🎸 Blues Chronicles #5: Charley Patton - Guitar History Lesson - Reverend Robert Jones
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2020
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Fine job Rev. Jones! Most interesting!
Excellent
these history lessons are my favorite thing on youtube right now
I love Charley Patton.
The recording quality obviously hasn't aged well, but I once I read an interview with a man who claimed to be a close relative of Charley Patton, seems like a brother-in-law and he said something to the effect of, "Charley Patton could be standing right in front of you playing and you wouldn't understand a word he sang."
Fantastic history of Charlie Patton! Keep up the great work, Reverend!
I love music, and Im learning to love history. Thank you for the blues chronicles Rev. Jones!!! Found my way here from a friend named Rich.
There is such a wayward longing to this music, that is just indescribable, a transcending voice that is at once down-home and other-worldly, completely normal....and completely mysterious....."To a world unknown..."
Greetings from Grafton WI
When you said "The Father of The Delta Blues", my heart thanked you. You have a new subscriber!
Thank you for the great playing and the wonderful historical enlightenment about this Blues pioneer!
Rev.: Love Charlie. Thank you for figuring out his stuff. Stood there in Dockery this September. Believe in the Bible. Mike
Two thank yous to you, Reverend for the two lessons: One about history and the other one about music.
Cheers,
Dave.
Awesome. Thank you for this. Been listening to the Delta blues a lot today. It's good to look back to the origins of so much music, it's like a strong shot.
I'm so thankful someone made recordings of these early blues musicians. I love Blues music. Especially Delta and Texas blues. If these recordings had never been made, it would be a huge loss to music.
You have Alan Lomax and his son who followed his father's tradition to thanks. Alan went all over the country searching these folk singers and bluesmen out to record them for the library of congress.
Thank you! Found out late about Charlie; ‘better late than never’ certainly applies.
Very cool it never occurred to me that the popularity of the string instrument based bands influenced the slide method of blues guitar. Like they were emulating violins or fiddles and so on
Thank you so much
I love this music so much
Love the history lessons in the video. Very cool content. Thank you
He was a genius. And maybe the guitar-playin'est mother of them all.
Thank you for this, fantastic video!!! The Skip James episode made me emotional man, this is good work.
Great video thanks for presenting it!
Superb video, thanks!
Thanks for the upload...excellent.
Really organic. Thanks!
Thanks again for sharing...
Love it
Thanks for sharing
Great video! There is a great documentary called "Rumble, the influence of native music on rock n roll". Link Wray is who it starts out with (of course being titled Rumble), highly recommend it!
Remember the words of David Crosby at Woodstock about as long ago as these truebluesman (well almost...) Reverend: (Vietnam War reference then...) "If we can't do it with love in our hearts, then we have no right to do it at all!"
By the way, it was the Great Flood of 1927, not 1929
He says 1927.
@@suncat5160the caption tho
What’s your tuning there Rev?
probably open d. pony blues is in regular tuning.
No offense to Rev. Robert Jones or TrueFire, but this was a poor summary of Charley Patton and what little vague history of the blues you tried to sum up. Firstly, nothing about his music suggests any influence from Native American music. Rhythmically, Patton's music is quite exceptionally syncopated, which is more in line with West African rhythms rather than Native American rhythms - and while his singing sounds similar to some Native American styles, you can hear similar melismatic singing in West Africa and recordings of field hollers. Perhaps the thing you're most off-mark about is the state of music before "delta blues". Delta blues is a particular style of blues recognized primarily for it's use of slide guitar, which most likely originated among Hawaiians around the turn of the century. Delta blues, and the blues in general, did not develop in a vacuum. Slide guitar blues goes back to at least 1903, when Patton was only about 12 years old and would have just began playing guitar. Around this time, Gus Cannon was just learning to play 'Poor Boy Long Ways From Home' in his signature slide-banjo style. It's likely Patton learned guitar (As well as slide guitar) from a man named Henry Sloan (Who was unfortunately never recorded). Patton, while probably being one of the many early adopters of his style, was very unlikely to be the "father" of the delta blues. Furthermore, your example of the Mississippi Sheiks in contrast to Patton is misguided and shows a type of blues that was, in reality, no older than Patton's style. You can hear upbeat, rhythmic 12-bar blues songs rather early on and contemporary to Patton (See: Henry Thomas, Papa Charlie Jackson, Blind Blake, etc etc). The contrast between Patton and the Sheiks is not a difference in time-period or innovation but a difference in personal style, as well as the sort of songs they were aiming to make.
Very well said. The only real connection Patton makes to Native Americans is when he mentions “The Nation” in Down the Dirt Road Blues, that’s about the extent of it. Also Patton was likely born around 1887 not 1891, but that’s a minor detail.
Rumble: The indians who rocked the world is an interesting film on Native American Indigenous peoples musical influence.
Your comment annoys me.
I'm pretty sure Rev. Jones was quoting Howling Wolf, who said Charley Patton was an Indian, so suggests Mr Wolf saw the influence. In essence you are effectively disagreeing with Howling Wolf by telling him that nothing about Charley Patton 'suggests' any influence from native American music. How on God's clean earth are you going to tell Howling Wolf he mustn't label Charley Patton an Indian if his ear heard the influence?
I'm not big on blues history so can't really dispute the rest of your comment, but I really enjoyed Rev Jones' trip into the past and what it means to him, and the music he was kind enough to share with us too in this video, played by his own heart and soul.
You may know a little more, and maybe you don't, either way starting with saying 'no offense to Rev Jones' and then 'what little vague history you tried to sum up' shows in fact your clear offensive and militant intent. There's really no need to be so scathing of a kind man sharing his take on what he believes, which of course is completely subjective depending on the importance Rev. Jones places on the earlier people you mention. He may have a long list of reasons why you are wrong, and even how the accepted narrative may be wrong, and he might be right.
In conclusion, you must not give subjective opinion and dress it up as fact, in order to defame someone okay? You big silly sausage.
@@reemlsilkworm As far as I’m concerned, Howlin’ Wolf never said that Charley Patton’s music sounded Native American, just that Patton looked/might have been Native American or (sic) “Mexican”. Even if Howlin’ Wolf did say he thought Pattons music was influenced by Native American music, Howlin’ Wolf, while a musician, is not an ethnomusicologist and would have no more of an understanding of the genetic (figuratively speaking, of course) history and culmination of the music he played than your average Joe. Most ethnomusicologists, including Elijah Wald, an outspoken researcher on blues, do not support the notion that Patton’s music is influenced by Native American music. I’m not the one dressing up opinion as fact, the people claiming Pattons music is influenced by Native American sources, when there’s zero evidence to support and a lot more in the contrary are.
@@bluesmusicandwhatnot2845I do recommend the 1 hour plus long true fire video of the reverend here on UA-cam. You will have no doubt that he knows his stuff.
And let's not act like Charlie being Native American is just plucked from thin air... However I think you are really speaking more about the native American influence on his music. I'd love to hear it broken down by someone with expertise in Native American music.