The All Stars Problem - Total Drama & Disventure Camp analysis
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I have a problem with All Stars. But it may not be the problem you think. Total Drama and Disventure Camp both commit an All-Star sin that we dive into with this analysis.
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“Disventure Camp: Race to Miriam’s Funeral”
NOT AGAIN
- Jake
BAHAHHAHAHAHAH
This made air come out of my nose slightly faster then normal
"Disventure Camp: Fiore gets hit by a bus and effing dies" I CANNOT 😭😭😭
I honestly just felt bad for her
LOL
And Also no one…….”Disventure camp: Race to Miriam’s Funeral.
HONESTLY IT’S THE BEST NAME FOR ALL STARS
AND “Disventure Camp:Race to Miriam’s funeral”
"Disventure Camp: Race To Miriam's Funeral" got me on the floor like Fiore after being hit my a bus
Jake lost another one
"OMG HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW DISVENTURE CAMP SEASON! It's called Disventure Camp Hay Fever Pills!!! 😍😍😍"
Yeah I have I love the cast
Will
Nick
Ashley
Dan
Gabby
Grett
Jake
Fiore
Miriam
Karol
Connor
Yul
Hunter
Riya
And teams
Pink team
Will
Ashley
Grett
Jake
Karol
Hunter
Riya
Blue team
Nick
Dan
Gabby
Fiore
Miriam
Connor
Yul
And the elimination order is OK
Ep 1 n/e
Ep 2 Gabby
Ep 3 miriam
Ep 4 riya
Ep 5 grett
Ep 6 jake
Ep 7 yul and will swap teams
Ep 8 fiore
Ep 9 Connor
Ep 10 Nick
Merge
Ep 11 will and dan
Ep 12 yul
Ep 13 karol
Ep 13 Ashley
Winner Hunter
I think reality shows "All stars curse" hits even animated ones
Except Big Brother All-Stars 1, it managed to surpass the curse.
"Disventure Camp: Race to Miriam's funeral" is WILD😭
Disventure Camp: Race to Miriam's funeral was funny lol!
Disventure camp: Rematch actually sounds pretty good imo
I agree with the whole “too soon” problem. Especially, I think they’re doing the entire concept way too early. Having a veteran crossover season is fine, but All-Stars is a massive title that you’d think would want to be saved when there’s a much larger pool of iconic players to pick between. You could make it an event, but right now it’s just another season. Plus, if you waited longer, you also might have time to explore underrated characters like Lill or Nick who have the potential to become All-Stars, much more than Ashley does anyway
Lil and Nick where in the Beta Merge while ONC did Ashley out out in Both Versions Dirty, she could have gone far but no!!!
ikr same
I 💯 percent agree what u said Total Drama had All stars season 5 and DC Season 3 That’s way too early big brother had theirs at Season 6 idk why Competition shows kinda be A little impulsive with All stars season All Stars mean All Stars they should wait until Like Season 8-10 Like Survivor they had theirs at 8 which time timing was ok cause it wasn’t too early or too late
@@Geraldcool16 It was in the 7th edition, close to Survivor which it was on its 8th.
"THIS IS JUST AN ALL SEASON BUT THEY FORGET A COUPLE"
Love that
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Hey Billy!. Do you know if Rosa Maria was originally supposed to be in the old all stars cast for DC?
I'm gonna start referring to the beta season as disventure camp: fiore gets hit by a bus and effing dies
Disventure Camp Clash of the Casts would be awesome. Then we would see how the season 2 players compete against the season 1 cast
6:47 I NEVER KNEW YOU SUGGESTED THAT LOLLL I LOVE THAT LINE TYSM FOR DOING THAT
Contestants only need one season to be invited back for an all stars season, specially considering their inspiration with Survivor. But I do agree that it was way too early, we need more than a pool of 28 people for a 18-person cast. In Total Drama's case it's even more unbalanced since most of those people returned every season anyway, so what's so different about their 4th appearance?
May i suggest "Disventure Camp: Tess STILL lacks strategy" as a replacement title?
lmao very good suggestion
Yeah tess has done nothing in all stars other then being Rosa Maria 2.0
I agree on the fact She ain't top player but that episode was gold. She reached that decision Because She seen Ellie behavior progress and *change* during the day (Ellie trying to find the idol, not wanting to confront Gabby and then the final push when She seen her friend be confrontational when Aiden was trying to talk to her regarding who to vote. If She didn't see that, Tess would've likely voted for Aiden. And We only hear Ellie confirm her affection to Gabby *after* her own elimination. At That point She lost the game. She's out. She could Say that, because It got nothing else in the way. But It isn't granted She Would've Sayed the same thing and considered Gabby more important Than win while playing). Aiden too his behavior is of Someone who know it screwed up at the challenge. Is like in the talent show in the First season of TD when Bridgette vomited on the stage and made a mess. When Harold save the day She Embrace him alongside Courtney but She did It Because She knew otherwise What would happen (She would Have been the one sent home). . It isn't about strategy is about humanity. Create believable characters is this. Otherwise You make them all cold and analytical and It become a chess tournament.
@@fnaforigins1490Rosa Maria was so much better than her
@@spongebob1369 yeah
"Disventure Camp 3 and Knuckles" is yet another lawsuit waiting to happen 😭
9:40 Will joins and Miriam doesn’t!?!
Disventure Camp: Reloaded
Disventure Camp: Return to the camp
DC: Buffalo Chicken 🤣😂😂😂
DC: Bigger, Better, Campier!!
But out of all of them ,
DC: Race to Miriam's funeral will forever be WILD!
All-Stars was not made by Total Drama, it has been a thing forever including in the Survivor reality show. They're taking ideas from THEM now and not so much with Total Drama, Survivor also has All-Stars seasons with people who only participated in one season cause obviously there are too many seasons so bringing the same cast over and over doesn't work but it does in the TD style.
I do agree that the name should've been different. I know that Will was supposed to be the one to come back and he could've gotten some major development since his fears are now gone and his dynamic with Ashley and Fiore would've been much more interesring than James whom already won a season so good point
Survivor All Stars had the same problem as Total Drama All-Stars in fact, it almost ended returnee seasons for Survivor as Jeff Probst was too traumatized by the unpopularity and toxic enviroment of the first returnee season.
At least disventure camp did it right by making their all-stars the 3rd season
I actually think the All-Stars works better for disventure camp than for TD. TD, as you said, was the fifty season and therefore: many of the REAL all-stars had their story already developed before (Leshawna, Bridget, Owen, Beth?, etc) and thats why they weren’t on the series, because they had no story potential. But in Disventure Camp, is only the third season (and ALL characters have only been in one before) so their story potential is still huge and waiting to expand. There are few exceptions like Lake or James, but even then I think they could have added another arc for them. I dont think All-Stars name is a problem for Disventure, but dor TD definitely.
i agree!! DC feels like an all stars while TD didn't
The 13 episode limit did AS cast dirty. But you know, Fresh likes equal and balance
9:11 Dan’s an NPC, Karol is a rejoiner who was immediately eliminated, and Rosa Maria has a child to take care of
Pretty sure he means by who got further
@@ScottTD Even then, Rosa has quite literally no personality. Yul is a much better replacement
@@cormacmccarthy1889but its called all stars for a reason, if you are gonna use that logic then dont call it an all stars because it isnt, also isnt all stars meant to give storylines and personality to characters that didnt got them in their season? Like karol or dan
@@cormacmccarthy1889like what the other guy said.
If it's called all stars treat it like all stars.
Conner, Yul, and Ashley aren't all stars and could be replaced
Rosa Maria, Karol, and Dan.
All characters who benefit much more from screen time to flesh out their character.
There's also the problem of each cast only having only 1 season.
Dan would not be an all stars anyways, he was booted right next to Ashley. And Karol got LESS episodes (5) than Ashley did (6) (including the finale)
Rosa Maria was supposed to be invited but rejected, and although she could have been in the show, she would have been an early boot anyways. I understand Connor’s potential was kinda wasted, but he had more than Rosa, Karol and Dan combined.
All-stars shouldn’t be based on how far they reached, but on how many potential and iconic those characters were. Ashley, Connor and Yul have more potential and are more iconic than Dan and Karol (and have more potential than Rosa)
Yeah, when it comes to "All-Stars" The cast was always going to be a problem. With only one season's worth for each separate cast, characters with less importance were obviously going to be picked for the new cast. Should the current season of DC have not been a cross over? Of course it should have been a cross over, but instead maybe focus more on the eliminated contestants? Giving more elements to underutilized or further flesh out deep and interesting characters. I have plenty of gripes with DC as a whole, everyone has their picks and chooses for writing and story telling, but I will support Odd Nations because omg they are actually trying things and while they might not all land, at least they ARE trying.
-Hey! Have you seen the new disventure camp season
-No whats it called
-Oh its called Disventure Camp: Fiore gets hit by a bus and effing dies
-oh... SOUNDS INTRESTING
And Plot twist: Ashley is driving the bus….
I disagree that a person’s second appearance can not be an all star season. That’s literally how it is in shows like survivor and big brother. There are a couple of seasons then there’s All-Stars.Then they only bring back one or two people for a season. And that is their second appearance on the show. Mind you this can’t work for a show like disventure camp because if you make more seasons with new characters then for the All-Stars series you’re storylines and potential is limited to about 2-3 people per cast. Also with a cast like this it kinda has to be All-Stars. These are the most impactful and influential people from their season. Even then Ashley, Connor, and Yul were brought back for their amount of story potential they had. They were all apart of stories that were unfinished and they all had potential. Especially for an All-Stars cast. And say if you had kept on going and merging up the two casts in different seasons then once you finally reach All-Stars you’re not really gonna have any storylines left to do once you get there.
I agree with this
“Disventure Camp: Sue Me!” Sounds fire
10:39
I Really love the name (Disventure camp 3:return to the camp)💟✨
Clash of Casts wouldve hit so Hard
not as hard as that bus driving in on Fiore 🔥
9:02 I AM SO GLAD THAT IM NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS THIS! Look I love Connor, Ashley, and Yul but the fact none of them made the merge in their respective seasons always bothered me that they would be considered "All Stars" When Rose Maria, Karol (technically), and Dan did make the merge and look I know why they didn't make all stars. Im just glad that it seems like the character they did choose are getting the development they deserve (Except Connor I need justice for him) but I couldn't agree more with your reasoning of calling your respective season "All Stars" Amazing video as always Billy!
I don't think Dan made merge cause he was eliminated right before it, but he was still closer than others
“What’s your favorite Disventure Camp season?”
Me: “Disventure Camp All Season but they forgot a couple of people.”
Hopefully, we don't see a Disventure Camp: Fans vs. Favourites.
"incase your new here im trevors voice actor" WHAT I WAS SO SHOCKED
Person : "what are you watching?"
Me : "disventure camp buffalo chicken"
We NEED more analysis videos Billy! Love these!!! 🤩
For number one, I think that it isn’t too soon since the Revenge of the Island cast played one season. Number 3, probably extra screen time? And 4, out of the 27 contestants, I don’t think that it is too little of a cast
-this sillied my billy-
i mean thanks
I'LL MAKE... YOU SAY...
HOW PROUD...
YOU ARE OF ME!
SO STAY...
AWAKE...
JUST LONG...
ENOUGH TO SEE...
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I think they should have at least 2 or 4 more casts to choose from for who would be in a all star season. Only having 2 seasons worth of casts does not give you much to choose from
Good video. Alot of points i can agree with. Dont get how you consider Dan more of an All Star candidate over Yul when both placed 9th and one of them had a FAR bigger role then the other but other then that i cant help but agree!
9:32 WILL WAS AN ALL STAR CANDIDATE OVER MIRIAM?? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO WRONG
or Oliver over James, both equally terrible alternatives if you ask me
@@SillyBillyDucky we knew Oliver was going to be production before hand, as that was revealed by the S2 finale. Even so, Oliver competing in AS woulda been cursed
oh man "Disventure Camp 3: Telling others how to do their job until I'm fired" would have slap...But also I think an All-Star it's a character that impacted the audience a lot and not necessarily they were in the show a lot of episodes or seasons.
I agree with you on a couple of points. But mainly to this point: Having an all-star cast with only 2 generations worth of people. It’s just dumb.
i cant wait to hear what ur pitch was!!
Not gonna lie this is the most serious silly billy video ever😂
I personally think disventure camp all-stars was written very very well but the name all stars shouldn't have been in the name but I feel like making it season 3 gives it more development for both the og and 2nd season cast to either become better or become worse
Disventure Camp: Race to Miriam's Funeral !
💀
Wait you’re Trevor… how did you get the part? I don’t know how people get chosen to play a character in odd nation cartoons but i would have liked to try out aswell for possible future characters, but I don’t know how.
Redemption sounds like a better name for the season
Omg I love Disventure camp 3 and knuckles 😂😂😂.
But in all seriousness they should've named it Disventure camp redemption and made the season about people who go out too early or had an unfair elimination.
3:48 that’s true (me liking Cody for being Cody)
But TDAS, why not add Harold considering his rivalry with Duncan continued. Or Owen, who won the first season. For DCAS, Connor never made it to merge, but he’s in all stars (but I like Connor) and Yul needed to be replaced by Dan or Rosa Maria (in my opinion)
"DISVENTURE CAMP 2.45: SCREW LOGIC"
They should’ve called all stars “Colliding Cast” or “Cast Collision”
I can see your way of thinking about this because there definitely is a problem with all of the all stars variants and I’ll never like tdas tbh but I will say dcas is amazing so far. Race to Miriam’s funeral is insane tho lmfaooo!
Honestly some really valid points! All Stars as a title does carry greater expectations. And it does feel a little premature to do an All Stars season when you only have two casts to pull from. But then I also think back to the self insert survivor seasons I wrote back in high school about my classmates and how I made the third ever season a fans vs. favorites lol (All Stars was either season 6 or 7 iirc). So really who am I to say anything haha 😂
Yes. I can look you in the eye and say Ashley Yul and Connor deserve to be all stars
We see all the time in survivor they bring back premerge contestants, and still calls itself all stars. Season 8, Shii-Ann was voted out before the merge and brought back. Placement doesn’t define return chances. At least not in my eyes
Also I know how much you detest the all star brand lol and argue for certain characters returns, but all stars isn’t just about placements, it’s about the popularity to.
And listen I’m not speaking for Oddnations, but if the series did continue to grow, I could realistically see an “all stars 2” or something along those lines, something like that challenge does. I think they are on all stars 6 or 7. And bb did with bb22.
I don’t think the all stars title is as bad as your making it out to be, but I still respect your opinions!
ShiI-Ann's case... Survivor would never bring anyone from Thailand, the only worth person to go who made the merge would be Helen but they already had Kathy in her place. But I agree with you, placement does not matter in that type of show, if you are interesting, they willl want to bring you back even if you are like, a first boot.
Ashley does deserve to be in all stars
Story wise and game wise.
She only got voted out due to the red marker vote last season. Meaning she has only ever received 1 vote ever. (S1 and All Stars)
I wouldn't say the amount of votes is indicative of who should be an all star. If that was the case a lot of major characters would not be getting invites.
Remove Ashley from season 1 and the rebellion story of Lill versus Fiore plays out exactly the same. She lasts 4 or 5 episodes where she barely gets to explore any storylines of her own but is rather a pawn in other peoples' stories. Ashley doesn't get her own arc in this season.
There is an important distinction between thinking Ashley deserves a second chance (fully agree) and thinking she is an all star (fully disagree).
@@SillyBillyDucky see, this is the best part about predictions, if there was no red marker double elim
We wouldn’t know what the story would have had to offer for Ashley. Could’ve won, could’ve gone out next. The main point is she kinda went out unfairly (kinda)
Which is why in the original total drama I’m pissed that Leshawna didn’t get a chance to compete in all stars when she was clearly robbed and deserved another chance on the island to win it.
Sometime the all stars season includes people that have clear potential to win/be an all star but got cut short due to something unexpected.
(Which is why I love the idea of all stars, kinda like champs vs potential champs.) (Derek > Trevor) 🩵
All-Stars was my first season of the show. So it holds a special place in my heart. I do agree it has it's problems but I could never hate it.
I was actually thinking of a new cast for Disventure Camp after All-Stars and then thinking about what COULD BE the real Disventure Camp all-stars
I always thought that All-Stars could be better if it mixed all contestants from both casts, in Total Drama and in Disventure Camp
Redemption would’ve been a more fitting name for sure
Clash of the cats is ur best pitch sugestion
Okay now I am really curious which first boot they were considering casting and which winner they were gonna exclude. Great video as always! Can i suggest disventure camp: trevors groovy moves as a good season name?
It was probably will since Oliver was a host
Fair point
Survivor all star was the first survivor season with returning players so none them played multiple seasons before all star
All Stars becomes a problem because the production team decides to choose characters.
For example, the crew chose 7 characters from the original series and 7 characters from season 4 not only due to their strategies but their status.
I really love all stars, but it has problems and you can’t deny that! I just think it’s fun. I won’t ever say it’s good objectively though.
I like the „return to camp“ one! They should’ve used that one
AND RACE TO MIRIAMS FUNERAL IS CRAZY 💀🤣
While I do agree with some of your points on how just combining the previous to Cast with only one season under their belt is kinda odd and not worthy of all stars were as total drama all starts failed in even picking remotely any good characters to bring back disventure camp at least picks the best of the best so it does not feel wired but if your going to do all stars do it after like 7 or 9 seasons that way the cast becomes limited and you pick’s become harder
My favorite is definitely "Disventure Camp 3: Telling others how to do their job until I'm fired". It just has so much power behind it XD
Disventure Camp Buffalo Chicken 😂
Nice to see the goat, Trevor talk about All-Stars! I also agree, All-Stars had many... MANY flaws, like ruining Duncan and Gwen (who are one of my fav ships), dumbing down the characters to make Mal seem like a threat, etc., but I always considered All-Stars to be mediocre, rather than actually terrible. It wasn't good, but it is kinda overhated.
i was wondering, if i write a fanfic where the previous 6 seasons 3 finalists come back, is it a good all stars season
When i read Jensen's revenge i was thinking for about a minute who Jensen was
Sam was put in AS because he was easier to write around
#1 All Stars defender here!
It's easily my favorite season, and I'll just list some of my opinions on it.😁
1. Sundae Muddy Sundae might be my favorite episode of the season, and one of my favorites of the whole show.
2. Mal, while not the best villain, is the funniest and most fun one. I could quote his lines for days.
3. Sam deserves to be in All Stars over Dawn and B, guys, c'mon. Speaking of Sam, he's super underrated, he's Owen without the fart humor, which in my eyes, makes him better.
4. The finale is great, and with Mal being there, it's a great conflict.
5. *None. Of. The. Characters. Were. Dumbed. Down. For. Mal.*
6. Sierra, while the worst character of the season, isn't unbearable. She's fine, and also is definitely deserving of All Stars since she has a higher average than even Heather.
7. This is easily the funniest season, the first episode alone made me laugh about 20 times.
8. Love triangle was great this season. I actually like the love triange as a plot in the first place, and this is nice. Gwourtney's interactions were amazing for the short amount of time it lasted.
i wouldve loved if disventure camp all stars was called disventure camp bottle cap instead... *sighs* 🙁😔
yeah.. 😔
No matter what, at the end of the day, there is gonna be only one question.. After all stars there are gonna be more disventure camp seasons or not?
I think that merging two casts for All Stars is a good idea, but I think each cast should have two seasons each to develop enough to be considered All Stars, but not enough so that characters can be developed in All Stars.
It could've been called "Disventure camp Second chance"
I wish they had a season 3 with a different cast before doing an all stars season
your voice sounds so much like trevor from dcas 🙏😰
Because he is
OHHH.
I really think they should've just made an all new cast for at least season 3 before all-stars to widen the rage of potential returning players, really it's more of a too soon to do All-Stars because there is only 2 seasons to reference from and a very small pool of characters for such a large season. Not because we haven't seen these casts play again yet to get a more accurate reading on the best of the best.
Ashley definitely deserves the All-Star title. She was by far the strongest member of the 4-person Alliance, and would likely have gone far if it weren't for the double elimination. Plus she's decently popular in the fandom.
And like a majority of the All-Stars cast, she wasn't voted out by her team.
Her and Connor are the only members of All-Stars who didn't make it to Merge, but weren't voted out by their team. Ashley was eliminated by a special vote from the opposing team, and Connor quit (Yul could also be counted since he technically got medically evacuated, but he still got the most votes and would have been voted out regardless).
DC Rematch or Clash of the Cast should have been the name
I like this All-Stars better than Total Drama, but they could have merged the two cast for season 3 and then new casts another season followed by an All-stars with more to choose from.
HELP THIS IS SO FUNNY
Honestly with total drama, for me I would have liked to have the winners/runner ups for an "All-Star" cast, sure that only leaves you with Owen, Gwen, Beth, Duncan, Heater, Alejandro, Cameron and Lighting but it is with the "best of the best" branding, then just add in fan Favourites like Brick and Leshawna. As for Disventure, I agree, they shouldn't have called it All Stars, Total Drama had at least 4 seasons (3 which were 26 episodes). Overall that's my opinion and this was a great video on the topic of the "All Star" branding 😊
It doesn’t matter. People would be upset anyways. Calling it All Stars was a marketing move hopefully doesn’t lead to another lawsuit.
Disventure Camp: Bottle Cap is 🔥 🔥 🔥.
Please more videos but only of Total Drama❤
Yul is objectively more deserving of the All-star title than Karol. It's a fact.
Normally by this point this is when we say 'So what? Who cares? It doesn't matter!' and many people would suggest this is but another example of making a mountain out of a mole hill. But when we really take the time to think about it, I for one can understand where even a cast mate of Odd Nations is coming from.
If you're going to call this season an All-Star season, at least have the majority of the cast have already made it to the Merge with a majority still having much to prove (Even if again, there was no shot at having a previous winner winning the money for the second time). You get a majority from Season 1, that's fine. Then you get Season 2's cast and two of them are not even playing. You've got the fan favorite, Rosa Maria, even though she states 'why' she can't play and then there's Karen... okay she only got involved because she was a returning player (Not like she really accomplished much).
If we had to have non-merge contestants joining, assuming they too deserved something to prove, we could have just as easily contestants who came close to the Merge yet failed. But then we have Connor, who is already running a million-dollar company, and Ashley, who will always be my favorite and I am waiting for her moment to prove I was right to have faith in the cowgirl. I question the casting at times, I question how they are used... but I still like the season. Maybe the best hasn't come yet, and with 21 episodes there's bound to be some surprises in store. For now, I'd like you to know I understand.
All star casting could've been the top 3 of each season which would be...
I don't personally like it but they could include like fan favorites too, that's an excuse for a lot of good characters and revenge of the island characters.
1. Heather
2. Gwen
3. Owen
4. Duncan
5. Beth
6. Alejandro
7. Cody
8. Zoey
9. Cameron
10. Lightning
I believe that Dan and Karol would be better All Stars contestants. Prove me wrong.
Honestly I don't see the problem with it at all
Just look at real world reality shows
The definition of 'All Stars' has long been reduced to 'a cast made up of returning contestants'
Way before DC even existed
Disventure Camp Miriam's funeral 😂
uhhh "silly billy" ok *I'LL MAKE YOU SAY HOW PROUD YOU ARE OF ME SO STAY AWAKE JUST LONG ENOUGH TO SEE MY WAY*
(This comment is a bit lengthy, as I have a lot of thoughts about both TD and DC's All-Stars seasons, hope that's alright!) :)
Call this an unpopular opinion, but I feel that an All-Stars season can be *more* than the winners/best-performing players competing. Fan favorites and wild cards are also great choices as they can spice things up and give screen time to those that may not have gotten as much in the past. (And from a more realistic/practical point, not all players may be available to film a new season, and it just makes sense to go down a list when creating the lineup.) (This is currently speaking from just a reality TV standpoint, not just animated parodies.)
Total Drama
. With TD's All-Stars season, I'd have swapped some of the reoccurring characters out with ones that were fan favorites and/or characters that didn't get as far, but have proven they perform well in a competition. The cast for TDAS is honestly pretty bad, if you ask me. Most of characters have gotten *way* too much screen time for the sole reason that the writers didn't flesh out other characters enough or because they're a writer's pet. (Sam and Duncan are prime examples of this.)
. While I'm glad the ROTI cast got a bit more focus, I wouldn't have put all the focus on Mike and Zoey, especially since they did a pretty bad job of representing DID/MPD. A better way to highlight the newer characters would be to keep Jo around. She showed a lot of promise in her first season, and she'd have been an awesome antagonist for TD's All-Stars season. And I'm a bit unoriginal in saying this, but Lindsay deserved more time to shine. She showed a lot of great qualities in Action, and All-Stars would have been a great opportunity to let Lindsay prove herself.
Disventure Camp
. With DC's All-Stars season, I'd cut the lineup to half the list of contestants from both seasons. (It's not really an All-Stars season if all but 10 previous characters make a return.) Alternatively, I'd go the opposite extreme and bring back *all* characters. It's a bold idea with a lot of potential problems, but with a longer timeline, I believe it could work. Imagine the sheer *chaos* that could sprout from this idea.
. Now for my personal gripes: Tess went home *way* too early. She was shaping up to be a strong player, and a favorite of mine. However, if she had to go, I'd have kept her around for at least another episode or two. Another gripe: I dislike how much time has been spent on Tom and Jake's current back-and-forth. Several characters have been a bit butchered in favor of pushing this pair, including Aidan and Ashley. With the latest elimination at the point of posting this comment, it would have made more sense for Gabby to pick Tom to leave. Tess wasn't being antagonistic about Ellie's elimination, while Tom said, "In your face!" Sure, Gabby have chosen Tess *because* she showed concern for Gabby and Ellie's well-being, but I don't think that's the great reason to use for this choice.
. Some of the working titles I saw were 'Disventure Camp: Havoc' or 'Disventure Camp: Clash of the Casts', which could be great titles, regardless of my lineup ideas.
I definitely agree with the points made in the video. Both shows needed time to introduce new characters and dynamics before jumping into what's supposed to be a dramatic and exciting milestone season. Total Drama should have waited until Pahkitew Island or The Ridonculous Race before introducing an All-Stars season, and Disventure Camp should have waited several more seasons before doing the same. (I'd say a good rule-of-thumb is to wait at least 5 seasons.)
I love both shows, but these are some pretty big and sort of questionable choices to have made. I'm hoping that DC proves their choices to be the right ones, but I don't feel the most confident currently. :/
Why am i not seeing any comments about old Billy's voice i feel like it sounds so weird
At least this All-Stars isn't a dumpster fire....tho the character development of some have been.....choices
"Animated reality tv elimination games based on survivor" try saying that 10 times fast
All stars by itself is hard to do, but i think the main thing (as literally said in the video) is that the all stars seaon HAS to be made up of all star characters, otherwise the title is incorrect. For this to work, we need either someone who dominated a season (like Alejandro) or someone who got far in 2 seasons. Some characters couldve possibly dominated if they ever had the chance to return in another season (like B or Karol) so these companies need more seasons before even considering an all stars season.
TD couldve had this correct, if the first 2 casts had 2 seasons each, but nope. Brick couldve been an all star if there was a 2nd season of this cast, but nah, we put in Sam for some reason
My point is, all star seasons are always gonna be risky, but they cant be too soon like DCs is. Tho DC has horrible writing anyways, not sure if they could ever make a decent enough all star season, no matter where it is