing via a bad contract isn’t evil? Kind of like the government stole land from the Natives time and time and time and time again? Oh but they signed a piece of paper so we’re all good right? Fair deal? Reading your thoughts is like stepping in dog crap I just had to scrap it off.
"He didn't hang out with us" when an 80 year old man says HANG OUT.Kill me please
Awesome interview! I love hip-hop history lessons, I love hearing it from the folks that were around it.
SayconTalks this aint no lesson, this is a devil lying about how he didnt steal money when he did
+KingNoCrownn Of course. You were there- how could we forget?
+Randall Rowberry I was there, I promise you! How did you miss me in the Straight Outta Compton movie?
If it was ALL GOOD why did Easy E end the business relationship?
*Eazy E
Eazy felt Jerry was like a father to him. It was more on a personal level. Cold 187um explained in one of his interviews that if Eazy had been more a seasonal owner, he would've got rid of Jerry before Cube left.
+YEZ I did! look up Cold 187um's interview with Vlad! He's been around Eazy-E before he left Ruthless
Florenzo Cribbs Because Jerry was screwing him over and confessed that “it was just business” between them and money wise, that’s why Eazy ended it and fired him
DJ Youngster nice movie logic
he sounds just like the jerry from straight outta Compton! lmao
naw the jerry from straight outta compton sounds like him
We studied this case in school when I studied music business and film. What NWA actually claimed Jerry stole was actually money they owed. They were spending money before they even earned it. For example. If I gave you a two million dollar budget to create an album as advance, i expect you to pay back that 2 million dollars after the sales of the album has passed - to recuperate what i had lost in investing on the production of your album. Now - most rappers have a tendency to touch that advance money / album budget and usually start blurring the lines between an advance - and revenue. Now the revenue is actually what the rappers can take home and START spending. So when they did the math of their album sales and thought they were getting less than what they were supposed to they started thinking Jerry stole that amount from them - when in reality the amount that was taken from them was actually the amount given to them to MAKE the album PLUS other expenses like (CHAINS, LAMBORGHINIS, ESCORTS, DRUGS, CLOTHES, ETC.) Just thought I'd let some kids know this since I see a lot of youth entering the entertainment business and it's easy to get jerked if you don't know how it works.
So technically they just set you up for failure without them explaining to you the game, Fool me once Shams on you Fool me Twice shame on me, Except Ice Cube Since he didn't sign a contract.
@@emotionlessthoughts6521yes that is how loans work. If you don’t know then you’ll be taken advantage of. It’s all written in the contracts
Ice Cube made this Jew feel some type of way.
Straight up sincere crook!! Labels have been robbing artist for decades..
no, artists have been stupid and near sighted for decades and they think a million dollar advance is a lot of money, when in reality thats enough to fund your career for about 2 years .
after one hit song if you dont produce yourself and own your masters, youre going to go broke. especially if you life a live you cant actually afford
its the fault of who ever makes the bad deal. not the "old white men" or "da jewz"
Too many people on here that watched Straight Outa Compton and now they know it all and are now the biggest fans since "back in the day" 😂
does anybody know what song is playing under this interview? I cannot remember to save my life.
Pete Rock and CL Smooth - They reminisce over you (T.R.O.Y.)
Bless you! 🙏🏽 it was stuck in my head for the longest.
Ice Cube diss and their reaction was the best bit of the movie.
Kinda made every make sense, still happening today, look at kanye
This guy says Ice Cube wasn't a "street guy"....lmfao
Ice Cube was bused to white schools, something you can see in the movie
He wasnt.Everybody in L.A. knows Cube was never a street G
He wasnt a street guy because he is smart he wanted to be an architect. The reason why he became a rapper because they were just making songs for fun and they didnt expect there songs to blow up.
It's not about whether or not Ice Cube was "street"....my comment is on THIS guy determining what is "street" and what isn't...
Not tryin' to be funny but did Heller have some gay feelin's over Eazy? Did he get mad cause Cube and Dre exposed him over the truth?
Lonzo said when Heller first met Dre and Eazy to sign a deal he lost his nuts.
YEs Dre is a billioaire... the talent this guy haves!
Just because Easy E never spoke bad about him doesn't mean he hated him. He just didn't want to do business with him any longer.
*Eazy
Nah I think easy was pretty fucking upset lol I'm struggling to tell if you actually know what happened or? Cos he lost his closest friends, thought he was getting something out of the work he was doing but he wasn't getting shit and only got more and more stressed and more and more sick. He lost almost everything. And you really wanna undermine the situation like that? Dude, your too much of an optimist lol
+Aziza Kas you may be right but he's not here to give his side of the details. Everyone has their own perspective of what happened back then and we know everyone perceive things differently. The movie pointed out a lot of details but it was also made to suit Hollywood and wasn't all facts. As far as this man speaking I don't care to hear anymore of what he's speaking.
+sogoode237 Btw I'm not undermining the situation, I'm not an optimist, I am a realist but most of all I'm not a dude. I'm all woman!
+sogoode237 oh yeah I'm definitely a realist too. Reason why I'm basing my opinion off human nature. You go through all that shit and you don't think less of a man? Nah. Hate is a strong word, that is true, maybe strongly disliked? But then again unlike other people who use the word hate lightly, he has more than a valid reason to use it. I just think that the people who have more of a day having been closer to the situation, are the story tellers, because I realise I'm a stranger. So if those closest to him say one thing I won't say the other. There's room for possibilities but i wouldn't have it as a solid opinion of you get what I mean?
12:40 this dude dropped the word and nobody flinched Dafuq
8:00 Lol is he saying that Ice Cube is a studio gangster?
Even though heller did some odd funky business, you have to admit he made an artist realize and transformed the music genre. Especially with Ice cube and dr.dre
I approached this with an open mind figuring there's two sides to this. This dude's such a weasel and full of double standards. I feel sick at the thought of how he's able to convince himself he's the victim here.
The NWA guys realised they were getting a raw deal and he's still in denial about it.
He really hates Ice Cube; probably because he was right about Jerry. He is even trying to discredit his writing of songs for the group. The days of cheating artists is not over, but it is harder because of technology and because of smart informed artists.
Notice how jerry knows straight away how much money other people are making even when jerry isn't even involved.
Shots fired! "Ice Cube wasn't really a street guy"
Dam right, he was still in school.
RIP Eazy e your the best
You're*
+BUBBA DECBEF chill
Why is nobody talking about Jerry dropping the hard R at 12:30. I know he’s quoting Dre but goddamn
Thought I was playing Madden 12 for a second that music in the background brings back so much memories
12:32 pretty hard r there mr. Heller
Dang, Paul Giamatti nailed him. Oscar nod should be coming for him.
imagine if easy was alive today. how much could shit could heller actually talk then?
Why Easy dead and we still got Jerry Heller smh
Suge killed easy by W keg tong aids blood into him
Next to David geffen does not come ruthless records. Jimmy iovine and inter scope would like to say hi
My nerdy ass sees the word fallout and I clicked on this shit fast as hell. I wasn't disappointed tho
"Ice Cube write the rhyme's that I say" .
+DJ NEEDLES thank you my brother its crazy how eazy says it in a song and jerry trying to tell us he didnt
From 8 ball I believe
Jerry Heller is a Straight G!
Jerry Heller learned from the old Motown executives
Whoa, talking about D.O.C.! All this sure brings back a lot of memories!
Excellent channel, i will check back
in the late 80's they didnt have computers like that
old comment but the wealthy did. You'd need about $2500 to get one that was really little more than a digital word processor. Funny to look back at now. Hilarious, really.
Cube was the original godfather of gangster rap. He wrote all the songs he wrote all of eazy shit in the early years. NWA needed cube more than he needed them. Dre was the music guy and cube was the main writer of the group. Without his rhymes n bars it would never have worked. Ren was okay but him and yella I feel just kinda tagged along. Dre's beats cubes lyrics and eazy"s voice n money was all that was ever needed. cubes lyrics made the biggest impact for the group Idk if he was getting ripped off for real but I don't feel like cube has any reason to lie about it. N if Dre eventually left for the same reasons then something must have been going on. There's no smoke without 🔥
Shut up. Ice cube was broke or didn't want to invest his own money...EAZY E TOOK THE RISK...THEREFORE EAZY E WAS THE BOSS...AND STILL IS THE GOD FATHER OF GANGSTER RAP...FOH
Without Jerry NWA probably never would've been heard outside of their hood so props to Him for that but like all managers he played fast and loose with their money
In Dallas/fort worth we used to get underground music from Cali back then
when a old man like jerry heller talks n.w.a it makes it sound like all this went down in the 60s
I believe in the whole "three sides to every story" theory, but when it's just your side and a bunch of people on the other side telling the same story about you, it kinda makes me think
Jerry could be telling the truth when he said he did not steal money from the members of NWA. Artists in ruthless signed slave deals so as long as Jerry/Eazy pays Dre, Cube, Ren, D.O.C. their pittance in accordance to the contract then Jerry and Eazy did not steal, they merely exploited their artists.
Ice cube didn't have money because he wasn't signed into a share of NWA until Jerry illegally tried to sign him without letting him even reading the papers or letting him show his lawyer. That's probably why he lived with his parents
LMAO !!!!! ROTFL !!!!! I laugh when I hear that Ice Cube was jealous of Eazy-E because I know that's SIMPLY not true especially since Ice Cube wrote all of Eazy-E lyrics and Ice Cube's verses are among the most memorable in the group in which fans sung with them every night when they toured in 1989 so Jerry needs to have several seats
this is a classic of industry bullshit.....as Yella said, they were young and didn't know about contracts so you know what happens when that factor is involved....this is why the industry likes them young because the young is the most easiest to manipulate especially if they are from the hood and grew up in poverty & have no knowledge of contracts....
Dr Dre: "When Ice Cube left, we were foolishly looking at him like he was turning his back on the group & being a traitor. Cube turned out to be the smartest one in the group when he made that decision not to sign that contract for the $75,000 check".......why ? because after N.W.A's 2nd album, Dre started noticing that his checks were getting light too.....it's called waking up.....LEARN THE BUSINESS !! The Music Business is 10% Music & 90% Business......Dre & Cube simply knew their worth and took control before it was too late
Ey guy, it doesnt matter wich side is right, we cant forget that NWA maybe never got a chance without Jerry Heller.
"You picked the wrong nigga Jerry" IM DEAD
If he didn't then why did he keep downgrading houses
You watching HBO?
+Collective State TV lol as we speak, Jerry is a good man to a certain extent. I wouldn't call him a down right snake though
That was added to the movie but not true. Eazy never stopped getting money he had numerous acts under him.
+Ashley Dixon it blew me away just how articulate and sharp he was.
Oh ok Eazy fired you because he liked you so they could get back together
for some odd reason i cant believe this dude
Because you are racist? EZ trusted him.
@@erwinorellano34 absolutely racism. black people in america have a strange problem with old white men -
i wonder exactly what age is it that scares them? 50? 60? 70? do they need prune skin blotches first
how old is too old for a white guy? what age does a white man become truly old & evil?
S†EPFΔM STUDiO 70 is too old for any guy
Damn.. Paul Giamatti nailed it!
I'll buy this book. He is honest man.
I was never afraid of Jerry.
He was actually an option.
R.I.P. Jerry Heller
1940-2016
MrCG64 Gaming i piss on his grave everyday, it started to grown flowers
Ice Cube was smart to leave he's no yes man. Ruthless went to the dogs after Cube left. And then Dre left!
Jerry Heller is an OG
whoa!!!! Jerry mentioned the Cant Stop Wont Stop book
Happier time? That was the height of #Los Angeles #Gang #Banging!