ET 8500 rear paper feed setup for card & poster board. Printing with the straight through print path

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  • @ErikS-
    @ErikS- Рік тому +18

    I learn more from Keith than all of the Epson documentation I got with my 8500

  • @janmyers44
    @janmyers44 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you so much! Easy to understand and follow. The instructions on the printer were impossible to follow. I have both the 8500 and 8550.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Місяць тому

      Glad it helped!
      It took me a while to work it out the first time ;-)

  • @deraldart
    @deraldart Рік тому +4

    thanks for leaving in the parts where everything doesn't work perfect. i remember a video where you printed on the wrong side of the paper, always a comfort to remember when i do that.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +2

      Thanks - there was one cut, where it just refused to print, since the network connection had died. That's stuff I will remove since it's just 'stuff'.
      Glad the errors are appreciated ;-)

  • @Citlecrewolf
    @Citlecrewolf 4 місяці тому +2

    Mr Cooper, you're a lifesaver! Thank you for all the tutorials, your videos help massively. I got the paper feed error too and then the first time it only printed one image instead of the 4 on the sheet, the second time it nearly took my hand off grabbing the paper, but printed everything beautifully 😃

  • @ShelleSinger
    @ShelleSinger Рік тому +5

    Glad to see this demo. I've had my 8500 for a couple of weeks and good to know how that works. I don't think I will use it but knowledge is power. Thanks Keith.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      yes - the rear margin on the board setting makes A4 very small...

  • @Quais32
    @Quais32 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for this video. It’s such a specific subject and you showed everything I need to know right now about the rear feeder.

  • @SuperWoodburningTutorials
    @SuperWoodburningTutorials Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for this video. I really needed your help in learning how to feed card stock from the rear of my Epson ET8500.

  • @kelleririegel705
    @kelleririegel705 Рік тому +2

    Bless you for this video. It was making me crazy trying to figure it out.

  • @wigtoft
    @wigtoft 10 місяців тому +1

    You're a star Keith! Thank you for your help!

  • @guyteigh3375
    @guyteigh3375 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, it helped me guide someone as to how to put it back together again!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  7 місяців тому

      Thanks - it does seem a bit complex

  • @tonyfoulkes9289
    @tonyfoulkes9289 Рік тому +2

    This was great. Suggestion re being able to demonstrate front, rear, use a large turntable that they use on large dinning tables. Or cake decorating but probable the nice timber one.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Thanks
      However, my small office probably does not need more bulky wooden contraptions ;-) :-)

  • @jailove71jailove
    @jailove71jailove 10 місяців тому

    Yes, this truly helped me. Would you please do a video on how to print from the rear without taking the back off?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  10 місяців тому

      There is no way to use the rear slot without moving the panel.

  • @9musess521
    @9musess521 Рік тому +1

    Thank you once again! You are awesome!

  • @davidemassussi3735
    @davidemassussi3735 Рік тому

    I use the rear feeder in my 8550 for thicker paper like baryta. If I use the regular top feeder I got some roller marks. I think it’s because the paper is too rigid. But it works with the rear feeder. For now I’ve let the duplexer unmounted so I can load paper faster. Not the best solution but it works

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Yes, it can help. A more robust feed slot would help with print accuracy.

  • @PrimarijusDoktorHeba
    @PrimarijusDoktorHeba 11 днів тому +1

    Hi Keith thanks for your work. I got roller marks so I tried rear feed slot and I get no marks but printing speed on same setting in the driver (High) is different and slower thru rear feed slot. If I use rear top feed its much faster and prints look the same but roller marks are deal breaker so now I am printing slow but need to get the speed of top feed thru the rear feed slot if that is possible. I do not know if maybe Epson treat all papers fed thru this slot as if I have checked the box thick paper and decreased the speed?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  11 днів тому

      I've not experimented with that I'm afraid.

  • @clairewalters8200
    @clairewalters8200 5 місяців тому

    Hi Keith, I have an 8550 and am getting roller indents when printing on 300gsm card through the top slot, I have tried a few different cards from different companies and the only one that doesn't leave the roller indents is a bit to thin to use as a greetings card as its bending. I have tried the rear feed slot, that you demonstrate here, numerous times and no matter what card or colour settings I try, the image is no where near the colour I get when printing through the top slot. All the cards I have used are suitable for inkjet, if I can get the colours to print via the rear slot the same as they do via the top slot, I will be happy to use the rear slot, I hope you can help!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  5 місяців тому

      Are you using the same media setting for each slot? That and the correct icc profile makes a big difference.
      See the actual review [not the videos] for more
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/

  • @lyndsayediger2286
    @lyndsayediger2286 9 місяців тому +1

    I can't get my printer to work! It tells me to load the piece in the back but doesn't proceed after that. It gives me an option to either show me how to load the machine or cancel the print job...help!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  9 місяців тому

      Could be loads of different things - have you read my main et-8500 review?
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

  • @rhiannonparrythompson6426
    @rhiannonparrythompson6426 Рік тому +1

    Hi Keith. Great videos. Thank you. Newly acquired ET8500: paper tray 2 for plain A4: the paper juts out. I can't push it in and so it's not clicking into place & therefore I can't print or copy. Am I missing a trick? Many thanks.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      I've not come across this - unfortunately I don' have one here to test.
      I'd suggest asking on the printing forum at DPreview.com - several people using them there

  • @pkiley111
    @pkiley111 8 місяців тому +1

    I have a lot of trouble getting a longer, wider sheet to feed through straight on my Et-8550. Any tips on how to do that? I've used books etc for support and I will use my hands to help keep it straight. To varying degrees the printer will draw it through at an angle which of course leads to a skewed print. I wish they made an attachment I could buy so that it would feed straight. The tabs are quite flimsy.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  8 місяців тому +1

      The only solution I've seen was a wooden one [plywood based - like a big tray] - Needed some woodworking skills.
      Can't help with a link though - it was on a forum and I forgot to bookmark it :-(

  • @kfrigon
    @kfrigon 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey Keith! You are helping a lot! Thanks for your implication in helping us. I have recently purchased this EPSON ET-8500 and trying to print my cardboard cover (271 gsm) with the rear end of the printer but didn't came close to the colors (too pale). I have selected Cardboard 1 for the paper setting but I am not sure this is the way to go. Do you have any tips?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  9 місяців тому

      Yes - make sure the cardboard is meant for inkjet printing.
      See too my use of profiles and alternative media settings [such as VFA] in the main reviews [see both of them - the printers are almost the same]
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ and
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

    • @kfrigon
      @kfrigon 9 місяців тому

      @@KeithCooper It says it is for inkjet. I have succeed to print one (!) then nothing more.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  9 місяців тому

      Is it different on each side?

    • @kfrigon
      @kfrigon 9 місяців тому

      @@KeithCooper Alright. It was a human mistake. I was selecting rear tray and didn't realized I had to select manual feed. I feel a bit stupid. :) Thanks for your help, Keith. Much appreciated! The colors are not the same (as I suspected) and I believe I could do a calibration?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  9 місяців тому

      Calibration won't make much difference - try printing with the VFA media setting and see if it gives better density?

  • @Rektwiem
    @Rektwiem Рік тому

    Hello @Keith Cooper, thanks for the instructional video. I'd like to know if you can give us the exact measurements of the problematic border for both 8500 and 8550? TIA!!!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Is this is the trailing edge increased border?
      I can't check since I don't have either printer here any more - I recall it being some 25mm but that's not a figure I'd swear to.
      It's not in any specs I've seen - I'd suggest asking at the printing forum at DPReview
      www.dpreview.com/forums/1003

  • @big_spesh3670
    @big_spesh3670 Рік тому +1

    Hello Keith! I’ve been looking at the 8550, I’m wondering if there’s such a thing as a thick card stock printer that does both sides automatically. You mentioned in your demo the printed side may get scratched when you run it through the 8550 again

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +2

      No such printer I've ever tested I'm afraid.
      This requirement is firmly in the category of 'commercial print'...

  • @marktaylor9579
    @marktaylor9579 Рік тому +1

    Great video Keith (as all of yours are). My ET-8500 arrives on Tuesday but I'm confused that the ET-8500 is an 'up to A4 'printer, but on Facebook Epson say this:
    The ET-8500 has photo-size and A4 front paper trays plus will print directly to suitable CDs/DVDs. The A3+ rear tray also accepts speciality media such as craft papers and card, whilst the A3+ straight paper feed means you can print on media up to 1.3mm thick and 2m long!
    My question is, can I set a custom paper size the size of A3+ and feed it though the rear feed?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +2

      Thanks
      Epson typo I'm afraid... someone a bit too quick with the cut and paste on Fleecebook ;-)
      8500 - 8.5" width
      8550 - 13" width

    • @marktaylor9579
      @marktaylor9579 Рік тому +1

      @@KeithCooper Thank you Keith, appreciate your time.👍👍👍

  • @wolfgangdunkler7508
    @wolfgangdunkler7508 Рік тому +1

    Thank you

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      Glad it was of interest

    • @wolfgangdunkler7508
      @wolfgangdunkler7508 Рік тому +1

      Yes definitely - I searched for it for hours at EPSON Support to no avail. But the insertion is very complicated - I think. Thanks again for the explanation - greetings from Germany

  • @Adil-w3b6d
    @Adil-w3b6d Місяць тому

    is the rear feed really the only way to use a 300gsm paper with this printer? did you try to feed it from the top to see how it behaves? I am just shocked that a printer that costs £600 needs this much tinkering to print cardstock, while my g650 can handle it better than this! I was hoping to upgrade but I am not sure if this printer is really an upgrade anymore..

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Місяць тому

      Did you see the main review? This has details of all my testing and media used
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/
      My videos are generally only supplements to the full written reviews...

  • @francescodoenz
    @francescodoenz 10 місяців тому

    Oh boy, I must be really dumb...I just understood looking at your video that you may load from the rear, but what is the interest of rear loading which is much more complicated and involves more fiddling and handling than the usual front loading I dit everything with up to now? many thanks for your inputs and help!!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  10 місяців тому +1

      I'd only use the rear feed for card which needed the straight through path.

    • @francescodoenz
      @francescodoenz 10 місяців тому

      Thanks!

  • @cmygfx
    @cmygfx Рік тому

    Great video. Aside from a thread on the dpreview forums, I haven't seen much discussion on the accuracy (keeping the paper straight) of the rear paper feed slot regarding double-sided printing for the ET-8500/8550. Have you tried any thick paper double-sided prints from the rear paper feed slot and if so, did it all line up (accounting for the large margin requirement)? The blue tabs look a little flimsy...Thanks.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +2

      They are a little light - I've not printed enough prints via the rear slot to have tried this.
      The whole rear feed mechanism is a great bit of design, but not very robust

  • @zacharysearcy
    @zacharysearcy Рік тому

    Hey Keith, Epson states this printer can handle media up to 1.3mm thickness, but you stated 1.6mm in the video. Just curious if this was a simple error on your part or if you've actually managed to get media that thick to work. Thanks.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      The media I used was Epson poster board and that is listed [IIRC] as 1.6 - check the specs?
      Do note though my observations about the plastic guides - which may cause some issues. I don't have boxes of the stuff to use up in tests ;-)

    • @zacharysearcy
      @zacharysearcy Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper thanks for getting back. Their poster is 1.2mm. Looks like the P700, P900, and P5000 are the only ones that can handle 1.5mm. There are just so many people complaining online about feed issues with those models that it makes me nervous to spend the money.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      Yes - my testing shows it can work, but not that it will work every time. This is unfortunately a limitation of the sort of testing I can do in a month or two with a printer before it goes back.

  • @artistatrentina
    @artistatrentina 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for the very interesting video! I have an Epson 8500 and I ask you what maximum weight the upper paper input supports (I can't find any specifications on this). I deduce that beyond 0.6 mm of thickness you have to use the rear entrance or am I wrong? Secondly, the size of the fish, 0.6mm? Grace: D

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  6 місяців тому

      Yes - I don't have any specifics on this, but do see the notes in the main [i.e. written] review
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/
      I tested quite a few papers
      What do you mean by fish! [assuming this is a duff translation!]

    • @artistatrentina
      @artistatrentina 6 місяців тому

      @@KeithCooper Thank you! I read the article: very interesting! yes, sorry, I didn't double-check the Google Translation :D I meant: I deduce that beyond 0.6 mm in thickness, you have to use the rear entrance. So, in your opinion, up to 0.6 mm thick could I use the upper paper input or would there be a risk of damaging the conveyor rollers? thanks and sorry for the mess

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  6 місяців тому

      @@artistatrentina 0.6mm will depend very much on the characteristics of the paper - I believe I tried some 0.5mm during testing.
      Very much 'it might work'

  • @lauralouise373
    @lauralouise373 Рік тому

    Hello Keith,
    I still have a question about the thickness of the paper. The paper I want to use for a postcard is 320 grams crafted paper and the size is A6, do I need to take the tray in the back like you showed in this very good video? Or can I take the tray up front for that too…or can’t I do this kind of thick paper at all?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      It's actually about thickness, and that is not the gsm weight - unfortunately thickness is a much less common figure found in many paper specs.
      However, I I tested quite a few cards and thicker media in the 8500/8550 - the top slot often works well
      See the main [written] reviews at:
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ and
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

    • @lauralouise373
      @lauralouise373 Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Thank you for your fast reaction!

  • @Kai-O-Ken
    @Kai-O-Ken 8 місяців тому

    Does the 8550 leave the gap from using the rear?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  8 місяців тому

      What do you mean, by 'leave the gap'?
      If you mean a margin, then yes

  • @colehazard5698
    @colehazard5698 8 місяців тому

    Hey so I have an epson ecotank 8550 and I’m trying to print from the rear paper feed slot and
    I have all the settings correct and it’s still not working. I’m using
    13” x 19” paper and I tryed using it in both the reed paper feeder and the read paper feed slot and still nothing. I was able to print 11” x 14” from the rear paper feeder but I’m still unable to print 13” x 19” from the rear paper feeder as well as the rear paper feed slot. It’s just feeds it through the rear paper feed slot and doesn’t print. Feeds it right though in seconds but doesn’t print. Let me know if you can help me!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  8 місяців тому

      It should work fine for the A3+ setting - see the uses in the actual review
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/
      With custom media sizes, sometimes the width needs to be set fractionally narrower [say 12.95"]
      The other thing is to check the actual size of the media - I've seen quite a bit of variation.

  • @SanamSteinhart
    @SanamSteinhart Рік тому

    Hi, wondering what the thickest paper stock it can take in GSM? Many thanks

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      GSM is not the same as thickness...
      The rear feed specifications for the printer are given in media thickness
      See the printer specs for details [I can't remember directly]

  • @tonycouling2455
    @tonycouling2455 Рік тому

    Hi, I get 2 rear paper decriptions appearing in any print application.
    One is 'Rear Paper Feeder' and the other is 'Rear Paper Feed Slot'.
    But nowhere does manual tell you which is which.
    Can you advise?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      You only use the one right at the back for card and the like - everything else went into the top.
      See the main [written] reviews
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ and
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

    • @tonycouling2455
      @tonycouling2455 Рік тому +1

      @@KeithCooper ok, thanks but, which print dialogue do I select for the one at the back? I get 2 dialogues appearing in any view/print appl. ???

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      Sorry, I cannot remember the exact wording - the printer went back to Epson quite some time ago.
      I'd suggest asking on the printing forum at dpreview.com - plenty of users there. Be sure to mention exactly what system you are using, since the wording varies.

  • @gjjspek
    @gjjspek Рік тому

    Thanks. I am a crafter and using a4 card stock , 216 - 250 -270 grams. Did you test also this kind of paper in order to review the quality. I am looking for a new printer and this type has been advised, but need info from other people about their reviews. Hope you can help me?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Anything called 'card stock' is generally likely to give poor results unless it is intended for inkjet printer use. See my full set of 8550 and 8500 reviews [ the printers are the same, but for size]
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/
      and
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/

    • @gjjspek
      @gjjspek Рік тому

      Just found out that some people have the et-4850 for card stock printing and they are satisfied regarding printing results. So my opinion should be than if i buy a higher segment printer than i should be printing card stock with the et-8500 or et-8550. But i hoped you could advise me which printer is the best suitable for printing pictures / photos on card stock. I have also card stock of 120 grams. So wondering if you can advise me? Appreciated.
      @@KeithCooper

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      Ah, it's not so simple - the 'better' 8550 is only for media it does well on
      Sometimes cheaper printers print better on cheap/non-specialised media

    • @rieekeerey5902
      @rieekeerey5902 4 місяці тому

      What printer did you buy at the end? I want to print scrapbook and Journaling paper and wonder which printer would be the best. Is the more expensive 8500 better than the 4850? 🤔​@@gjjspek

    • @gjjspek
      @gjjspek 4 місяці тому +1

      Finally bought et-8550. A3 if i have some larger than A4 to print easier to use the Et8550. Good photo printer , best choice .

  • @zaaap0
    @zaaap0 Рік тому

    I have 8550 and my problem with rear feeder is lack of alignment. It always comes out crooked... Sadly printing 300gsm+ from top feeder is not possible because of pizza wheel marks.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      The only solutions I've seen have involved making an external guide setup which the printer sits in.
      Depends a great deal on the practical construction abilities of the owner... I don' t have one here to test at all.

  • @alangrant5684
    @alangrant5684 4 місяці тому

    Can the rear feeder handle a 92Lb card stock?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  4 місяці тому +1

      '92lb' is a US only term, so I've no idea what it is I'm afraid.
      However... any time I see the words 'card stock' used, it all to often refers to a non-inkjet [coated] media, which often works poorly in such printers

  • @Tommy-q8c
    @Tommy-q8c Рік тому

    Can this do more than one sheet of 13x19 standard copy paper at a time? I see conflicting information that says only one sheet at a tome and others that say fifty.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      The 8500 [this video] is only 8.5" wide
      If you meant the 8550 - it can with some papers, but don't rely on it - the 50 refers to plain paper at A4 I thought? However 10 sheets of copy paper should be fine

  • @dotamuugi9811
    @dotamuugi9811 6 місяців тому

    How to print with your top deck

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  6 місяців тому

      Not sure what that means at all?

  • @MechanicalPencilGirl
    @MechanicalPencilGirl Рік тому

    Is this the only current epson with this feed. My Stylus Pro 4000 could be fed this way and I've been looking for something affordable in the epson line to do this. I don't want to print anything super thick but thicker than cardstock.

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      P700/900 support it [as well as the ET-8550] - don't know what else oes

    • @MechanicalPencilGirl
      @MechanicalPencilGirl Рік тому +1

      @Keith Cooper Thanks! I watched those videos as well. Now just looking for a cheap use one of either model. Your videos are really useful!

    • @MechanicalPencilGirl
      @MechanicalPencilGirl Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Just realized the P900 doesn't have any third party inks so I guess I'll try my luck with thick paper using the XP-15000

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      @@MechanicalPencilGirl It does, but I'd never use third party inks

    • @MechanicalPencilGirl
      @MechanicalPencilGirl Рік тому

      @@KeithCooper Even better. Just got a p900 I can repair and official inks!

  • @abbyguitron6530
    @abbyguitron6530 Рік тому

    I have been having soo many paper jams with the rear feeder with 13x19 paper what can I do it's horrible

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому +1

      The rear [flat] feed can be tricky to use with thicker media - unfortunately I've sot still got the printer here to do any additional testing.

    • @abbyguitron6530
      @abbyguitron6530 Рік тому

      @Keith Cooper ok thank you yes I do sublimation printing and I have lost alot of time a paper just praying on each one prints

  • @ElizabethDumbleton
    @ElizabethDumbleton 4 місяці тому

    Every time I load the paper in the rear tray it feeds it through and then says paper out!! Please help!

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  4 місяці тому

      Check the paper sizes and driver settings [both media type and feed slot]
      Try printing from Epson Print Layout as well

    • @francesnorton65
      @francesnorton65 3 місяці тому

      Hi Keith, I'm having the same issue. The paper shoots out the front and won't print. Where is Epson Print Layout? I've done all the specifications and set it to all your recommendations. Thanks!

  • @StiveHernandez
    @StiveHernandez Рік тому

    Hi, i want to buy a printer for selling my photos, anf i've come down to this model vs de epson photo xp-15000. Can you help me choose?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  Рік тому

      This one is too small... Get an ET-8550
      Neither are what I'd personally consider adequate for print sales, but that depends entirely on the level of your market.
      Both need good icc profiles and care with media choice

  • @RosaliePixelPalace
    @RosaliePixelPalace 10 місяців тому

    Can someone please show me how to set up and print A7 greeting cards from a precut 10x7 cardstock paper? I tried and could not figure out what I did wrong. I just bought Epson ET 8550. Thank you

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  10 місяців тому

      Did you read the main [written] 8500/8550 reviews?
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/
      and
      www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8500-printer-review/
      they have details of my testing [both are the same but for width]

  • @wilma888
    @wilma888 5 місяців тому

    How do you "change the amount of left" @5:55?

    • @KeithCooper
      @KeithCooper  5 місяців тому

      No idea - that point is covering how you need to keep printers clean if you do much borderless