Popular Bikepacking Seat Packs Ortlieb vs Moosetreks vs Revelate Spinelock vs RockBros
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- My channel only has a few product review videos. The rest of my channel focuses on my solo 1800 mile, 77,228 feet bikepacking trip from Boise, Idaho up to the Canadian border on dirt and back on pavement.
⭐️ LINKS TO PRODUCTS IN MY REVIEW
RockBros:
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Moosetreks:
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Ortlieb:
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Revelate Designs Spinelock 16L:
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This is by far the most helpful seatpack comparison I've seen on YT. Thank you!
Excellent! You packed more into seven and a half minutes than some channels do in 30.
YAY!! 👏 You found it helpful! I thought it was pretty dang good myself. 😂 Thanks for sharing inspiring words!
Thanks for the thorough review! I weakly appreciate you taking the time to show mounting and the volume of the bags!
Cool! Happy you found them useful!
Thank you, that was really informative. I was thinking Rockbros for myself but now after seeing the Revelate I could be changing my mind.
My pleasure! Thank you for taking the time to be kind! The Revelate Spinelock was AMAZING! If I was faster getting my days posted you could watch just Day 7 to see what happened to mine. It started to dent by the seatpost and then the bag dropped to only 1" above my tire and started scraping. It lasted the whole trip but it's a flawed design. I'm happy to send a pic to show you if you'd like.
@@HumanontheLoose Yeah, that Spinelock design chewed my seat post too. After that, I went with the Rockbros saddlebag with the foam spacer that hugs the seat post and never looked back. They sit firmly while my carbon seat post is pristine. They do work perfectly with carbon seat posts. Completely waterproof and if you cinch it tight it won't swing. If you pack carefully, the 2-liter difference in capacity is not an issue. Plus it costs a quarter of what the Revelate Designs cost!
@@HumanontheLoose Great videos. I am curious if you still are using the Spinelock or if you have switched or gone back or tried the Rockbros saddlebag. In other words, what is your curren revelation now that revelate is flawed. Thanks!
Long term review on the rockbros?
@@robwolfe8890 My uploads finally ended and I was going back through comments. Unfortunately YT doesn't alert me to replies only new comments so I didn't see this until today. Gosh - sorry!! I will be loading a review next week but if you've watched any of my trip videos you may have already seen the main issue I was having with the Spinelock and you've probably already been out on a bunch of adventures since it's been 6 months since your comment.
Nice comparison of these options. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
helped me out a lot, other reviews not being as honest at all, this one really gives you an idea of what to expect from the different brands
That makes me truly happy to hear. It's comments like yours which inspire me to do more!
Dangit…just lookin at seat bags and then you got ALL the ones I was looking at and then you’re rolling through ID and then you’re charming and bright and then it’s late and I’m 7 vids in. Another stumble down the UA-cam adventure wormhole. Thanks for all your hard work posting! I’m in, now 😂
Haha....Dave you made me laugh out loud! Thank you for taking the time to share kindness!
I found this video more than helpful, I wish I had seen it sooner. I put a metal rack on the back of mine and strapped a plastic ammo can I the rack but it sucks. These bags are way better and thanks to you I know which one to get. Thanks and enjoy!! ❤
WAIT STEVEN! Recently I ended up trying a rack that attaches to the seat post. (Mine is a dropper). Then I bought an XL eVent Sea To Summit Compression Dry Sack. A cargo net from Walmart to cover it and attach to rack - then two bungies which I criss-crossed for extra stability and strung my water shoes through the cord. Tons of rock...around 400 miles. Didn't move! When I got to camp I just grabbed the sack and all my camping stuff was in it. The seat packs are awesome but I loved how much I could easily shove in a dry sack and easily attach it to the rack. My point being - buy both ideas and try them out with the stuff you want to shove in it. The rack was around $30 (now $60) and sack $52 and bungies/cargo net $18. I bought 3 racks and this one was my favorite and lived up to my expectations! I did buy longer screws for it though and lock nuts. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NJ5S3U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@HumanontheLoose Hi Naomi. Thanks so much for the info, your the best. I so appreciate the help. It's incredibly helpful that you have tried this stuff and passed the knowledge on to us, you Rock!! I was just checking out seats like yours earlier today. After looking around I'll be getting one and I'm very much looking forward to getting it. Thanks again for the info on the rack and bags. Enjoy ❤
@@HumanontheLoose The Ortlieb Quick Rack would also be a great option I think, not much heavier, but many more mounting options and also for sure more stable and lower point of gravity.
Great video thanks for the post!
Thanks for taking the time to be kind!
I'm getting quite the education! Loving it.
Excellent bike bag review! I found quite a few reviews but you covered many details others didn't and chose bags I was considering. The only thing would be how they hold up on the trail but you aren't being sponsored. I get it. This really helped me narrow it down and I can easily find someone who reviewed my bag choice on the trail. You saved me so much time! Thank you for doing this!
Happy you found it helpful! 👏 I thought it was a pretty great review myself honestly. 🤣🤣🤣
fantastic and exactly what I needed. I was debating between the ortlieb and the revelate. Still a little torn but that Revelate!! so stable. winner for me.
Great! Thank you for taking the time to share helpful feedback Vanessa! 🌸
Love it! No nonsense! 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you!
Hey there. Just watching this vid and thought I would pass on a nice hack for these rear saddle bags. This idea is adopted from the Topeak Backloader design. Topeak uses a weather resistant material for the main mounted bag, but then uses a waterproof dry bag that slides inside. However, the Topeak bag sags more than your final two picks (RD and Ortlieb). I know this because my bikepacking buddy had issues with his sagging. His saving grace is he's 6' 4" with a 61cm frame and plenty of clearance over his tire. I have the same Ortlieb bag as yours...but hate taking it on and off the bike after long days of riding. I simply adopted Topeak's methodology and bought a Sea to Summit dry bag to easily slide into the Ortlieb. This way I can leave the Ortlieb mounted when having to remove my gear. I just made sure the dry bag had an air vent to vacuum pack the items and I pack in a way where the inner dry bag mimics the shape of the Ortlieb...usually with some soft stuffed gear in the nose the take up all usable space in the outer Ortlieb. A plus is they are both waterproof. Hope this helps.
Finally a comment the robots approved. Thanks for the helpful info! Nice idea! My new setup is a stronger seat post rack vs one in video, also doing a Sea to Summit eVent with a cargo net over. Super excited to try it out on my mountain bike trip this July.
Just watched this, and totally agree about the Revelate Spinelock bag. It's amazing. The design is so functional. I rode 3000 Km through NZ and I didn't have bag swag once. Great review.
WOW! YAY YOU!! 👏 Happy you found it helpful. I have to say I thought it was a pretty awesome review myself. 🤣🤣🤣
Loved this! Straight to the useful info, no messing about. More vids please!
That makes me happy to hear! Thank you for sharing helpful and kind feedback!
I always used panniers and a handlebar bag for road bicycle touring. Panniers might be good for trail cycling. It would be necessary to connect the panniers to a rack with zip ties.
Great to see all the options next to each other, but the getting on and off seems a faff. I found Restrap that has a light frame that you pop a dry bag into, which seems a better engineered solution.
Interesting review, thanks… not used any of these, however the best part was the attachment which connects the bag to the seat post… definitely worth purchasing separately for any bag.
I use the Apidura Seat Bag & have it currently connected to my MTB. Clearance & movement are key to any bag being ideal. I can tell you it fits & looks far better than any of the bags you’ve shown. One thing is key, how you pack the bag & also the way in which you manipulate it once attached. Happy to share a picture if it helps with what I mean :-)
I have also purchased a Tailfin, however not tested it yet.
That brand was popular on my trip although Ortlieb took the award for most popular seat post bag. The brand not necessarily the model in my video. I'm done with that trip and am trying a rack instead on this next trip loading up soon after some "What I pack" videos. Sounds like you're very happy with your choice so that's awesome! I'm sure those who read comments will appreciate your referrals.
I had problems with the Ortlieb because it never held its shape. It sagged so badly on a trip that it rubbed against my tire and wore holes in it. I blame the air bleed valve which I think isn't quite as airtight as it should be and leaked air which caused the sag. I now use the Rockbros bag and absolutely love it.
Same with the Revelate seat bag. At the end of Season One I made a video on how well my equipment held up. That did not. I had issues with my Rockbros handlebar bag but still loved it. Also in that video.
The PDW Bindle Rack is has straps that go through your seat rails, which will keep it from going into your wheel.
Bought the Revelate the other day! Excited to get.
I’m excited for you!! Are you planning a trip?
I use Ortlieb frame bag for my bikepacking setup, super bag!
Recently saw an Anti Sway fitting that doubles as a bottleS holder, you should do a video on that.
Very much to the point. I like it. The revelate attachment is a big seller.
Which I rarely am but oddly was in this video. HA! Thank you for leaving kind feedback!
I'm using the Rockbross for 2nd season now. The straps are a bit slippery and need ocassional tightening or it swings. Apart from that really solid product 4/5 from me
Thank you for sharing helpful review feedback!
I went from a clamp on rack to the relevate. Rode the full Idaho Hot Springs loop last year and it worked perfectly. Very sturdy bag that showed only slight wear. Good product!
Wow congratulations to you that is quite a feat!!
🍾🏆👏 I loved the Revelate too which I used for Season One but then I loved my big sack on a rack set up even more that I used on my current uploads of Season Two. We basically did the complete opposite solidifying it’s truly a personal choice!
Nice job! Very useful
Thank you!
Great video, short & lots of info!
Thank you for letting me know it was helpful!!
I switched to the Aeroe system.
Thanks for promoting them. Looks cool!
Restrap is the way to go
You said the Rockbros isnt compatible with carbon seat post- not sure what it means
Great vid 👍
Happy you found it helpful and thank you for letting me know!
What sleep system and tent did you have in the revelate bag?
Hmm...I'm trying to think of an episode where I show you. Heads up...I ended up not using the Revelate bag for Season Two based on what happened with it in S2. Gosh..maybe S1E3 I show it? My new setup is shown in "My Bikepacking Setup - What People Ask" has a picture of my face holding a toothbrush. This seatpack setup was FANTASTIC and it took a pounding! But that's about the bag - not really what you asked. I'm trying to think of where I go over my tent...sorry..in Thailand not with my stuff to look.
Great review
Is there any way you could give me a measurement from your seat rails to the bottom of the bag when it on your bike.
Measured on a angle like they do for the A measurement for fit on the revelate site.
Revelate will not give me that measurement.
Their A measurement shows a minimum of 9.5” on the angle from seat rails to the tire.
I’m short and do not have that much room but most images including yours show quite a bit of room, just looking for some help on this.
Sorry but I don't have the bike/bag anymore. You might want to watch an episode titled "A 44 Mile Downhill Bike Ride." The thumbnail is me with a mosquito net over my head. I think I show you the bag after it's been used for a bit. I recommend watching that. The bag really wasn't mean't for my bike setup and I'm 5'10" so my seat was high. I'd recommend buying it from REI which offers free shipping if you don't live near one. Then put it on your exact bike and see. They have a wonderful return policy.
Why faff around with these bags and odd seat post racks?? Get a proper rear rack and a trunk bag and he done. More volume. More secure mount. Easier to load.
This was my first backpacking trip (Season 1) so I was going with what people were using. Season 2 (my current Weekly uploads) I went with what you’re mentioning because of my experience with not liking using a seat pack.
The true test was how the rack would hold up on super rocky single track and it held up beautifully but of course that’s based on the rack I chose to buy and how well I installed it. I think it’s all subjective just like everything in life what works for one might not work for another and vice versa. Happy you brought this up!
just wondered does it make mounting the bike harder? (ie swinging your leg over when first getting on bike) I already struggle a bit to get on a high saddle on my road bike.
Great question! It depends on your style bike. If your center bar is on a strong angle you can tilt your bike and step through and over. I was riding a Salsa Cutthroat Apex and had to swing my whole leg up and over. It was fine but definitely a workout in difficult sections where I was constantly dismounting/remounting. I’m not sure if you can have one of these installed or if you have to buy a whole new bike to get one but my mountain bike has a “dropper post.” It makes the bike more expensive but some people drop them to the lowest spot, get on their bicycle, then bring the saddle back up.
In one of your later videos I remember one of your bags had a issue with a strap, was it this bag??? I am doing a 4 day trip and I have a trek domane and hoping the revelate will work on my bike. Thanks
Let’s see…two bags had strap issues. Moosetreks frame bag shown in Day 29 and my RockBros handlebar bag Day 21. Happy for you! 👏 Nice bike!
@@HumanontheLoose well thats good news, I am thinking about the revelate. I couldn’t believe how much you got into the 16L bag. I would have to go with the 10L because of the size of my bike. Hoping it will be enough
Have you tried the rock bros on a trail?
I did not. I did buy their handlebar bag w/ detachable bag combo which was super durable. There are many bag reviews on YT there’s got to be someone who’s channel specializes in reviews and gave that one a whirl. Sorry I couldn’t be a further help.
Seat bike are gud. But they swings a lot & that cause balance issue. cause u tell a way to stop the swinging
The Spinelock Revelate, a shown in the video, DID NOT SWAY AT ALL after being totally packed up and using it in Season One for 51 days on dirt, rocks and gravel. Amazing bag!!
Hello how are you. Could you please tell me what sleepingbag, mattress, and tent you have. they look very small and I'm looking for that kind of thing. Thank you
Hi! Well I’ve made some changes to the equipment you may have seen in my Season 1 and now Season 2 bikepacking trips. I go over some packing choices in “My Bikepacking Setup” video but my tent is the Tiger Wall UL1.
Is it to big for a 12 years old girl?
It depends on how much you pack in it. Probably best if it's not totally filled. You can always buy one and pack it..attack it...and see how she feels from a store with great return policy.
Can I have one hahahahaha
Don't mind it just joking
Нельзя сказать, что рокброс гамно!!!
Apple translated your message as ,” This is not to say that rockbros gamna !!!” I don’t know what that means.
Why do americans love wobbly-ass saddle bags when you can properly secure bags with rear carriers?
I can’t tell you about others choices I can certainly share my own. My trip was initially based on bikepacking NOT bike-touring. Under these circumstances I would be traveling on single track and and dirt through forests. I would’ve never gone with panniers and after doing the trip I’m thrilled I didn’t especially for areas I was in the road. I went with the Revelate Spinelock which did not wobble at all based on its design attachment. If I was going to be traveling on pavement touring around and wanted more stuff with me I would go with Panniers.
@@HumanontheLoose I agree; when minimum width is required to navigate challenging terrain, of course you must maintain the narrow profile provided by products like the Revelate Spinelock. When maneuverability is not an issue and you have to carry a heavy load, panniers become essential.
That is some nice gear you had there, Naomi Diane Stock.