The Debut: Dream Academy - The Dream Trip to Lotte World | 더 데뷔: 드림 아카데미 - 꿈의 여행 롯데월드
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2023
- Watch the Dream Academy's trip to Lotte World!
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Sophia and Ezrela hugging while crying they're so cute 😭
timestamp ?😭 i’d love to see that, it’d be so cute
13:27 such a bestie vibes….
They are like the first Dream Academy trainee with Adela, Emily and Iilya.
my two faves omg
I started crying too
Sophia's cat was named after Enhypen's Jungwon. Her reaction is so understandable (and relatable) 😂
My cat named NiKi 😂
The fact that they check social media and see what people say about them is another reason why you guys should be kind even if you don’t pick or choose a certain girl. Be nice and kind and cheer for them all ❤💓
THIS
LoudER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
@@josstudio9947 and the people in the front will become deaf
we need more vlogs, thats the ONLY way this show will work and we can gain an actual connection to the girl
I know. Sadly they can’t show a lot because this journey will be on Netflix
We judging talent over the personalities at the end of the day but I do LOVEEEE the vlogs
at the end of the day it IS better for the girls to not show too much behind the scenes right now until they debut, but it makes it so hard for me and im sure a lot of other people to not see their personalities as much as we'd like@@shammardowe7797
I agree, this was the first time I felt connected and related to them especially when they were talking at their dinner. Also just being able to see who hangs out with you and who’s getting along and stuff, making sure no one is actually mean or anything behind the scenes
@@SukiSuki562ohhh so that's why?
What I love about Hybe is how they take note of the mental health of their trainees/idol members. Dream Academy is a survival show and is literally a competition but they give them time to also have fun. I hope the debut team will have an In The Soop content to relax. When it comes to food, people who visited Hybe cafe said theyre good. I trust Bang PDnim being a foodie himself 😂😊
let's act as if Runext never existed
mental health matters
@@JB-45 and that Runext was actually rushed by Belift.
@@YourAnpanman still part of Hybe
@@JB-45 fue belift el grupo es de belift
sophia and ezrela geeking out over the enhypen thing at lotte world and then getting to see them perform in the same day is crazy SO CUTE
and they are in the same company. its like dream come true 😭😭😭. and yunjin knows their names. I am jealousss
They are so cocky, i feel Egocentric about Ezrela, Sophia, Brooklyn and another onde that i forgot The name
@@JacsonFreitas18what 😧
9:14 no wayyyy girlie just said “it’s really hard for us americans” 😭😭⁉️ omg
LARA, SOPHIA, SAMARA, DANIELA, MEGAN, MANON, NAYOUNG
I HOPE HYBE DEBUTS 7 GIRLS INSTEAD OF 6
We have the same line up but I excluded manon in exchange for yoonchae but if Yoonchae will not make it. My first option also is manon.
Let’s debut Samara, Manon, Ezrela, Sophia, Daniela and Lara or and Megan 💃💃
literally my lineup
Samara and ezrela didn’t make it but ur other five and yoonchae did!
they better not push the narrative that we brazilians are just blindly supporting samara, but because she’s really talented and represent us well and deserves to debut!! that’s it!
No creo que eso sea lo que quieren decir. Ellas estaban hablando de lo difícil que es ver cómo otras concursantes tienen el apoyo fiel de sus países mientras con ellas es más difícil. De toda la vida se sabe que los latinos y algunos países asiáticos apoyan demasiado a su gente, y más si son tan buenos como Samara y Sofía.
Me imagino que para algunas es difícil contrastar ese apoyo increíble con las migajas que le dan los de sus países. Sobre todo las de EEUU, que tienen raíces de muchos lados pero tienen que ser encasilladas en ser estadounidenses y ya.
Tener raíces no tiene nada que ver con vivir la cultura..ahí la única que tenia razón era Daniela...que Megan quisiera recibir el apoyo de singapur sin ni siquiera saber el idioma como que me pareció demás 😅 y Brooklyn quejandose de el apoyo de algunos paises a sus concursantes como si por ser gringas no tuvieran todo mas fácil, a brooklyn y emily por ser gringas les dan camara siempre xd
@@ryu4ever Para mi cuando debuten las que debuten también las van a comparar por todo y se van a fanatizar más con unas que con otras... es el comienzo... es bueno que tengan una experiencia previa para poder superarlo, porque para mi va a ser más...viendo como es la gente.
That’s not the narrative. They were saying that some countries go really hard for their representatives, but others don’t. It just is what it is. Let’s be honest: we Latin Americans (I’m Puerto Rican) DO push for our people 100%. In LATAM communities online I’ve seen people say “vote for Samara and Celeste because they’re from LATAM!” instead of “vote for X because she’s talented!”
It is what it is. And it’s okay that some of the girls feel bad that people from their countries/ethnicities don’t support them that much.
@@ash-dl8ff This!!! I don't understand why everything must be a narrative for this people
These girls are speaking their mind and their concerns but then they gonna pass it off as "NARRATIVES"
Sophia and Ezrela hugging and tearing up because they were going to see Enhypen😂
Few minutes lates, same two dancing to criminal love
They really do love ENHYPEN.
Who wouldn’t love Enhypen? I mean they are the realest ❤️
I love them, my God❤️😭
Lara and Samara I really want them to debut together😭
Manon hugged Nayoung when she saw her ohhhh my besties. And Lara said Samara is her soulmate. Manon and Daniela interaction I love it ❤️ And Manon talking with Sophia 🥺❤️
Ok but Samara just choomping the food while everyone is chatting is so cute. Same with Ua.
Them fangirling over Enhypen so cute!
i mean they're about to debut under the same company as their idols, it's so heartwarming.. :')
@SyccRi they've always been a fan as much as I know Sophia has been a fan for a really long time 😭💗
@@SyccRiits technically not the same company, they will be managed by geffen and hybe america which is a whole other division of hybe not linked to the korean labels
Verdad que si? 🥺
@@orbitsomnia Even Hybe Japan &Team but still promote in Korea and used Hybe practice room. Seventeen under Pledis still under HYBE, Enhypen under Belift still under HYBE, New Jean under Ador still under HYBE, Le Serrafim under Source Music still under HYBE so HYBE America is still under HYBE. So no matter where your group was established you will still under HYBE group. So Dream Team debut team KATSEYE will still under HYBE. ENHYPEN's agency Belift was under HYBE and CJE NM but HYBE bought out CJE NM and now Belift is 100% under HYBE. Pledis is 80/20 and other Agency as well are not 100% HYBE. So HYBE America will still be UNDER HYBE and managed by GEFFEN just other HYBE group in Korea they are managed by HYBE and their agencies. So Dream Academy the same label as Enhypen
THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. RAW AND HONEST VIDEO CLIPS SO WE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE GIRLS. PLEASEEE POST MORE!!!!
Hybe cant give us alot,they are preparing a documentary on Netflix
@@vybzalways5293 will be too late then. The group will already be formed and ppl will loose interest
UPPPP 🔥🔥🔥
7:35 sophia encouraging mei to say her thoughts even if it's korean or japanese. ❤
Does she speak Korean too? I remember she's speaking Korean when she's with Yoonchae.
Manon is my bias ❤ and I love Nayoung Samara Lara Celeste & Sophia 🥰💕
❤
same top 6❤️❤️
Same top. Marquise i like too
Same omgggg there’s something in her I can’t quite explain. She’s chill but her aura ugh
@@clandestino5602how did you know their names we can't judge them cause they are not in survival so we don't know who is good or bad like I-land of enhypen6
Samara , Manon , Celeste , Sophia , Daniela , Ezrela , Megan , Nayoung, Mei ❤️✨
I can’t believe Megan is related to Singapore like me :)
@@oOohioI thought she was Chinese American 😭
브루클린 렉시
To me its:
Samara
Lara
Nayoung
Mei
Megan
Daniela
@liibanboojo1673 idk what you are trying to convey
Poor UA. She’s so smol and tiny and shy…She does not speak Korean or English. I just wanna hug her.
Sameeeeeee our baby 😭😭😭
I want Sophia to be my friend 😭😭 She's so loud, so funny, she's so expressive she really showed how excited she was, how nice it was to be with her and be friends
I hope to see more of Sophia, Samara and Lara interacting! they are so cute! 🥰
Same
🙋🏿♂️😉
🙋🏿♂️😉
Gotta love some real talks by the girls here. Not everyday we can get perspective from trainees of a survival show. This survival show has been very enlightening. Its not all pretty, and if I were them, I would feel terrified if I am not chosen. Its great that they can express themselves more.
9:06 the thing is, i do agree with brooklyn that some contestants are definitely receiving a lot of hype partly due to their nationality. latin american and filipino fans are really into nationalism and it’s obvious to all the girls at this point. however, she needs some self-awareness. other american contestants, such as emily, are popular. and there are contestants such as iliya who really don’t have an active fanbase from their country, but still recieve lots of support from others. so at this point, brooklyn should realise that the reason she’s one of the least popular isn’t because she’s american but because people didn’t find her to be as impressive or charismatic as the others.
Finally someone put that into words, I agree 100%
Even without being a Filipino, everyone understood at this point that Sophia is really the star of this show as she has the most star quality above others. You can just tell it with the way she speaks.
But I agree with her. I don't understand why Filipinos blindly overrate Sophia with the nationalism idea.
@Diyel I don't agree with that at all. I don't think any of them is the star of the show yet, it's too soon. To be biased is one thing, to put one of them at the top already with only 2 missions out is another, and I think it's crazy. But obviously that's my opinion and I do get yours, just don't think the same :)
Finally a no mean comment about what Brooklyn said! I second your thoughts, but I think people do not like Brooklyn's voice color/tone. It has nothing to do with her personality or charisma. Actually I found that thanks to these vlog videos I Got to like her. Her personality is SO bubbly and she is so Nice too, it is impossible to no like her. Also, she is a charismatic dance and I really liked her at Fearless, but it's her voice tone the problem. Hers is a little weird to me, and I really don't like how she sound most of the time, which is such a sad thing since I really like her character 🫠
I would like to thank whoever decided to let us hear their conversations at their dinner, the conversations felt real and meaningful and we see them more for their character and personality rather than girls on a screen. I would like to see more content like this because this insight is quite beautiful to hear as a viewer
Sophia and Manon Queens 👑
it's so beautiful to see how Lara cares about Samara, it's great to see how friendly they interact with each other. I really admire this friendship that is growing!
I hope that Manon knows that she was amazing in mission 2 and we can see her efforts paying off ! 💜
💙
I think she could have done better, but I agree she was able to do better during Mission 2. She needs more experience performing, as she seemed very (understandably) nervous. But it's impossible to deny that she has visual and superstar potential.
MANON has been working soo hard she is so sweet and very soft spoken i hope she knows she did great 😭
Brooklyn girlie it's not the other girls fault if their countries is voting for them, it's better if u think how u will perform well because girlie you haven't done good yet even though they given you so many lines😅
Yes, her comment is totally unnecessary! It suggests that we only vote for some by nationality rather than by talent! It's both, darling✨ it's not those girls' fault that they receive support from their countries.
also USA is one of the largest countries and with the most important music industry in the world, crying because other girls receive support from their respective countries is stupid. just repeat what the experts said...
I thought the same thing, but i didn't think badly of her but rather how people would react. It's like blaming the public for not having a solid base and minimizing the followers of the other participants. She will inevitably get backlash for being controversial and i hope she doesn't backfire
Ezrela is meant to be in front of an audience. She exudes beautiful energy ❤
Lara falando que ela e Samara são almas gêmeas 🥺❤️❤️❤️ Eu preciso que elas debutem juntas
Acho engraçado a relação brasil e india tipo. no grupo now united tem brasil/india, tem tbm um grupo de kpop q tem 2 integrantes brasil/india, tem tbm um grupo econômico mundial q tem brasil/india, e agora o dream academy espero tbm q elas debutem juntas 🇧🇷🇮🇳
"It's really hard for us americans" WTF GIRL HAHAHHAA BFR
LMFAOO
Looks like Sophia and Ezrela are really close💚 my hearteuuuu
They're the first batch of trainee from Dream Academy they know each other since 2021. I saw their interaction in Social Media before the show start.
It's so great when they show all the girls interacting, but it's still uncomfortable when some are ignored or barely shown while others get a lot of focus! hybe we still have 18 girls in the competition
Samara, lara, sophia, nayoung, Daniela, ezrela, yoonchae /megan 🔥final debut going to be
15:05 Brooklyn there are American contestants that have lots of support and are ranked high. And remember Chanelle? You are upset that YOU aren't ranked high.
Sophia,Manon,Samara,Ezrela,Lara and Nayoung let’s debut girls
0:27-0:28 our best girl Sophia having such main character vibes ❤
Yeah in the first i see her profile she literally look like a main cast in the movie
Grabiiiii ang visuals nya don ❤❤❤
i would love Celeste and Samara could talk more in the videos, i adore their talents but i can aaw their personalities and that's really
siento que a Celeste no la dejaron hablar en éste vlog, realmente queria saber que pensaban o como se sentían
@@aforgebs5972 senti lo mismo! que pereza
Its really rare to see a trainee share their feeling in a survival show .. this is so touching and great .. love you girls ❤❤
Yung iyak ni Sophia kase makikita niya Enhypen 😭💕
watching the girls have a day off was a refreshing change of pace :) that being said, nayoung/lara/megan/samara/sophia/manon DREAM TEAM LETS GOOOOOOO
Lara and Samara's bond aaaaaaa i wish we could see more of the two of them together and interacting
This comment from Brooklyn is completely unnecessary.
I completely understand that they might think it's unfair but let's be honest Sophia is super talented and charismatic (and even they agree) and Samara sings really well and honestly surprised me when dancing, she wasn't excellent but she wasn't far behind in that aspect.
And say that in front of Samara? Rude!
No menciona nombres, solo dijo los países
Manon doesn't talk much but she just captures pples attention she really has that star quality ❤ IT GIRL MAN!
I really like her vibe:)
Samara's super shy, i love your personality so lovely ❤🥺❤
9:05 okay, let’s REALLY unpack this. its a super interesting issue.
brooklyn is lamenting the fact that she doesn’t have a loyal fanbase because of her nationality or ethnicity. she looks at girls like samara and celeste, and sophia, who are from latin america and the philipines respectively. they have received massive amounts of support and hype, oftentimes accompanied by nationalistic sentiments, such as representing the country they’re from.
she’s a white girl from texas, and she’s wondering why she doesn’t receive that tangible loyalty from white american fans. i’ll tell her why.
countries such as the philipines and those in latin america are often underrepresented in mainstream western media. women of that heritage are often overlooked in favour of their white counterparts. as an aside - brooklyn 99 is an interesting show because it deliberately went against that norm. melissa fumero and stephanie beatriz are both latina women within a select ensemble cast. i remember an interview where one of them said, that when they heard the show had already casted a latina woman, she gave up on the hope of being casted too. the reason for that is that american tv often has a “box-ticking” approach to diversity. they employ the minimum standard and call it a day. but the casting director brooklyn 99 recognised the importance of casting based on merit, and both actresses have received endless praise for how much they bring to the show and how much they suit their roles.
back to dream academy. so, when these underrepresented countries get their own representatives on a show like this, viewed by a global audience, the fans go crazy. they’re so excited to see themselves as a part of this, and so grows this deep loyalty towards the contestants of their country.
but wait, why do white people not do that?
because they’re _so used to being represented already._
they don’t attach themselves to white contestants in the way that other ethnicities do because they’ve always had the privilege of being able to pick and choose who they see themselves in. and this all stems from white privilege, as the entertainment industry in america has been heavily dominated by white people since its birth.
take the film industry as an example. the majority of it having consisted of white directors and actors for decades. things are changing now, and with that change comes beautifully diverse creations, broader viewpoints and more interesting nuanced discussion. so obviously, people are wanting to see this positive change in the music industry too.
so, in conclusion, brooklyn’s privilege as a white person is proving to be a double edged sword. largely, of course, it works to her favour, in that she will never be discriminated against or made fun of or alienated or ostracised because of her ethnicity. she’ll also never have to struggle with a dual identity the way that the biracial girls do. but at the same time, she doesn’t get that intense loyalty from fellow white people, and so in a competition partly based on global votes, she may feel hard done by.
Eu gostei muito da sua resposta! Espero que as pessoas que pensem como ela leia o seu comentário e entenda. Quando eu descobri que iria ter uma integrante para representar o Brasil eu AMEI porque também sou brasileira.
Os latinos realmente se apoiam porque não tem tantas oportunidades nesse meio, então só de uma integrante está ali já é uma vitória pra gente! Não sei os outros latinos, mas posso afirmar que tratando dos brasileiros é muito difícil a gente não apoiar, somos fãs muito leais.
Já digo logo, a Samara vai debutar SIM! Não apoiamos ela só por ser brasileira e sim por ser incrivelmente talentosa, ela é girl from brazil!!! hahaha
Brooklyn had a lot of lines to sing in mission 1, the same happened in mission 2. Even though she didn't have all those points you mentioned, she did have several opportunities to captivate the audience with her charisma, her stage presence and her voice. But she didn't succeed, and it wasn't for lack of opportunity.
This "being American means being at a disadvantage" excuse is very bad. You can only conclude that she is unaware of how privileged she was during the show, as well as being naturally privileged to be white and American.
When I heard that part, I didn't react. Like girl, omg. Unbelievable.
This is an incredibly well thought out and accurate comment. I hope people read this and understand what you are exposing right here in terms of diversity and privilege.
I can testify that it felt strange to me she said she doesn't get support because in my eyes as a Latin person I would've though the opposite, that she would've had it easier to get votes because of her being a white american. Taking into consideration the inmense rise in popularity of kpop/asian related things in america. This was a huge eye opener in terms of their pov's and their own perception of things. I do have to clarify, I personally vote base on who blends well and how I see them in the group, regardless of their specific background or ethnicity.
That being said, as you mentioned, when people like me see someone like Celeste, Daniela or even Samara we feel represented. It doesn't matter if you speak or not the language, you are Latin in my eyes. I feel seen in an industry that most likely wouldn't pay attention to the consumers in other markets besides their pre-established ones or ones their sure of investing in. I don't get the concerts, events, special editions or even the slightest recognition, so as a viewer and a consumer I take what I can get.
Daniela feels like her spanish isn't great, their's many Latin people born in the states with the same background, I mean Becky G is an example of that. She struggled to find herself in the "in between" aka being a LatinX person. Someone who grows with english and spanish alike, in between two cultures that seems like an impossible dilemma. A war of "you aren't this but also not that either". Same goes to with Megan. I grew up with asian culture around me so whether I choose it or not, it is a part of me. So I completely understand how their both feeling. They want to show who they are but haven't had the chance to and feel frustrated. I'm sure every mixed or multicultural girl shares those feelings with them.
As far as the show goes, I can tell their all very creative individuals. I just wish the voting system was different and we got more insight like in this video.
I understand you but we also have to get into the minds of the American voters. You can see especially on Twitter how so many have this self hate complex, “I don’t trust that white b**ch, not voting for her, etc,” and their votes all consist of other contestants. Most Americans don’t really have this sense of self pride unless they’re extremely patriotic. I agree with you on the part of how Americanization of the world has led for them to be able to see themselves in practically every big screen, meaning they won’t really root for other Americans in this competition because it’s nothing new to them. But I don’t think we should put down her feelings when she’s valid for feeling hurt of not having support from her countrymen.
This comment is very accurate, and you are right!!! As an Argentine who has ethnic origins, I loved it, and it's true, seeing that there was a girl representing Argentina and Colombia made me super happy because this never happens, the same with Brazil, it's nice that these girls are there representing us as Latinos.
In addition, Argentina not only supports Celeste, but also Samara, Manon, Sophia, Daniela, etc.
Fun fact, Stephanie Beatriz (Rosa Diaz) is Argentine with Colombian parents, like Celeste😭❤️ I love that you named that show, it's my favorite❤️
Btw I don't think Brook is a bad girl, she just doesn't realize the tremendous privilege she has yet.
And actually Celeste is super talented, so I don't see the problem to suport her hehe.
Si, casi que quedo natural la parte en la que hablan del apoyo de los paises latinos... Casi que ni se nota que apenas mostraron a Samara... En fin. Si quieren un runext 2.0 lo van a terminar teniendo....
CELESTE SAMARA FIGHTING !
Vamos continuar apoiando as duas sim! Go Samara and Celeste!
Samara, celecte, manon, lexie, sophia, Naeyong, yoonchae, ua and ilya I hope the debut
How many members will be selected to debut?
@@rachmatmulia5212 6
NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT THEIR VISUALS BUT THEY'RE REALLY REALLY TALENTED AS WELL.... FIGHTING GIRLS!! 💪🇵🇭
7:48 ohhh i see manon and sophia along with UA, mei, yoonchae and nayoung, so glad to see these girls together eating
I didn't know I needed a two-shot of Sophia and Manon! But I have it now!
“their backs were beautiful” I SWEAR KARLEE IS SO RELATABLE😭
HYBE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED! MORE CONTENT ON THE CONTESTANTS! I really do hope that the girls that don’t make it, debut in other groups under HYBE! They have the talent and charisma!
lara face doesnt look like mean.. she just have mystery aura around her face.. we are always courious about lara.. she has idol star aura.. she can be great model too
She is so BEAUTIFUL!❤
She do look mysterious ❤
I love how they kept Karlee talking abt her experience and restraining herself to see what the public thinks abt her and the other trainees. It's beautiful and so realistic to know they are going thru issues as well and aren't just these perfect people with smiles on their face.
12:45 que lindo eu amo a amizade delas 🇧🇷🇮🇳
Yeahh
vao estar debutando!!
Nem mostram tanto né, mostram mais ela e Sophia ou outras
Samara so cute
My picks so far: Samara, Lara, Nayoung, Sophia, Daniela and Ezrela (probably go with Yoonchae & Manon)
heyyyy same!
Lara and Samara really are soulmates
Lamara precisa debutar ❤ 🇧🇷🇮🇳❤
About the votes, it is true that they vote for their country. But it is also true that the USA is a VERY big country and that historically the music industry was concentrated there, and that is still the case. I am not sure that these American girls know how difficult it is enter the global industry being a smaller country. So I will continue voting for whoever I want, they are all talented!!❤
Very true. As an American, when I heard that I wanted to say that respectfully they as Americans may have more opportunities than other contestant, particularly if they don’t make it and retain a good social media presence, they could still get signed elsewhere
Totally agree, couldn’t have said it better myself.
yep, thanks for articulating it.
Sophia is such a luckiest filo-engene if she debut🥹 let’s debut Sophia!!!🫶🏻🇵🇭
9:16 I’m american but america is literally the biggest country in this survival show, if people not voting you, it’s because you’re bad. Not because of your nationality . Lara/ Emily and Daniella are doing good, except for you
Not me pretending the "it's really hard for us americans" didn't happened
That was sooo cringe goodbye Brooklyn
They are all so cute❤ but let's continue supporting our girls Samara🇧🇷 and Celeste🇦🇷 💙💚💙💚💙💚
sim ❤
❤❤🇦🇷🇧🇷
Manon immediately going to hug Nayoung at 6:14
Pls let them debut together!!!!!
Samara e Lara perfeitas juntas, as duas vozes mais lindas do grupo. Índia e Brasil juntinhos ❤❤❤
Samara and Iliya together were very cute 💖 I'm very much like Celeste going on the ride even though I was scared 😅 Manon was very chic with her sunglasses at the beginning of the video 😎
Next mission put sophia and ezrela in 1 team pls. I wanna see the chemistry, i also wish to see manon with them, i want manon to be surrounded by extroverted teammates.
Aí fiquei bobo com o jeito que a Lara fala da Samara, amo uma amizade. Espero que debutem juntas ❤
me too 😻
I hope they debut together
AMEM DEBUTEM, CRUZEM OS DEDOS GALERINHAA❤
Brooklyn girl -- Lara, Daniela and Megan are all fan favorites. Even Emily is well-recognized as the best dancer of the bunch. You're the only American who isn't getting that much support and it has nothing to do with your US citizenship and everything to do with how you sounded like a squirrel in Mission 1 on top of getting most of the lines.
Why You have to be SO mean? These girls are on the internet. It is not Nice to Say stuff like that. This is something You would Say to her face to face? If it's not, then don't Say it 🙄
I feel Brooklyn is SO Nice, she doesn't deserve all the hate she is getting. She is not My favorite, but come here to Say nasty stuff to her makes You a mean person.
@@ryu4ever if she sees it let her see it. the fact that Brooklyn - a white American girl auditioning for an LA-based girl group - has the nerve to act like being an American is a disadvantage is so insensitive to the other girls. she needs to know that she's too used to white privilege & entitlement and that's why she's blaming her nationality instead of realizing that she doesn't have the fanbase because she performed poorly in Mission 1.
@@crazilyinliv its a super interesting issue.
brooklyn is lamenting the fact that she doesn’t have a loyal fanbase because of her nationality or ethnicity. she looks at girls like samara and celeste, and sophia, who are from latin america and the philipines respectively. they have received massive amounts of support and hype, oftentimes accompanied by nationalistic sentiments, such as representing the country they’re from.
she’s a white girl from texas, and she’s wondering why she doesn’t receive that tangible loyalty from white american fans. i’ll tell her why.
countries such as the philipines and those in latin america are often underrepresented in mainstream western media. women of that heritage are often overlooked in favour of their white counterparts. as an aside - brooklyn 99 is an interesting show because it deliberately went against that norm. melissa fumero and stephanie beatriz are both latina women within a select ensemble cast. i remember an interview where one of them said, that when they heard the show had already casted a latina woman, she gave up on the hope of being casted too. the reason for that is that american tv often has a “box-ticking” approach to diversity. they employ the minimum standard and call it a day. but the casting director brooklyn 99 recognised the importance of casting based on merit, and both actresses have received endless praise for how much they bring to the show and how much they suit their roles.
back to dream academy. so, when these underrepresented countries get their own representatives on a show like this, viewed by a global audience, the fans go crazy. they’re so excited to see themselves as a part of this, and so grows this deep loyalty towards the contestants of their country.
but wait, why do white people not do that?
because they’re _so used to being represented already._
they don’t attach themselves to white contestants in the way that other ethnicities do because they’ve always had the privilege of being able to pick and choose who they see themselves in. and this all stems from white privilege, as the entertainment industry in america has been heavily dominated by white people since its birth.
take the film industry as an example. the majority of it having consisted of white directors and actors for decades. things are changing now, and with that change comes beautifully diverse creations, broader viewpoints and more interesting nuanced discussion. so obviously, people are wanting to see this positive change in the music industry too.
so, in conclusion, brooklyn’s privilege as a white person is proving to be a double edged sword. largely, of course, it works to her favour, in that she will never be discriminated against or made fun of or alienated or ostracised because of her ethnicity. she’ll also never have to struggle with a dual identity the way that the biracial girls do. but at the same time, she doesn’t get that intense loyalty from fellow white people, and so in a competition partly based on global votes, she may feel hard done by.
@@ryu4ever Neither is nice to say all of that with basically this subtext: "all these other girls (even we all know she was talking about celeste samara and manon) are untalented and people vote for them because of their country of origin or race. If they voted on talent they would vote me":
Esos comentarios me sonaron a lo que dijo la couch, y saben que, digan lo que digan voy a seguir votando a cele porque es talento Argento!! Porque se nota que ni siquiera le dan tomas, tiene una voz distinta y baila hermoso! A los argentinos nos viven discriminando. Así que AGUANTE CELESTE!! 💙🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Reee que necesidad de hacer esos comentarios. No sé, sentí como muy guionado a esa conversación entre las chicas 😑 pero bueno, sigamos bancando a Celes🇦🇷💙
Bueno, esto refuerza lo que dijeron ellas. Pero no se lo tomen a mal, algunas chicas supieron darse su propio lugar por su talento, y su nacionalidad no les garantiza un lugar en el podio. Que se quejen por no tener una base de fans significa que al público sencillamente no le interesa
@@clandestino5602 Tal cual, al resto de las de estados unidos les va bien encima. No se que pretenden.
EXACTO!!! Y LES VA A RE CABER!!! AGUANTE CELESTE LOCO!!! 🇦🇷🔥🇦🇷🔥🇦🇷🔥🇦🇷
9:10 Oxiiii, que culpa a Samara tem de ser linda, talentosa e brasileira? N é criticando o apoio, que vcs vão ter mais. Deu pra perceber que a Sami ficou super desconfortável, eu só queria dar um abraço nela gente❤❤😢
7:12 Lexie is such an emo queen, I cant even. she rocks that shirt like no one else, and those gloves are everything. she giving such a major vibes, yall Im rooting for it.
Where are they posting the longer version of this? Manon don’t worry about the public girl just try your best and make us proud ❤️
12:47 Lara and Samara (soulsisters supremacy) 🥰🛐
9:22 not the camera focusing on samara after brooklyn said that 😂😂😂
My Dream Team in no particular order
Lexie, Ezrela, Nayoung, Megan, Sophia, Samara, Nayoung, Celeste!
Eu penso que se o público não está tão interessados em algumas competidoras é porque elas não mostraram todo o seu potencial ainda, algumas se destacaram mais que outras , seja na voz, performances, carisma e outras coisas ...Fico triste por falarem que o público está votando apenas em seus países. Como brasileira continuarei votando sim em Sami e em outras competidoras que pra mim se destacam mais e que brilham muito mais com seus talentos ... (Sami você é sim talentosa e merece estar onde está , o Brasil está com você, continua menina😊🇧🇷❤️)
Nessa hora a Samara ficou tipo assim:
👁👄👁 (tadinha)
Eu achei meio desnecessário falar sobre isso, até pq a decisão dos jurados, pode ser mais forte q a do público. Agora é só correr atrás. Nós brasileiros sempre vamos apoiá-la, mas gente do céu, a menina é muitooo talentosa, eu acho q foi isso que cativou os brasileiros, fora o carisma da pessoas tbm❤
É desconfortável, mas é a verdade. Alguns países são grandes ou têm públicos apaixonados. Tinha bastante gente dos EUA na mesa da Samara e elas não estão recebendo toda essa paixão ou conexão do país delas. Além disso, participantes de países menores também não têm um público tão grande. Eu vi mais como um desabafo, porque, por exemplo, a Samara é talentosa demais (apesar de ser um pouco introvertida, sempre tenta se destacar e dar o seu melhor nas missões), mas é óbvio que ela vai receber um apoio gigante dos brasileiros, por nos identificarmos com ela ou por sermos um país enorme. E todo mundo sabe que onde tem brasileiro, nós estaremos. Por fim, tem algumas meninas realmente recebendo hate por serem dos seus respectivos países. Realmente era mais um desabafo, uma frustração, até porque o show tá tendo muito foco em talento e pouquíssimo nas histórias e bases das participantes, então não dá pra conhecer muito das personalidades delas, sabe?
OBS: Citei a Samara, em resposta ao seu comentário, mas estou ciente de que tem outros países que também apoiam suas representantes com bastante vigor e paixão. É isso...
@@sabrinabasilio1766Eu concordo de certa forma, mas as meninas foram inconvenientes, na mesa tinha a Lara e a Samara (que estão sendo apoiadas pelo seu povo), deu pra perceber que elas ficaram desconfortáveis.
Eu confesso que a grande visibilidade da Samara foi um choque, pra integenates e a propria Hybe e a Giffen, todos achavam que as estatunidenses iam se destacar mais, até porque os EUA sempre praticamenre globalizaram o meio musical. (contudo, as estatunidenses sempre terão meio caminho andado)
amei a lara falando da amizade com a samara ❤
Amo o talento, a presença de palco e a voz da Samara; a habilidade na dança da UA, a simpatia e o envolvimento da Ezrela; a voz da Karlee e o jeito de liderança da Sophia. Mas pela edição é evidente que algumas meninas já foram escolhidas. Basta notar quem sempre aparece mais vezes e sempre em primeiro plano. Só não vê quem não quer.
Também percebi isso, eles estão dando destaque mais a umas do que pra outras, claramente manipulando as pessoas isso é muito triste😢
Pois é , isso é tão evidente, tão parcial. Tão injusto! Deveriam dar evidência a todas por igual. É irritante ver as mesmas meninas sempre em primeiro plano, em quase todas as cenas, com mais falas...
Espero que mais pessoas acordem e notem isso. @@audirlenecardosofigueirare6210
Samara you are soo cuteee
Manon and Samara will debut!!!!!
Brooklin hablando d cele y samara indirectamente por el apoyo q tienen por sus nacionalidades jajaja no tienen la culpa d tener apoyo y q los gringos ni las apoyen tanto jajaj y bue amiga así somos los latinos ❤
Sophia tiene mas apoyo que ellas 2. Samara esta alli en esa mesa con las otras chicas que estaban discutiendo del tema y no lo tomo personal.
@@Arrowdance capaz pero como estoy más en tiktok y entras a los comentarios cele tiene mucho apoyo.
3:43 sophia and samara 🩷
Manon my bias ❤❤❤❤❤ love you I really want you to debut
ugh that kbbq portion was so good -- getting to hear all of their thoughts and chats in such an honest and heart-warming way??? love the transparency of these mini vlogs, pls keep this up
It feels so weird to be early 😅
i know!
Marquise y Celeste
Ezrela was born to be an idol. If she doesn't debut somone else should definitely debut her. I loover her personality, she's super cute and smart
them fangirling over enhypen is so real
Uma brasileira na hybe! Muito orgulho ❤
Manon soo introvert but her presence was super felt ❤️.IT girl
i find it interesting that the country brooklyn is receiving the most support from is korea. the vast majority of positive comments i see for her are written in korean. but what’s funny is that they always talk about her appearance, praising her for looking like an american high teen movie character. and its so predictable! of course the koreans love her for her looks. one glance at her and you can tell she has certain characteristics that they always praise. the big eyes, high nose bridge, short jaw, small face. its so rare to see a korean commenter call someone who doesn’t fit this description pretty.
i also saw a comment in korean saying that the girls are all cute, but there aren’t enough pretty girls. then the commenter remarked on how as a korean, they have a “unique criteria”. it seems most koreans can’t go two seconds without talking about people’s looks. in contrast, its so rare to see comments from other countries talking in the same way. the obsession over appearance is such a disease in korea’s consciousness.
At least it is better than FP, AR, and BR people voting based on nationality.
@@hja7916 let’s not deflect from a real issue by pointing out a separate one.
@@ulamme I am not blaming them. I support YoonChae and Mei since I am Korean and think Mei is cute.
Still, Visual is an essential asset for idol.
@@hja7916 wouldn’t you agree with me that most of the girls are very pretty? and that all of them have their own unique visual charm? i think they have the visual asset covered :)
@@ulammeI consider they are pretty except 6 of 20 trainees.
I am curious. Do you consider Karlee and Emily pretty? Please give me your honest opinion.
🩵💚 Samara y Celeste 🩵💚 Ojalá las muestren más!! 🥲
sophia and ezrela crying for enhypen was so reall
Celeste is so cute and shy, God bless her soul~ our introvert representation haha ❤🇦🇷
SAMARA E Iliya grudadas amei❤