I have always thought of the Gavotte as essentially a "Minuet in 4" because there are many similarities between the two dances. Even the use of an upbeat is a similarity although not all Minuets employ it and those that do have a 1/4 upbeat most often.
Thanks for the video. Found the answers for which I was looking. As a lifelong fan of all forms of dance: "A" for full body shots of the dancers (Fred Astaire insisted this), "C-" for the lighting/overlay which obscured their steps.
These videos are just great! Please continue the series with some of the remaining famous dances of the suite! I would love to watch a video for the Bourrée, Passepied… or maybe you could do a longer video with several of these. Congratulations for your work!
It's interesting that you talk about the word meaning 'stuffed', as another dance form in the Baroque era, the bourrée, is a word that means stuffed, and can also mean drunk interestingly enough.
I'm a bit confused about the Gavotte shifting its stress to the third beat. If every phrase starts with the 3rd beat, then as a listener (or dancer even) how can you even tell that you had two pick-up notes? Unless you see the music you are trying to play, how can you distinguish whether the piece starts on the 1st beat vs the 3rd beat? I'm not trying to pick bones I'm genuinely confused; and I would be very interested to know the origin of how this came to be. Thanks!
The dance actually begins on the downbeat. There are 2 crotchets of music before the dance begins. The mismatch in metric stress between the music and the dance is one of the defining features of the form and unfortunately not mentioned in the video. Usually when playing a gavotte with dancers, the 3 isn’t really accented and the 1 is. The phrases still start and finish on the half bars however.
Something I'm struggling to grasp is the fauxbourdon from Medieval and Renaissance music. There's not a whole lot of info about it online- any chance of addressing it in a future video?
@@MusicaUniversalis ohhh I didn't know that, but since it's already on Apple Music I thought it'd be the same thing to have on Spotify, isn't it the same thing?
You say that Gavottes shouldn’t have a hopping characteristic and then you say that the shifting of the stress gives a hopping characteristic. I would have to disagree with not having a hopping characteristic. I have seen plenty of gavottes have a hopping characteristic in many ways, octave leaps, staccato etc. not just the movement of the stress. And then at the end, you do say that it has a hopping characteristic. Was it an error in the beginning of the video then?
Listen carefully, I say it “should not unlike the Courante have a hopping characteristic”, as in the Gavotte shares the Courante’s hopping characteristic. “Not unlike” means “similar to”.
@@MusicaUniversalis See, I heard that as "should not, unlike the Courante, have a hopping characteristic" When I hear "not unlike" it's typically with a pause and an emphasis on not, so that's how I heard it in the video and thus I thought it was an error in the video.
I think maybe there are different kinds of 'hop'. The emphasis can be on the landing or on the spring itself or on the spring as a preparation for the next step. It helped me to think about the difference between the steps. Here we see what would be an Assemblé in ballet. In the Courante it has more of an upbeat character.
Surprised to be the only Good Omens fan here in the comments. Love the video!
hello fellow fan :]
I thought GO made it up.
I have always thought of the Gavotte as essentially a "Minuet in 4" because there are many similarities between the two dances. Even the use of an upbeat is a similarity although not all Minuets employ it and those that do have a 1/4 upbeat most often.
Thanks for the video. Found the answers for which I was looking. As a lifelong fan of all forms of dance: "A" for full body shots of the dancers (Fred Astaire insisted this), "C-" for the lighting/overlay which obscured their steps.
Great composition
These videos are just great! Please continue the series with some of the remaining famous dances of the suite! I would love to watch a video for the Bourrée, Passepied… or maybe you could do a longer video with several of these. Congratulations for your work!
Yeeees, another quality video from you!
what you have said is very useful
Love this, it helps a lot to unterstand the differences between all the baroque dances better. Could you do Gigue please?
This is a great video!
Great educational videos!
Great content, thanks so much! 👍
It's interesting that you talk about the word meaning 'stuffed', as another dance form in the Baroque era, the bourrée, is a word that means stuffed, and can also mean drunk interestingly enough.
Very instructuve and useful, congratulations! I will use it in my classes and recommend to suscribe to your chanell. greetings from Argentina!
amazing
I'm a bit confused about the Gavotte shifting its stress to the third beat. If every phrase starts with the 3rd beat, then as a listener (or dancer even) how can you even tell that you had two pick-up notes? Unless you see the music you are trying to play, how can you distinguish whether the piece starts on the 1st beat vs the 3rd beat? I'm not trying to pick bones I'm genuinely confused; and I would be very interested to know the origin of how this came to be. Thanks!
The dance actually begins on the downbeat. There are 2 crotchets of music before the dance begins. The mismatch in metric stress between the music and the dance is one of the defining features of the form and unfortunately not mentioned in the video. Usually when playing a gavotte with dancers, the 3 isn’t really accented and the 1 is. The phrases still start and finish on the half bars however.
@@baroquewinds interesting. I've always found the "shifted" phrase placement of gavotte odd, but this helps clarify.
thanks for the effort
Thank you
Something I'm struggling to grasp is the fauxbourdon from Medieval and Renaissance music. There's not a whole lot of info about it online- any chance of addressing it in a future video?
Fauxbourdon is the doubling of a melody a fourth below - check out the Grove dictionary if you’d like a relatively easy to understand introduction :)
is the album going to be available on spotify? :)
I’m still thinking about it. Streaming services are generally not very profitable for smaller artists. It will however be on Amazon by summer.
@@MusicaUniversalis ohhh I didn't know that, but since it's already on Apple Music I thought it'd be the same thing to have on Spotify, isn't it the same thing?
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Gavotte
You say that Gavottes shouldn’t have a hopping characteristic and then you say that the shifting of the stress gives a hopping characteristic. I would have to disagree with not having a hopping characteristic. I have seen plenty of gavottes have a hopping characteristic in many ways, octave leaps, staccato etc. not just the movement of the stress. And then at the end, you do say that it has a hopping characteristic. Was it an error in the beginning of the video then?
Listen carefully, I say it “should not unlike the Courante have a hopping characteristic”, as in the Gavotte shares the Courante’s hopping characteristic. “Not unlike” means “similar to”.
@@MusicaUniversalis See, I heard that as "should not, unlike the Courante, have a hopping characteristic" When I hear "not unlike" it's typically with a pause and an emphasis on not, so that's how I heard it in the video and thus I thought it was an error in the video.
I think maybe there are different kinds of 'hop'. The emphasis can be on the landing or on the spring itself or on the spring as a preparation for the next step. It helped me to think about the difference between the steps. Here we see what would be an Assemblé in ballet. In the Courante it has more of an upbeat character.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 'boorish'/'forcefeeding' etymology was imposed by Belle from Beauty & the Beast.
I believe gavottes are still danced to in Brittany eg ua-cam.com/video/7K93xKvkAtI/v-deo.html
They are and are even have a regional anomaly of being in 5/8 time sometimes
@@MusicaUniversalis oh interesting, I imagine that could be quite difficult to dance to
Bourse dance
Gah vote? Huh?
I prefer the French and German pronunciation.
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