Legit, my 9 year old has seen enough surfshark adds he gave me a very convincing pitch himself from the culmination of scripts he's heard from various people 🤣 so yes, your 6 year old nephew would likely be quite excited to know his new Daddy knew the value of a private internet connection and and ability to browse the web anonymously and unbound by borders 😐
@@funeralforahorse yep, he's 9 and watching either edu-tainment or some videogame or challenge videos as a treat for a couple hours a day (though a lot more on weekends which is when our kids are allowed to play videogames). We don't have TV, and he gets substantially less media/screentime than the average kid his age (apparently about 6 hrs a day according to the CDC). He not only can tell me all about how VPN's but also is tells me all about coding, history of video game development, food and digestive science, ecosystems and invasive species, etc. He also plays sports and plays outside regularly. So yeah, I don't see an "issue" with the fact my son heard several in video ads by creators trying to financially support themselves and therefore learned enough about VPN's to make a logical and compelling argument for why we should maybe get one. Idk if you regularly go around the internet casting doubt on other people's parenting by questioning if their methods are an "issue", but I am curious if you spend much time around real life children.
@@raeorion I don’t care about the amount of screen time, but thanks for the novel. And the fact that you morally support creators using sponsors is irrelevant - I just cannot fathom being so lighthearted about the exposure of a child to embedded advertising. Pointing out that TV also contains advertising is beside the point - that’s not what happened there.
Any suggestion of pettiness is...what's the term..."demonstrably untrue." Let's go with that, WE seems to be fond of it. Also, sincerity is clearly indicated by the inclusion of voice work by famously non-sarcastic person CJ the X.
at gunpoint of being forced to correct misinformation on ur video? dont get me wrong i dont give a shit abt corporations but lets not pretend this is a lindsay ellis or sarah z situation...
If getting sued isn’t, getting threatened with a lawsuit definitely is - once a video essayist gets both good enough and big enough to risk a lawsuit, they’re usually good enough at minding their words and their sources that any lawsuit threat is more bark than bite.
"our compensation and culture are normal for the NGO sector" is not in any way a denial of "your company underpays and overworks its employees atrociously"
We're just like any company extracting the excess value of our workers' labor, but a teensy bit more demanding since we're non-profit. End child slavery! Get children to fundraise and volunteer for our organization to earn the ability to go to an event where we inject them with corporate propaganda instead!
"We had a court room return this information, that our lawyers worked hard to get" as an addition to that has the same energy as "The doctors reached the conclusion I'm not crazy when I was sent to the mental health faculties to get checked" Like... this isn't a situation that you should generally find yourself in for the purpose of using to defend yourself
The NGO and non-profit sectors are notorious for being exploitative to their employees while paying their executives a hefty salary. Like $112,000-$113,000 per year.
Oh wow this response they forced you to publish *_DEFINITELY_* makes WE sound like a good company to work for and like a good non-profit that definitely isn't harmful or corrupt.
@@daltonbedore8396it's both satirical and does give context/corrections that WE wants to be presented to his viewers. So win/win for everyone involved. Some statements before were a bit off and he apologized but other things he said were on point or were jokes that WE super misinterpreted lmao the whole devil and evil stuff was obviously a joke and they are obviously not litigious as an agency
It’s wild to me that multiple responses to your first video amounted to, “this is how lots of charities do it” when a repeated point in your first video was that the industry as a whole is problematic.
Literally all I could think, especially about wages. Everyone I know in charity work is underpaid, so maybe paying them the typical amount is exactly wtf he was talking about the first time!
It’s one of those slippery nonanswers that COULD be misunderstood to mean “no we didn’t overwork our employees” or to say “it’s not our fault, this is normal in this line of work!”
I work for a nonprofit and I've applied to others. TBH there's always a tension between hire more staff and have less money to put towards the mission, or everyone tries to work as much as they possibly can, to accomplish as much as they possibly can. I've worked soooooo many extra hours. (I get good benefits and OK pay though). But probably for most of the extra hours I worked, it wasn't because anyone asked me, it was because I personally wanted to get more good things done. And that's the kind of people nonprofit work attracts. Like, most of my colleagues and supervisors just put 110% in as much as we can.
Finding the personal email of a youtuber and pulling a donation from over a decade ago to hold over them as some kind of weird power move is *definitely* not mob-like behavior, and WE definitely doesn't read like they're going to start sending PIs to your house to intimidate you into taking the video down
I genuinely don't even understand why they would do that. What's the implied threat? "Wouldn't it be a shame if someone were to know you helped us raise funds?"
@@terrestrialTerror I gotta wonder if they thought WIH wouldn't bring up the fact that this message was sent to a private e-mail. It's some next level creepy vindictive stalker shit.
i work in nonprofit development. most established nonprofits have a donor database where they track donations, contact info, etc of each donor on a constituent profile. most likely, finding that donation did not take any time because they only had to search the name, and the personal email was most likely the one that was given at the time of the donation. not that i’m defending WE or their general practices but this portion is standard nonprofit practices tbh. (this hasn’t happened but) if the nonprofit i’m at was getting into controversy as a result of a single person, we’d probably also search that person in our database to see if they had any tracked history with us. the ethics of this practice is a whole other debate highlighted in the more recent St Jude’s controversies. again, not defending WE - some points that WE countered in this video, however, are indeed standard and i feel more research should have been done into the nonprofit model and their accounting standards before the original video was made. i only felt the need to comment because there is a lot of misinformation around the nonprofit sector as a whole and the way we work haha (such as everyone HATING if donations going to overhead, admin expenses, salaries, etc when without those things being covered, the programs and services could NOT sustainably be delivered. transparency is key)
@@shrimpheaven3323 I expect it's normal for charities to keep the contact info of those who've made donations, but it's incredibly weird and creepy to use that contact info to reply to a video criticizing that charity instead of more professional means, i.e. an e-mail linked to the UA-cam channel. I get Scientology vibes from that kind of shit.
I would not have shown the general layout of the anonymous employee's home, but it's a bit to late for that layer of InfoSec at this point. It's already on the internet, the lawyer ninjas are already combing social media.
Accused of injecting their workers to keep them on their feet. We Charity: How DARE you! We did not have any medical professionals available onsite to begin with. Now there was an onsite HOMEOPATH with a syringe, but shots were purely voluntary! To quote Chidi from 'The Good Place' ...okay but that's worse. You do get how that's worse, right?
@@newaira333 what do you mean, they were still injecting staff. Just by some rando, who made dubious medical claims. And it isn't like we have a recording of everything the homeo said. They could have told a staff member it was to get them moving again. It is a common claim for b vitamins and homeo hawkers.
@@newaira333 Someone who isn't trained in actual medicine injecting people with a mystery fluid sounds alot worse than having a medical professional injecting a mystery fluid into people. It doesn't even really clear up the accusation, just more or less confirms it, only part that was wrong was that they were in someway a medical professional. Injecting unknown liquids into workers to keep them working isn't the best look.
@newaira333 nothing under capitalism is "voluntary". Sure they didn't maaaaaaaake them take the shot but if they were too tired to live up to ridiculous standards they could lose their job. It's the same shit as Amazon not explicitly encouraging delivery drivers to piss in bottles. Might as well claim that being exploited in a job is voluntary because you could just "choose" to sleep rough instead.
@@newaira333 Let's say that a person who is not a medical professional is brought into your workplace by your employer and starts injecting people and making health claims about said injections. Does this seem safe?
“Did you know you partnered with people who use child labor” WE: “DUH, of course we did , we love how they THOUGHT about no longer use child labor, and no we DIDN’T hide it, we are proud to have worked with the child labor company!”
I'm not sure how fair that is. Child labour (and slavery) is so deeply ingrained in the supply chain that one organization that rates how ethical any given chocolate product/company is doesn't even include anything sourced from West Africa. I'm not saying anything about Hershey's or their efforts, but that's why it's "work to eliminate" and not just "eliminate". Yeah, it's messed up. If anyone can change it in this system, it's the big companies though... Not to mention the hypocrisy of "free the children" (but not from child labour)
Imagine stalking a youtuber to try to make your charity and company look better with an email that entirely exposes how little respect said company has for their workers, the people they serve, and anything other than their public image. I may still be poor but man at least I don't lack this much self awareness.
@@pinkimietz3243 it's not though. Sam clearly states that he was contacted at his personal email, which he doesn't make public. He made it clear multiple times in his first video and in this video that he did not want this contact from the WE charity or associated organizations. The definition of stalking includes finding someone's information without their consent, and contacting them in a way they did not want you to contact them. Please look up the definition because if you think I was being harsh, it's very possible you or someone you know has engaged in this behaviour
@@sympatheticnuisance don't forget they found a really old piece of content he uploaded related to them. It was kinda scary honestly, how much did they investigate to find all that
@@d3nza482 I imagined the higher ups screaming "it's for charity" while rows of 'volunteers' sit in front of computers searching through ten-year-old newspapers looking for a mention of a UA-camr
Speaking of child labor... I was reflecting on my childhood in the LDS church. I used to pull weeds as a young child on sugar beet farms in 'volunteer' efforts. These farms were privately owned, because come to find out the LDS church had a bit of a monopoly on beet sugar processing. Maybe a rabbit hole for you sometime
i remember my first (and only) volunteering with the LDS church at like 9 or so they hyped us up about "doing gods work" and being good role models and then we drove to the bishops house... to pack and move all his families items bc they were moving into a new house and didnt want to pay for actual movers their kids, also my age, did not help and we were not even food or water on the 5 hours it took us in 40c/100f weather
You won your point with "reflecting on my childhood in the LDS church". It could only go downhill from there. I hope your life got better when you left ❤️
I am not opposed as like on a family related something something doing stuff under well, family farming related, But planned for free for chilren for the , nooo.
Thank you for clarifying that WE Charity definitely, undeniably, and under threat of litigation, is NOT up to any super shady stuff. Also good to know they are NOT incredibly litigious as you so incorrectly accused them of in your original video.
And don’t forget to give an extra special thank you to WE for protecting us from some guy on the internet that really needs to get his facts straight! I mean, imagine a world where WE charity’s reputation is worse than it already is!
I am *very* *fascinated* by WE's claim that swapping plaques instead of building a *whole* *new* *school* was a "mistake". I would love to see their explanation of how their accountant didn't catch they did not spend money on building a new school or what happened with the funds.
"We don't think children are in a position to understand how we use our funds" damn what a crazy thing to say when you pretty heavily use children to acquire your funds.
This is literally insane. I watched the first video and it was good, but it wasn't something I was gonna spend too much thinking about. Now this charity is fully cemented in my mind as a bad organization run by bad people. Good job to them I guess. E: Based solely on sending old newspaper clippings to a private email and demanding corrections to obvious jokes.
Same. Would have forgotten about them entirely were it not for this stunt. They are a cancer, and I will do my part to communicate this whenever and wherever relevant.
I have never even heard of them before now and immediately am sketched out. Why would a charity who vows to end child labour announce a partnership with Hershey’s for an ad campaign? Like if they truly wanted to help Hershey’s end child slavery why wouldn’t they take the money and make an ad campaign AFTER they ended Hershey using child slave labour? It’s antithetical to their entire fucking charity
Mr Cowan’s very real situation aside, there is still only ONE schoolroom representing SEVERAL donations that should have paid for entire schools. Where are those? Feels like exposing the grieving father’s overreach was simply to divert attention from the fact that he wasn’t a sole victim. And the suit *could* have been settled by scraping a little cream off the top of their own coffers to build a school with, say, internet access in his son’s honor. For a so-called charitable organization there’s a lot of “we’re going to prove you’re wrong” instead of “we’re going to prove we did right.”
bingo, this is all I could think the entire time. so, so much money and they spend the majority on what, big budget productions and stipends for already wealthy people to speak to children? Jesus Christ what a horrible way to run things
Gotta say, We's statement that they've only ever sued 1 media company seems to be countered by the legal trouble that was clearly on the table in this situation.
If you threaten to sue, but settle out of court, then you can honestly say you haven't sued. It costs so much to defend yourself against a giant that, even if you you can afford to win and you manage to do so, you still lose. The statement might be technically true but it's also a very hollow statement.
My “we’ve only ever sued one media company” shirt seems to be raising a lot of questions already answered by my “we’ve only ever sued one media company” shirt
@@amoureux6502 it feels like mafia tactics or creepy KGB sh*t. Look at all the interesting information I found about you. It would be terrible if your employer knew any of this. ALLEGEDLY.
You got me on the paw patrol. My kids are the right age and that shit is everywhere. I feel pedantic, and even though I touch grass regularly, the copaganda is real.
Skip Intro did an episode on it in his Copaganda series. I wasn't really familiar with this show before, so it was a significantly more serious case than I expected...
If I knew that all I had to do was vaguely threaten to file a defamation lawsuit to get you to say nice things about me on camera I would have sent you a letter on fake attorney letterhead ages ago.
Correction. I was contacted by WE and wanted to make clear that their letter was printed on an actual lawyer's letterhead and "fake" in any way whatsoever. Sorry about that.
In a second letter from WE's legal team they wanted me to inform the comment section that the letter sent to "We're in Hell" was not a threat of legal action, vague or otherwise, and was instead "a friendly correction to ensure the content of said video was as accurate and up to date as possible while in no way conveying the possibility of a future act." Thanks for letting me clear that up.
In a third correspondence from WE, sent via carrier pigeon, it was recommended that I further amend the original comment and that I inaccurately described what was said in the video as "nice things." I need to make it clear that it was no WE's intention to have anything labeled as "nice" or seem favorably show bias of any kind, but instead the language conveyed was one hundred percent accurate information vetted by their legal team and not skewed through the use of complimentary dialogue. Also any positive form of address referring to WE came from the creator themselves and not from WE charities, their affiliates, or representatives of said entities.
When a retraction video makes a company look worse than the original video ever did... Great job man, I imagine it must be extremely stressful to have such a monolith come after you. You handled this with incredible style! Thank you for all of the work that goes into your content and thank you for not being bullied into silence. Well done!!
Big "your essay on the topic your teacher is touchy about has a spelling mistake so now you need to justify every letter to help her pretend it isn't about her failures as a mother" energy.
I don't want Mr hell to be in any legal trouble but ngl, this email that WE sent him is basically: "we don't like the video, we're going to pressure you into apologizing, or else! Lawsuit." Sheesh PD: just finished watching, the ending is just perfect
The thing that gets me the most is how much time WE must of took to list all of their complaints and fact check everything. I mean to double check their packaging and find a quote about it? That’s some real time wasted right there. I’ll never get tired of companies trying to bully UA-camrs like they’re some other corporate entity that cares exclusively about money. The thing that speaks the loudest is that this company thought that this was a good idea, that they thought that threatening legal action would somehow give them a better reputation. Also they basically doubled down on Hershey. They just basically say that they’re ok with slavery as long as there’s a promise to remove it at some point. They didn’t even say they made a mistake, they very much clarified that they very much ok with their relationship with Hershey. Amazing.
I love how their "refuting" of the work culture allegations didn't refute shit. If it's typical of NPOs to guilt and shame their employees, and that the people with no boundaries with their job are celebrated (while shaming those that just want to work), that would make every statement there consistent. Given that they didn't make any statements regarding work-life balance, it seems to me that this is the most likely scenario.
Golly gee, I must say that this makes me like WE even more! This is a very chill thing to do, and *_totally_* how legitimate charities respond to criticism. I plan on telling my everyone I know about how totally chill and normal Executive Director Scott Baker is. He acts exactly like someone would who wants to make the world a better place, and not at all like a total loser!
I know experiencing an institution of this size hitting you with something that has real possibility to hurt you must be fucking stressful and you handled it well. 👏 I'm here to tell you you also handled it cool as fuck. Mad swag the kids might say. Hella metal bro love ya lol
The bureaucratic BS where an institution hand waves away legitimate criticism based on a technicality or an ironic jest does not improve WE Charities image at all for me. If anything it makes them look worse.
Love the part where they take credit for your UA-cam channel's success. I have to admit, when I first found you I wasn't sure I should subscribe, but the fact that you once donated $200 to their charity when you were a literal child sealed the deal for me.
Am I crazy or does sending the email to your private email and including the clipping about that show feel like a threat? Like they're saying "we can find out everything about you, don't fuck with us"
This. 100% this makes them look fucking shady and makes all those negative stories way more believable. Now this video looks like a damn hostage video..
You uploading today is the best Christmas present 💕 I volunteered at a We Day event in London a few years back because I worked for a company who were partnered with it. I didn't get any butt injections but I also didn't get any food or drink for the entire day and I had no idea what the event was really for. Just seemed like school kids at a pop concert with the occasional "we need to save the planet" panel discussion in between. I got a free t shirt though! It's so interesting to hear how far reaching the charity is though, I just thought it was a one off thing for UK schools.
This is one of the reasons I can't make content on the internet. If they had sent an email to me about wanting me to change stuff, I'd probably send back a pic of an undisclosed appendage on my body. The subtle hints of shade We're in Hell is throwing in this correction video is probably the more adult way to handle it tho.
considering they took the time to research like some obscure thingyou did with a charity, who knows what other dirt they looked up. this screams intimidation and a threat... which is against canadian criminal code. ijs
Reading the multiple disturbing comments in the last video from people who had been in contact with WE (plus my personal experiences of similar charities set up like this) tells me all I need to know about what really goes on behind the promotional schmaltz of WE. Thankyou for covering this
This is a great video and great follow up to the previous one. LMAO them actually sending you an email to raise "concerns" and lowkey threaten you. And I would like to highlight that the decisions to have CJ the X read for WE was a masterstroke. Absolutely brilliant stuff. 10/10.
This was an excellent way of both addressing the valid criticisms of your first video while also ridiculing their threats, stalking and insane criticisms - like them receiving money from a company that uses child slaves is okay, because they are working on not to use them in some distant future. Happy holidays btw
“We here at WE charity are not overly sensitive to criticism! That’s why we contacted you directly, stalked your entire past, and threatened the shit out of you to add addendums to your previous video! Bullying isn’t litigating, therefore we aren’t doing anything wrong!” 😒😒😒😒😒😒
As someone who was a kid in the early 2010s (AKA the peak of WE Day) in a pretty rural area north of Toronto, I dispute their claim that it wasn't harder for rural kids to access WE Day. I was on student council in elementary/middle school, which doubled as my school's WE club. At recess we would stay inside and sell bags of popcorn to the younger grades to raise money for WE, and even though in Grade 7 I gave up more recesses than probably anyone else (because I was being so badly bullied I basically was afraid to go outside), my school could only afford to send two student council members, who were selected by the teachers based on some undisclosed criteria. Shockingly, my teachers chose not the two most dedicated members of the club, but the two popular hockey boys whose mothers were on parent council, and the rest of us got shit-all. Now, obviously it's not WE's fault my teachers were biased towards the rich/popular kids, and at the time I was disappointed but saw it as an understandable sacrifice for charity (feeling a bit differently now that all this sketchy shit is coming out about them though). But it's just kind of ridiculous to me to even attempt to deny that there would be some kind of financial barrier to poorer and/or more rural kids because like...that's just kind of the nature of...holding an event in a city??? Like, regardless of whether the actual ticket is free, if you live in a more rural area you will, kind of by definition, have to travel to the city to attend, and that travel will cost money, which poorer students/schools might not necessarily have. Or (like in my case) they'll only have the funds to send a few students, and will (ime) end up sending the ones whose parents/families have the most influence in those rural communities. But mostly I just don't understand why they would even deny this, especially as a Canadian charity, because at the end of the day...it's a concert. If you live in Canada, basically anywhere outside of Toronto, Vancouver, or Montreal, almost all concerts by major artists are ridiculously expensive just because of the cost of travel alone. There aren't a ton of large cities in Canada, the ones that exist are very spread out, and I think all Canadians acknowledge and recognize that travel is just kind of a natural part of going to major events like this, so I don't know why WE wouldn't just...also acknowledge it? Like, "WE does its best to include students of diverse socioeconomic and cultural backgrounds by providing tickets to WE Day based on students' charitable works rather than selling tickets on the open market, however WE recognizes that in a country as large as Canada transportation costs are an inherent barrier to rural students' access to WE Day events" and then say something about, I don't know, working to improve the quality of their WE Day livestreams to make it a better experience for kids who can't attend in person? Or something? But then I guess it does make sense, because if they're going to commit to putting money into improving it, we're really back to Sam's question about their priorities. Because even if they have sponsors to fund the concerts in their entirety, how can they really justify spending so much of their staff's time and energy on a concert that functions as a reward not just for already privileged white Canadian kids, but literally a fraction of the most privileged white Canadian kids who weren't even necessarily very dedicated to the volunteer work they were supposedly being rewarded for. What a mess.
Craig Keilburger on record saying "its amazing what they've managed to build In the absolute middle of nowhere Africa" is actually the funniest thing I've seen this year
I love when companies claim their compensation is in line with the industry. Yeah, just because other companies are also under paying employees that doesn't give you a pass, bruh.
I love how this email you were sent serves the same purpose that the charity itself does; it seeks to give answers to the symptoms of it being a charity while failing to address the symptoms of being a non-prpfit. They seek to "correct" statements that were made without addressing the underlying causes that lead people to even begin saying such things. They tried to save face through superficial excuses and redirection, but all it does is make them come off as even worse. It feels like they have a gun to your head this whole video.
I have subscribed to precisely two channels since UA-cam began. This video in itself - and I've been a big fan of you and your stuff for a coupla years now - convinced me to make it a trio. As a former journo who holds a Masterate of Arts in Humanities - and therefore understands both the rigours of research and the bravery it takes to spit back truth at a powerful, dissembling entity while remaining on the right side of some fairly ambiguous ethical and legal divides - I can only say "Bravo." So bravo I say. Sincerely looking forward to the next one.
I went to a fancy dancy prep school in (I was there on a bursary and not because I was fancy or dancy) and we got We-Day tickets. Nobody had to do any volunteering to get a ticket. We just had to ask our tickets to write us a letter of recommendation, and they picked the kids who they thought should go. I remember being sure I wasn't going to get picked, but I did. Before I went. I was excited because I thought SURELY this would help me figure out where to volunteer my time in the community. It's something I enjoy doing, but I was 16 and anxious, and I thought a place like some big charity event would be a cool way to learn about different projects. I wasn't as excited after it started. ( Except for the musical guests, who were still very good even with the event they were at. ) All I remember is that there were ads every five seconds. Mostly for 'Me to We' products like their bracelet line, t-shirts and also their sponsors which was weird to experience as a 16-year-old cynic. We got little 'swag bags' that were 90% just ads from themselves or their sponsers. They really tried to push joining Me-To-We campaigns. Which I didn't have access to at the time. We all left with this feeling of complete 'meh', other than some enthusiasm for J-Lo's ass. Our school didn't try to get tickets for We Day after that. The whole trip not nearly as educational as they wished it was. It was a really weird mood-swing of a day that somehow felt more skeevy than the time a World Vision rep, who talked at a Christian Youth conference I went to pre-religious trauma, said all the good Christians in the audience would do their adopt-a-child campaign.
I enjoyed the first video, I actually already knew a lot of the info you sardonically conveyed because I had already seen the 5th estates reporting on the charity. I wonder if they treated the journalists behind that program in a similar way?
I think we all saw this coming, hope you weren’t caught off guard. Anyways, glad to have some content for Crimbo, hope you’re having a happy holiday beyond this silliness
dear god they found your email? that's terrifying edit: the comments under this video about the benefits of shurfsark are freaking me out a bit and i don't know why, i'm not used to people just mentioning products, maybe that's weird
"WE Contacted Me & Told Me to Say Some Things and I Don't Have a Legal Team so Here's Me Saying Those Things to Avoid Making Things Worse for Myself" (no shade, do what you gotta do, looking forward to the next video)
It's ok, you've got to remain responsible for your channel and maintain integrity while playing legal ball with this stuff. I, however, have no such obligations: nothing to lose, and am going to chat as much wild shit as possible about about this "non-profit" organisation until I die from suspiciously mysterious circumstances.
This is fantastic. I normally hate this style of video, but it suits you well. And good pick on the reader/readers. V good stuff all around. I didn't expect a laugh. Well done sir
I think that addressing certain aspects in the video and apologising for the mistakes made is an admirable thing. Especially when it leaves enough lee way for the viewer to piece together what's not mentioned between the lines.
38:33 I’m so glad someone is talking about this. I’m in the middle of quitting child labor right now, and the withdrawals are awful. Every night I dream about those sweet sweet sweat shops…
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honestly, the best ad-shilling i've seen recently.
Legit, my 9 year old has seen enough surfshark adds he gave me a very convincing pitch himself from the culmination of scripts he's heard from various people 🤣 so yes, your 6 year old nephew would likely be quite excited to know his new Daddy knew the value of a private internet connection and and ability to browse the web anonymously and unbound by borders 😐
@@raeorion your six year old is watching so much YT that he’s mimicking advertisements “confidently” and you don’t see any issue with that?
@@funeralforahorse yep, he's 9 and watching either edu-tainment or some videogame or challenge videos as a treat for a couple hours a day (though a lot more on weekends which is when our kids are allowed to play videogames). We don't have TV, and he gets substantially less media/screentime than the average kid his age (apparently about 6 hrs a day according to the CDC). He not only can tell me all about how VPN's but also is tells me all about coding, history of video game development, food and digestive science, ecosystems and invasive species, etc. He also plays sports and plays outside regularly.
So yeah, I don't see an "issue" with the fact my son heard several in video ads by creators trying to financially support themselves and therefore learned enough about VPN's to make a logical and compelling argument for why we should maybe get one.
Idk if you regularly go around the internet casting doubt on other people's parenting by questioning if their methods are an "issue", but I am curious if you spend much time around real life children.
@@raeorion I don’t care about the amount of screen time, but thanks for the novel. And the fact that you morally support creators using sponsors is irrelevant - I just cannot fathom being so lighthearted about the exposure of a child to embedded advertising. Pointing out that TV also contains advertising is beside the point - that’s not what happened there.
"How petty can I be at gunpoint?" is an amazing brand of defiance, and I wouldn't have it any other way
Any suggestion of pettiness is...what's the term..."demonstrably untrue." Let's go with that, WE seems to be fond of it. Also, sincerity is clearly indicated by the inclusion of voice work by famously non-sarcastic person CJ the X.
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at gunpoint of being forced to correct misinformation on ur video? dont get me wrong i dont give a shit abt corporations but lets not pretend this is a lindsay ellis or sarah z situation...
the credits song is just the icing on top
@@seesaweffect8095 but most of it was not misinformation was just shit they were butt hurt about, calling them cartoonish evil is not misinformation.
Cease and desist your claim that we're "litigious" or we'll sue you for defamation
I used to work at WE and this is exactly what Marc sounds like
@@mphmm i know unicef is corrupt af I'm forced to assume WE is too. Just a wild assumption tho
Sorta like "you called us fascists so we had no choice but to do fascist things" from the right.
“Beatings will continue until morale improves.”
seems legit, nothing odd there....
I feel like getting sued is a UA-cam video essayist's badge of honor
If getting sued isn’t, getting threatened with a lawsuit definitely is - once a video essayist gets both good enough and big enough to risk a lawsuit, they’re usually good enough at minding their words and their sources that any lawsuit threat is more bark than bite.
I’m eating zucchini right now, that’s MY badge of honor. Ps I’m not a vegetarian, just thought I would fully disclose that.
That's just a sign of good investigative journalism
"our compensation and culture are normal for the NGO sector" is not in any way a denial of "your company underpays and overworks its employees atrociously"
Exactly
We're just like any company extracting the excess value of our workers' labor, but a teensy bit more demanding since we're non-profit. End child slavery! Get children to fundraise and volunteer for our organization to earn the ability to go to an event where we inject them with corporate propaganda instead!
"We had a court room return this information, that our lawyers worked hard to get" as an addition to that has the same energy as "The doctors reached the conclusion I'm not crazy when I was sent to the mental health faculties to get checked"
Like... this isn't a situation that you should generally find yourself in for the purpose of using to defend yourself
Its a sector-wide problem!!
The NGO and non-profit sectors are notorious for being exploitative to their employees while paying their executives a hefty salary. Like $112,000-$113,000 per year.
Oh wow this response they forced you to publish *_DEFINITELY_* makes WE sound like a good company to work for and like a good non-profit that definitely isn't harmful or corrupt.
Oh shit that fucking disgusting "Cribs Africa" video at the end what the fuck the look on the guy behind that sicko's face says it all.
sadly i dont think the deeply satirical nature of this correction video was understood by all the viewers
I agree. I'm nodding honestly and without any trace of sarcasm as I write.
@@daltonbedore8396it's both satirical and does give context/corrections that WE wants to be presented to his viewers. So win/win for everyone involved. Some statements before were a bit off and he apologized but other things he said were on point or were jokes that WE super misinterpreted lmao the whole devil and evil stuff was obviously a joke and they are obviously not litigious as an agency
It’s wild to me that multiple responses to your first video amounted to, “this is how lots of charities do it” when a repeated point in your first video was that the industry as a whole is problematic.
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That was the thing that most surprised me, too!!
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Literally all I could think, especially about wages. Everyone I know in charity work is underpaid, so maybe paying them the typical amount is exactly wtf he was talking about the first time!
It's hilarious that they don't say "we don't overwork our employees" but rather "um actually we overwork them a TYPICAL amount"
Hey, if industry standard is inhumane, we're fine as long as we're standard!
It’s one of those slippery nonanswers that COULD be misunderstood to mean “no we didn’t overwork our employees” or to say “it’s not our fault, this is normal in this line of work!”
I mean, the first would be a clear lie, while the latter is how most charities and NGOs tend to operate.
I work for a nonprofit and I've applied to others. TBH there's always a tension between hire more staff and have less money to put towards the mission, or everyone tries to work as much as they possibly can, to accomplish as much as they possibly can. I've worked soooooo many extra hours. (I get good benefits and OK pay though). But probably for most of the extra hours I worked, it wasn't because anyone asked me, it was because I personally wanted to get more good things done. And that's the kind of people nonprofit work attracts. Like, most of my colleagues and supervisors just put 110% in as much as we can.
Finding the personal email of a youtuber and pulling a donation from over a decade ago to hold over them as some kind of weird power move is *definitely* not mob-like behavior, and WE definitely doesn't read like they're going to start sending PIs to your house to intimidate you into taking the video down
I genuinely don't even understand why they would do that. What's the implied threat?
"Wouldn't it be a shame if someone were to know you helped us raise funds?"
@@carrotman the threat is "we have the resources to find out anything about you." which could include more scary stuff like an address.
@@terrestrialTerror I gotta wonder if they thought WIH wouldn't bring up the fact that this message was sent to a private e-mail. It's some next level creepy vindictive stalker shit.
i work in nonprofit development. most established nonprofits have a donor database where they track donations, contact info, etc of each donor on a constituent profile. most likely, finding that donation did not take any time because they only had to search the name, and the personal email was most likely the one that was given at the time of the donation.
not that i’m defending WE or their general practices but this portion is standard nonprofit practices tbh. (this hasn’t happened but) if the nonprofit i’m at was getting into controversy as a result of a single person, we’d probably also search that person in our database to see if they had any tracked history with us. the ethics of this practice is a whole other debate highlighted in the more recent St Jude’s controversies.
again, not defending WE - some points that WE countered in this video, however, are indeed standard and i feel more research should have been done into the nonprofit model and their accounting standards before the original video was made. i only felt the need to comment because there is a lot of misinformation around the nonprofit sector as a whole and the way we work haha (such as everyone HATING if donations going to overhead, admin expenses, salaries, etc when without those things being covered, the programs and services could NOT sustainably be delivered. transparency is key)
@@shrimpheaven3323 I expect it's normal for charities to keep the contact info of those who've made donations, but it's incredibly weird and creepy to use that contact info to reply to a video criticizing that charity instead of more professional means, i.e. an e-mail linked to the UA-cam channel.
I get Scientology vibes from that kind of shit.
I'm sorry it's fuzzy and that there's a black line at the top at points. I promise you no one is more bother by this than me.
Only liked because the creator's comment should always be liked. Don't care about fuzz or black lines, your videos are dope🎁
🤘🏽What Samantha said 🤘🏽
I would not have shown the general layout of the anonymous employee's home, but it's a bit to late for that layer of InfoSec at this point.
It's already on the internet, the lawyer ninjas are already combing social media.
Mostly just hoping the feckless boardroom bubble babies go on a merry goose chase for that.
@@UsenameTakenWasTaken I mean, they already specifically adressed which departement this person worked in - pretty sure they know who that is
Accused of injecting their workers to keep them on their feet.
We Charity: How DARE you! We did not have any medical professionals available onsite to begin with.
Now there was an onsite HOMEOPATH with a syringe, but shots were purely voluntary!
To quote Chidi from 'The Good Place'
...okay but that's worse. You do get how that's worse, right?
How is it worse? It seems to clear up a pretty wild accusation.
@@newaira333 what do you mean, they were still injecting staff. Just by some rando, who made dubious medical claims. And it isn't like we have a recording of everything the homeo said. They could have told a staff member it was to get them moving again. It is a common claim for b vitamins and homeo hawkers.
@@newaira333 Someone who isn't trained in actual medicine injecting people with a mystery fluid sounds alot worse than having a medical professional injecting a mystery fluid into people. It doesn't even really clear up the accusation, just more or less confirms it, only part that was wrong was that they were in someway a medical professional. Injecting unknown liquids into workers to keep them working isn't the best look.
@newaira333 nothing under capitalism is "voluntary". Sure they didn't maaaaaaaake them take the shot but if they were too tired to live up to ridiculous standards they could lose their job. It's the same shit as Amazon not explicitly encouraging delivery drivers to piss in bottles.
Might as well claim that being exploited in a job is voluntary because you could just "choose" to sleep rough instead.
@@newaira333 Let's say that a person who is not a medical professional is brought into your workplace by your employer and starts injecting people and making health claims about said injections. Does this seem safe?
“Did you know you partnered with people who use child labor”
WE: “DUH, of course we did , we love how they THOUGHT about no longer use child labor, and no we DIDN’T hide it, we are proud to have worked with the child labor company!”
And to continue to!
I'm not sure how fair that is. Child labour (and slavery) is so deeply ingrained in the supply chain that one organization that rates how ethical any given chocolate product/company is doesn't even include anything sourced from West Africa. I'm not saying anything about Hershey's or their efforts, but that's why it's "work to eliminate" and not just "eliminate". Yeah, it's messed up. If anyone can change it in this system, it's the big companies though... Not to mention the hypocrisy of "free the children" (but not from child labour)
damn CJ the X did the absolute best job voicing this angry little guy
WE DOT ORG!!!
am I crazy or did they sound different than in their videos?
@@rotisseriepossum I think they just sounded more muted but their voice sounded the same to me.
Honestly deserves an Academy Award for best voice actor. 10/10.
Truly gave anime villain vibes.
Imagine stalking a youtuber to try to make your charity and company look better with an email that entirely exposes how little respect said company has for their workers, the people they serve, and anything other than their public image. I may still be poor but man at least I don't lack this much self awareness.
Stalking is a little harsh.
@@pinkimietz3243 it's not though. Sam clearly states that he was contacted at his personal email, which he doesn't make public. He made it clear multiple times in his first video and in this video that he did not want this contact from the WE charity or associated organizations. The definition of stalking includes finding someone's information without their consent, and contacting them in a way they did not want you to contact them. Please look up the definition because if you think I was being harsh, it's very possible you or someone you know has engaged in this behaviour
@@sympatheticnuisance don't forget they found a really old piece of content he uploaded related to them. It was kinda scary honestly, how much did they investigate to find all that
@@sofiipote7 It's amazing what one can dig up on people when one has access to unlimited free labor.
@@d3nza482 I imagined the higher ups screaming "it's for charity" while rows of 'volunteers' sit in front of computers searching through ten-year-old newspapers looking for a mention of a UA-camr
Speaking of child labor... I was reflecting on my childhood in the LDS church. I used to pull weeds as a young child on sugar beet farms in 'volunteer' efforts. These farms were privately owned, because come to find out the LDS church had a bit of a monopoly on beet sugar processing. Maybe a rabbit hole for you sometime
i remember my first (and only) volunteering with the LDS church at like 9 or so
they hyped us up about "doing gods work" and being good role models and then we drove to the bishops house...
to pack and move all his families items bc they were moving into a new house and didnt want to pay for actual movers
their kids, also my age, did not help and we were not even food or water on the 5 hours it took us in 40c/100f weather
If you aren’t employed they aren’t breaking employment laws. It’s just regular child abuse.
You won your point with "reflecting on my childhood in the LDS church". It could only go downhill from there.
I hope your life got better when you left ❤️
I am not opposed as like on a family related something something doing stuff under well, family farming related,
But planned for free for chilren for the , nooo.
oh shit
We didn't have a doctor on site to inject staff with stimulants!
They weren't even a doctor!
- We Lawyers apparently
Not to mention, our employees CHOSE to be injected with stimulants rather than continue lying on the floor!
vitamin b12 isn't a stimulant.....
It's so great that you've atoned for your mistakes and seen the light entirely of your own will, well done mate we all have to grow sometimes!
"hey we dont sue people"
*said just after showing who they have sued*
Thank you for clarifying that WE Charity definitely, undeniably, and under threat of litigation, is NOT up to any super shady stuff. Also good to know they are NOT incredibly litigious as you so incorrectly accused them of in your original video.
And don’t forget to give an extra special thank you to WE for protecting us from some guy on the internet that really needs to get his facts straight! I mean, imagine a world where WE charity’s reputation is worse than it already is!
being the sort of group that threatens youtubers with lawsuits tells me everything i need to know about this awful "charity"
This is somehow worse than Susan G. Komen shit, and I had hoped that wasn't possible.
The charity doth protest too much
Blink twice if you're being held hostage.
He blinked many times lol
Send in the swat
I think its pretty obvious lol
I am *very* *fascinated* by WE's claim that swapping plaques instead of building a *whole* *new* *school* was a "mistake". I would love to see their explanation of how their accountant didn't catch they did not spend money on building a new school or what happened with the funds.
Yeah, clearly you were wrong to call WE litigious. Shame on you. For legal reasons, this is not sarcasm.
I mean, if you just watch the full video...
"We don't think children are in a position to understand how we use our funds" damn what a crazy thing to say when you pretty heavily use children to acquire your funds.
I am living for CJ's reading of the super factual information about WE not being litigious. Absolute gold.
yeah, perfect choice!
the “fake news…. FAKE NEWS” was gold 😂😂
It was sooooo perfect!!
Dope cameo
omg i was tearing my hair out trying to figure out who that familiar voice was, thank you
i actually CANNOT believe they tried to advertise a book in that email
If they're so motivated to advertise the book, it must be pretty torqued in WE's direction.
This is literally insane. I watched the first video and it was good, but it wasn't something I was gonna spend too much thinking about. Now this charity is fully cemented in my mind as a bad organization run by bad people. Good job to them I guess.
E: Based solely on sending old newspaper clippings to a private email and demanding corrections to obvious jokes.
Same. Would have forgotten about them entirely were it not for this stunt. They are a cancer, and I will do my part to communicate this whenever and wherever relevant.
I have never even heard of them before now and immediately am sketched out. Why would a charity who vows to end child labour announce a partnership with Hershey’s for an ad campaign? Like if they truly wanted to help Hershey’s end child slavery why wouldn’t they take the money and make an ad campaign AFTER they ended Hershey using child slave labour? It’s antithetical to their entire fucking charity
Man... even an east-african villager has been on Cribs but Tommy Tallarico hasn't
lol 🤣🤣
*critical_hit.wav*
Man, he should really take notes from WE. They sure are way better at being honest.
But is their mother very proud?
@@CoobyPls allegedly. My god can you imagine if he’s even lying about that?
Edit: you probably can, he’s not been honest about anything else so far.
Mr Cowan’s very real situation aside, there is still only ONE schoolroom representing SEVERAL donations that should have paid for entire schools. Where are those? Feels like exposing the grieving father’s overreach was simply to divert attention from the fact that he wasn’t a sole victim. And the suit *could* have been settled by scraping a little cream off the top of their own coffers to build a school with, say, internet access in his son’s honor.
For a so-called charitable organization there’s a lot of “we’re going to prove you’re wrong” instead of “we’re going to prove we did right.”
Yeah that's another tick on the side of "why they suck" and they're total scum in my opinion
bingo, this is all I could think the entire time. so, so much money and they spend the majority on what, big budget productions and stipends for already wealthy people to speak to children? Jesus Christ what a horrible way to run things
Gotta say, We's statement that they've only ever sued 1 media company seems to be countered by the legal trouble that was clearly on the table in this situation.
If you threaten to sue, but settle out of court, then you can honestly say you haven't sued. It costs so much to defend yourself against a giant that, even if you you can afford to win and you manage to do so, you still lose. The statement might be technically true but it's also a very hollow statement.
Yep. And we have no way to know how many other times they have made threats they will sue to get someone to retract statements/back down.
My “we’ve only ever sued one media company” shirt seems to be raising a lot of questions already answered by my “we’ve only ever sued one media company” shirt
I loved CJ’s reading of We’s letter of complaint. Wonderful.
As soon as I saw CJ the X in the opening credits I knew I was in for a treat. Their enthusiasm is so perfect
I still hope someone legally competent did make sure there isnt a legally atackable, for safety, else yesss
It certainly made me want to go to wEDOTORG
@@mikemead7200 yes, this made WE my favorite charity now. They seem like legitimate businessmen.
This is fucking scary that they did this and so swiftly. And has just made them look worse in my mind
the point of this is video is indeed to expose how horrible they really can be
the fact that they found his private email address and referenced a video he made when he was 18 also raises HUGE alarm bells
Like, I really didn't care a whole lot after the last video. Now? I hate them with every fiber of my being.
Pretty sure they are scrambling to keep their charity stance in Canada, Free the Children lost their IRS Nonprofit standing thus the name change
@@amoureux6502 it feels like mafia tactics or creepy KGB sh*t. Look at all the interesting information I found about you. It would be terrible if your employer knew any of this. ALLEGEDLY.
You got me on the paw patrol. My kids are the right age and that shit is everywhere. I feel pedantic, and even though I touch grass regularly, the copaganda is real.
Skip Intro did an episode on it in his Copaganda series. I wasn't really familiar with this show before, so it was a significantly more serious case than I expected...
I'm surprised that WE didn't comment on your channel name. It might imply that "WE are in hell", which of course is demonstrably untrue!
If I knew that all I had to do was vaguely threaten to file a defamation lawsuit to get you to say nice things about me on camera I would have sent you a letter on fake attorney letterhead ages ago.
Correction. I was contacted by WE and wanted to make clear that their letter was printed on an actual lawyer's letterhead and "fake" in any way whatsoever. Sorry about that.
In a second letter from WE's legal team they wanted me to inform the comment section that the letter sent to "We're in Hell" was not a threat of legal action, vague or otherwise, and was instead "a friendly correction to ensure the content of said video was as accurate and up to date as possible while in no way conveying the possibility of a future act." Thanks for letting me clear that up.
In a third correspondence from WE, sent via carrier pigeon, it was recommended that I further amend the original comment and that I inaccurately described what was said in the video as "nice things." I need to make it clear that it was no WE's intention to have anything labeled as "nice" or seem favorably show bias of any kind, but instead the language conveyed was one hundred percent accurate information vetted by their legal team and not skewed through the use of complimentary dialogue. Also any positive form of address referring to WE came from the creator themselves and not from WE charities, their affiliates, or representatives of said entities.
Corrections are great. Stills feels like they were quick to point out things that they didn't see as fair but didn't say anything about anything else.
The silence on those more important issues is deafening
Doesn't make sense to sue a UA-camr over something where the discovery period of the lawsuit could unearth something that gets them on CBS.
When a retraction video makes a company look worse than the original video ever did... Great job man, I imagine it must be extremely stressful to have such a monolith come after you. You handled this with incredible style! Thank you for all of the work that goes into your content and thank you for not being bullied into silence. Well done!!
Big "your essay on the topic your teacher is touchy about has a spelling mistake so now you need to justify every letter to help her pretend it isn't about her failures as a mother" energy.
I don't want Mr hell to be in any legal trouble but ngl, this email that WE sent him is basically: "we don't like the video, we're going to pressure you into apologizing, or else! Lawsuit." Sheesh
PD: just finished watching, the ending is just perfect
Mr hell is his father, call him we're
@@anonymous71207 I was actually guessing how to call him. So now i know it's we're lol. Thank you animasta!
...so WE thought this was gonna HELP their image here?
WEll... more like they thought they could intimidate our boy into a retraction. Them poor bastards!
I hereby allege my believe that WE is evil
Duh, it's a company.
Cartoonish Evil
belief, and yes I concur~
Check your email very thoroughly for the next month or so in case WE sends you a cease and desist letter for this comment
Definitely evil.
The thing that gets me the most is how much time WE must of took to list all of their complaints and fact check everything.
I mean to double check their packaging and find a quote about it? That’s some real time wasted right there.
I’ll never get tired of companies trying to bully UA-camrs like they’re some other corporate entity that cares exclusively about money. The thing that speaks the loudest is that this company thought that this was a good idea, that they thought that threatening legal action would somehow give them a better reputation.
Also they basically doubled down on Hershey. They just basically say that they’re ok with slavery as long as there’s a promise to remove it at some point. They didn’t even say they made a mistake, they very much clarified that they very much ok with their relationship with Hershey. Amazing.
And yet there were still all those mistakes in the the [sic] email.
This email has the energy of one PR person alone in a room with the entire board of directors all screaming at them
I love how their "refuting" of the work culture allegations didn't refute shit. If it's typical of NPOs to guilt and shame their employees, and that the people with no boundaries with their job are celebrated (while shaming those that just want to work), that would make every statement there consistent. Given that they didn't make any statements regarding work-life balance, it seems to me that this is the most likely scenario.
A KING HAS TRULY MADE IT WHEN THE COMPANY TRIES TO GET THEM
Golly gee, I must say that this makes me like WE even more! This is a very chill thing to do, and *_totally_* how legitimate charities respond to criticism.
I plan on telling my everyone I know about how totally chill and normal Executive Director Scott Baker is. He acts exactly like someone would who wants to make the world a better place, and not at all like a total loser!
Wow, they really changed my mind I’m so glad they corrected you.
My brain has been scrubbed clean of any negative views I had about WE. My brain has been washed completely. Thanks, WE! I give you all my money now.
I know experiencing an institution of this size hitting you with something that has real possibility to hurt you must be fucking stressful and you handled it well. 👏
I'm here to tell you you also handled it cool as fuck. Mad swag the kids might say. Hella metal bro love ya lol
They hired a naturopath. Nice microcosm of the whole charity.
The bureaucratic BS where an institution hand waves away legitimate criticism based on a technicality or an ironic jest does not improve WE Charities image at all for me. If anything it makes them look worse.
Love the part where they take credit for your UA-cam channel's success. I have to admit, when I first found you I wasn't sure I should subscribe, but the fact that you once donated $200 to their charity when you were a literal child sealed the deal for me.
love that you let them just... go ahead and clown themselves like that
Don't interrupt your enemies when they're making a mistake - it's impolite.
This has echoes of Lindsey Ellis video about those Wolf romance stories or something. A whole video on it, then a whole video about the backlash lol
Another good video is Sarah Z's on how Homestuck threatened legal action over her video on it
I guess it's a rite of passage for leftist UA-camrs to put out two videos like this rip
@@vivk2932 Lindsey Ellis is not a leftist.
@@totlyepic Sure, you're the expert.
Of course Lindsey is not a leftist. She's too busy being a menace to Allison Caine's child!
Am I crazy or does sending the email to your private email and including the clipping about that show feel like a threat? Like they're saying "we can find out everything about you, don't fuck with us"
Maffia stuff 🙃
Both of those things felt a little creepy to me.
This. 100% this makes them look fucking shady and makes all those negative stories way more believable. Now this video looks like a damn hostage video..
Same threatening shit they pulled with Jessie Brown
CJ the X was a perfect choice to read out these emails. They did a great job. I make no other comment regarding these emails.
"If uh, you don't stop saying we sue people... Uh we're gonna sue ya"🤦🤣 Stay strong, you got this🏴
“Retired minstrel performer Justin Trudeau” 😂😂😂
“Don’t wait around like Sesshoumaru” hit me right in the head
I took psychic damage from it.
You uploading today is the best Christmas present 💕 I volunteered at a We Day event in London a few years back because I worked for a company who were partnered with it. I didn't get any butt injections but I also didn't get any food or drink for the entire day and I had no idea what the event was really for. Just seemed like school kids at a pop concert with the occasional "we need to save the planet" panel discussion in between. I got a free t shirt though! It's so interesting to hear how far reaching the charity is though, I just thought it was a one off thing for UK schools.
This is one of the reasons I can't make content on the internet. If they had sent an email to me about wanting me to change stuff, I'd probably send back a pic of an undisclosed appendage on my body. The subtle hints of shade We're in Hell is throwing in this correction video is probably the more adult way to handle it tho.
LOL
I'd probably be sending annoying crank pizza orders to them with anchovies, pineapple, and other bizarre toppings.
"And I'm sorry to anyone who I may have led astray on your journey down the left-hand path." I love you so much
Honestly, after that email, they deserve to be defamed by everyone.
I wonder if their lawyers measure their compensation and hours relative to the "typical norms in the non profit sector"
That feeling when your favourite Christmas outfit is a lawsuit
considering they took the time to research like some obscure thingyou did with a charity, who knows what other dirt they looked up. this screams intimidation and a threat... which is against canadian criminal code. ijs
This literally is a threat, yes. It's violence against journalists, arguably. Just another crime on the pile.
They did research on the man.
This isn't about him.
They found him in the newspaper.
@@andriypredmyrskyy7791 Why did they feel the need to do that, is the question.
Reading the multiple disturbing comments in the last video from people who had been in contact with WE (plus my personal experiences of similar charities set up like this) tells me all I need to know about what really goes on behind the promotional schmaltz of WE.
Thankyou for covering this
This is a great video and great follow up to the previous one. LMAO them actually sending you an email to raise "concerns" and lowkey threaten you.
And I would like to highlight that the decisions to have CJ the X read for WE was a masterstroke.
Absolutely brilliant stuff. 10/10.
This was an excellent way of both addressing the valid criticisms of your first video while also ridiculing their threats, stalking and insane criticisms - like them receiving money from a company that uses child slaves is okay, because they are working on not to use them in some distant future.
Happy holidays btw
Well this isn’t the Part 2 I expected. Also jfc great job We, you managed to make yourselves look infinitely more scummy by doing this
CJ's dramatic rage reading is perfect
“We here at WE charity are not overly sensitive to criticism! That’s why we contacted you directly, stalked your entire past, and threatened the shit out of you to add addendums to your previous video! Bullying isn’t litigating, therefore we aren’t doing anything wrong!”
😒😒😒😒😒😒
As someone who was a kid in the early 2010s (AKA the peak of WE Day) in a pretty rural area north of Toronto, I dispute their claim that it wasn't harder for rural kids to access WE Day. I was on student council in elementary/middle school, which doubled as my school's WE club. At recess we would stay inside and sell bags of popcorn to the younger grades to raise money for WE, and even though in Grade 7 I gave up more recesses than probably anyone else (because I was being so badly bullied I basically was afraid to go outside), my school could only afford to send two student council members, who were selected by the teachers based on some undisclosed criteria. Shockingly, my teachers chose not the two most dedicated members of the club, but the two popular hockey boys whose mothers were on parent council, and the rest of us got shit-all.
Now, obviously it's not WE's fault my teachers were biased towards the rich/popular kids, and at the time I was disappointed but saw it as an understandable sacrifice for charity (feeling a bit differently now that all this sketchy shit is coming out about them though). But it's just kind of ridiculous to me to even attempt to deny that there would be some kind of financial barrier to poorer and/or more rural kids because like...that's just kind of the nature of...holding an event in a city??? Like, regardless of whether the actual ticket is free, if you live in a more rural area you will, kind of by definition, have to travel to the city to attend, and that travel will cost money, which poorer students/schools might not necessarily have. Or (like in my case) they'll only have the funds to send a few students, and will (ime) end up sending the ones whose parents/families have the most influence in those rural communities.
But mostly I just don't understand why they would even deny this, especially as a Canadian charity, because at the end of the day...it's a concert. If you live in Canada, basically anywhere outside of Toronto, Vancouver, or Montreal, almost all concerts by major artists are ridiculously expensive just because of the cost of travel alone. There aren't a ton of large cities in Canada, the ones that exist are very spread out, and I think all Canadians acknowledge and recognize that travel is just kind of a natural part of going to major events like this, so I don't know why WE wouldn't just...also acknowledge it? Like, "WE does its best to include students of diverse socioeconomic and cultural backgrounds by providing tickets to WE Day based on students' charitable works rather than selling tickets on the open market, however WE recognizes that in a country as large as Canada transportation costs are an inherent barrier to rural students' access to WE Day events" and then say something about, I don't know, working to improve the quality of their WE Day livestreams to make it a better experience for kids who can't attend in person? Or something? But then I guess it does make sense, because if they're going to commit to putting money into improving it, we're really back to Sam's question about their priorities. Because even if they have sponsors to fund the concerts in their entirety, how can they really justify spending so much of their staff's time and energy on a concert that functions as a reward not just for already privileged white Canadian kids, but literally a fraction of the most privileged white Canadian kids who weren't even necessarily very dedicated to the volunteer work they were supposedly being rewarded for. What a mess.
I feel that the "getting dunked on" shirt is not a coincidence.
It's a Chuck Tingle shirt too. Fantastic choice.
mister hell you make my day every time you upload. thank you for existing
Craig Keilburger on record saying "its amazing what they've managed to build In the absolute middle of nowhere Africa" is actually the funniest thing I've seen this year
WE is officially the christmas gift that keeps on giving now I guess 😂😂 Appreciate the content!!
This is the best retraction / apology video I have ever seen. Thank you for correcting the record and all the other work you do.
the voice actor you got to read this guy's email absolutely killed it, captured tone and emphasis perfectly (to his chagrin, I'm sure)
oh its CJ the X, he's a youtuber too and has some banger content on his account, my fave video of his is about cat valentine from victorious
@@StefanoFierros the Miraculous one blew my goddamn mind. 😅
Massive compliments on the dramatic readings - they're terrific! This whole vid is a funny and graceful handling of the situation. Kudos.
I love when companies claim their compensation is in line with the industry. Yeah, just because other companies are also under paying employees that doesn't give you a pass, bruh.
I love how they begged for this, and anyone who pays attention to it at all is only more suspicious of the org.
Well done! :D
I hope your source is doing all right. This shit sounds rough.
I love how this email you were sent serves the same purpose that the charity itself does; it seeks to give answers to the symptoms of it being a charity while failing to address the symptoms of being a non-prpfit. They seek to "correct" statements that were made without addressing the underlying causes that lead people to even begin saying such things. They tried to save face through superficial excuses and redirection, but all it does is make them come off as even worse. It feels like they have a gun to your head this whole video.
The petty energy in this video gives me life. Just amazing
i was literally trying to find something to watch when i got the noti for this hell yeah love your vids man
merry christmas to you if you celebrate!
Same! i just opened UA-cam and this came up as having been posted less than a minute ago! Happy Hanukkah, y’all!
twinsies
I have subscribed to precisely two channels since UA-cam began. This video in itself - and I've been a big fan of you and your stuff for a coupla years now - convinced me to make it a trio. As a former journo who holds a Masterate of Arts in Humanities - and therefore understands both the rigours of research and the bravery it takes to spit back truth at a powerful, dissembling entity while remaining on the right side of some fairly ambiguous ethical and legal divides - I can only say "Bravo." So bravo I say. Sincerely looking forward to the next one.
I went to a fancy dancy prep school in (I was there on a bursary and not because I was fancy or dancy) and we got We-Day tickets. Nobody had to do any volunteering to get a ticket. We just had to ask our tickets to write us a letter of recommendation, and they picked the kids who they thought should go. I remember being sure I wasn't going to get picked, but I did.
Before I went. I was excited because I thought SURELY this would help me figure out where to volunteer my time in the community. It's something I enjoy doing, but I was 16 and anxious, and I thought a place like some big charity event would be a cool way to learn about different projects.
I wasn't as excited after it started. ( Except for the musical guests, who were still very good even with the event they were at. )
All I remember is that there were ads every five seconds. Mostly for 'Me to We' products like their bracelet line, t-shirts and also their sponsors which was weird to experience as a 16-year-old cynic. We got little 'swag bags' that were 90% just ads from themselves or their sponsers. They really tried to push joining Me-To-We campaigns. Which I didn't have access to at the time.
We all left with this feeling of complete 'meh', other than some enthusiasm for J-Lo's ass. Our school didn't try to get tickets for We Day after that. The whole trip not nearly as educational as they wished it was.
It was a really weird mood-swing of a day that somehow felt more skeevy than the time a World Vision rep, who talked at a Christian Youth conference I went to pre-religious trauma, said all the good Christians in the audience would do their adopt-a-child campaign.
I enjoyed the first video, I actually already knew a lot of the info you sardonically conveyed because I had already seen the 5th estates reporting on the charity. I wonder if they treated the journalists behind that program in a similar way?
I think we all saw this coming, hope you weren’t caught off guard.
Anyways, glad to have some content for Crimbo, hope you’re having a happy holiday beyond this silliness
Oh my goodness, the WE Charity sent you a letter of corrections after your previous video? What an unpredictable series of events!
dear god they found your email? that's terrifying
edit: the comments under this video about the benefits of shurfsark are freaking me out a bit and i don't know why, i'm not used to people just mentioning products, maybe that's weird
Nice to see a journalist like yourself admit when they're wrong about stuff! I sure did learn a LOT about WE from this video :)
"WE Contacted Me & Told Me to Say Some Things and I Don't Have a Legal Team so Here's Me Saying Those Things to Avoid Making Things Worse for Myself"
(no shade, do what you gotta do, looking forward to the next video)
the way companies like this can’t just do their weird shit alone in their corner but require everyone to love them for doing it as well
It's ok, you've got to remain responsible for your channel and maintain integrity while playing legal ball with this stuff. I, however, have no such obligations: nothing to lose, and am going to chat as much wild shit as possible about about this "non-profit" organisation until I die from suspiciously mysterious circumstances.
This is fantastic. I normally hate this style of video, but it suits you well. And good pick on the reader/readers. V good stuff all around. I didn't expect a laugh. Well done sir
If there are attorneys out of shot pointing ink pens at you blink 3 times and we'll send help!
I think that addressing certain aspects in the video and apologising for the mistakes made is an admirable thing. Especially when it leaves enough lee way for the viewer to piece together what's not mentioned between the lines.
you're bloody brilliant mate
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I’m so glad someone is talking about this.
I’m in the middle of quitting child labor right now, and the withdrawals are awful.
Every night I dream about those sweet sweet sweat shops…