I Tried DPS WEAVER in Guild Wars 2 - Thoughts
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As an ele main things you said are true. Even at top benchmarks, you have lower damage than lots of classes with four/five times the effort. Condi weaver can deal 44.3k dps at its peak but its even harder than the power weaver. The reason I'm playing the weaver is it's really fun for me and I can keep it up with other players' damage.
Some tips:
- To increase the damage with almost no effort use Arcane Blast only on Fire/Air. You have extra power from Fire and extra ferocity from Air.
- You can actually deal good CC with sw/dg but you need to know your skills. You can swap to Air use 2 than instead of swapping to Air again, swap to Earth and now you can use 3 and 5 to deal more CC. You can do the same thing with sw/wh but use 4 instead of 5 but it has less CC damage than the dagger.
- If you are not gonna use the Weave Self, don't play Weaver this is not debatable. You can reach a burst 64k DPS at the beginning of your rotation and for short phased fight this is HUGE. Even if you can't complete your Weave Self you should use the skill because you are getting lots of buffs while using the skill. Getting buffs according to your attunement and getting HUGE decrease in attunement swap time. The point of completing Weave Self is you'll get all the buffs in the Weave Self and keep them for some time.
This class has really good bursts and can deal really good damage if you squeeze the class but it's not for you if you don't like doing four/five times the effort than the other players.
These are some good tips. Thanks for sharing!
the way muk played weaver he literally waited almost twice the cd for attunement swaps, ofc his dps would be abysmal. and the power weaver loop is such an insanely easy to play build, i just have no words. you just swap fire -> fire -> air -> air and press all buttons except air 2 and 5 while finishing your autos and you should easily do 35k+ doing just that
@@demenion3521 For the attunement swapping wise yeah its easy in "default loop" but weaver can increase its damage by timing its auto attacks that's one of the hard parts. You should never cancel your auto attacks and you should never start an auto attack for nothing. Letting one unnecessary auto attack between your skills can lose you 1k dps that's why weaver is so hard.
Another and the hardest part of the weaver is Weave Self. With so short attunement time its really easy to leak auto attacks between attunements and skills and that can lead you to loss LOTS of damage.
I'm an ele main, and the basic rotation that you did is good for starting out. As you learn the other elements and weapons, suddenly the damage and the CC goes up. Like with any class, if you know your class, you can pull off a lot.
@@enterprise1701e The CC is still pretty anemic compared to most other classes, most can get 800-1000 off in the time it takes a weaver to cycle 3 elements to get 400 off. It would have been nice to have a trait that boosts CC for damage or something.
4:12 "Easy to learn? lol" and "Intensity? YES" are the best annotations for this class ty
before I even watch the video: my condolences
The pain is not worth the content.
A Dev plays Ele and makes it a pain to play. He must hate fun.
Honestly, as a weaver player, some of the weapons flow really well together for the dps weaver rotation in a sensible fashion if you were already an ele player. Now imo this isn't the case for the pistol as the bullet mechanic mixed with the dual attunement gives way more to have to think about and optimize but at least ye old power sword dagger(or warhorn i guess) weaver is honestly not too bad.
I made a Weaver Char specifically for SOTO cause a wizard using fire and lightning sounded awesome. Got great numbers on the golem and took her into Soto. She now sits at the end of a jumping puzzle cause the amount of work wasn’t worth it lol. My condolences to Ele mains.
So glad to know Chopin, Beethoven and Rubinstein have a class in GW2 that siuts their playstyles.
Laughs in Bach
Beethoven is also deaf lmao
@@anders8461 considering no eli main ever reacts to audable callouts, this checks out as well.
Dps weaver was my first Character and still my favorite and most played. I don't know how to play it well and it doesn't do much damage but I find it fun so for me it's ok
It can do allot of dmg you just need some to give you 25 might stack and some who can give you alc or quick..... Welcome to my suffering
I feel the exact same way. The weaver class is just fun. Not really good for raids, but fun to solo and do story instances with. I love the slides... so fun. :)
I was ele main on core GW2 and it was fun, but since HoT release I really stopped caring and nowadays I barely use this class anymore. They should reward the hardest to play classes, not nerf them more.
Correction around 1:08, even if you don't get the perfect weave it's still very valuable to use Weave Self. Woven air gives you a +10% strike modifier, that's pretty good. If you don't get perfect weave that still a strike modifier active for 20 seconds, which is strong. A lot of people are going to hear you say "you get nothing" but that's incorrect.
Fire elemental is fine of course, especially if you're starting out, but you don't actually have to do anything complicated to benefit from Weave self. You can just hit the button and do the non-WS rotation and still benefit greatly from the strike modifier.
Totally agree with you on this Muk. It's something that has confounded me as an Ele main for a long time. Still we get more nerfs for some reason while other classes that can single button more DPS get new more powerful abilities. I'd switch what i main but I'm stubborn and i continue to hold out hope that videos like this will be seen by Anet and they might have mercy on us. Lol
I think that mostly comes from the playtest where some people were hitting something like 120k DPS on golem. I think ANET is still basing nerfs off that one test.
@@littlekong7685oh yes they are 1 player hits that dmg on a golem perfect timing and you dont need to worry about anything nerf weaver why why why you cant do that in a normal fight 1 player ruined weaver and its bin how long? Fun thing this is a wvw thing all class can win from a weaver like its nothing they can play for def build and still win if you play a def build on weaver you get 2 shot if you dont you get 1 shot.... Im also stubborn and refuse to switch to an other class and i hate that allmost no youtuber plays weaver so the balance team just keeps nerfing it over and over an over and over im sick of chaning gear stats over and over and over and over or just getting new gear over and over😢
@@startjim123456 dude , just go find another game, don't waste your last 2 neurons in gw2, you need 1 neuron to eat and the last neuron to breath. You clearly have not seen what Catalyst did to PvP, you clearly have not seen what Weaver can do in WvW, zerg or Roaming, the Zerg Meteor shower Apocalypse or the almost 100% evade weaver. The staff apocalypse tempest or weaver in PVE. If you don't see videos or logs, is maybe because people don't want to yell " NERF ME PLEASE".
That's how I feel. I used to play condi holo and it was like 100 apm, dodges off cooldown, no utility, all for like 32k if I was really lucky. They thought that was unacceptable and gutted condi holo. Meanwhile reaper goes into shroud, presses two buttons and gets 38k. I have no clue what they think when nerfing.
@@limpingllama57 remember , just because you are bad at playing video games, doesn't mean the class is bad. It means you are not good enough or the class have something that is breaking the game. Example : " ua-cam.com/video/5NB8j_s6kSc/v-deo.html " .
I started learning weaver some days ago and it feels amazing! Having alot of fun with the rotation and to me the cc feels fine (when attuning to earth too after fire/fire)
This build you were playing is actually the power LI build for ele. You don't need to learn a rotation for it beyond the attunement swapping. You just do your fire-fire-air-air-repeat whenever those are off cooldown, and otherwise you mash whatever weapon skills you can and arcane blast if it's available (avoiding only those that move you away from the target, like that CC skill), and the other utility skills whenever you're in main fire. Basically attuenement rotation + whack-a-mole everywhere else. At least that's how I learned it, and I was getting 34k the last time I tried.
But yeah, CC is nonexistent on this build, it's the worst kind of melee (i.e. half your weapon skills bring you close to your target if you weren't, so you can't even take advantage of max. melee range to freely move around), and it's extremely squishy. But it is the easiest power build for ele that I'm aware of, so that's what I use when I play ele and I can't do condi (tempest)...
everyone: anet hates the warrior
ele players: ...
Tempest is poping off atm
As a sort-of Weaver Main .. oi!!! Yes, fair points. It's an awful lot of work for very ordinary results. The best I hope for these days is to stay out of Downstate for as long as I can. As for the Weave Self Elite .. well the Elites say it's the Must Have Skill for DPS ... let's let them have that and the rest of us will use a skill that we see some benefit from. I confess I went Weaver for the RP of my Sword and Dagger wielding Half Elf Fight/M.U. and now, well, I can do that on other Ele's if I want ... but I have spent two years playing my Weaver so dropping her is just not happening :D
Started playing GW2 earlier this year and started with Ele Weaver. Holy sh*t what was I thinking lol. It's fun as hell, but the effort to reward ratio is insane compared to the other ele specs.
THe CC problem is why I run Fresh Air over Bolt through the Heart. And I make sure I have 100% crit chance.
With FA, you can attune air, press air 2 for daze, this will crit, proccing FA and resetting the CD on Air attunement. Then immediately attune air again for Air 5.
For bigger break bars, you can attune to earth for Gale Strike (earth/air dual skill). After landing the attack, immediaely attune to any other other element to access Earth 4 and 5.
Technically water is best because it gives you chill on the dual skill.
Is that a lot of effort just to do what Rev does with a single Staff 5? Yes.
Welcome to Ele :^)
I main ele and dps ele the last 5 years or so has felt so bad. Every single time, the SC-type top players get insane damage, while the rest of us normal players do average damage. Then it gets nerfed and now we can't keep up with other (much simpler) classes. Feels bad, man. Feels bad.
This is what is astounding. HoT comes out Tempest is the go to for raw damage output. It gets nerfed. Then it rinses and repeats for the rest of the elite specs.
Honestly it's fine if they need that nerf, as long as there is an eventual trade off. Either survivability or some major support mechanic with each of the attunements at a core level. They are supposed to be powerful spellcasters then they need to be treated as such.
Condi Weaver was the first class I broke 20K DPS on, so it'll always have a special place in my heart. I know it's not great, but I mostly play open world stuff, and my Trailblazer sword/dagger treats me well enough.
You should try pistol condi weaver with Viper's. You can reach 40k DPS with half the effort of power weaver
@@kureysalponce i have gold again or feel like getting gold i wil try it you know how many times i need to keep rerolling gear thanks to ANET and there bullshit balance patch for Weaver😢
Ele has been using two stats for a good 6 years, why change?
You have all Berserk and Viper, I don't understand the problem especially since obtaining ascendant items is a matter of a few hours
Anet balance philosophy is so strange, I remember something I heard when power mech was a thing and spamming 111 on it did more dmg than 90% of other speccs. I didnt see it myself but apperntly Anet will never balance DPS around diffuculity or utility. Complexity/less utility will never do more dps then other speccs.
I love Weaver
Ele main here again. Yes I play several instruments, even taught some years back. I think of the other 2 ele mains I know, both are also musicians.
Do qheal cata next lol. But u won't find a [good?] guide likely
You hit the nail on the head as to why I hate dps ele, now because of the effort but because of how restrictive it is which sound waierd since you always have 20 weapon skills thanks to your elements.
I do love heal Elementalist and would recommend it to everyone because you real feel like you have options to tackle different challenges without sacrificing to much of your main role.
Heal alac ele got same problems most of the time you do stupid rotation and cut off the ability to use utilities or even heal
As someone who once mained Tempest and Weaver I can say that it is fun. Fire/Air Power Weaver is one of the easier rotations (for the Elementalist), but it is still a lot. But that's why people like playing this class. I can not stand LI auto attack builds... it's boring. So the complexity and flow of the rotations is part of the class (if you don't like that you will most likely not find an Ele build that is fun for you). So that part is fine...
Where I completely agree with you is the balance. You have to play at a significantly higher skill level than any other class to match their DPS while having really shitty access to utility and boons... This has to be balanced, otherwise it's just frustrating being out dpsed by someone afk auto attacking... I don't understand ANets balancing on this class (that's why I switched to Guardian... FB is equally complex, but you provide something to your team for the amount of effort you put in).
As an ex Ele main, everything you said was correct and why I started losing interest in Ele and on a broader scale in the game overall. I know this isn't really a healthy perception, but I can't deny that I had and still have these feelings.
The biggest issue I have with Weaver is that there's no utility, 100% melee, fragile af.
When we still had staff, at least you could range for uptime (and the rotation was more fun).
Elementalist needs a weapon that can range (though it should be better in melee) and has utility to it *Looking at you spear*
Maybe try Tempest instead, the Condi DPS build is simpler than other Ele ones and the spec innately has lots of utility.
@@sanguin3 DPS Tempest is cursed by having Fresh Air talent. It gives best damage, but completely butchers your rotation. Half of the time you just sit in the overload air cast.
@@sanguin3 thanks it’s nice of you to suggest. I already run most ele builds but all of them lack CC, I guess that’s just what ele is at this point. Other picks are either easier, or doing more at the same time, or both
@@NekoNrvnqsr Fresh air is not the best damage for DPS Tempest. With condi tempest you are not even using the Air trait line. Fire/Earth/Tempest is the way to go and with full Viper's and pistol/warhorn. You can easily reach 40k dps with half the effort of power weaver.
Weaver is my main and I love it, but it’s true that it is more work for less gain. But it is a lot of fun to play in WvW.
Weave Self gives buffs for each element as you attune to them. Before you cycle through all attunements you also can swap twice as fast. This is great for taking advantage of traits that proc on attunement swap and also gives you more adaptability. This is difficult to take advantage of in PvE while trying to do a rotation.
Once you attune to all elements, the buff then lasts for only 10 seconds. But you can benefit from individual element buffs for much longer if you hold off from cycling through all four. This way you can extend the duration of, for example, the damage buff from air for up to 15 more seconds if you started it in Air.
Each buff in Weave Self for each element is quite strong, but you don’t need most of them in a DPS role. They are much more useful in WvW.
Once you get the flow, it’s a lot of fun. I can understand if it is more frustrating to get there.
Can anyone tell me what Arenanet's current balance philosophy is, or point me to a post by any of the developers that explains their balance philosophy? Because I really don't understand so many build balance decisions, and why certain weapons are allowed to become completely useless in any game mode, because the meta weapons are so much better, that it would be ridiculous to use anything but the meta build weapons. Shouldn't all weapons be viable, to promote more builds and play styles that are at least close to performing as well as the meta builds, so players can choose which play style they want to play, instead of being forced and shamed into playing only certain meta builds?
This is the result of the fact that the only metric in this game is DMG and the fights are so simple that they do not provide any utility to weapons.
This whole dev team should make more interesting fights that require more than just clicking the rotation on the DMG, then we could start talking about the variety of weapons for different tasks
Minor note: You should wait to use Sword Air 3 until you're able to go back into Fire, and swap to Fire as you're using it. Swapping attunements while using a skill won't interrupt it, and the increased Power being in Fire gives you makes the skill hit harder.
Weaver is one of those specs I have more fun playing in open world, they have some great self-sustain tools that don't get much use in instanced combat but really shine when you're on your own.
Power weaver was my first DPS with complex rotation which I've learnt, played and enjoyed (still prefered Fresh Air rotation over Bolt to the Heart). Sadly not playing it right now because of meh-warhorn and chono being great again.
power weaver rotation is deceptively very easy and it flows and loops so nicely. One of the most satisfying rotations to do imo. Even the weave self rotation isnt that hard, you can do an easier version of weave self, basically as long as you touch each element once you will get the perfect weave buff.
definitely agree on overall balance design though. classes that bring very little utility should be blasting a ton of DPS. Cough Cough thief and ele
“Pianochist” in the chat killed me 😂
Of all my characters, I’ve yet to make an ele; Muk proves exactly why haha😅
I love my ele so when picking up a dps to start raiding with this was the first thing i tried (sw/wh version). After many hours of practice I dropped it for spellbreaker instead with immediate better results; more CC, tankier, easier to track auto chains and full counter/endure pain shenanigans. kept sc/wh condi weaver as a backup for range/condi fights and found it much easier than the melee sword version.
lolz, Power Weaver, well 1st with sword the reason you don't really use Water or Earth, is that they are both i guess the best word for it is Disengage Skill, Water will move you back and create a small Field, and Earth you will go under ground for a sec, and pop back up meant to be Finisher for Fields.
i would typically recommend Warhorn as it can keep the Fireworks Relic up, i have kept it up on myself 100% for an encounter. Also your primary Dmg is coming from you sword skills, and with Fire and Air Skills, so i would be using my 2 and 3 skill off CD, and you Fire/Air skill when your in that combo and can do the 3 skill, with i will point out is very powerful, the Fire 3 skill is essentially a weaker version of Fire Grab, the ele dagger 5 skill, which power is increased if the Foe is burning, the Air 3 Skill is a multi hit skill but also applies Vuln, so something like Air Overload. with the warhorn skill your suppose to stagger then between swaps so you have 1 avalible each time the Warhorn is in an attunement. As for the Elite i would say it is typically up to the player, i would i've played around, with success, with my favorite skill Take Root, but you can also use Fiery Greatsword, which would give more damage and a buff to dmg, but you also have to keep the elemental rotation up.
If you want to replicate Weaver rotations on another class, try playing DPS Scrapper with a bunch of kits.
I would like to see the look on Mukluk's face when he realizes that staff weaver is also possible. More CC and boon options, and you are ranged.
the time it takes to get to your CC skills is why I like running fresh air over bolt to the heart. You can at any time double tap air and and get fully attuned to air. But unlike most classes this also breaks your rotation and you have to start over and potentially skip skills if they are on CD.
I have also switched to scourge for my primary dps class too because weaver while interesting to play definitely feels like its way to hamstrung for its tiny bit more dps than other classes can do.
Before you can do this, you will have already killed half of the team in raids CC that is not instantaneous are useless
@@UA-camChillZone in normal weaver yes, with the fresh air trait its just a quick double tap of air attunement and you're instantly fully attuned to air. You can do air sword 2 dagger 5, then attune to earth and use the dual skill for more CC if theres time. Its not ideal but its something. Sill not good though.
Not that it matters but with Unravel, sword/dagger has a strong burst rotation you can use for stuff like dungeons
I started with ele as my first class back in the day. After branching out to alts, I feel like ele is like playing with a handicap.
Currently leveling a Sylvari elementalist just for aesthetics, well knowing I probably quit playing the class after reaching 80 or unlocking tempest :D
I'm a filthy casual and kinda like my weaver...but I don't continually swap the various elements. I like having a mixed palate of half fire/half air, say, but if i take damage I can add water for a bit and recover, they swap back in. If I switch to earth I get an HP boost while I do. I am running celestial since I used one of the free level 80 upgrades. She seems a tad more survivable overall than the elementalist since there is less standing close waiting for the big elemental attack to pop off.
I stopped playing GW2 in 2020 and was an Ele main playing both power and condi weaver. Good to see that years later A-Net is still not rewarding players who can master this abomination of elite spec and these rotations (especially condi weaver).
Edit: I also remember people stealing my FGS....
omg, the colors you chose for the table match my country's flag xD awesome
I do feel like a lot of the DPS build guides need a 'comfy' version, where they swap some of the dps for defence, utility, etc
I was Ele main in vanilla and this was exactly the reason, why I quit the game back then
weaver is rough but fun. i'm still working on getting my numbers up, but there are plenty of cc's. you just have to know when a cc is required and rotate ahead... which can be annoying.
I dont really play weaver for many of the same reasons (also ele just feels bad if you arent good at it) but sw/wh does actually give quite a bit of utility to you and the party which kinda makes up for pressing 5k apm for mediocre dps
It's my favorite class/subclass that I'm bad at.
Weaver sword/dagger does have a good amount of CC if you don't commit to a rotation, but then you lose damage. Just from the weapons:
Air, sword 2, dagger 5
Air/earth 3
Earth dagger 4
But once again it's coping for a class I love but don't play well with
Salutations Muk , I am a Weaver main and after watching I can honestly say all solid ,very solid facts but your looking at the "Weaver" specialization from a wrong aspect , So to spare you from what I'm sure your comment section has already have provided
" WEAVER" is a Class which is very flexible but in its flexibility its tougher .
Basically , Yes ,it can heal , do taxes , binge a MUK-season ,feed the dogs and chase someone all the way back to the spawn point but if you want to have all that. well, I think the video is explaining that part in great depth .
P.S.
Keep on making the awesome content
I Iike the idea of this profession spec. Always looked so cool to me, but! It's a pain to play is since you must in the end press too many keys as Muk said :/
Edit: I hope to see same video for Mesmer 🥳
Start half cocked on air, use weaver self fully attune on air and you get a 10% dmg buff for 10 seconds
weaver should give both alac and quickness to compensate. temp and cata dont need it compared to weaver.
I would suggest trying the version with warhorn/flame legion rune/fresh air. Cc is a lot more responsive and the rotation feels less strict as anytime you mess up can just start over in air/air
I find pistol condi weaver easier to play and easier to do more dmg. The rotation isn't that hard really after u just learn which bullet spender to use.
Edit. It's even less ping friendly due to bullet skills being faster than sword animations. I also reccomend using Unravel. It's a fun mechanic and there are no (close to none) Weaver builds that use it.
I find myself getting bored on other classes, but weaver feels exciting to play. Even if it isn't 100% meta (lacks utility)
I actually really like power weaver
I commonly make this joke that im playing the piano for 44k dps but i die in one hit
I guess I am a bit of a Pianochist... but I use scepter/focus with all ranged attacks...
Power dps weaver flows the nicest out of all the ele power specs for me. Like chain to chain. Power cata which I used to play a ridiculous amount just always feels clunky in comparison. And tempest still feels weird with the overloads and using melee weapons, bit slow and boring. (Not including fresh air scepter weaver)
To be honest, I put 5 fingers on 1-5 and 5 Fingers on F1-F5. Then I press them randomly. And it works.
why does anet not make cc better for elementalist?
I was hoping you would do Weaver next! I tried it so many times but I just can’t anymore lol.
Should have waited on power weaver since the upcoming patch is going to buff scepter in a manner specifically for power weaver to use (scepter was the pre-pistol choice for condi weavers and is used in pvp builds).
Also, Weaver really shines more as a solo open world and PVP spec more than as a DPS PVE.... but it struggles to have a place when Catalyst exists.
PvP kek I recommend playing it in platinum or higher, this class is not the same as two years ago
I like ele.... really... I enjoy tempest a lot, even catalyst I enjoy despite it's APM.... I can't play weaver. It's just.... too... much.
edit: downstate is part of Ele rotation... were you playing GW2 Muk when they nerfed Lava Font but they didn't nerf the downstate version so you did *MORE* damage with Font when you were down than when you were up?? LOL The running joke became "Down.. it's part of our rotation!"
i quit for how they treat eles, something that hasnt happened to me in any other mmo, i dont mind the piano play, but nerf after nerf, that not only affects pvp, but pve, nah.
Holding back my inner elementalist main that just wants to say skill issue to every subclass that isn’t either hammer Catalyst or Weaver or HFB in a training run for Fractal CMs with newbies. But he’s right.
I forgot how complex ANET made and left this particular specialization at 😅 None of the Mesmer builds are as ridiculous as the effort put into this rotation. Biased, ANET, biased! 😂😂
I use to main ele but stopped after POF came out and the only viable pvp build for weaver was water tank. You could survive for a very long time but did no damage which I thought was fair... but players did not, complained and got the only build nerfed. From then on I just noticed if ele was even the slightest bit decent, people complained and it got nerfed while other classes that can press one skill that half hps you and be unblockable, get buffs.
Yeah, I'll still to Catalyst when I go Power. It's at least more comprehensible to me. XD
Weable was the entire reason I made an ele. Loved the concept. Hated playing it.
I havnt even started the video. Muk you alright? It hurts everyone the first couple times. Dont worry...it keeps hurting but hurts a little less in the down state 😢
Spear for ele on Tuesday. If Cal is still doing ele i expect 30 keys rotation and if you need something other then damage it will break your rotation and your damage is lost and you can be certain about that your 2 stacks of might on some skill will be nerfed the week after. All whilst everybody else is flying around, going stealth, shadowsteps, dodges like there is not tomorrow all whilst cleansing 500 condtions and adding 300 stacks of every boon in the game just by looking at your keyboard AND shit out damage with 2 buttons and having a blast.
I am already disapointed at the Spear, that is how emotionally damaged i am as a ele for 10 years. And yes i still play it so obviously i have a love for ele, but it is a rough love since many years now.
Ele is weird, in this class especially, they need to revisit this kit asap and rework the class like they did to druid, I am using it but using staff, it sucks, but it's very fun at last
"I don't understand why it is." Does anyone else feel like this line should be attributed to literally everything associated with elementalist?
Berserkers watching this video trying to match the DPS:
*LOL, headbutt > burst*
As someone who mains Ele (and is bad at the game - this is the only MMO I've ever seriously played, unless you count Warframe), I feel like Weaver was kinda designed for two groups: tryhards and extreme casuals. Tryhards, because they can challenge themselves with complicated rotations and precise timings, and Extreme Casuals, because you can kind of just do whatever at a moment's notice, whether that be damage, dot, crit, healing, tank... Not as well as a class that can do just one or two mind you, but it's very open.
I don't know where you got this information from, but as someone who has played with tryhards who are good enough to sell content, I see that they play other classes that have more to offer than just DMG.
Let's take this mesmer for example, he has DMG power and condi, and he is also a very good healer and okay boon DPS.
Lower complexity than ele and much better utility which makes the real player who thinks have much more fun than just setting fires
This is why I play Tempest when I play my Ele. It's not worth bothering with Weaver. You do need to be rewarded with more damage for playing better but anet refuses to accept that so I refuse to bother with that spec.
My first main in gw... Ripped to shreds before POF happened
Since then,its a PAINNNN
This is good example why you should play what you like and not visit snowcrows. :)
Lol. I should not have picked ele as main. Now I do 20k on weaver😂
Before even starting the video - as soon as I read what class it is, my mind went "oh my god why did you even try this muk.." xD
90% of Weavers will have higher DPS with the elemental than Weave Self. And in some encounters, that last 10% would still be better-off with the elemental.
Mukluk, will there be any guide on solo bounty, especially for warrior classes? 😢
I don't think Mukluk is that kind of player. If you want people doing solo bounties, try Lord Haizen. I could be wrong though 🤷♂
@@Seishou90 Nah you spot on. Lord Hizen is the guy to go to for soloing group content and even something like fractals xD. He wouldnsolo a raid if there wasn't a timer I bet.
Ok guys, thanks for the responses 😁👍
Lord hizen got solo YT channel dedicated to GW 2
Now you can join a music guild and play Rush E for a relaxing breather.
The weaver tangles you with the rotation, lol
I know the point of the video was showcasing the effort to output, so this probably doesn't matter much, but, Primordial stance deals double damage when fully attuned and I noticed you hit it whenever you could.
The point? Some people like LI builds, some people like APM that matches DOOM music *shrug*
It's really a shame, because the concept is amazing... But elementalist as a whole is more effort for less reward. :(
'Easy to learn? lol'
'Fun? hahaha'
😂😂😂
holo when?
welcome to ele... nothing more to say...
If ANET is watching this: STOP GIVING LIGHT ARMOR SQUISHY CLASSES MELEE SKILLSETS!
I swear if ele spear is like sword ima lose it. 😭
Laughs in full celestial xD.
@@Safineya🤣🤣 is that the way to not get one-shotted? I actually have never tried running full celestial.
Celestial will lower your DMG to 33% of what you have now
I do 32k with celestial weaver, how is it possible to not break 30k with full berzerker? I do not play power weaver at all so i may get similar results with it.
let's see your video
I have one posted on my channel if you want proof.
@@didoma73 I made one one my channel
Sw/dagger has very good CCs. Air sw2, dagger5 yes, this is common. Also there are ccs at earth and they are very strong skills also includes Ccs. Btth maybe limit your rotation, also there is Fresh Air trait. That is better burst, you can swap instantly to air with that.
Call me crazy, but i find Condi Weaver's rotation to be easier because of pistol.
And this is why I stick to my tempest 😂
I picked up weaver since this comment and now I'm pumping and topping the meters every time. I should have tried this waaaaaaay sooner lmao
Mukluk plays Li weaver but complains that the dmg, CC and utility is low and rotation is hard? To be fair while it is not the easiest rotation it is brain dead simple. Your rotation in Li Power Weaver = F1 F1 F3 F3 spam all skills except Air 2, Air 5 and Heal. You should pull around 30k on Golem with basic Loop.
Weaver's damage comes from Weave Self allowing them to burst (if I'm not mistaken). When executed weave self perfectly the dmg is like 60k burst or something on power Weaver.
Extra Ramble:
If you want to learn Weaver I recommend the following. Choose Sword/Dagger or Sword/Horn.
With dagger you ignore Air 2 and Air 5.
With Horn you ignore Fire 4, Air 2 and Air 4.
1: Learn F1 F1 F3 F3 while spamming all skills. Whole point is to learn to Weave between Fire and Air without any delay.
2: Stop spamming healing skill and skills mentioned above.
3: Loop start from Air/Air when you press 3 while channeling you want to press F1 to attune in to Fire.
4: Learn Dagger or Horn rotation properly. There are some differences.
5: Stop interrupting Auto-Attack chain.
6: Learn how to use your utility properly. Like how sometimes you use Fire Gylph sometines Air Glyph and where your CC is and what else you can do like Horn Earth 4 reflect (Adina W7 PANIC!)
7: Last after you have learned the basic loop start learning Weave Self.
On top of this you must learn the fights. Is the boss going to allow you to burst now or later? Should you waste Weave Self? Use Weave Self in Dhuum and get a bomb and you hate your life. Samarog went invurnable as you used Weave Self? Hate your self even more. Qadim needed CC and everyone played Weaver? Tough luck.
please @anet see this video, and fix the cc of the elementalist... This is ridiculous
There are weaver-builds that can be fun, but most of the time weaver just looks nice on a spreadsheet but feels aweful to play...
I dont understand why Anet are so allergic to allowing selfish dps to be good at selfish dps, every choice has to have a drawback and even "fun" is considered in the equation, oh your class is fun? then it should pay with a little less damage and utility
pweaver CC isn't that bad. Usually air 2 and 5 are enough, unless nobody else is CCing. You also have access to a bit more, it just requires dipping into earth: Air sword 2 > (swap earth) > air dagger 5 > air/earth sword 3 > (swap fire) > earth dagger 4
for weaver being the dps class I found it pretty disappointing. weaver is such a cool idea, but execution is lackluster.
So in conclusion fuck learning ele 😂 ill stick to thief main hahaha