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You are disregarding the low side of the span rig. Your spruce side was higher so it's always gonna settle to the low side which put it into the wires. I've discussed this many times & think most climbers don't realize this. STAY SAFE
We talked about that on the job actually. The difference is mostly just at the top of the system and then diminishes as the piece get lower. It's often more influences by which side of the system is static and which one is dynamic. A smooth block, of course, reduces the effect of friction.
Zach, all went well considering the site. Hate to ask, did the branch that hit the top of the crossbar on the pole did the wind, or did you take the remaining piece of branches off it. If so, hopefully, no primary wires weren't involved. 99 percent of guys are around here that tree would of been crane or bucket removal. Just shows your skills are excellent. And yes, wind sucks
Thanks, Robert! I was very relieved and thankful when I saw that the windy eventually blew down the twig that got caught up there on that cross bar. If there had been primaries still on that pole, I would have declined to climb it without a line kill. Thankfully, all the power there was secondary power. In theory, it probably should have still had a line kill 🤷♂️ we could improve on that for next time.
?Huh? What the hell is a crane or a bucket? (Lol, I'm not kidding, went many years without them In Humbolt County.) Our solution was longer, kind of dull gaffs for redwood bark and having a lunch box that didn't break.
I really appreciate your content - the explanations of what you're doing and why are great - I've been at it a while myself but learn everyday. What I also really appreciate is your interactions with the groundsman. I've worked with other climbers that only give minimal or largely negative feedback. You always seem to be complimenting the groundsman on the things they are doing well. Only hearing the negative sets a guy up for believing he can't do anything right, which sets up future failure - no matter how resilient a guy is, constant negativity is never helpful. Keep it up man, I am sure your groundsman really appreciate your positivity and communication - something that can only help a job go more smoothly.
Thanks for much for saying so many limd things. I have to say it's all stuff I've learned put of experience. The better you treat others, the better they treat you and when that's happening on the crew, it's best for everyone.
Way to knock out a typical takedown. (Easy on the "rotting condition scary movie stuff", lol, that thick cambium area was fine to rig off of with those sized limbs.) The next generation of e-powersaws will blow your mind, my Brother's friend gave us a quick tour. Eventually the gas saws we use are on their way to "chainsaw heaven", ~Best
@tymesho Haha I don't think you know what a cambium is. As is usually the case, there are multiple factors that contribute to the risk in a tree. The wind, the new full canopy, the decay, the fact that it's maple, etc. Even when there is decay in the center, sap wood can support quite a load, but when the sap wood is missing from one side, a lot of integrity is lost. It all obviously worked out because we rigged small. I think you're right on though, the electric stuff is getting pretty good. I'm super pumped to get my hand on the newest milwaukee saw
Absolutely, and I think you you saying that often when a day goes a little less than perfect. It's good to aim high, but the goal is what counts the most.
Good placement relocating your pulley. I think you might have been fine on those first two limbs you span rigged if the rope was sweated and locked off on a portawrap but I wasn't there to see available space. Good to see you using battery. I've heard really good things about that milwaukee. I would get one but have several husqvarna battery tools including t540i, just don't want different chargers to plug in on site.
I think that's a good idea. Woth the cost of the batteries, is more about buying a battery system and then getting to use whatever tools fit the batteries 🙄 That's a good thought about sweating the line. I think I instructed the ground man to let it run atleast a little because holding a piece hight in a span situation can develope some really intense lateral forces and I wasn't super confident in the strength of our rigging point there 😬
So many things could have gone badly with that one . Good job (as always). Interesting to see just how much rot and decay is present once the stem is down. Makes ya say "Thank you Lord".
Nice work man! Glad it all went safely for you and the crew. Not sure if you're aware of it but Westcoast Saw makes dogs for the M18 top handle. Real nice upgrade for the saw! God bless!
Thank man! I have heard about those. I might try them. I've had some on my 500i and I'm not really in love with them on that saw. The m18 saw is different, though. It more about torque than chainspeed and I think it might like those extended dogs a little more. Thanks for bringing them to my attention!
Enjoyed the video. A difficult tree do to the location next to targets to avoid and condition of the tree. Nice job on rigging. I probably would have used a tag line on the span rig.....or maybe a straight rig with a tag line. I use tag lines whenever questionable rigs exist. JMHO
That's an excellent solution. I vaguely recall talking about it either before or after one of them got stuck. Someday I'll start remembering to put them on ahead of time 😅
Haha, it was good that I had good ground crew for that tree. As Osage Jon said somewhere here in the comments, the tree was on the ground safely at the end of the day and thats what matters the most.
That thing is a Rayco of some kind. It's biggest downfall is a single feed roller, but it also has a really wide feed opening and handle unions pretty well. It's only a 12 inch chipper.
I got poison ivy from cleaning up blown down limbs. I'm kinda skeered of those vines that you're brushing up against with abandon. No, I don't know what a poison ivy vine looks like. They all look like poison ivy to me. Are you justa itchin' anda scratchin' ? I am.
It looks like Persian Ivy, at first I thought it was English but Persian Ivy has spade-shaped leaves like this does. They can be irritating to the sinuses and some people get contact dermatitis but it's not poison ivy. Poison ivy has 3 leaves that can be either jagged-edged or smooth, usually with a slightly red tinge. The vines themselves can either be hairy or smooth. I'm thankfully not allergic to poison ivy, oak, or sumac at all and can touch it with abandon (a huge boon in the outdoor industries!). Regardless, I take all the usual precautions anyway just because it can stay on clothes + tools that others might end up handling.
Product called Oral Ivy is liquid preventative. Several drops in juice 4-7 days prior to work made it possible to top DF trees heavily laden with poison oak. Good product.
Aw man, I'm sorry to hear you've had a nasty tangle with the forbidden salad. This was not poison ivy. I've only ever known it as English ivy and it's never bothered me, but from other comments here it sounds like it could be something else too 🤷♂️
Wasnt there but seems like you cut out the good rigging point over the yard before rigging the stuff over the wires and fence. Either way nobody died lol. Them rotten maples make you question life choices lol
Excellent thought. I did consider that, but chose not to use it because it was just too far away for the amount of space we had to work with. I might have worked just as well as all the other stuff we did though 😂
We considered that. I even got the speedline kit out and made it ready in case we wanted it. I chose not to house it mostly because the speedline demands a lot of vertical space and we ended up rigging some longer pieces. If the little chain link fence wasn't there, I might be been more inclined to go that route
Good job. I could see how that could have been a very nerve racking tree but u just stay cool as a cucumber. I just curious whats your favorite rope is for the rope runner? Im fixing to get a new rope for mine and been trying to see what rope works best. Also how did you safely get those limbs off the pole? Keep the content coming!
Thanks, Chris! I can say I have much experience with different ropes in the RR. I've had good success with the bluemoon that I climbed on in this video. I know a friend of mine really likes pink phantom on his RRP. I think both devices are pretty rope tolerant. They so flatten the rope pretty hard, but m out mechanical devices do. It wasn't the safest. But we just heaved on the rope and thay was enough to let them swing away. The couple little twigs thay got stuck uo there eventually blew down. I was very thankful for that because I didn't have a good way to get them down otherwise.
Excellent work. That's a lot to deal with. Too many things could have went poorly. You seemed to handle everything intelligently and calmly.
Agreed Kevin..well said
Thanks, Kevin. I really appreciate your recognition of the bright side 😅
its commendable how humble u are
@richschultz6483 thanks, rich. I've learned the hard way that humility is what makes the days go by easier. For me and the folks I'm working with.
Would it be possible to show some of what the guys do on the ground? Like controlling the ropes and other things they do.
I might be able to do that. It's a challenge when the chipper is right there and the ground guys are chipping everything, but I'll see what I can do
What's not to like? A pleasant chap with no ego showing truthfully how a job went. Good on ya :)
Haha thanks! 😊
You are disregarding the low side of the span rig. Your spruce side was higher so it's always gonna settle to the low side which put it into the wires. I've discussed this many times & think most climbers don't realize this.
STAY SAFE
We talked about that on the job actually. The difference is mostly just at the top of the system and then diminishes as the piece get lower. It's often more influences by which side of the system is static and which one is dynamic. A smooth block, of course, reduces the effect of friction.
Zach, all went well considering the site. Hate to ask, did the branch that hit the top of the crossbar on the pole did the wind, or did you take the remaining piece of branches off it. If so, hopefully, no primary wires weren't involved. 99 percent of guys are around here that tree would of been crane or bucket removal. Just shows your skills are excellent. And yes, wind sucks
Thanks, Robert! I was very relieved and thankful when I saw that the windy eventually blew down the twig that got caught up there on that cross bar. If there had been primaries still on that pole, I would have declined to climb it without a line kill. Thankfully, all the power there was secondary power. In theory, it probably should have still had a line kill 🤷♂️ we could improve on that for next time.
?Huh? What the hell is a crane or a bucket? (Lol, I'm not kidding, went many years without them In Humbolt County.) Our solution was longer, kind of dull gaffs for redwood bark and having a lunch box that didn't break.
I really appreciate your content - the explanations of what you're doing and why are great - I've been at it a while myself but learn everyday. What I also really appreciate is your interactions with the groundsman. I've worked with other climbers that only give minimal or largely negative feedback. You always seem to be complimenting the groundsman on the things they are doing well. Only hearing the negative sets a guy up for believing he can't do anything right, which sets up future failure - no matter how resilient a guy is, constant negativity is never helpful. Keep it up man, I am sure your groundsman really appreciate your positivity and communication - something that can only help a job go more smoothly.
Thanks for much for saying so many limd things. I have to say it's all stuff I've learned put of experience. The better you treat others, the better they treat you and when that's happening on the crew, it's best for everyone.
Way to knock out a typical takedown. (Easy on the "rotting condition scary movie stuff", lol, that thick cambium area was fine to rig off of with those sized limbs.) The next generation of e-powersaws will blow your mind, my Brother's friend gave us a quick tour. Eventually the gas saws we use are on their way to "chainsaw heaven", ~Best
@tymesho Haha I don't think you know what a cambium is. As is usually the case, there are multiple factors that contribute to the risk in a tree. The wind, the new full canopy, the decay, the fact that it's maple, etc. Even when there is decay in the center, sap wood can support quite a load, but when the sap wood is missing from one side, a lot of integrity is lost. It all obviously worked out because we rigged small.
I think you're right on though, the electric stuff is getting pretty good. I'm super pumped to get my hand on the newest milwaukee saw
It's always a good day when you're back on the ground safe and no damage done.
Absolutely, and I think you you saying that often when a day goes a little less than perfect. It's good to aim high, but the goal is what counts the most.
Good placement relocating your pulley. I think you might have been fine on those first two limbs you span rigged if the rope was sweated and locked off on a portawrap but I wasn't there to see available space. Good to see you using battery. I've heard really good things about that milwaukee. I would get one but have several husqvarna battery tools including t540i, just don't want different chargers to plug in on site.
I think that's a good idea. Woth the cost of the batteries, is more about buying a battery system and then getting to use whatever tools fit the batteries 🙄
That's a good thought about sweating the line. I think I instructed the ground man to let it run atleast a little because holding a piece hight in a span situation can develope some really intense lateral forces and I wasn't super confident in the strength of our rigging point there 😬
So many things could have gone badly with that one . Good job (as always). Interesting to see just how much rot and decay is present once the stem is down. Makes ya say "Thank you Lord".
Absolutely. I've had enough close calls to know he's the one keeping me alive 😬😅
Great work thanks for the video!
Nice work man! Glad it all went safely for you and the crew. Not sure if you're aware of it but Westcoast Saw makes dogs for the M18 top handle. Real nice upgrade for the saw! God bless!
Thank man! I have heard about those. I might try them. I've had some on my 500i and I'm not really in love with them on that saw. The m18 saw is different, though. It more about torque than chainspeed and I think it might like those extended dogs a little more. Thanks for bringing them to my attention!
Enjoyed the video. A difficult tree do to the location next to targets to avoid and condition of the tree. Nice job on rigging. I probably would have used a tag line on the span rig.....or maybe a straight rig with a tag line. I use tag lines whenever questionable rigs exist. JMHO
That's an excellent solution. I vaguely recall talking about it either before or after one of them got stuck. Someday I'll start remembering to put them on ahead of time 😅
Hey Zach, nice job! A couple close calls, but all's well. That was a sketchy one.
Thanks Mike!
Great job buddy nice work as always those maples have no hinge to them at all they just snap immediately and the wood is heavy
Yeah, they just don't give you much to work with. Thanks for watching, Bill!
Awesome job brother
Thanks Todd!
that tree was dangerous af to climb lol
Man that stuff was sketchier up by your tie in than i thought. Good thing you had a smooth rope runner 😅. Jk well done up there
Haha, it was good that I had good ground crew for that tree. As Osage Jon said somewhere here in the comments, the tree was on the ground safely at the end of the day and thats what matters the most.
Nice work
Thanks!
What kind of chipper are you using?
That thing is a Rayco of some kind. It's biggest downfall is a single feed roller, but it also has a really wide feed opening and handle unions pretty well. It's only a 12 inch chipper.
I got poison ivy from cleaning up blown down limbs. I'm kinda skeered of those vines that you're brushing up against with abandon. No, I don't know what a poison ivy vine looks like. They all look like poison ivy to me.
Are you justa itchin' anda scratchin' ?
I am.
Leaves of 3 leave em be
It looks like Persian Ivy, at first I thought it was English but Persian Ivy has spade-shaped leaves like this does. They can be irritating to the sinuses and some people get contact dermatitis but it's not poison ivy. Poison ivy has 3 leaves that can be either jagged-edged or smooth, usually with a slightly red tinge. The vines themselves can either be hairy or smooth. I'm thankfully not allergic to poison ivy, oak, or sumac at all and can touch it with abandon (a huge boon in the outdoor industries!). Regardless, I take all the usual precautions anyway just because it can stay on clothes + tools that others might end up handling.
Product called Oral Ivy is liquid preventative. Several drops in juice 4-7 days prior to work made it possible to top DF trees heavily laden with poison oak. Good product.
Aw man, I'm sorry to hear you've had a nasty tangle with the forbidden salad. This was not poison ivy. I've only ever known it as English ivy and it's never bothered me, but from other comments here it sounds like it could be something else too 🤷♂️
@@arbhorrent I'm out 2 weeks when I get it bad. blisters like a horror movie. Antihistamines the doc's give for the pain/itch barely work. Bad News!
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Wasnt there but seems like you cut out the good rigging point over the yard before rigging the stuff over the wires and fence. Either way nobody died lol. Them rotten maples make you question life choices lol
Excellent thought. I did consider that, but chose not to use it because it was just too far away for the amount of space we had to work with. I might have worked just as well as all the other stuff we did though 😂
@@zaccheus Honest answer. Sometimes you don't want to waste time repositioning thinking experience will get you thru, yeh, ... it bites ya'.
was that a natural crotch on the spruce tree? how was the friction with the span rig an natural crotch?
It was just over a limb and base anchored on the spruce tree. We then controlled the line with a porta wrap on the bottom of my tree
Good watch for 5:30 in the morning.
Hahaa, that's early, man! I hope your able to get to bed at a good time!
Nice work.
Dang! I thought our maple tree last year was sketchy!😮😮😮
I’m surprised you didn’t speed line it down to the chipper?
We considered that. I even got the speedline kit out and made it ready in case we wanted it. I chose not to house it mostly because the speedline demands a lot of vertical space and we ended up rigging some longer pieces. If the little chain link fence wasn't there, I might be been more inclined to go that route
@@zaccheus Nice Work on a Dangerous Tree!
Wish you could have seen the boxelder that I just did.
Maple family trees can be....... fun.
Haha oh man, I can only imagine. Those things are wild. Naturally, they're always in some level of decline before anyone calls to have them removed.
Extremely helpful thank you for posting this video everybody has those hard days
Thanks man. I really appreciate this comment!
Nice video again. Lazy midday watch on my boat 👌
I bet it's a real nice day to be out on the water!
@@zaccheus ohh yes. But my boats a work in progress, so spent a few hours cleaning some awful hidden areas.
@@bobaverage haha, I'm not a boat man, but I'm under the impression that every boat is a work in progress 😅
Good job. I could see how that could have been a very nerve racking tree but u just stay cool as a cucumber. I just curious whats your favorite rope is for the rope runner? Im fixing to get a new rope for mine and been trying to see what rope works best. Also how did you safely get those limbs off the pole? Keep the content coming!
Thanks, Chris! I can say I have much experience with different ropes in the RR. I've had good success with the bluemoon that I climbed on in this video. I know a friend of mine really likes pink phantom on his RRP. I think both devices are pretty rope tolerant. They so flatten the rope pretty hard, but m out mechanical devices do.
It wasn't the safest. But we just heaved on the rope and thay was enough to let them swing away. The couple little twigs thay got stuck uo there eventually blew down. I was very thankful for that because I didn't have a good way to get them down otherwise.
@zaccheus thank you so much for answer questions. You really help a lot
@@5chris520 No problem! I'm happy to help as much as I can 😊
I've been watching u for sometime like exavator, but I was wondering if u have been thinking about a stump grinder like to see that in action .
I've rented one a few time for bigger projects, but I don't do enough work to buy one. I'll try to film next time I have one on a job!