SNS 289: Oliver Drill Grinder, Trailer Ramps, Stainless Machining
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- This week is a little mix-up of a few things that been going on around the shop the past few weeks. I recently purchased an Oliver drill grinder & a large piece of steel from Blacksmith tools. I get those picked up and unloaded into the shop. I also show a small sleeve job I did for a customer, and we also do some heat straightening to my trailer ramps.
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Somebody owes you a set of ramps. I can’t say I never borrow tools. But shop etiquette 101. If you break it, fix it or replace it. And always leave your shop space cleaner than you found it.
And always clean the tools before returning. Giving them back covered in grease and dirt or whatever is just plain rude.
A single man wrecking machine! Love too see the methods it takes to work alone without an extra set of hands.
Oliver instrument company is still in business in Adrian Michigan, I've known the owners for 25 years. They still make grinders and replacement parts. They would answer any questions you may have.
my dad had a golden rule as I was growing up...respect the property, respect the person. if you borrow anything always take it back in better shape than what you got it in. if it was dirty, polish it, if it used gasoline, take it back with a full tank, you do that and the person will respect you even more and anytime you need anything they will gladly give what ever you need or even pitch in to help in what needs to get done. be like adam and always try to do your very best in whatever you do.
I second that. Wesley
Same way I was taught! I even catch myself doing that with rental equipment.
Yeah, unfortunately, I never met anyone like you that wants to borrow my stuff. I stopped lending out my stuff years ago, because in my experience, people that don't own tools, don't really know how to use them and they end up coming back broken, but usually they don't come back at all. If I gotta beg someone to bring back the stuff I lent them...well, screw that.
Just clicked on this and couldn't stop grinning. Made my Saturday :)
Well Mr Booth , with all do respect . I am a long time subscriber and always been looking forward to watch your uploads but ever since you quit your job to become a full time youtuber it has not been the same . I am truly happy for you that youtube made it possible for you to do the things you do now and god knows that I would not be able to be so dedicated to film , edit and upload . However , I liked the complexity and skills you showed in the earlier days . Now I only see a lot of purchases and a little bit of machining . You are not in need of my subscription anymore . I hope your channel continues to grow and I truly wish you all the best .
Are you the guy who borrowed the trailer?
I learn something from every one of Adam's videos. I'm not a machinist, but from watching how a master machinist works I have new insight on how things fit together and work. ANd now when it comes to moving outrageously heavy things... I'm like "Hold my beer". Thanks Adam!
All due respect
David MacLean That’s Funny Right There! I Don’t Care Who You Are!
nice to see respectful comments like this when it comes to unsubscribing.... but I just gotta throw my .02 cent question at it, because the seeds planted with comments like this make their true intent seem a little convoluted... but;
how come people always talk like there's a limit on how many channels you can be subscribed to? I understand if it's a channel that's uploading videos everyday and clogging up your notifications, but I think Abom falls FAR from that class of content creator (irregardless of any potential changes in said content)
Point being. is it illogical to make a comment like this, hope it's heard, hope it's supported, and wait to see if there's a shift into what your hoping for?
I've made that final leap, as it were, and unsubscribed from channels... Those channels though either turned into complete shills (every statement made had to be questioned because money is making their decisions for them, not the truth etc)... there's other examples too, but long story short, doesn't leaving comments like this, and bailing, hurt the content creators we love? You plan on stopping in once in awhile to to see if the proper roots (as you see them) have be reacquired?
I'm sorry, but the core of the comment comes across as a brooding "threat" no matter how respectfully it gets conveyed.
Reminds me of how I broke up with my first long term girlfriend in high school (I.E.- which hindsight tells me was a very enmity infused way of going about things irregardless of my attempts at civilty ;-P
You'll love that old Oliver 510. Not only fun to use but makes an awesome point. That patent goes all the back to the 1920s.
I once loaned out my trailer. It was returned after a month with out the tailgate! When I asked where it was, he said there never was a tailgate on it. He became very defensive when I told him "YES THERE WAS". Now it has a tailgate made from old fence boards.
Two things..... Looks like you went a little two Abom on the pipe wrench at some point and you finally had something shipped to you that even the truck freight companies couldn't damage, a solid chunk of steel, I'm surprised it didn't make them mad and they didn't lose it out of spite!
Adam, Thanks for making videos! The machine work is still my favorite.
at last a satisfying saturday night video to sip my whisky to! i can sleep easily now
p s hows stella the dog . havent seen her in a while
Stella ded. Sorry .
We do have Stella here at home, 40kg black Rottweiler/ Bern
I use to work in a fab shop that had also made trailers, the owner had a customer buy a small utility trailer but had him install huge pintle hitch on it. The customer said that was to keep people from borrowing it.
LOL, that'll do!
I recall college days - always dusting my fries with tons of black pepper to stop my buddies eating them :)
it works too!
Good one!
Adam your 4 ft pipe wrench really brought back memories of years ago I use to work for a place that built & updated filling stations & I had the twin to your pipe wrench with bend & all. I thing mine was bent a little more. You would be surprised how many looks I would get when I pulled it out of my service truck. Of course I never told anyone it got bent by useing a backhoe on it. I just let them think I bent it by pulling on it.
At one of my duty station in the US Air Force I swapped machine work for an Oliver Drill Sharpener. The Motor Pool did not have a Machinist assigned to their shop. I ran the Field Maintenance Machine Shop (Aircraft). The Motor Pool ask if we would resurface flywheels. I made a deal with them they signed over the Oliver Drill Sharpener and painted our Metro Step Van and we would do their machine work. On the side of our van we had a sign that read "The XXX FMS Machine Shop" over a big painted screw, below the screw it read "The Miracle Workers, If We Can't Fix-it We'll Make You A New One."
I run an Oliver grinder at work.it will grind up to a 4” drillbit,has flood coolant,and automatic feed.they do an excellent job,you’ll love it for your tapered shank drillbits.
I think that your success for this channel can be summed up with the following phrase: "No job too big, no job too small, whatever the job, I give it my all!" Perfection is its own reward...
That’s seems to be how it goes any time we loan out trailers too. They usually come back with the spare blown out, plug ripped off, and brakes out of adjustment either from running them too hard or we’ve even had someone smoke the brakes because they had their plug wired wrong. My dad loaned out our log splitter once to a guy and told him he could use it as long as it stayed at another guys house. He ended up dragging it behind his pickup down a dirt road to his friends house and it came off the ball and drug upside down for miles before he hung it on a cattle guard. Never saw a penny from him.
Adam, when using those nylon straps with lots of distance hanging out iin the air, try putting single 180 twist in it. While driving it will be stiff as steel and not whip so much wearing out the contact points. Old reject truck driver method. Love the videos, have learned so much, keep up the good work. Thanks, bj
About twenty years ago I finally had it with lending out tools to people who had never bought any. I'll still lend now and then to friends who have tools and take care of them. These are usually tools that sit on a shelf for five years or so. These items tend to come back in better shape. Cleaned up and lubricated.
Couldn't agree more, no lending, someone like Adam yes, my 2 younger brothers no chance.
The guy who bent those ramps should have offered to make you a new pair right then and there.
I was taught as a kid, if you borrow something, return it in the same condition or better. Mostly I hate borrowing stuff, but if I do I try my best to send it back clean and repaired if I can, even if its not my doing that is defective. If I break it, I buy a new one the same or better. When i worked for a earthworks outfit, we used to fit bearings on shafts. those were interference fits. so to expand the bearing or the sleeve we would use a heater which was a square 20 litre (5 gallon) shiny surface drum with a strong 150watt light inside, it heated things up evenly and we adjusted the rack height to give variation in heat (if that makes sense) !
Loved watching a master move that grinder. So simply using those hot roll bars was one of the simplest most effective ways I've seen someone move something that heavy all by yourself against a wall.
Wow, some people just don’t get it, I have my own small trailer and a caravan, plus I have borrowed several trailers over the years. I only ever damaged one, I was reversing through a narrow gate and just touched one of the wheel arches, broke the very old plastic and popped the chicken poop weld.
Before it went back I re-welded the brackets, all 4 of them, painted them and fit 2 new plastic wheel arches. When I took it back I knocked on the door and first thing I said was sorry I broke one of your wheel arches, but I fixed it, he had a look and was more than happy with the repair and said it would be fine for me to borrow it again!
The repairs, they cost me a couple of hours and about £10-£15 for the pair of arches! Not pissing off a friend, priceless!
Dang. Watch that abom torque. Bent your wrench. 💪
Adam; I have watched you for some time setting your shop up and you have thought it out very well. I have learned a lot from you over the years, you have done a wonderful job. I look forward to watching every video.
Abom79 and Hand Tool Rescue collaboration coming soon? Would love to see that Oliver get a full make over. One sexy tool.
in my experience, those places that were heated and bent back are weak now. I would weld on an extra strap along the sides. But of course, you likely know all that.
The Oliver drill sharpener you have will also sharpen core drills with 4 flute, the one I ran did. To sharpen different flutes down where you engage the wheel there was an extra hole for the four flute core drills and I thought that if you don't use any jaws you can go up to 4" drill bits it's been a while I am 68 years old now and I was 18 when I ran it.
For future reference: To calculate the weight of mild steel length in inches X width in inches X thickness in thousandths of an inch 0.283 will give you the weight in pounds. This piece of steel weighs about 60 X 10.75 X 5 X .283 = 912.67 pounds. I used to use this to bid on work that was done with sheet steel for cost (steel is sold by the pound) and freight. it was always very accurate.
Plastic injection mold designer from 1962 to date and a FoMoCo fan I use the easy to remember Chevy motor size to calculate material weights. Low carbon steel equals a 1957 Chevy 283 V8 size or 0.283 pound per cubic inch. Lead (kid's soap box derby) equals 1962 Chevy 409 motor size or .409 pound per cubic inch.
Don't know if you will be able to notice this post but I can vouch for the "Oliver" drill grinder shatpener. Have dealt with those machines for many years. The company is still on business and still supports those machines they are located in Adrian, Michigan.
If you can calculate the weight of the Oliver I’ll be impressed 👍🏻
That just what I was thinking too??..lol.. that a good calculation to know. Thanks for sharing.
The weight of the Oliver would be on the trucking company bill of lading or paperwork minus about 90 pounds for the pallet weight?
Now thats a wrench
Abom, those are the best drill grinders ever made in my opinion. had one at the last shop i worked at and it puts a perfect grind every time. easy to use. glad you got it
one thing i may suggest is that you bolt it down. they have the tendency to wobbkle/ move around as the wheel revolves around. maybe yours wont though. have fun
If you respect the man, respect his tools.
The Flywheeler event is such a great time. I would like to stop by and say hello and thank you for all the great content. Guys like you, Keith, and Lyle are what make youtube great. Cheers
That's just a tool bit for the next Abom size shaper! LOL
Scott Wadsworth, The Essential Craftsman, is grinning wide watching that Burke bar in use.
I was wondering if +EssentialCraftsman made a Burke Bar for +Abom79 like he did +AndrewCamarata.
Just sit down at the PC and boom new SNS is up..thanks!
Right? It's not even saturday night yet but amazing none the less.
Hey Adam, you could make some really nice heavy duty Vee Blocks on the shaper out of that material. That would be a great project..........
When someone is kind enough to let you borrow something of theirs, and it gets damaged while in your possession, you either fix it, get it fixed, or buy them a new item PERIOD
Loaned a small on-a-pole type of chainsaw (the ones made to prune trees) to a neighbour, once.. Nice guy, you know... He used it to chop some logs or something and broke it... Said he would pay for the repairs... Ended up needing to change it because it was bent out of shape.. It's been two years... Haven't seen one red cent from the guy... Now the house went up for sale and has been emptied... Guess I can kiss that 300$ goodbye...
Agreed. I can't believe the amount of people alive who think it's ok to damage a borrowed item and return it without any further action. Treat others' possessions as if (or better than) your own.
Hey man, when I borrowed my mates trailer, I straightened and painted the draw bar, welded on rated safety chains and set him up with a spare wheel 😊😇
Thank you Adam I always enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa
Me too, Queensburgh in Durban
I am from Gauteng Alberton South Africa
You’re going to need a bigger shed......love all the old tools!
$6/gal Sam's Club Degreaser concentrate (Mixed 50/50 instead of the recommended 32:1) makes GREAT paint remover on old machines, just a couple applications with a spray bottle will have that bad boy down to bare metal no matter how many coats of paint are on it! I stripped a 1946 Brown & Sharpe Surface grinder last year that had at least 4 coats of paint in 20 mins -
I realy like this type of videos, thanks!!!
For those curious 10.75 wide, 5 thick, 60 long times .2835 Lbs per cu. in. Is about 915 lbs.
It always amazes me why when people borrow things they just can't treat them with respect, I'm like you I treat my stuff with respect and care and when I do borrow something I treat it as if it was mine,and If by chance i did damage it i would replace it.love your videos you explain things excellent.
definitely! i treat others tools better than my own. i love my tools and work hard to get them
Nothing winds me up more then when someone borrows something and damages it, my view has always been if I damage someone's tool or property, I replace or repair, which is why I very rearly borrow stuff.
I've damaged stuff I had borrowed and replaced or had it professionally repaired... and I _still_ felt real bad!
Many things are too rarely used or too space-consuming for everyone to have a set - so I really do believe in co-operatives, and sharing stuff. But it only works if people show respect for each other and for the tools...
Used to have an Oliver drill grinder where I used to work. A great machine. What amazes me was that it sharpened drills with more clearance as it went to the center.of the drill.
Back in the day we used one like your yours to sharpen our drill steel for our underground mine.
Impressed with your use of safety equipment. Most you tubers would be wearing tennis shoes and shorts.
Great SNS. Adam, it really makes me angry about how you were treated in the loan of your trailer and the ramps you repaired. I'm around 60, and my family, community, and church growing up taught basic values that seem rarer all the time. Try not to borrow. If you must, it is on your honor to bring anything back in better shape than you found it. That. means top off the gas, tune it up, clean off the rust, wash it, and repair anything that breaks unless it's been specifically discussed before borrowing - whatever is most applicable. Treat things so well that people want to loan their tools and equipment to you. Over the years I've replaced tires, bumpers, many parts, missing pieces that were absent when I picked the tool up - because I care people and the golden rule. Loading. a 15,000 tractor onto your trailer without discussing it with you first is akin to theft. I hope that party reads this and hangs their head in shame. You a great guy, and deserve better!
Ditto !
Oliverinstrument.com Since 1913. As a kid going to the Lenawee co fair, I always wondered what was made at that big factory on Maumee st. in Adrian Mi. Thanks Adam, nothing like a history lesson from where a man grew up 👍😃
Thanks for the video Adam.
That drill grinder is killer !!!! Love it !!!!
Giant man Huge wrench Big torch
When I was starting out in life, I was told that when borrowing something, try to get it back to the owner in better condition than you got it, within reason. Make sure it's clean. And then you might get to borrow it again, if necessary. Just the Golden Rule.
Married, apprentice, 20 years old, always broke. Used to borrow money from a mate. Next payday always paid him back in full, even if I had to borrow a dollar the next day. Earnt $64.00 a fortnight, paid $44.00 a fortnight rent. I then got a 2nd job, cleaning crappers. Paid $3.00 an hour for 4 hours a night. Made more cleaning crappers than at my trade. Even after I became a tradesman, I often worked a 2nd job.
BTW Just wanted to mention the item I purchased from your Amazon page yesterday showed up today so excellent service on your items.
So true on your comment about loaning anything. I screw up often enough. I don't need others creating work for me.
I didn't realize you was so close too me. Nice to know there's a good machine shop in my area. Been watching for months. Very interesting content, being a gearhead myself.
The wrench's handle tip makes it easy to see the heat distortion on the metal
We had a newer version of that drill sharpener where I used to work. Eventually the safety office made us get rid of it. Exposed moving parts they said. Best drill sharpener I have ever seen.
Exposed moving parts? Doesn't that pretty much describe any metalworking machinery? :( Crazy world.
Closing in on sns300. Dang. I remember 100 like it was yesterday. Good work Adam.
When I was up at the Huckleberry RR in Flint, MI, the supervisor got about 10 ft section of a steel billet that was a little wider and about 6 in thick so could temporarily weld things to it while building items then grind off the welds as needed. Got it and a number of machines from US Government Surplus. Got a 44 in X 15 ft Lablonde lathe, screaming Lenna air compressor and a 20 ton Little Giant truck crane.
Damn Abom, that's a big tool you got there. I didn't know they made pipe wrenches that large.
23:10 How about making a longer taper pin with a T handle to make it easier to remove that bar.
Workbench seems a waste for that hunk of metal, especially if it's chrome moly or a tool steel.
Love the drill grinder.
As the old saying goes, "go to borrowing you go to sorrowing" then when you want to use them you can't without all the work and expense putting it right.
Adam has got his stuff together. Unloaded 1,000 pounds off his truck, by himself in about 5 min. Damn!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us! By your measurement the steel came to 914.61 pounds.
Always learn something new from your videos. I think I will attempt to sharpen some drills on a simple bench grinder. Thank you for sharing.
That big assed Abom-sized pipe wrench cracked me up.
Nice useful chunk of steel there . Cheers .
Holy cow, that is an Abom sized pipe wrench!
If you got 1 more of them metal peace you would have some loaner ramps there bro..
That is one hell of an Abom sized pipe wrench!!
We had one of those drill grinders in the shop. SOOOOO much nicer than pedestal grinding the big 'uns :D
Like a giant Drill Dr. xD
Great work. Shop looks super nice. Thank you for sharing
Who ever bent you're ramps, should be making you a new pair.
Cool to see the way the wrench telegraphs how much the ramp is moving just with the heat. Very cool grinder.
Oliver Drill Sharpener. Our 40 man plastic injection mold shop had one in the tool crib in 1962 to date. A great piece of equipment for a precision grind. We would releive the center web by hand on the Gorton cutter grinder wheel. Build a Bondo berm to repair the break, keep the coolant changed and paint it sometime.
I just watched a video yesterday by Jeff Heath; he latched on to one of those Olivers. I'll send you all my 3" bits to get them sharpened as soon as I get 3" bits. Oh well, can't lay brick with drill bits but I bet those babies are high priced. Yes, I would beef up those ramps; they'll make you some nice ones...again! Have a good week, Greg.
Hey Adam. Give Oliver a call. With your serial number. They will provide you with who purchased the machine and any parts ever bought for it. They're willing to help with anything you may need. They will also send you a copy of the user's manual. So you can set up to sharpen 2,3,4 flute drills. I have one of these sharpeners and wouldn't take anything for it!
What's up Adam?just wanna say thanks a lot for your good knowledge and videos you share man,much appreciation and respect all the way from Trinidad and Tobago,a Caribbean country,blessings.
just don't fake a horrible accident and i'll keep watching :)
Well, this video sure was lit for a while! Thanks Adam for the quality content man.
I don't loan tools period. Nothing personal it's just always been my policy. I don't ask to borrow them either. I feel it works both ways. I justify buying something with the idea if I need it now, I may need it again in the future. I buy the best I can afford and take care of it so it takes care of me. People who don't rely on their tools to put food on their table don't understand.
Damn!!! Now thats a Pipe Wrench
big white tank? perfect for a offset smoker!
You have a "small shop"? One could say to many machines..... Your location can never be called cold..... lived in Southern MS now in northern Utah.
Will be glad to see grinder in operation.
Trailer:
As Granddad said: 'If you borrow something from someone you return it in better condition than it was when you borrowed it.'
Simple courtesy.
Dan H. That’s how I was taught also.
@@jerrypeal653 I know one like this: don't lend anything that you can afford to loose.
I live by that rule...my Daddy felt the same way. If I bent your ramps...when I return your trailer it would be with new ramps...same set up...same everything. But I would let you know wha happened & what I did to make it right.
I love this channel. Thanks for all the content!
I would love to have one them Oliver drill grinders
What a pipe wrench... holy crap. I am always amazed by some of the god-sized tools you use, like the big Crescent wrench’s.
Adam, as for the nice chunk of tool steel, how about you and Jimmy DiResta do a collaboration/meet up and forge a Ripley's Believe it or Not, World's largest man made Bowie Knife, should be good for a nice view count....The heat treating should be a real challenge.
Another great video Sir. Strikes me odd, you unload a nice machine then proceed to demonstrate you really don't need it
I am here for all the wrench comments.
Yup. Don’t let them barrow your trailer. I learned the hard way too. Friend barrowed dumped trailer...dumped it with the barn doors only halfway open. Twisted it to all heck. It was 2 weeks old.
I love that drill grinder you'll be able to go into the drill bit sharpening business for big drills
@ 6:25........Holy Pipe Wrenches Batman!
It's so big, i didn't even notice it at first. Then bam...biggun wrench.
Heat it up and bang on it... the metal will remember. A plug/receptacle provides a means of disconnect. Whatever that steel gets used for... a project for the shaper.👍
John T my brother picked up a big rock in his swather(125lbs?). Fouled up the feed auger.The local machine shop dust heated it up and let it cool a time or two. Took most of the wobble out of it. It was replaced a year later though.