Chain and chain sprockets change - Kawasaki Versys 1000
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2020
- Hello fellow riders.
Not very successful replacement of the chain and sprockets on my Versys.
JT sprockets somehow don't fit the D.I.D chain even though they are sold as a set.
Has this happened to any of you?
I am happy to read your comments on this.
Ride safe
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I noticed when you adjusted the chain, the 2 alignment marks didn't look exactly in the same place (if you trust the marks.) That could have caused the excess noise. I just replaced my Versys chain and went with the Vortex 42 tooth rear sprocket. Stock is 43. It dropped the rpm by 5-600 in 6th at highway speeds. I haven't owned a chain drive MC in many years and curious about the life of modern MC chains. With the stock set-up, the rpm was almost 5000 at 80 mph. It now is only 4300 rpm, which sounds more relaxed and pleasing to my ears. I kept the front sprocket because it showed little wear and no slop with the new chain. As a side note, my stock chain had over 33,000 miles when replaced and it only needed 4 adjustments throughout its life. All the chains from my 70's & 80's MC's lasted maybe 10-15,000 miles. I was very pleased with the chain life of the stocker. I looked down at an earlier post and saw that you only got 16,777 miles out of your stock chain. I'm pretty religious about cleaning the chain with kerosene and then using chain lube every 3-400 miles. Thanks for the video. Nice detail and I appreciated the fast forward when removing bolts and parts. Hope you get better mileage out of your new chain.
Thanks, I just came across your channel and I’ve watched a bunch of your videos , I just bought a 2016 Versys 1000 with 12,000 miles on it. All of your maintenance videos are extremely helpful, greatly appreciated!
Great content, Andy! I plan to pick my new Versys up on Saturday. Your videos will be a great help:
Cheers for that Andy, these videos have been brilliant. I'm due to have a clean up inside the front sprocket casing soon.
Thanks Andrew, yes do that, there is a lot of grease in this casing always. Cheers
Excellent video. Very well made! Thanks!
Dzieki Andy !
Like always Andy you the best
Brilliant movie! Thanks
another pretty cool job, U Pro !
The original front sprocket is in rubber - that's why it's quiet. Therefore, the front sprocket is always best to buy OE. Video, as always, great MotoAndy :)
But that doesn't explain why the rear sprocket also makes strange sounds, theoretically not much different from the original in terms of thickness or structure.
hmm, that's interesting indeed. but in the video at the end it seems that your chain is a bit too loose. Maybe it just looks like this in the movie ?
@@zoltaibiza when you ride the chain works with the suspension so sometimes it is looser sometimes more tight, I set it as needed, so it's just an illusion in the movie
top job, I’ll drop mine off on Thursday :)
thought i was watching Peter Gabriel's 'sledgehammer' video for a second :)
@MotoAndy Just a tip - the buffers inside the rear sprocket hub are way too large, at least they were on mine, and push the hub outwards. When you tighten the rear axle, you push the hub back inwards but that creates a tension inside the hub bearing - mine got killed in about 50k.
Hi Andy, top video and thanks for sharing as you always do, even though you had some disappointment. Not sure if its 100% equivalent / relevant, but I had 2 VFR Crossrunners before my V1K. Both had that exact same chatter from the front sprocket. Both on 100% original fit oem kit(ie Honda factory fitted). You could hear it clearly even moving the bike round the garage. Couldn't really hear it at speed. Anyway , quick check on the forums confirmed it was typical of vfrs. No concerns raised unless there was undue play of the front sprocket on the splines other than the normal fraction of a mm float. Many 1000,s of miles done on both without any issue other than raised eyebrow when pushing it round. Or spinning it up on the stand. Anyway...just thought I'd add this to the discussion. Cheers ....hope all is well in Cloggy and otherwise with your V1K
Thanks Paul. In my V1, the faster I rode the sound was louder, so a bit different than what you describe from your VFR. Cheers
Yeah..you know when something doesn't feel right. Plus I can see you are a perfectionist. Hope you weren't out of pocket too bad. I guess there should have been a good will contribution if nothing else from the package supplier
Whats the specs and tool that you use to remove the nut of front sprocket?
Did you also replaced the knot of the front sprocket?👍
Great videos Andy I believe the problem may be that your front sprocket needs a spacer I noticed it was not as thick as the OEM sprocket so probably an alignment issue I hope this helps.
both sprockets front and rear make the same sound, even after OEM replacement of one of them. Thanks for the hint, but I don't think that's a problem. cheers
Only grease on the seals? I grease up the pins and bushings good. To assemble dry means rapid wear as because it is a sealed chain they will forever be dry.
question where did you buy the kit from
Hi Andy, what are the torque specs of your impact wrench? I think I will get me a similar one to remove the front sprocket.
Thanks!!
But why new star creat noise?
Hey Andy, does your Versys rear brake caliper have a tiny bit of wiggle? I have a brand new 2023 Versys 1000 and I just swapped the chain and sprockets and I reinstalled my rear caliper and no matter how hard I tighten it down it still has a tiny bit of wiggle, just wondering if this is normal?
Siema. Wymiana za zebatke z tlumikiem drgan pomogla 😊 roznica jak w Twoim filmie. Pozdrawiam✌️
Dobrze wiedzieć, dzięki 🙂
Excellent how to video even though you had that problem. Frustrating for sure.Do you know if any of the Lighteck chain adjusters fit the Versys1000? I have the same bike, would like to get a set of them, however not listed on Revzilla.
I have no idea of lightteck adjusters will fit V1.
It's just that OEM front sprocket have rubber damper and your JT don't. JT have front sprocket with or without rubber damper, except for once, i always used JT front sprockets with damper (on 2 of my previous Z750 and now on Z900). Nothing wrong with sprocket without dampener, it's just louder without rubber damper.
Hola!
Con cuantos kilómetros le as cambiado el kit de arrastre?
Saludos.
Hello!
With how many kilometers have you changed the drag kit?
Greetings.
unless I'm wrong, something like 18,000 km
OH!.. is that whine the JT front Sprocket... mine was just done like two days ago and I could not figure out the whine... like a jet engine winding up... my mechanic had to cut off the front nut so I thought the new nut might being spinning close to the graphite speed sensor just under.... one year rider here. Dave 63 2015 650 versys
Yes it is JT whinning.......
Hi Andy, why did you cut the old chain when you had to remove the rear wheel? ;) And did you use dry lube on the new chain?
to disassemble the chain you have to break the link or cut it, otherwise you will not take it off, because I was replacing it with a new chain so there was no point in breaking it, it was simply faster to cut. And the wheel must be removed to change the sprocket.
You have to remove the swingarm to remove the chain without cutting it (not just the back wheel).
Hey Andy, just came across your videos, great work. What's the brand of the chain breaker tool?
it's a regular, cheapest chain braker from my local hardware store, no brand 🙂
@@MotoAndy 🤣 Cheers mate.
You need to replace the sprocket with rubber dampening, had the same issue before, and was fixed by replacing with sprocket with rubber dampening
You're probably right, I get this opinion a lot, so there must be something to it. Thanks for your comment. Ride safe
@MotoAndy
Powiedz mi prosze , czy te lekkie wycie podczas rozpedzaniania sie lancucha to normalma rzecz? Dopiero co wymienilem komplet na D.I.D zmcvx zloty, bez przedniej zebatki z tlumikiem drgan (ta juz jest zamowiona na ta JT z guma) . Na starym napedzie orginalnym byla powiedzmy cisza 😅 Versysa mam od 3 tyg i sie dopiero go ucze....dzieki ✌️
Na orginalnej zębatce z tłumikiem łańcuch jest prawie nie słyszalny, na JT be tłumika miałem wrażenie że mi tryby ze skrzyni wypadły 🤣
@@MotoAndy dam znac w przyszlym tyg jak mi dojdzie zebatka i mi mechanik ja wymieni ;) A co do wycia lancucha podczas rozpedzania sie...slyszalnego u ciebie na filmiku na koncu. To normalne?
Great timing with the video, i'm just about to change my chain and sprockets on my versys.
I got a silent running front sprocket, so hopefully wont get the noise issue.
What chain lube do you use?
Cheers Andy!
I'm using Motul chain lube and with OEM sprockets there is no noise
Is the Motul a dry lube? I use S100 dry lube since June this year, and I’m happy with it. Using it, because of all the dirt and fling normal lube has.
@@Momo-Sparco I use Motul chain lube Road C2 its a wet lube
Shep is right about the silent running sprocket
That rubber ring makes the whole thing much more quiet than the one without the rubber ring
This being said, it’s only a noise problem and not a mechanical problem
I would suggest also to realign the chain with a tool and not rely on those mark on the swing arm ... they are not very precise and might have contributed to the excessive noise
Otherwise, great video, I learn lots things myself !!!!
@@filsen4660 Thanks and yes I did checked the chain to see if it was aligned with the tool, I just didn't film it. Now I know about sprockets with rubber ring so next time I just order OEM sprocket. Ride safe
Shouldnt the chain be adjested while bike on side stand ?
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@@MotoAndy spot on! Thankyou sir
Too much noise because the front sprocket was a fraction too big?
both front and rear sprockets make the same strange noise, in my opinion the JT sprockets do not match this chain, probably the tooth spacing is incorrect
The front sprockets where noticeably different.
Different thickness etc.
What's the name of the song in the early part of this video?
all songs are listed below the screen in the description
@@MotoAndy I tried searching them, but there's not a music of the lady singing. What song is that one that she's singing in?
- Never mind, I found it: ua-cam.com/video/aZCcIlRcPB0/v-deo.html - Romy Wave - Curious
Hallo mich würde interessieren mit wieviel nm das ritzel angezogen wird ?
Mein schlagschrauber hat eine anzugskraft von 100 Nm, das zahnrad wird also ungefähr mit dieser kraft angezogen
Dankeschön
Zębatkę zdawczą to bym kupuł oryginalną bo te zamienniki to gówno warte.A dlaczego nie nasmarowałeś bolców spinki tylko oringi?Przecie na bolcach jest największe tarcie. Ile taka zakuwka ? W viaderku zakładam łańcuch już zakuty !😀 Zdrówka
panie Melonie, kupiłem zestaw łańcuch + zębatki (tam było wszystko co zresztą widać na filmie) , co było błędem bo zębatki nadają się na złom nie pasują do tego łańcucha, także na przyszłość nowy łańcuch i OEM zębatki i nie będzie tego typu problemów, co do smarowania to faktycznie mogłem pomiziać po bolcach, no ale od czego jest smar do łańcucha ;-)
@@MotoAndy Z użycia słowa "pomiziać" wnioskuję, że nie korzystałeś z translatora a władasz językiem polskim. Kanał prześledziłem już w całości bo też wyposażyłem się w tym sezonie w takiego Versysa z 2017 roku i pomimo przebiegu 13 tys km mam jakieś cyrki z oryginalnym łańcuchem. W filmie zauważyłem że przy ustawianiu koła podziałka na wahaczu była różnie ustalona - ona nie jest symetryczna w tym modelu? Sorry za banalne pytanie ale w poprzednich motocylkach miałem monowahacze i problem z osiowaniem zębatek nie występował.
@@Prez_s wyciągnąłeś właściwe wnioski 🙂 w teori oznakowania na wahaczu powinny być dokładne a w realiach różnie z tym bywa, kiedyś w przypływie szaleństwa kupię sobie laserowy "liniał" do równoległego ustawienia łańcucha i sprawdzę to dokładnie. Sprawdź czy zębatki nie mają wytartych zębów na zewnętrznej powierzchni zębatki to by świadczyło o tym że łańcuch idzie krzywo po zębatkach. Jedno jest pewne, sekcja wykaże co było problemem 😉
@@MotoAndy taki jest plan. Muszę tylko na spokojnie dobrać się do przedniej zębatki i wyczyścić tam wszystko dokładnie.
@MotoAndy @@Prez_s siema. W moim versysie 1000 z 2014 (cyklop) tez nie bylo rowno ustawione z obu stron na wachaczu. I mechanik sie dziwil czemu tak bylo. Po wymianie na nowy naped ustawil na kreski na rowno. Czyli zle?? A co do przedniej zebatki ktora mialem w zestawie ze zlotym lancuchem od D.I.D. Oczywiscie od razu te chrobotanie metaliczne uslyszalem podczas pierwszej jazdy😮😅. Od razu zamowilem od JT z tlumikiem drgan przednia. Za kilka dni zamontuje ja i mam nadzieje ze bedzie duzo ciszej...jak na filmie kolegi Andiego 😅
How many KMs/miles on the bike, Andy?
27000km/16777mi I did less than 8kkm this year because of the bloody covid.
MotoAndy were the chain & sprockets worn out already, or did you just want to change them?
OEM sprockets are still ok i still ride them. When I was looking for a chain i found the whole set so i bought it, as it turned out later unnecessarily.
But 27k is not that much for a chain? So why change it. I mean the OE chain/sprockets looks fine.
I neglected the chain a bit, and unfortunately it started to make strange noises, the sprockets are ok
The chain that has the Versys 1000 (ΜΚ2 2015-2018) from the factory is the best in the world (ThreeD chain).
Big mistake you changed it my friend. I have the OEM chain for 4 years (32000 Km) and it is really like new.
Τhe new one you have put, is of inferior quality.
Good instructional videos, but if you were overweight by 80 lbs and breathed loudly for the whole video, that would be an improvement over the terrible music.