ABJECT FAILURE! 🗣️ Marcus Spears doesn't hold back on Deshaun Watson w/ the Browns | NFL Live
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- The NFL Live panel of Marcus Spears, Robert Griffin III and Jeff Darlington discuss the Cleveland Browns' goal of having QB Deshaun Watson ready by Week 1 of the 2024 NFL Season.
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This is the season of no excuses for Watson
Exactly , after this season let's make all the statements... The other commenters are saying he is finished 😅like what ?! He was HURT LAST YEAR!!!
@@radicalizedoffline1103 He wasn't playing well before getting hurt.
@@radicalizedoffline1103if you actually thought he was injured, you truly have no hope and are delusional
@@Whaddayamean13 He literally went under the knife and had surgery. So are you stupid or braindead or both? And I hate deshaun 😅. But that is false
@@gamejester. 5-1 dummy
Considering what the Browns gave up, this is the modern day Herschel Walker trade. The Texans have their QB and are looking good this year.
Terrible decision by Andrew Berry, 230 million FULLY GARUNTEED!? 3 years of first round draft picks. And you've gotten zero playoff wins from him and terrible passing stats. Thank God browns defense is so good.
As a Texans fan, I believe this was an amazing trade. 😂😂😂
The city of Houston was at the lowest point possible during the past 3-4 years. All that suffering was worth it.
Let’s go Houston 🤘🏾
*Strouds fan.
Definitely worth it !!
Calm down. You won a Wildcard Game. If you think it’s gonna be that sweet this year, now that the league has a book on CJ, then you are in for a reality check.
McNair funding those massages really paid off
The GM , Coach and decision makers need to take responsibility for this.
This smells like a Jimmy Haslam move, he probably pushed for it. A data/economics guy like Andrew Berry isn’t gonna think giving up a bunch of draft picks and guaranteed money would be smart. Or he would’ve been fired
GM yes, not coach. kevin has won 2 coach of the year awards and made the playoffs without deshaun last year too.
Owner made the final decision to pay him.
It was All Paul Depodesta and his moneyball BS !
Andrew Berry is the gm, he makes the moves, if he dont then what is the point of having him there if paul and jimmy are building the team.
DeShaun hasn't been the same since blowing that huge lead against KC.
I can see a world where CJ Stroud beats Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.
@@deaniartit ain’t happening
@@chetjablonski1993 more than possible. They have the team to do it
@@MikkiChavezhell nawl
@@raymondthomas1574ON PAPER best team in the afc we can go down the roster 😂😂
I'm amazed the Texans moved past deshaun so quick. We're legit better off w out him now. Amazing. Never thought it would happen so quick. Cj stroud and demeco have erased our memory of him.
The Texans have happily moved on from Watson!
The Texans are a prime example of what every NFL team has the capability of being, but just doesn’t. I think the Raiders will be that this year if they end up grabbing Penix Jr.
the texans got rid of watson for many reasons!. they saw something special in CJ stroud and the pick they were getting from watson. Texans won big time in the trade !!. CJ is very talented and better then watson ever was . Plus he is younger !! CJ loves the team and does awesome things off the field .
U crazy, Watson was putting up historic numbers before the owner sabotaged his career
ice cold truth
The Art of Robbing a franchise 💀
IDK they traded for him knowing EVERYTHING involved, not to mention injury prone and has an improper shaped area where the ACL & MCL go thru and is why he has knee injuries, now last year it was his shoulder too. What's crazy is that move he made against the Raiders getting kicked in the eye thru his helmet and he still did a 360 broken tackle to throw a TD was insane, but his eye has never been the same, notice how one is lower? Poor dude is an injury magnet, but we have CJ now and happy our organization bounced back after O'Brien era.
Sounds about whyte! I guess you never heard of Kirk Cousins! 🤣💀
5-1 genius
@@MagikFingers420 never had an injury that prevented him from playing. You must have dropped out of school.
@@Lawrence-sk8tt lol
If he don't make it thru this upcoming season...he's officially the Ben Simmons of the NFL...this is ridiculous...
Woof. This is accurate comparing in game availability.
@@Bman32xAnd the production drop matches up
if he plays he better be ready to get beat by the texans with a better QB who took his place 😊
@@jenniferu6470 😅😂 I won't be missing that game
Didn’t baker just win his second playoff win with the Bucs and the Texan blew these dudes out in playoffs just for Watson to get paid and not play?🤣🤣🤣
yeah and ima deshaun fan...he gotta prove some this year
Watson got hurt this year
@Roadrunner0077 nah ill wait for the good Ole rust excuse
@@alekwhite5560 been 2/3 years that ain't rust if still there that's mold 😭😭😭
Lol what would be the funniest gangster typical Cleveland thing to happen. Drum role...... 🥁. Buccs and the Texans in the sb , while Cleveland and the ravens don't sniff the playoffs .
This trade is easily one of the worst trades in nfl history as of now. Deshaun barely plays and when he does he ranks 38th in qbr over the last 2 seasons. 38th!! there are only 32 teams in the nfl. he was 27th pff grade this past year, 25th in passer rating. i mean pick a any individual passing stat and he ranks at the bottom of the league. 230 million dollars and 3 first round draft picks for a guy who has clearly been a downgrade from baker mayfield, and now baker is winning playoff games and making pro bowls in Tampa. at least denver got some production from russ.
the worst for the browns but the best for the texans in the end 😊
The cold hard truth 💯
One season he was suspended the other he was hurt he has yet to be able to play a full season it’s not a bad trade until the end result is no Super Bowl if your not a browns fan get off his D and watch your own team clown
Look at Texans now, Much better than they were with Watson.
thats not his fault stupid ..he was top 5 on the texans
I love CJ Stroud's game!!!
Idk about that. Watson was ballin with the Texans, CJ gotta do it at least 2-3 more years
@@akilwilliams7466I know I’m not looking forward to seeing the Texans this year. And they’re young, in a pretty weak division.
Yea browns gave them 3 years of first round picks and then the gm threw in 3 more additional picks.
Completely agree with Marcus and rg3. The watson deal has been a complete failure. For one they guy they traded away Baker has played undeniably better than watson, winning another playoff game and also winning pro bowl mvp this year. Another fact is that watson was outplayed by brissett In 2022 in almost every passing stat, and then was outplayed by flacco in 2023. Waste of 230 million and 6 draft picks
Watson is still a baller 2022 he only comes in the play the last 6 games then this year he got hurt, if Watson is healthy and plays a full season the browns I’ll make the playoffs
The browns GM caused this nonsense. Karma.
Owner*
He's the modern Jerry Jones when it comes to meddling
Yea Andrew Berry really made the worst trade in nfl history. Why fully garuntee the contract?
@@anthonypa8045Fully guaranteeing the contract makes it wayyyyyy easier to stay under the salary cap. Browns have done absurdly high guarentees on every other major contract (Garrett, Chubb, etc.)
@@makerbayfield5262 I just checked on sport trac and neither myles or chubbs contract are 100% garunteed. But this deshaun deal has been a terrible one to date. Like they said maybe worst deal in nfl history by berry
@@anthonypa8045 way to completely ignore the point. The Browns have spent $80 million over the cap ($60 more than any other team) which they are able to do bc they are paying guaranteed cash instead of weekly paychecks. If the Browns owner continues to pay guaranteed money out of his pocket, the Browns will be able to keep outspending the league and stay under the cap. Even if the Browns want to cut him and eat the dead cap (which they don’t) they would be completely fine - they would just be cut to average spending instead of way above average
*Worst trade in NFL History* , thats about accurate. 2 years later, no 1st Round pick, no 4th round pick, discarded QB a pro bowler, and they're stuck w Happy Endings for quarter of a $Billion
As a Steeler Fan we love Watson lol 😂
Yeah this trade has been horrific so far... $230 million & Browns have literally maybe gotten a $230 return on investment thus far and that's being generous. This could turn around depending on Deshawn's performance but so far total bust of a trade on Cleveland's end.
Imagine if they let Baker get healthy and didn't push him out.
for real he just won a playoff game with tampa, imagine if he had browns roster now.
Baker is trash 😂😂
@@jamestaylor2979 if baker is trash what does that make Deshaun? baker finished better than watson in every per game stat this year, and it honestly wasn't even close. Oh and baker was the pro bowl mvp too.
@@WSAMP24 watson played 6 games smarty pants! Baker went 9-8 in the worst division in football!! Watson career stats are blowing bakers away!! Took baker 6 years to have a 4000 yard season and he barely did that 😂😂😂 get real 🤡
Oh yeah. The fact is they thought that he was going to be a savior and lead them on deep playoff runs. He hasnt done that.
So because he got hurt after going 5-1 all of a sudden he’s a failure 🤣. He was suspended his first year. So that’s that. Can we watch him play a full season first?
@@teonsmith1209well he chose not to play his last year in Houston🤣🤣🤣
@@15SilverSurfer15 That has nothing to do with his time in Cleveland. We talking about him strictly being in Cleveland
Deshaun has been bad in Cleveland, considering the massive guaranteed deal he got from them. He has a chance to turn things around but as of now it's been a terrible trade. The Browns have nothing to show for the draft haul they gave up and the contract they dished out to aquire him.
@@edwardflores7108 Have you seen the squad we have 😂😂😂. Did you even watch the video. We are LOADED on both sides of the ball. We not missing them picks 🤣. We turned 2nd and 3rd round picks to first round talents and pro bowlers lmao. What you smoking. Last time Deshaun played he was 5-1 and he beat the top team in the AFC with half of his starters on the OL and no RB1 with a broken shoulder and broken ankle. We just need him to be healthy and he doesn’t have a long history of being hurt or missing games like that.
lol as a Texans fan, the media wants to push this narrative so bad, I saw plenty of glimpses last season of the old Deshaun Watson from when he was in Houston.
That dead cap hit is insane
Yea what a great contract the gm gave him 😂
They do not even need Deshaun. They can win with another qb.
Yea won 7/11 without watson last year
5-1 with Deshaun
6-6 without him
That’s not a coincidence. You can admit you never watched a Browns game last year
@@makerbayfield5262 4-1 no one in cleveland gives him credit for the win in indy, he was 1 of 5 passing with 5 yards and a interception. Pj came from behind to win that game. There is some context for ya. They won games with 4 differnt starters. And flacco also went 4-1 but had way better stats.
@@anthonypa8045 had way better stats? He had more yards sure, but a lot more INTs and lower in every advanced or per game metric.
Also Deshauns numbers weren’t great bc they were blowing teams out in all of his starts.
They beat CIN by 21, TEN by 24, and ARI by 27. The only game Deshaun was throwing in the second half was in Baltimore (which again they won)
@@makerbayfield5262 Watson 67.3 pff score. 185 ypg. 84.3 pass rating 42.9 qbr. 7 tds and 6 turnovers 1.17 td to ratio
Flacco 74.2 pff grade. 323ypg. 90.2 passer rating. 48.3 qbr. 13 tds 9 turnovers 1.44 td to ratio. Turnovers are ints and fumbles lost. But I can tell you know that. So yes almost all important stats Flaccos numbers were better. Easy when deshaun is ranked 38th in qbr over the last 2 years like espn just pointed out. Also, flacco won cbpoy award. A nfl award for good play, not poor play. Come on u watched all the games, it was night and day.
Bro played 12 out of 53 games so far and made 93 million thats 7 million a game hes made
Robbing Cleveland for a quarter BILLION
From a Browns fan, this is nowhere near the worst trade. I really dont mind giving up three firsts concerning our luck in the first round. Besides MG, Baker, and denzel Ward, all of our first round picks haven't become decent starters. Plus, we have found good players in the second and third rounds like Martin emerson, Dwand jones, Cedric tillman, jerome Ford, and alex Wright. If we had those first, i guarantee that we would have drafted someone like Nkeal Harry.
he’s literally a predator. yeah it’s been a failure
Deshaun only cares about his contract.
What was crazy to me is the amount of Browns fans who have the audacity to join in on the hate towards the Broncos franchise failures the past years
Hopefully, with the help of his 33 masseuse’s, he can be on the field
I thought the coach was Joe Flacco😂
How did the browns go from 13-3 and killing the Steelers in the playoffs with a young dynamic Baker Mayfield to now having Nick Chubb Injured.. Losing Mayfield, trading for Watson & destroying their salary cap.. Browns will be Browns…
As a Jets fan, that lives outside Cleveland, he's absolutely correct ! The team has been run terribly since I became aware, in 1984, and Watson is just more proof !
It was never no excuse for Watson when he played Browns won with out Watson play Browns never make it to the playoffs he did go in Baltimore and beat the Ravens last year that’s was a game Browns needed to make to the playoffs. National media got stop with this contract Stuff. Aaron Rodger’s who got hurt out for the whole year talk about that. Talk about Justin Herbert getting paid more money than Watson and his Team suck last year and nothing wasn’t wrong with him. What is y’all keep dwelling on Watson about and why? The Browns is better with Watson then without period.
Deshaun is just stressed… been a “minute” since he’s been able to get a good Rub Down to blow off steam 😮
I use to be a big deshaun fan after my favorite mahomes....but the bounce back i thought he was gone have aint been there ....this a make or break year
Those massages killed him
Nothing but hate coming at Deshaun Watson. He had to sit out 10 games the first year and got injured the next.. What makes you think hes not going to be successful? He did more with less in Houston lol.
Bro is a joke now
Yes. Because he's never available for the whole season. Watson always gets injured. That's the problem. QB'S in the NFL want to get paid but you can't count on them to play 17 games.
Cant call it a failure yet. He was injured last year which is beyond his control. What he did show last year was good but we havent seen enough.
Even when he does play, being the 38th best qb statistically is not going to cut it.
he wont stay healthy to be able to play a full season he has never done so yet not even with the texans he played a full season .
We approve this.
Houston fan
I said it then and nothing has changed my mind. This is the most idiotic trade I've ever seen. So obvious this was going to go down in flames. Unfortunately, I'm guessing the owner made this decision. So we probably have more bad choices to come.
@4:11 RGIII has a big Funko pop collection
It clearly is the biggest bed sh!t, EVER! Fing Browns doing browns things
He sounds and speaks like he's not in the least bit concerned about playing anytime soon.
Good thing Cleveland doesn't listen to the video comments or commentators or they wouldnt have had confidence enough to beat most of your favorite teams with 3rd string qbs. Maybe just maybe the browns know what they are doing
As a Falcons fan...im glad we missed out on Deshaun. This man is suspect at best, and i hate to say it, but he lost a step and some of the arm talent he had BEFORE the injury. Then he got injured, and here we are. Browns better be careful with this, or it could be catastrophic to their future. Lets not forget its CLEVELAND 😂.
Absolutely
The way he said "made playoffs with Joe Flacco," did not sound a compliment.😂
You cannot give someone 90+ mil in cash
He needed it to settle 264 cases lmao
200mill guaranteed
@@carlbryant9086230 mil garunteed and 3 first round draft picks. 6 draft picks in total.
@@frankthetank520 hey the kid is a stud what can i say lol
Give him time. Give him another season or two.
If he went to any other team with guaranteed money he'd not be so ridiculed this is ridiculous
The more pain Browns suffer over the disturbing signing the better.
Watson may play great, w/o a SB it's an utter failure.
He’s not going to play great. One read qb that doesn’t have dhop to bail him out anymore.
i wish Deshaun the best this year and he can show everyone how good he really is again
They should’ve kept Joe and just worked on his INTs
This year will decide.
The Browns knew going in that Watson was facing suspension for at least half the 22 season. He was banned from facilities, and official contact with the organization. He walks in cold on week 11 and gets 3 days of practice.
His lack of cohesion with the offense becomes obvious, but he gets a full offseason, OTAs, and training camp.
2023: he dominates the Bengals, gets a touch of Steeleritis in week 2, and gets injured against Tennessee. He's out for 4 games. He gets slammed in the 1st quarter against Baltimore and has a spotty 1st half before lightning up the vaunted Ravens D in the 4th quarter--with a broken shoulder socket and he's out for the season.
2023 showed flashes of who the Browns traded for which means he's still got the potential to play All Pro level ball.
Shoring up the O line, and integrating the Dorsey offense (which is supposedly going to lean into Watson's athleticism) SHOULD result in a return to form for him. And if the Browns can dodge the injury bug, watch out NFL.
This will be year 3 of a 5 year deal. It's make or break for him, however I happen to think the odds favor a top 10 version of Watson in 2024 rather than a bottom 10.
Keep dreaming.
Deshaun hasnt been the same since the nfl stopped his happy endings.
How many of y’all was ever the best player on a team.. any sport!
Give my sports their new tape and their look, Hollywood
Yes. Everything about the trade has been a failure. They haven't gotten ROI in Watson, they lost ALL credibility and respect from fans they'd banked up over decades of being lovable underdogs, they set unrealistic expectations for absurd fully guaranteed $$ trades, and they lost so much money/draft capital. This has been an abject failure and there's not much that can be done at this point in Watson's contract tenure that could flip that around, even if they were to go deep into the playoffs they're doing it despite Watson's contributions on the field.
You a jab jack!
“Has Watson with the Browns been a failure?” Ya think!
Just remember watson is 8-4 with his games played in Cleveland which isnt bad!
Out of a possible 35 games and his qbr is 38th. The bar is so low for this POS loser.
I like RG III's MJ records
This trade was terrible
Desperation will put you in the wrong bed! This is disgusting!
Watson never wanted to be in Cleveland, he just took that bag 💰
Did not know he was in the NFL
He was 5-1 as a starter and was on pace for 14-3. Failure lol
record is a team stat, defense carried him. like they said he has been the 38th best qb in the nfl last 2 years. stats dont lie. hes been aweful
@@WSAMP24 defense gave up 30 vs ravens Deshaun won us that game
@@empiremarketing9016 Watson threw 1 td that game, he also threw a pick six, and fumbled once too. He also only completed 58 percent of his passes. Cle defense had a late 4th td to help win that game
He spoke about himself like a true bust. They need to draft a rookie qb and eat his contract. He will end up a bust because he sat out all of that time. It happens to any player that sits out for a period of time like this. All world before they sit out, and nowhere near that level when they come back. It is always fools gold, and these GMs should lose their jobs after these kind of deals. RIDICULOUS!!!
Winning games is a much more important stat than QBR. He’s literally won twice as many games as he’s lost while wearing a browns uniform. Acknowledged that it’s only been 12 games over two seasons but injury plays just as much of a factor as the suspensions for the discussion… The injury in my opinion is an overlooked discussion on the topic. He was also on a 4 game win streak before his season ended which is another factor overlooked.
92 for 12 games 😩 id retire if i was him at that point
Espn panel is a joke especially the brothas and sistas that say he deserved the contract and now they are flip flopping saying it was a bad decision? Yet this panel wants to blame organizations on not paying brotha qbs but then blame them when they do? Which one is it ? This is why these type of people shouldn’t be in positions to give opinions on this platform or make financial decisions
He needs to be charged with theft
If they offered you that bag, would you decline it 😂
Browns deserve every bit of Deshaun Watson. Trash individuals for trash organizations.
He is still with the team and has a winning record when starting so...no. 👍
Grasping at straws. The browns beat the 49ers with freaking PJ walker, watson has not won games for the team and has barely played.
@@StayPuftMarshmellow 🙄 he has won games and beat the Ravens while hurt. 👍 PJ Walker throws into double and triple coverage more than anyone. The broncos are screwed so THAT is the failure
Let's do a segment on Kirk Cousins he got paid his whole career and coming off an injury 😆
Thank god he’s no longer in Houston
They got robbed by the massage man simple as that😂😂
Watson could be a top 5 QB and they wouldn't be a top 5 team quit playing
NFL please I want y'all to dawg Cleveland all year never say anything good about the browns. Keep them in the small talk lime light. I will love you forever please dawg um
He’s still a better player than Lamar. But yeah this couldn’t have gone worse so far.
Everytime RG3 comes on i turn
Superbowl are you kidding me RG3 NEED TO STAY OFF DRUGS😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Deshaun is still deshaun
It hasn’t been a failure to him $230m fully guaranteed…. I see why they wanted to sign him but they overpaid for him
Draft a qd
I miss Flacco 😢
Chances are that the Browns still would have traded him out town even if they had won the Super Bowl (unheard of, I know) in order to cater to Watson. When you're a Cleveland sports fan, you need to cherish the nice things while they last, because they usually don't last long.
We winning the chip
so what! get that paper dee watt!!!!!
No more guarantee contracts! it is the NFL these GM’s are idiots. There’s no great quarterbacks that’s worth that.
It's just injury's thts it
Just stealin’ money. Love it lol. So glad my Falcons got outbid.
Why did I know they were going to throw shade? Because that's all they ever do w/the Browns. Even though they know the Browns aren't the inept team they used to be. It's all schtick. Always has been. And it's tired now.
From. 2018-2021 browns were talked about highly. Even won a playoff game. Looked like they had thier franchise qb, but then they messed it all up. Now they got the 38th best qb in the nfl statistically speaking
I see y'all gone just skip over the fact that Kirk Cousins has been in the league for 50 years, has accomplished absolutely nothing, yet is on tracked to be the richest football player ever! But wytee always have to shift the negative attention towards the black guy 🤣🤣🤣
Watson and Winston. Just need big Ben to come out of retirement and sign with Cleveland to complete the Holy Trinity. But anyways Watson is the most overrated player on the Browns. The last time Watson played a full season was in 2020 and although he had amazing numbers that season the team still went 4-12. The thing is people still expect Watson to be good but when he played in 2022 and 2023 he was really terrible. I think a lot of people are simply overlooking that and just assuming he’ll go back to Houston Watson. Basically people still consider Watson a super star level QB when we don’t even know if he’s actually good anymore
he will never be as good as he was in houston . he got hurt alot in houston even . he was good at that time but he is nothing like a CJ stroud or Patrick Mahomes ..
Worst trade in NFL history. Just edges out Russ Wilson to Denver.
Yep
Yall just want it to be. Russ is no longer with the team and yet they still are paying him…it’s the Russ trade…
Not quite because it isn’t over
Houston fan here thank god for the browns 😂😂😂 and I loved Deshaun as a player and I’m shocked how bad he’s been.. I hope he bounces back now that we don’t have anymore of they’re picks
Lol $86MIL dead cap still doesn’t compare to “the Hershel Walker trade”.
That said, not every player can ignore their off season BS and produce on the field. Watson doesn’t seem like he can, but at this point if he still isn’t physically healthy, Browns got fleeced as bad at least as the Broncos for Wilson.
Yes, and frankly one you could see coming. It's the browns. Of course it was going to fail.
I'm excited to finally see a healthy Watson this year 💯💯💯 Ppl are forgetting how great he was......
Because it happened about 4-5 years ago
That's because it's been awhile since he's been great he can't stay healthy
been 4 years now. that a long time in nfl years
as a texans fan I like Watson n wish him all the best. He played great for us n by trading him, we were able to built this great team we got now. I hope Watson stays healthy n takes browns to playoffs. at his prime, he was a top 5 qb in the league.
Baker had one bad season and they traded him 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️baker won the browns their first playoff game in years
True. And they knew baker was just injured that year. He got surgery the day the season was over. Now baker is healthy and looks like a top 10 qb again. And watson hasn't even been a top 35 qb the last 2 years. Smh