Indigenous People Review Native American Characters In Film & TV
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I am Irish. We have history with Native Americans. The Choctaw nation gave the Irish people money in their time of need - during the famine. We have since honoured them back by sending money and creating a sculpture in Ireland to remember their deed. It is a crime that Native history is not taught properly in American schools.
@@lennexcowan8726 Not sure what this has to do with my point above. Also Irish Americans and Irish people are not the same thing.
@@lennexcowan8726 bro stop being ignorant
im navajo and i alway had my grandmas mom tell me about the history back then (she 87) cause my school never taught us about the native history
@@lennexcowan8726 um.. listen this is bad, this makes us (black people) look heartless to others. Please stop and actually care for other Americans
Or really any schools for that matter
so, the most accurate was Twilight? that's saying something
I was looking for this comment.
Which is sad because the actual tribe that was used in the movie complained about it.
I have a close friend who works with the Quileute tribe. She said the there's two sides. Some loved the recognition, other's disliked it.
@@maximellow5745 probably their problem was that theye were portrayed as werewolfs. Or being associated w this stalking mormon vampire love story
@@katokianimation yeah. Also the fact that the werwolfs in the story imprint on, groom and date literal newborns.
"I don't think the great spirit would be a white child" I chuckled
The factors within the movie the character of all Marie is not white. He's not indigenous but he's not white. He is ethnic.
@@carolmoore1038 yeah no he white but you gotta take that up with the screenwriters of the movie
@@karinaheikerthomasen8110 make sure you talk to the producers of the show about this. Thanks.
What if I said "I dont think the great spirit would be Native child"?
@@mreverly ay take that up with homie who said it. Doesn't bother me at all if you said it 🙂
We do need Natives telling Native stories, because they are OUR stories. I always had a problem with non-Natives telling Native stories because they will never be able to tell it as well as we can. I want to share the stories of my tribe and hear the stories of other tribes, from the people of the tribes.
The thing is no native Americans has the technology to record history. Only the real civilization of Aztecs, Mayans and Incas were advanced enough to do that.
@@Abhishek-sr2pu We have a ton of oral history and stories that were verbally preserved and passed down through generations, so what I mean is that Natives should be the ones telling their stories right now, when the internet, camera, and other tech gadgets make story telling easier and more accessible. We have the tools and technology to tell and record our history now.
Abhishek Nanda Not true at all
I hate seeing all these Native books written by non-native. People make a fuss when authors aren't of the race of the stories they tell for other books. However these non-Native are making money off of us.
That’s interesting and a good point. Thank you for sharing.
The woman who does the voice of Pocahontas, Irene Bedard is actually Alaska Native.
And the character she was representing was from an extinct tribe
I’m also Alaska native just not her tribe
Well at least Disney got PART of it right 😒... But it's still not enough. Amerikkka😏.
I met her at a powwow a couple years ago. She’s super sweet. She’s in tons of other native movies representing other tribes. It’s nice seeing natives in native movies
@@brendanjames2540 they got the character name right, the story all wrong, they presented as love story, in reality she got kidnapped and forced to marry the white dud.
She was first married to someone in her tribe until she was taken hostile because she was the daughter of the chief. John Smith was one of the main people behind her kidnap. Not only that but they forced her to learn their ways and John Smith somewhat faked his death so they could keep Pocahontas in captive. Smith was the one that made an agreement with the chief for his daughters freedom. Only she never got freedom and was forced into marriage with John Rolfe, changed her name, and had a child with him. The King of England at the time requested an audience with her to be shown as an example that ‘savages’ can be civilized. Rebecca (Pocahontas) left to England and her father sent two of his best warriors to escort her. When they go there they were treated with kindness for a few days and eventually she was poisoned and her two escorts were sold into slavery.
With Sacagawea she treated about the same as Pocahontas was. True she was an escort and tracker for her husband and his company, but she was still treated like trash.
It’s so sad to learn about these indigenous peoples lives as they are portrayed differently on screen. We need to have more accurate information so people know what actually happen to our people and what still effects us to this day. We, indigenous people, are still here and are still fighting for what was promised to our ancestors.
I am of the Navajo tribe and even though we are the biggest tribe I still meet people that ask how we, native Americans, still exist. Thinking we are extinct and aren’t real. So many older movies and even modern movies with natives make us out as bad guys, but we literally are not. Do your research and/or ask a fellow native from a tribe nearby. A lot of us are willing and grateful to tell you all about our people.
we so need native pride weekends coast to coast. i think there's a huge thirst for the history, culture, food, etc. lots of us have even have tiny bloodlines to tribes. it'd be awesome to learn more. see more.
I am curious to what happened to her baby she had with that man who forcefully took her away???
@@richiethev4623 same
As an Irish person I have only ever had sympathy for how your people were treated and how your land and so much of your identity were stolen. How on earth is the truth not being taught in schools? Do people not want to know the truth?
it's not taught like slavery is not taught. they teach you just enough so you're aware something happened, but not fully explored. things are taught to fit a wall street narrative. and to make the founding fathers look good.
I completely forgot about Night at the Museum
Me too
They called her shag-in-a-box in one scene
@@ladanski shag?
@@JoeVington shag is british slang for sex
Like you forgot about the movie or about Native American in the movie?
It’s wild how many people think that all Natives have “gone extinct”... while there’s one right in front of them
One right here.'
Hopefully scientist can get a DNA sample from the few skeletons that are left. Maybe scientist can revive native Americans from extinction.
Mi’kmaq here
@@NegatingNegation there still alive there litralty in the video
Funny thing in high-school my teacher told me there was no more Natives, then I met a girl who was Native turns out 5 years down the road we got married and have two boys. People do need to educate themselves even culture is amazing. My mother is from a native culture in Mexico but I never learned our ways but the internet is an amazing tool.
I can't believe Twilight actually did something right.
The entire cast who played Jacob’s family belongs to a native tribe. Taylor Launter is only a little bit native,
@@xwrtk let's be honest taylor was hired for his appearance for the most part.
Well, actually if you research a little, Meyer used the Quilleute, a real life tribe, but not a penny from her work went to them. Also, in the later books, there are harmful stereotypes being portrayed. I recommend watching Dominic Noble's videos about Twilight. They set things clear to me that I didn't even realize were wrong in the books and movies.
@@yunamchill9169 well I actually watched another interview where a lady that’s a part of this tribe said they are grateful for all the benefits they’ve received after twilight, she said they were able to regain some lands that they had been fighting for during years and it also opened doors for them both economically and in tourism. Plus I don’t think Stephanie was obligated to give them money she gained from her books, she wrote them after all
@@Sayk22 while I get that, it doesn't change that others were offended by the book. You're correct that she isn't obligated, but a genuinely decent person would like have donated at least some of the proceeds for them since she used their tribe for such a major part of her story, and therefore helped her success.
No Pocahontas, didn’t marry John Smith, she married John Rolfe.
Exactly bro.
She wasn't protrayed as having married john Smith
@@SuperFeefer One of the women in the video said "She was forced to marry John Smith." This is false. She married John Rolfe, was baptized and given the Christian name of Rebecca.
And thats make it right? Please just listen. Is they history they know better.
Names change we all know who they mean, dont be a prude.
Y’all should post more Native content not just cause Indigenous peoples day is coming up
Yes. Everyday is indigenous day
@@supernatural5354 Sure...
@@GoneFishingAway Take your name as advise...
@@supernatural5354 Not gonna lie that was smooth
Yup
People need to give more appreciation towards native and indigenous american people. They are so underrated and many times people forget them and the things that they have gone thru.
We Thank you for that.'
As well as what they continue to go through.
@@withmyspoon true , Sally 😔👊
@Hotep Yakub Enword Jogger ?
Hotep Yakub Enword Jogger wtf is your problem?
Quileutes are a real tribe. They live on the coast of Washington state.
Was looking for this comment!! WA is always forgotten about.... 🙄
Was looking for this comment also. It’ seems like the tribe people hear about are the Cherokee There many tribes in the Pacific Northwest
Yakima tribe and most all of Tacoma and Seattle was THEIR land. White people always saw it as theirs.
@@bonitaleady8017And we have Chumash here on Santa Ynez Reservation.
I hope with Netflix’s upcoming live action Avatar: the Last Airbender they hire real Native American actors for water tribe members
(Edit: Inuit I mean, not Native American. Thank you for the corrections. Though considering there is such a small indigenous population today, they/we might have to settle for actors from any indigenous group. But I hope they try to strive for specifically Inuit for atleast the main water tribe characters- including gram gram, Pakku, Yue, Hama, and Hakoda)
Yeah, actual Inuit. That would be great.
I wonder if they're even gonna still go through with it? The creators left because Netflix wanted to make a lot of creative changes. It was rumored that they wanted to age up the characters so they could get away with more "sexy" situations.
@Forever marked Gross!
@Forever marked Not surprised Netflix would do this since they had no problem with that cuties movie. They aren't even trying to hide their pedophilia anymore.
MAKE A CHANGE. Make a petition, email them, do anything.
I always did love Pocahontas. That being said, it is a romanticized fairy tale. Not at all accurate to the real story and that real story deserves to be told.
@Speaking Truth maybe. I knew the real story because I started looking into the stories behind the movies. With finding out about the original fairy tales, there’s finding out that the real story of Pocahontas was dark as hell.
Same. I love the movie as only a movie. I’m perfectly aware of what actually happened, and learned even more when I lived in that very area of Virginia for 3 years.
I liked the movie, too; and I feel like it's okay to like it if you know that it's not accurate at all and are educated about what really happened. Also, the main message of the movie is that white people came to civilize a society that already was civilized, and to steal from it, which is an important message for kids. I think I would never hace researched Pocahontas if not because of this movie, but ofc Disney should do a better job in represantation for the future. Esoecially stuff like clothes, that's so easy to get right if you only spoke to actual Natives
@@noreng4933 yep.
@Tay Numbers I know full well it isn’t her real name. It’s literally just a nickname and usually what history calls her so.......
Yo! We Alaskans are indigenous to North America as well! We're native American, just from Alaska. We got Inuit, Yupik, Cupik, St Lawrence Island Yupik, Aleut, Sugqiaq, Athabascan, Tlingit, Tsimshian, Eyak, and Haida people here. Just don't forget about us, yeah?
Hey! We didn’t forget about you. Love from down south (Arizona). Dine.
Aiin 💕 I feel the same sometimes too being Inuk in Canada (Nunavut) but I'd say we definitely have more space than what I can see Alaska has... Aakuluk and huge hugs
I’m arowak so my people live in modern day Puerto Rico and it’s a gray area. I just call my self indigenous
Woohoo Haida represents lol
happy indigenous peoples day!
and yes, you're seen!
the U.S. so badly need better education on native tribes when teaching American history. I would love to learn about native and indigenous culture, and its so sad now they are treated today
When a conqueror comes and rules over a people, it is very handy to them to portray those people is uncivilized or Savages this is not only done to people of color but just ask the Irish how that worked for them. Academia is not motivated to tell the truth about the natives of any land especially conquered lands. Instead they are motivated to justify you know that they took over and ruled over and marginalized Etc. You know when white school growing up I was taught about manzanar but I was not taught the Trail of Tears. We were taught Sacagawea and she was glorified but that is because we probably could not have settled the West without her. I don't blame her or Pocahontas they didn't know the future they were being there innocent hopeful solves helping no idea of the baser motivations Of the people that would follow the good people they assisted. if you rely on what you're taught in school and what you see on television you won't know
We are literally an hour away from Cahokia Mounds and one of the local school had their students, "Give one another Native names!" They also made paper headdresses. I was disgusted. They could literally do a virtual tour of a fairly local historical site, but instead chose cultural appropriation.
Im purepecha from michoacan mexico and im so proud of my people we still live in our ancestral land and we are bilingual most of or culture is still in practice to this day my town has ben continuesly inhabited for over 1000 years acording to historians but in reality we know we have ben here longer
You don’t even know....
🤣🤣🤣🤣
When people commit atrocities they always attempt to change the real history.
Well let’s be honest, Disney romanticizes a lot of stories. Almost all of them aren’t historically accurate so it’s not just Pocahontas.
Yeah, the Hunchback of Notre-Dame was completely different from the original story, otherwise it wouldn't have been kids friendly.
that’s true, but i feel that they can do better for shows that the ethnicity of the characters is important
That true, but there isn’t a lot of Native representation in media, so misrepresentations and stereotypes have more of an impact.
But Pocahontas was the only movie "based" on true events
It’s completely different when your representing an already under represented group. This has real world implications because of the combination the general public have of a lack of real world exposure to native Americans combined with this being the very few and very far in between representations of them. It’s not the same as any old Disney movie.
Also Disney has a thing of making anyone that isn’t a white character an animal or not visible for most of the movie e.g. Princess and the Frog and the latest one being Soul. Or having women of colour especially being overly objectified and sexualised e.g Esmeralda, Jasmine, Pocahontas especially when contrasted against the white princesses of Snow White, sleeping beauty and Cinderella who never have to show any skin. It’s just degrading and perpetuates the exotic other narrative.
Disney is weird like that so don’t act like it’s not there
Correction: she was taken and forced to marry john rolfe, years later. Historians argue, that her and smith never even interacted.
@@oliviarogers3559 well she was 13
@@oliviarogers3559 still, she would've been groomed/manipulated
@@oliviarogers3559 Of all the things to hate (in capital letters!), being cautious about consent involving a teenage girl and white man with a massive power imbalance seems like an odd one to choose. You do you though.
Yeah Smith told the same "princess saved me" story about something that happened to him in Turkey
I have to speak up because I read something written by the person who possesses the Diary of Pocahontas. Her and John Smith did interact, she did save his life. She was also a 10 year old child and her father did to man that Smith leave in order to make a treaty because he didn't like that his daughter was crushing on John Smith she was not forced to marry Thomas Rolfe. You know this whole video was about why don't you go to the source? Pocahontas captive diary why is it no one is at all interested and what Pocahontas said about Pocahontas and the events of her life?
I’m not an indigenous person, but I really enjoyed this reaction and learning from everyone.
As a non native person I always thought the main thing twilight did right was showing Native Americans as they did. I mean besides the magic. But even that was all to protect the tribe from an unstoppable evil rather then some sort of curse or anything bad that the tribe did.
I’ve heard some people in the fandom say it wasn’t great representation overall but if Twilight is one of the few films that get a positive reaction in this video, you know things need to change in Hollywood
There's also the fact that the tribe in Twilight is a real tribe and it's actually way more controversial.
@@RogueVideoRaven The tribe said it was but mainly without the vampire parts.
And like you should give Disney (and I'm white and trying not to offend anyone and if I do sorry) a little bit of credit at least they tried to make Pocahontas family friendly cause in reality being 13 and forced to marry a man who's in his 20s in super wrong and today that would be illegal. And if the report i did in Jr high was accurate she could of been naked when they first met. Those aren't exactly things you can put in Disney movies.
Twilight was a good movie, turning into wolves or shape shifter we wud called them skinwalkers lol growing up to stories of the wolf man.
Thank you for highlighting this. I am Indigenous from Canada and we do need more Indigenous stories made by Indigenous producers/writers/actors/directors etc!
Misty Knight gotta promote APTN
It’s crazy because Pocahontas was my favorite disney princess and movie growing up. I remember my grandmother always having an issue with it but I never really understood till I got older. It was a romanticized version of something tragic. I’m really glad these things are being talked about and we’re educating the new generation
I wish they included Little Creek from Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron!! I am super interested to see how they would react to him because I adored his character
One of my fav movies ever!
I'm surprised they didn't mention king of the hill
Didn’t like how he dressed but he was a decent guy.
Oh yeah! John Redcorn and his illegitimate son Joseph 😂😂😂
Natives know John Redcorn already.
I’m Ojibwe and Ho-chunk, and those two tribes are both very different. Every single tribe is very different. Portraying Native Americans is very risky and you should try to have Native people help you. Research the tribe you are trying to portray!
Im not native american but facts
You are from Wisconsin
redsippy02 Indeed!
@@nightwingnoir I am from wi and have friends they are hochunck
True. I'm Hunkpapa Lakota, Mvskoke Creek and Sac and Fox. The Creeks and Sac and Fox were removed to OK but each of the 37 or so tribes there are still different from one another, as are the 500+ total tribes here in America and people have no idea.
Finally us Natives are getting more recognition
@Chris Pax what?....
As you should
@TrinityAtkins
Ikr😕
Y’all got more recognition than Latin American Indians such as Aztec, Mayan, Incas, and even lesser known purepecha, aymara, guarani, Mapuche, etc. other than secret of the Incas and apocalypto I can’t really mention a movie with Latin American Indians. They just pile us up with mestizos the so called “Hispanic” which are actually mixed bloods that deny their indigenous side and have a very Eurocentric mind. They say that they are the “latin race” but do they really look like Julius Caesar? No.
I agree that Natives should play Native roles, ESPESCIALLY historical Natives. I also agree that Natives should be involved in writing screenplays about Natives, espescially regarding histoeical events. I also agree that non Native people don't really know the truth about Native experiences.
Now, let's be honest here, do you mean native 'looking' people should play native roles? Because I am of small stature, with pale skin, light brown hair and blue eyes, yet I am Chickasaw/Shawnee. You would never guess that I am Native American, so therefore would you say I would not be a good choice to portray such in a movie?
@@ajholt84 I am not Native, so Idk what their politics are... but that is a really good question.
I just agree that when there are Native characters or historical Natives on film, Natives should play those roles.
@@ajholt84 Ig you're mixed then? I feel like if the story calls for a mixed native or doesn't really need the clear visual then it doesn't matter. Otherwise, they would ofc look for actors that have stronger native features. Even with complexion and eye color, you might have other facial features like the shape of your eyes or nose or lips that can indicate you're native so it would ofc depend.
@@lolabint3411 So you're saying that looks do indeed matter. By this comment, not only do they have to BE Native American they also have to LOOK Native American. How is that any different than was is originally implied? So I couldn't play a Native American, despite my genes, simply because I don't 'look' the part. Interesting.
@@ajholt84 That's not what I said. I said it depends on the story of the film. If the story revolves around a Native American that's mixed, whether it's apparent or not that they're Native, you should be given the part bc, you are still Native and represent one of the many waya that a mixed Native can look like. But if the story is abt say...a full blooded Native or just requires a character where the fact that their Native has to be obvious for the story to work... someone with your features would not work. I think this is obvious?
Is it just me or does Kalder Ness look like a Disney character?
He does but I’m not complaining
He kinda resembles a prince charming
@Troye Lemon forreal doe
He looks scrumptious🤤
He is abnormally handsome.
What makes Indigenous names “crazy”? that Non Native folk can’t pronounce them?
Ask jhon smith he's the one who said it
zeke ross haha. True.
"Native" folk can't either because the overwhelming majority of them only speak English.
Same with African(American) names.
It's an old belief of "true names" which are potent symbols of magic protection in folklore. I suspect Natives had similar reasoning, despite not interacting with Europeans till British decided to visit everyone. Belief was that evil cannot locate a child or harm it until it learns child's "true name". So parents would give "True name" to a child at birth but use different one after that to ward off against evil. Slavs later drop this for patron pagan gods as means of protection (they later became Orthodox Saints after they converted to Orthodox Christianity).
White man says ''there's so much we can teach you''. Much more they could learn from the Indigenous if they would only open their eyes, and ears. And that's not just throughout history, that is very true still today.
I mean, that's honestly what happened at the beginning, wasn't it? White people coming to America with no clue how to survive and some Native Americans taking pity on them and teaching them how to deal so they didn't keep dying out every winter. (Like literally, from what I've learned, the first *several* attempts at starting American colonies ended with almost everyone dying in the winter and England having to send more people until the Native Americans started helping them.) You'd think that would have instilled some respect, but noooo, once the white people got established they decided they must be superior after all sigh. Because, you know, guns and stuff. e_e
Aman. I agree 💯. That's a good statement.
There was a lot of context missing from the Kimmy Schmitt scenes that I think are important to know to understand what they actually showed lol.
Well at least one of the reviewers got it and thought it was "funny" and knew it was more of an indictment of popular misconceptions
Yeah, I wish we could’ve gotten their reactions in context.
When I was younger I used to love Pocahontas bc she looked like me: brown skin, long dark hair and I connected with her. But the actual content of the movie was hurtful and made me very angry as John Smith undermined her and her people. It still upsets me bc there are many people in Canada and the US who still think like that fat governor.
William Bradford is a MUCH better role model. For his whole remaining life, the Plymouth folks and tribes lived in peace together. A shame more of the following generations didn't follow his example.
The Pocahontas movie is horrible, it is disrespectful to the entire native community, it is full of colonial propaganda and presents the fetishization of native women.
Idk, I’ve never loved or related to characters that looked like me on tv. It’s almost like there’s more to people than their race
As a child I had a picture book called "Pocahontas - headman's daughter" (translated from german) and it beautifully illustrated Pocahontas accurate historical life. Non of that Disney bs :)
Is there an English version of the book? If so, could you possibly send a link to where I can buy a physical copy? Preferably an Amazon link. Thank you in advance!
So shockingly twilight was the most accurate lol
3:02 cracks me up because she was 100% playing with them by rattling off some tracking information, and then when they're all impressed and in awe, she points to the crashed van.
I wish they gave more context to the kimmy schmit scene. I was hoping for a different reaction besides just confusion 😕
Doesn’t matter what tribe any of us are from, We all need to stand up and be vocal about the stigma and racism we deal with. Thank you all for participating in this. Its hurtful that even in this time that we’re experiencing all of this wonderful and powerful social injustice movements, that we’re still being ignored and and almost swept under the rug in a way.
They’ll always try to hide the awful things they did to us. From the Salem Witch trails to the trail of tears.... Thank you for standing up for the bigger picture of our heritage!
I wish they had reviewed some scenes from Outlander and Anne with an E... I'm not American but I'd love to learn more about native Americans!
If any of the reviews from black people are anything to go off, I'd presume they wouldn't be very positive :/ I don't blame them though. I felt bothered watching Outlander because Claire is supposed to be these beacon into the future of how Native Americans are treated but then feeds into colonialism and is super afraid of them at the beginning (not to mention the tone is very heavy on how scary the Native Americans are too - pretty disappointing).
Whatcha wanna learn? I’m Delaware/Iroquois. So I have some knowledge pertaining to my culture. What I was able to learn even after the genocide
I didn’t interpret it that way, I thought Claire was in awe of meeting the real people, who she had only read about in history... she wasn’t allowed to change the past but she did by not acting like a colonist and they befriended the local tribe, her nephew lived among them and married a Mohawk woman.,,and she mourned for the Mohawk Medicine woman that was killed. I always wonder if the French had won against the English would they have been kinder? They seemed to be more interested in assimilation than genocide... is that a misconception?
@@heebeejeebeez25 I mean, Claire wasn't a historian, her husband frank was, she was a nurse. Knowing how native Americans were back and that tribe in specific was definitely not among the things I expected her to know, especially given she's British and came from the 1940s. If native American culture is underlooked nowadays in their own country, I can only imagine what it was like in 1940s England.
Fun fact from Outlander: there is actual Cherokee being spoken! Pretty badly spoken, according to my teacher, but someone made an attempt.
I remember having a friend in Oklahoma that was Native American. It’s been a bit so I don’t really remember much but I remember how cool she was and that she would tell me stories. I wish I could remember them.
The truth is....Pocahontas was only 11-12 years old....when she met that guy...
You do realize people didn't live very long back then 30 was to what 75 is today
Love learning about indigenous people, I always thought they were such a strong people! May their culture continue to be preserved and protected !
You mean you didn't show them "Dances With Wolves", the only? Hollywood movie about native people?
Don’t forget Hostiles, Bury my heart at wounded knee, windtalkers, Geronimo, Last of the Mohicans, and wind river
There's also Apocalypto
Probably because that was a more realistic portrayal of how natives were, there wasn’t very much controversy when it came out, they had actual natives and the language and regalia accurately portrayed. The women weren’t wearing an over sexualized version of how non natives think they dressed.... just a thought.
@@mariatrombley8630 probably but it would have been nice to see it included. Because of the realism and their response to it.
I do like Disney's Pocahontas for how she deals with being patronized. They didn't show here but her song makes such a good point about how someone's culture isn't to be "untaught" as he said here, that message applies so much to several times and places.
Pochahontas look like Naomi Campbell had a daughter with Jacky Chan.
Disney based her off of Christy Turlington.
@V Nha no they don’t indigenous people from south america are very short and have different facial features
@@timmy-dnumber1990 what???? That's.....typical. smh
Her looks was designed off Naomi Campbell.and little mermaid used Alyssa Milanos likeness
@@jeringatai3156 do you know why they choose Naomi Campbell of all people?
I wish they did more from classic film, just talking about how so many non native people played them in film and the effect of that in depth.
Im from England, I have always been fascinated with Native American culture. Ever since I saw my dad watching the Last of the Mohicans that was the start of it and I think that's one of very few movies that puts native Americans in a good light I need more like this
I dont say Native Americans. I just say Native. Natives should def be the ones to tell their stories.
Well here’s the thing natives could be anyone so I use American Indian
Yeah in Canada most of us just say Native
@@theweirdestsmartchannel1842 American Indians not even correct American Indian will imply that they are American people that were from India.
@@Bibblesupremacy1992 according to American Indians the most correct terms they like are American Indian or aboriginal people and they hate they word Native American
This video was kinda done messy
I don't believe they were given enough context to understand what they were seeing, so alot of opinions were on things that were jokes or were references that would only make sense within the context of the movie.
I feel like a great opportunity was messed up
Same, but I was having trouble phrasing it in a way that didn’t sound like whining so thanks for saying it
At least one good thing came out of twilight
I wish unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt had context. Her character tried everything to not be native, and do what her parents wanted, she wanted to just be white and she played that up. She’s like 45 in her flashbacks where she’s supposed to be like 16, It’s literally a comedy.
Please touch the egg buddy
Yeah it’s weird that they weren’t give any context when reviewing the show, like not even that she wears contacts and dyes her hair
The whole of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt was parodying everything, so that bothered me. They could have shown the scene where the dad says that he was in the Air Force, joking about himself and all that.
@@Ikajo I loved that scene. "Jackie I too have flown on the Iron Eagle." Then he was like girl, I was in the Air Force for 6 years.
I took a Native Americans in Film class from a Native American professor and I was struck by the fact that (at least 20+ years ago) there still wasn’t any fantastic representation.
I thought Dances with Wolves was a good one. Even though they did present the Indian as to having no gun. They got the Native language and introduced their way of life to giving us a little understanding. I loved the Native actors.
I love how so many people bashed the movie twilight lol yet this shows how accurate they wanted to be with certain things. People bashing the wrong stuff smh
They didn’t bash twilight for the native representation though they bashed it for bad writing and portraying really horrible relationships as romantic (in a book aimed at young teens). The movie was also criticized for Kirsten Stewart’s ‘flat acting’ but since Bella was written so blandly it seems to me that maybe she was actually a good actor portraying an insipid character.
@@tyleet99 Yes they did bash twilight when it came out lmao...I found it bananas they would do it but they certainly did. Obviously not everyone did but I definitely remember hearing people talk garbage. I felt some would find anything to bash the movie..it was wild smh I agree.
I love this. We definitely need more Native representation ❤
@Hotep Yakub Enword Jogger I like you
Hotep Yakub Enword Jogger racist
Engiethefriendlyengineer racist
@@poptropical thankyou I wear that with pride. But seriously, you're one of those dumbasses who call people racists so much that it eventually means nothing
@Chris Pax thats not an insult. i’m native and i’m only be with a native man.
To Brandy Lewis: you mean Pocahontas, aka Amonute, married John Rolfe, NOT John Smith!
Indian in the Cupboard was way ahead of its time.
Hollywood and films do the same to us mexicans 🙄... No, speedy Gonzales is NOT accurate;No, México is not a big desert; No, we do not use a sarape and sing mariachi all day long; NO, you can't use a "Moctezuma" or "Cuauhtemoc" costume; Tenochtitlan was a big Lake, not a desert; we allready had our civilizations before Hernan Cortés arrived to Veracruz, we were not savages; and yes, we are Americans too, because América is a continent not a country; we speak spanish because of Spain but we do have Native languages and tribes, etcétera.
Oh, and taco Bell is NOT Mexican, those are not real tacos. 🙄🌮
Anyways love Native Américan people and culture, tons of love from México. 🥰
PD: Sorry for my bad english.
I'm glad they included The Indian in the Cupboard! That was a nice surprise. Was hoping maybe they would then include Man of the House and Free Willy too. Both had a Native American figure that was important to the story.
* EDIT: Oh, and also Shanghai Noon! They had a whole tribe portrayed in that one. Man, I didn't realize how many movies there were... I could think of quite a few more! Hope they'll do a Part 2
@@annterashita1770 omgosh and Dancing With Wolves too!
In elementary and middle school, I was kind of obsessed with Native American history and culture. I was so fascinated with the way they lived and worked with nature instead of tearing everything down
i definitely learned a few things here but i knew all the portrayals of native americans were not always accurate.
There are way better sources than Hollywood to learn about any culture.
@Camp Powhatan I would say you're about ready to write for Hollywood.
Keep on wishing she was a moor🤣
@@jr.solaris253 I cannot even begin to imagine her basis for Saint Pocahontas is a Moor. Lol
Like I said, I can't even imagine where she got that idea you know where why she would think that it is so. Oh my do know that there are people who are melungeon who are probably descendants of part of the Roanoke colony Bart Ito did Arabs take their own Souls slave? Is there something I'm missing?
Kalder Ness looks like a disney character
The name sounds like one as well
Calder Ness is a joke!!! They are 5 dollar Indians who were to lazy to get real jobs. Not a single drop of native blood!!!
Yay a fellow choctaw. I am a registered tribal member
Wait, I thought pocahontas was forced to marry John ROLF not John Smith.
You didn't think that, you knew that. Liberals have their filthy, diseased, maggot-infested hearts set on ruining everyone's childhood joy.
Yes, it was John Rolfe. It was probably just a slip of the tongue
@@Dennis-nc3vw Says the one who called them that
According to a diary of his forced to marry anyone, but not only did she not marry John is treaty with the whites depended on it because Pocahontas was a child when she knew John Smith but she most probably did have a crush on him tell her diary does not say so things she writes in it lead us to this conclusion. The treaty Powhatan made with the fort depended on John Smith's absence because certainly Powhatan did not like his influence over his daughter.
@@Dennis-nc3vw what childhood story is that getting on the school bus and tormenting the Indian kids? I can feel your hatred from here. Hatred is not our way. What is your adult Joy? Perhaps putting the Confederate flag on your truck and dragging somebody that's the wrong color behind it? Your hatred isn't welcome here.
Definitely continue this series! There are a lot more movies that include indigenous people's portrayals and it's important to highlight the inaccuracies. You could also have them react to when Sacheen Littlefeather represented Marlon Brando when he rejected his Oscar for his portrayal in The Godfather.
Everytime I would watch a movie or show that had a historical Native American person I would read the books based off of the facts that actually happened. For example I LOVED watching the movie Pocahontas because I thought they made a Disney princess that represented me. As I got older and learned more about history, I realized that wasn't true at all. I really hope they make a movie on the real representation of Pocahontas. I would even love to see Sacagawea.
me too
There is a 3 hour movie about her it was released years ago it don't know exactly how accurate it was. It is non animation
I Agree. I too am 52% Native American myself. '
Weekly Mental breakdowns if you’re talking about The New World they still romanticise her story a lot.
Also, the Code Talkers were integral to winning WW2 using their own language as code because the Germans couldn’t break their Code. They were such high security they were heavily protected, a secret weapon....Orders were to shoot and kill any Navajo’s if captured so they couldn’t be tortured for their code. There is a movie called Windtalkers (2002) about it. After the way they’ve been treated there were still many indigenous who enlisted against Hitler. Their Code caused the Japanese to surrender! They were HEROES but never given the national credit and attention they deserved. Also an epic movie about it made in 1994, the Code Talkers
I got to meet Sam Begay at a pow wow, that is until security so I can talk to me LOL it took me several minutes to realize who it was I was talking to he's so very down-to-earth. Natives don't really have a true concept of celebrity. It's what you actually do that's important in our culture. Not how pretty you are how famous you are how much money you have. It's how you take care of each other. By the way she would not let him talk to me even though he wanted to. Because I'm Dineh.
Okay buzzfeed!! I am thrilled to see Native representation!!!!! My people hardly ever get this, this is so refreshing
At least in the 90s, we were taught about the French & Indian War...in Michigan at least (probably because of Fort Detroit). In the movie Smoke Signals, we were introduced to the idea that hey they don't live like what we see on tv/movies all the time. We understand that people are nuanced. If you have amazon prime, look up the movie Fry Bread. It's another great example of what life's like (it is a mockumentary, and it's hilarious and I love it! )
I grew up in New Mexico and I had so many native friends and I learned so much from them. Lets no forget the amazing food.
☝🏽🤓I’m Black American of the Greek Moors/Scottish/Choctaw and I LOVE being me! My ancestry is so rich and amazing and full of history, culture, and rhythm! 😎 I wish EVERYONE could take pride in where they come from and what makes them who they are and NOT then ever turn around an$ imagine that it somehow makes you BETTER than those not just like you. Just take pride in yourselves and be a good person and kind to all others.
AMEN 👏🏼
Im not native american but im indigenous in the aztec tribe of mexico.
We have a Guachichil from Mexico in our channel. Feel free to check out our content as we talk a lot about issues facing indigenous people south of the US.
I just want to point out that she didn't marry John Smith. She was forced to marry John Rolfe.
Well Pocahontas didn’t marry John Smith, she married John Rolfe but yes she was Forced into it
I think it’s time to include Pueblo Native American in videos, not many American know we are still here thriving
I guess the Ness brothers are like 0.0001% Native American or something.
That's what I was thinking exactly
Blood quantum is a colonized belief. Who are you to say they’re not native?
@@ShawolxD They don't look native, so it must be a small percentage. They still have white privilege. A lot of white families lie about having a native grandma.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the ness brothers spoke there tribal language and knows there traditions.. I know a lot of full blooded natives that know nothing about there culture and history. Wanna be other races except there own .
Aieshoo 1234 who cares.... they grew up on the Rez, automatically makes them “Rez out” lol
My girlfriend's related to the REAL Pocahontas, and her name weren't 'Pocahontas', it was Matoaka.
Suuuuure she was.
@@niltomega2978 Apparently so. She's traced her ancestry. Apparently, she's got a lot of Choctaw, Huron and Mohawk blood.
Idk if I should be believing this but I somehow just believe it's true even though I'm a bit confused cause it happened long long ago which is nearly impossible to even trace it back
@@CockneyRebel1979 She has Choctaw, Huron and Mohawk blood ... and yet Pocahontas was Powhatan/Pamunkey?
The Indian in The Cupboard is one of my favorite childhood movies.
Irene Badard, actress of Pocahontas, is Lakota and Alaska Native.
For the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt bit, what I got from it is that the character is the biological daughter of native heritage parents, who is embarrassed to be a native and wants to be a "white woman", thus dying her hair blond, and learning "proper" English to be more white, rejecting her heritage. Though, spoiler, later she really regrets this decision and tries to become more native in all the wrong ways possible.
In all cases, I think it's sad to reject your culture and your native history. Every culture is beautiful. Don't disregard it because you're embarrassed or your culture is looked down on. Be proud of who you are. Know your history and dig into your roots.
This was my mom. She rejected being Kanien'kehá:ka (Mohawk) and now I have to try and learn about my heritage on my own or through my Opa which can be hard when not living near them.
Sacagawea: Reads tracks in the literal snow
White dude: So impressive!!!
Patrickisanavajo is a good UA-cam channel for people to learn about natives and about the many things they do on reservations especially what it’s like growing up native through memes and other videos made by natives
I'm writing a comic that has a Native American lead character, but I'm not native (I'm black, living in England originally from Ghana) and a black Portuguese lead.. Trying to do as much research as I can to understand Native culture, especially modern Natives since its a modern day setting, so I can get as much depth and "correctness" into my comic as possible.. I hope to see more positive and accurate representation for Indigenous people. I hope everyone writing with Native leads will do their research and be open minded.. (The comic is called Brielle & Bear and will be up on Webtoon, any Natives that wanna help me craft Bear's character, feel free to get in contact!) Big love
I agree that we need more native people calling the shots in the creation of major films that feature native Americans. I'm curious what indigenous people think of the quality of authenticity in movies like, "Dances with Wolves," "The Last of the Mohicans," and "Never Cry Wolf." This last one was made in the 1980's and it took place in Alaska or Canada, I believe.
They should have had them react to "Smoke Signals" cuz I've never met a Native who didn't love that movie. Pretty sure it's required.
I don’t think that’s the point of this video. It’s more about addressing the misrepresentation in media
I'd like to see their reactions to Dances With Wolves
I'm surprised they didn't use Wonder Woman because that one not only mentions that Native people had a role in WWI, but it also has what is probably the only time I have seen a Native actor speak his people's language on screen
Pocahontas never married John Smith, she may have met him at one point. She was forced to marry some guy who owned a tobacco plantation. She died being coming back from England. Should have shown some of the Natives from Clint Eastwood movies.
The 3 dudes were VERY white passing but had a lot to say about white people. Are mixed people still considered native?
I seen native people (in Québec, Canada) who were looking very white(blue/green eyes and pale skin/hair) but they weren't mixed(at least, not that they know of).
@@sarah-yasminekadiri7211 are you sure they weren't Metis?
@@AyeeeItsCam the whole reserve looked similar so nah
I noticed this too.... I've met a lot of really white looking people who have a lot of stuff to say about white people but they "can because great grandma was 50% cherokee" 😂😂
Mixed people are only considered native if they still look and resemble to a full blooded native, so the "Sioux members" here are not native but white, probably 1/16th native which is nothing, I would say the same with the "Shohone" one.
The ironic thing is, they say they tend to avoid movies like this due to how inaccurate the representation is, which is totally fair. However white folks like myself who grew up with this film had an appreciation for these people and their culture. So sure, while it’s not accurate, it still has a story to tell, with morals that can be taken away from it.
Eastern Shoshone represent❤️❤️❤️❤️
2:29 pocahontas didn't marry John Smith she married a man named John Randolph
Reservation Dogs was freaking hilarious.
I know Pocahontas is really inaccurate but i have to admit that i love the Disney movie and the character
Never expected Twilight to have a good representation of Native Americans lmao
The entire cast who played Jacob’s family is from an actual tribe. Taylor Launter is only a little bit native.
I remember reading that when the Quiluetes were cast in Twilight the casting crew actually background checked all of them because he wanted them to all be native American. Kind of like how every single voice actor in Moana is either Polynesian or Polynesian descent xxx
Damn
These native Americans sure look alot like the people who took their lands.
Need more representation man some movies of native leads
How is Columbus day still a thing? The cute story about thanksgiving?? Sort out your history America!
Once traditions are entrenched it is extremely difficult to get people to give them up, especially when they're tied to nationalism. That goes for any country, not just the USA.
Nobody cares about Columbus Day and it is slowly being replaced with Indigeneous Peoples Day in various states. As for Thanksgiving, everyone knows the cute story is a joke. It's celebrated like a harvest feast day which other countries have, too.
@K C Yeah, but it's still a joke because the Natives were in fact fucked over soon after on a massive scale, even if it wasn't by the hand of that colony at that time. Still, it's IRRELEVANT, because Thanksgiving doesn't need to have anything to do with that history. It's a harvest festival about showing thanks and being with family. That's it. I agree that people who don't want to celebrate it are woke idiots. There are actually some Native Americans who celebrate it, too.
My mom met a woman named Nadine during a summer job they became close friends. She invited us to a Pow Wow so that my brother and I could experience the culture. My grandmother never talked about her heritage. I wish I would have asked more questions back then.