You may have heard this before, but.... Your voice sounds a lot like GrowlingSidewinder. Plus, your air superiority in the F-14 is very similar. Just a curious insight. Great flying, thanks.
Did jester say "illumimati confirmed" At 5:51? It sounds like he says that But mainly, this is a great video to get good with the tomcat. At first dogfighting in the tomcat seems almost impossible ( non responsive below 200 kn etc) but once you get the hang of it, it is great in the one and two circle. Great vid
Great video. I'm just starting out in the Tomcat, and that was very helpful! With all that said, my favorite part of your video was the scripture at the end! Maranatha!
lol at guy saying F14 being excellent dogfighter isn't' realistic. I'd be more concerned with why fighters with lil stub or delta wings generally regarded for being 1 turn radius fighters have been the dcs modules with the best sustained turn rate and energy retention in DCS for several years.
acm/bfm performance of clean F14B with maneuver devices set to auto should be much better than it currently is. Heatblur underestimated/miscalculated/erroneously under projected performance of clean F14B and left it that way for years. It should be much better than it currently is.
Mock dogfights always had a hard deck for safety reasons. It is exactly being low altitude that the pancake and wings swept forward generate crazy amounts of lift that allow the Tomcat to go around a circle like crazy. F-14’s got a bad rep against F-15’s as hard deck was always 10.000ft, where the Eagles have a lot of advantages at those altitudes. In a real fight, as the fight transitions to lower and lower altitudes the Tomcats start to dominate everything, maybe the exception being the F-16.
Yeh both F15 and F14 are clearly great dogfighters. Both are big and extremely expensive aircraft, and these almost universally great flying charachteristics is what you get from that. Huge wings, large control surface and powerful engines to make up for any drag-penalty. F-14 is also extremely sturdy, supposedly moreso than an F-15. That 6.5G limit is really just to keep maintenance down, after the production got cut short. In war time I doubt they'd keep it.
@@termitreter6545 current build of heatblur dcs f14b not representative of claims you make. Dcs pvp bfm flying f14 experience demonstrated in this yt video isn't representative of my personal experience either, reasons being: no one in this bag of dicks gives a shit so not worth the explanation. I put too much time in to try and figure F14B out again, and was all a complete waste. personally pvpwise for bfm F14B is hot garbage vs 4th gens flown my anyone that can tell the difference between their asshole and a hole in the ground. To fly F14B for bfm for a worthwhile experience module has been relegated to singleplayer vs AI which is pathetic and sad compared to how much fun it used to be flying pvp bfm in it when f14 FM could run everything out of energy then work into the vertical to completely control the fight dictating it on your own terms to mention accelerate, turn, climb with anything without all the flap jam manual wingsweep fuckery you see in these videos. miss those days, but guess was all a dev lie, me dreaming, an illusion or a combination of all of the above.
@@reload54 guess you have yet to be baited into jamming your flaps then taken up hill to discover youŕe the fish in a barrel at 25,000ft??? or do we have different hearblur f14 flight/damage models? probably both
just wait until you are 200 or less to drop them and try to get them up when you know you will gain speed. Practice not jamming them. Also get use to knowing what speed you are by how the arrow is pointed on your instrument without having to zoom in on the gauge. After a while you will be able to tell the speed at a glance if you try to memorize where the arrow is pointed. Hope that helps.
In your video I didn't see your speed instrument. With the experience you know that a t certain speed ang g at the end of half loop you stay at 200 kts? I see that the initial speed is 400 kts but I don't see the GS that you pulled. Thanks for patience
I tried that with the flaps and they got often damaged if you dont pay attention to the speed. You can do that, if you know how, else you should fly without, like real pilots do
Most of DCS Pilots complain, how bad F-14 is... 😂 the issue is, they dont know how to fly it. If you fly F-16/18/ etc. the F-14 will kill you! You cant fly the Tomcat like other jets... I love this masterpiece and Heatblur did awesome job, they DID AWESOME JOB, repeat after me please... I am getting on that rocket, its hard to learn, but after few months i should be "good" with tomcat. Nice video, its amazing how you just turn so quickly.
Wrong! The F-14 can indeed kill F-15s and F-18s in constant turn rates, because it's just slightly better there, but NOT above the F-16. I'm talking about reality, not this game in which basically all fighter jets have performances errors and which you believe so much in and foul yourself. You can believe whatever you want, I've just told you how things are!
@@MaverickSu-35 I think what he was trying to say if you fly like the F16/18 etc. in the F14 it will kill you. At least that's what I understood from the context. And just something else, I think the final ' You can believe whatever you want, I've just told you how things are!' is unnecessary, as it contributes nothing, and sounds dismissive (everyone knows DCS is not fully accurate, just like no other simulator can be truly accurate with classified docs). To me, it also sounds a bit like you might be (inadvertedly) suggesting that you are superior to the OP.
@@Haz0052-tu7rr Ok, I get it, he wasn't talking about being killed by F-14 if you fly the other fighters against it, but when I've said that you can believe whatever you want regarding my statement is needed to be said because actually a good part of the players DON'T believe that DCS is wrong when simulating the performances and flight physics correctly of most modern fighters it tries to simulate and more than 90% of the time say that it's very accurate just because their imagination tells them so. That's the reason why I've said it in order to remind people of it. I'm not trying to sound superior, another wrong interpretation! I'm just speaking from the experience of talking about stuff like this for more than 15 years! Also, that "repeat after me please" thing that he said also sounds as kiddish as also proving what I've just said, that MOST DCS players think that this sim is actually as flawless as Eagle Dynamics wants to make it look like by their fancy statements which only intend to foul the already foul! I say the things as they are and don't give anything about misleading ethics! That's how I am!
@@Haz0052-tu7rr Thanks, but those who don't find themselves in what I've described shouldn't find it "harsh" anyway! So I don't have to know if they think that way, cause if they do, they fit for it automatically while the others have no reason to feel bad about it!
back then I use to have roll SAS switch turned off and had pitch SAS on my paddle so when I pulled for the shot pitch SAS would be off and then I would let go of the paddle to reengage the pitch SAS switch. Also I saw on the TV monitor that he had his air brake out so I merged a little slower at 400knots and stayed in a horizontal turn. Probably I lowered the flaps sometime during the first or second turn, back then you could jam the flaps if you did it evenly and under 200 you could raise them. So the bad news is now with the recent updates they have added more drag to the Tomcat and also the flaps don't just jam they blowback and completely fail if you go over 200 knots with full flaps down. This was over a year ago, the best version of the Tomcat for BFM, now with the updates they have kinda run the tomcat into the ground as far as being able to compete guns only BFM with the top planes F18 and Mirage.
That's 100% not true 99% of the time 😁As long as you don't jam the flaps you can manual wingsweep at any time. I've never heard of the wings jamming? maybe you are thinking flaps?
High light reals do not provide much material to analyze. However, I’ll go out on a limb and project that the skill level of the pilots you are going against seems near or below average. They are making novice mistakes very early in the engagements. For example, the first F-16 pilot dumped tremendous energy down low at the merge. While the viper can do okay in slow one-circle turns, it is better suited for rating around a two-circle fight, as we all know (LongShot, 2023). Yes, any fighter jet can indeed kill any other plane. But I argue that in the examples you provided, it isn’t as much the 14’s capabilities responsible for the successful engagements. Instead, the level of the adversary’s skills produced the results you experienced in this iteration of DCS. LongShot, 2023. F-16 Viper VS F-14 Tomcat High-Speed Dogfight | DCS World. ua-cam.com/video/tEMajN_-wVM/v-deo.html
These seem to be human pilots and prone to making mistakes. But what against AI aircraft like Mig-29's and Su-27's? They seem to have exaggerated aircraft and pilot performance.
I was expecting you to talk through what you were doing... just watching you I dknt really have any idea what you are doing. More of a commentary video would be better. ❤
I literally talked you through everything I do in the tomcat including how I set it up, how I prepare the merge, how I do my wings and flaps, how I merge and what speeds I merge at. Not sure what else I can do :)
@Reload Gaming Videos you said. I keybind master arm on, I use manual wingsweep, i drop flaps under 200kts and dont max aoa... that stuff is common knowldge man.. then you went into the fight. I love your videos man dont get me wrong but commentary over the fights would be great. I have absolutely no idea how you snap turn over head that fast.. no idea how you don't stall the jet in turns.. I need to know your speed and what you are pressing as you are pressing it. Sure you use manual wingsweep and flaps but when in the actual fights do you use it? How are you pulling the maneuvers you are pulling because I try ro replicate and have actually no idea when to use the tools you describe.
@@chadvader974 so I'll always drop the flaps when I hit below 200 and try to pull them back up before I go over 200 but sometimes against a hornet or mirage they will have to stay down and get jammed. I've learned how to roll and pull the tomcat around while looking over my shoulders with track ir so I know what it's doing even when I have my head turned away and honestly it just takes time and practice to get the feel, but it will come with time and before you know it you will know how to pull and roll with the rudder pedals without even looking out the front.
Right off the bat, you are saying, get wings in manual, bypassing the wing sweep schedule, exceeding limitations and over stressing the airframe… Dude, even if you shoot down stuff, your airplane will end up with severe structural damage…you might as well not even land. Just eject after your missiles are out. Do you happen to have any real tips or just gamer mentality cheating stuff???
Almost as if DCS doesn't simulate airframe stress nor does it give the player any reason to care about long term airframe stress aside from muh realism.
The F-16 outaccelerates and outturns the F-14 in any condition, except for instantaneous turn rates until the F-14 drastically looses speed. So..., not as much as you'd prefer, but the F-14 can't normally kill the F-16 in guns only fights both in vertical and horizontal plane. The plane performances and physics speak, not us! Simple fact proof for what I say? UA-cam videos FTW! A 360 degree fastest turn by an F-14 is 20 seconds (1 second later than a MIG-29). A 360 degree fastest turn by an F-16 is 15..16 seconds. Quite a gap inbetween them!
yes, the F18 is really good. It's almost the best in 1 circle and it is the best in 2 circle. It's like the all-madden player of DCS, 99 level in all categories 😁
This is seriously the silliest logic I've heard. I could say the F14 can't be beat if the F14 pilot makes no mistake. Meanwhile,in reality, experienced F14 pilots were smoking Hornet pilots. I think their needs to be a disclaimer "DCS logic" applied to these statements.
Danke!
You may have heard this before, but.... Your voice sounds a lot like GrowlingSidewinder. Plus, your air superiority in the F-14 is very similar.
Just a curious insight.
Great flying, thanks.
Did jester say "illumimati confirmed" At 5:51? It sounds like he says that
But mainly, this is a great video to get good with the tomcat. At first dogfighting in the tomcat seems almost impossible ( non responsive below 200 kn etc) but once you get the hang of it, it is great in the one and two circle. Great vid
yeah he did XD
Great video. I'm just starting out in the Tomcat, and that was very helpful! With all that said, my favorite part of your video was the scripture at the end! Maranatha!
The j11 and the f14 are my most fav jets in the game, f14 always a blast to fly around.
lol at guy saying F14 being excellent dogfighter isn't' realistic. I'd be more concerned with why fighters with lil stub or delta wings generally regarded for being 1 turn radius fighters have been the dcs modules with the best sustained turn rate and energy retention in DCS for several years.
acm/bfm performance of clean F14B with maneuver devices set to auto should be much better than it currently is. Heatblur underestimated/miscalculated/erroneously under projected performance of clean F14B and left it that way for years. It should be much better than it currently is.
Mock dogfights always had a hard deck for safety reasons. It is exactly being low altitude that the pancake and wings swept forward generate crazy amounts of lift that allow the Tomcat to go around a circle like crazy.
F-14’s got a bad rep against F-15’s as hard deck was always 10.000ft, where the Eagles have a lot of advantages at those altitudes. In a real fight, as the fight transitions to lower and lower altitudes the Tomcats start to dominate everything, maybe the exception being the F-16.
@@bricktamland3520 Heatblur has just redone the F-14As flight model, should fly better. F-14B is next to come.
Yeh both F15 and F14 are clearly great dogfighters. Both are big and extremely expensive aircraft, and these almost universally great flying charachteristics is what you get from that. Huge wings, large control surface and powerful engines to make up for any drag-penalty.
F-14 is also extremely sturdy, supposedly moreso than an F-15. That 6.5G limit is really just to keep maintenance down, after the production got cut short. In war time I doubt they'd keep it.
@@termitreter6545 current build of heatblur dcs f14b not representative of claims you make. Dcs pvp bfm flying f14 experience demonstrated in this yt video isn't representative of my personal experience either, reasons being: no one in this bag of dicks gives a shit so not worth the explanation. I put too much time in to try and figure F14B out again, and was all a complete waste. personally pvpwise for bfm F14B is hot garbage vs 4th gens flown my anyone that can tell the difference between their asshole and a hole in the ground. To fly F14B for bfm for a worthwhile experience module has been relegated to singleplayer vs AI which is pathetic and sad compared to how much fun it used to be flying pvp bfm in it when f14 FM could run everything out of energy then work into the vertical to completely control the fight dictating it on your own terms to mention accelerate, turn, climb with anything without all the flap jam manual wingsweep fuckery you see in these videos. miss those days, but guess was all a dev lie, me dreaming, an illusion or a combination of all of the above.
TIL jester has the line “time for some of that pilot shit!”
11:34 and is that a rainbow!?
Only plane in DCS that is a pain in the ass to deal with in a decent pilot flying is the F15.
i can make the f14 a pain in the ass for myself being a NOT decent pilot! hah! 🤣😛
i fly the f-15c a lot and i feel like it’s the easiest module i own by far
So basically wing sweep manual full fwd all times, flaps when < 200kts and of course a lot of rudder
Good stickwork there! How do you handle the new wing rock they introduced recently?
How do you get such fast turns without falling out the air
what percentage of gun fights that you won in this video would you say you jammed your flaps/broke your jet?
Are you one of the virtual maintenance crew that works on flaps? Stop complaining and just fix my flaps and bring me coffee 🤣
@@reload54 you ever try to chase down a clean viper that goes full astrohog once he decides you got him in the turn fight(but you have jammed flaps)?
halfway through the video and so far it's 100% of the time lmao. Still awesome though
@@reload54 guess you have yet to be baited into jamming your flaps then taken up hill to discover youŕe the fish in a barrel at 25,000ft??? or do we have different hearblur f14 flight/damage models? probably both
Just curious why the choice to use the manual wing sweep handle when you can use the hat that is on the throttle to wing sweep?
That was aggressive AF. Nice kills
thank you for instruction, but I dont see the speed to open flaps, how can I do?If I open flaps over 250 kts I brokes rhem.
What do yoy suggest?
tks
just wait until you are 200 or less to drop them and try to get them up when you know you will gain speed. Practice not jamming them. Also get use to knowing what speed you are by how the arrow is pointed on your instrument without having to zoom in on the gauge. After a while you will be able to tell the speed at a glance if you try to memorize where the arrow is pointed. Hope that helps.
@@reload54 thanks. I'll try , f14 is very difficult.
In your video I didn't see your speed instrument. With the experience you know that a t certain speed ang g at the end of half loop you stay at 200 kts? I see that the initial speed is 400 kts but I don't see the GS that you pulled. Thanks for patience
I tried that with the flaps and they got often damaged if you dont pay attention to the speed. You can do that, if you know how, else you should fly without, like real pilots do
Most of DCS Pilots complain, how bad F-14 is... 😂 the issue is, they dont know how to fly it. If you fly F-16/18/ etc. the F-14 will kill you! You cant fly the Tomcat like other jets...
I love this masterpiece and Heatblur did awesome job, they DID AWESOME JOB, repeat after me please...
I am getting on that rocket, its hard to learn, but after few months i should be "good" with tomcat.
Nice video, its amazing how you just turn so quickly.
Wrong! The F-14 can indeed kill F-15s and F-18s in constant turn rates, because it's just slightly better there, but NOT above the F-16. I'm talking about reality, not this game in which basically all fighter jets have performances errors and which you believe so much in and foul yourself. You can believe whatever you want, I've just told you how things are!
@@MaverickSu-35 I think what he was trying to say if you fly like the F16/18 etc. in the F14 it will kill you. At least that's what I understood from the context.
And just something else, I think the final ' You can believe whatever you want, I've just told you how things are!' is unnecessary, as it contributes nothing, and sounds dismissive (everyone knows DCS is not fully accurate, just like no other simulator can be truly accurate with classified docs). To me, it also sounds a bit like you might be (inadvertedly) suggesting that you are superior to the OP.
@@Haz0052-tu7rr
Ok, I get it, he wasn't talking about being killed by F-14 if you fly the other fighters against it, but when I've said that you can believe whatever you want regarding my statement is needed to be said because actually a good part of the players DON'T believe that DCS is wrong when simulating the performances and flight physics correctly of most modern fighters it tries to simulate and more than 90% of the time say that it's very accurate just because their imagination tells them so. That's the reason why I've said it in order to remind people of it. I'm not trying to sound superior, another wrong interpretation! I'm just speaking from the experience of talking about stuff like this for more than 15 years!
Also, that "repeat after me please" thing that he said also sounds as kiddish as also proving what I've just said, that MOST DCS players think that this sim is actually as flawless as Eagle Dynamics wants to make it look like by their fancy statements which only intend to foul the already foul! I say the things as they are and don't give anything about misleading ethics! That's how I am!
@@MaverickSu-35 That is a fair point, but the way you phrased it seems fairly harsh, especially when you don't even know if they think that.
@@Haz0052-tu7rr
Thanks, but those who don't find themselves in what I've described shouldn't find it "harsh" anyway! So I don't have to know if they think that way, cause if they do, they fit for it automatically while the others have no reason to feel bad about it!
2:49 What are the exact inputs and wing/flap settings here, as not matter what I cannot recreate this level of turn at all
back then I use to have roll SAS switch turned off and had pitch SAS on my paddle so when I pulled for the shot pitch SAS would be off and then I would let go of the paddle to reengage the pitch SAS switch. Also I saw on the TV monitor that he had his air brake out so I merged a little slower at 400knots and stayed in a horizontal turn. Probably I lowered the flaps sometime during the first or second turn, back then you could jam the flaps if you did it evenly and under 200 you could raise them. So the bad news is now with the recent updates they have added more drag to the Tomcat and also the flaps don't just jam they blowback and completely fail if you go over 200 knots with full flaps down. This was over a year ago, the best version of the Tomcat for BFM, now with the updates they have kinda run the tomcat into the ground as far as being able to compete guns only BFM with the top planes F18 and Mirage.
How do you fancy taking on a Harrier in 1v1?
Everyone loves the TomCat and its Jupiter sized cross section.
Oh man you are revealing all my secrets!! *wink wink*
Tbh this just seems like the Hornet pilot is not flying effectively. They were basically not even trying.
Everyone knows by now that you just hit the brakes and they fly right past you.
DO you have rudder pedals and do you use them to roll the jet?
yes
Bind your chair UP/chair DOWN it helps too
very nice, would you share your TrackIR and joystick settings? I´m pretty new and have struggle finding the right settings
What are your graphic settings the game looks beautiful!
Why did you blur out the damage overlay?
Modesty, so as to not call out the victims
@@miked5562 I kind of thought that, but why would it matter? Everyone gets shot down in DCS at some point no matter how good they are.
OMG that intro was amazing!😍
Manual wingsweep will result in wing jam 100% of the time.
That's 100% not true 99% of the time 😁As long as you don't jam the flaps you can manual wingsweep at any time. I've never heard of the wings jamming? maybe you are thinking flaps?
@@reload54 probably. When I manually swing the wings, I’ve never had any problems.
ive heard of flaps jamming in dcs (hell i had that happen to me many a time) but wing sweep jamming?
Flaps jam on tomcat all the time, never had wings jam
F35 be like. Slash one.
the f14 is a top g certified aerial predator
Nice bro😊
Illuminati confirmed???
High light reals do not provide much material to analyze. However, I’ll go out on a limb and project that the skill level of the pilots you are going against seems near or below average. They are making novice mistakes very early in the engagements. For example, the first F-16 pilot dumped tremendous energy down low at the merge. While the viper can do okay in slow one-circle turns, it is better suited for rating around a two-circle fight, as we all know (LongShot, 2023).
Yes, any fighter jet can indeed kill any other plane. But I argue that in the examples you provided, it isn’t as much the 14’s capabilities responsible for the successful engagements. Instead, the level of the adversary’s skills produced the results you experienced in this iteration of DCS.
LongShot, 2023. F-16 Viper VS F-14 Tomcat High-Speed Dogfight | DCS World.
ua-cam.com/video/tEMajN_-wVM/v-deo.html
First pilot reversed right in front of his nose.
Why no FLANKER!!!!
These seem to be human pilots and prone to making mistakes. But what against AI aircraft like Mig-29's and Su-27's? They seem to have exaggerated aircraft and pilot performance.
None of this would work against DCS AI. It likes to stay high and fast - opposite gameplan to what is on display here.
@@riman8493 Thought so. Thanks!
I was expecting you to talk through what you were doing... just watching you I dknt really have any idea what you are doing. More of a commentary video would be better. ❤
I literally talked you through everything I do in the tomcat including how I set it up, how I prepare the merge, how I do my wings and flaps, how I merge and what speeds I merge at. Not sure what else I can do :)
@Reload Gaming Videos you said. I keybind master arm on, I use manual wingsweep, i drop flaps under 200kts and dont max aoa... that stuff is common knowldge man.. then you went into the fight. I love your videos man dont get me wrong but commentary over the fights would be great. I have absolutely no idea how you snap turn over head that fast.. no idea how you don't stall the jet in turns.. I need to know your speed and what you are pressing as you are pressing it. Sure you use manual wingsweep and flaps but when in the actual fights do you use it? How are you pulling the maneuvers you are pulling because I try ro replicate and have actually no idea when to use the tools you describe.
@@chadvader974 so I'll always drop the flaps when I hit below 200 and try to pull them back up before I go over 200 but sometimes against a hornet or mirage they will have to stay down and get jammed. I've learned how to roll and pull the tomcat around while looking over my shoulders with track ir so I know what it's doing even when I have my head turned away and honestly it just takes time and practice to get the feel, but it will come with time and before you know it you will know how to pull and roll with the rudder pedals without even looking out the front.
Right off the bat, you are saying, get wings in manual, bypassing the wing sweep schedule, exceeding limitations and over stressing the airframe…
Dude, even if you shoot down stuff, your airplane will end up with severe structural damage…you might as well not even land. Just eject after your missiles are out.
Do you happen to have any real tips or just gamer mentality cheating stuff???
Almost as if DCS doesn't simulate airframe stress nor does it give the player any reason to care about long term airframe stress aside from muh realism.
Found the Iranian using DCS gameplay for real-world training!
Wtf are you on about?😂
The F-16 outaccelerates and outturns the F-14 in any condition, except for instantaneous turn rates until the F-14 drastically looses speed. So..., not as much as you'd prefer, but the F-14 can't normally kill the F-16 in guns only fights both in vertical and horizontal plane. The plane performances and physics speak, not us!
Simple fact proof for what I say? UA-cam videos FTW! A 360 degree fastest turn by an F-14 is 20 seconds (1 second later than a MIG-29). A 360 degree fastest turn by an F-16 is 15..16 seconds. Quite a gap inbetween them!
Correct, Australia has terrible internet
Tomcot 😄
Good Lord, your opponents were grapes.
what's your player name btw? come show us how it's done
@@reload54
I don’t do DCS.
But I know novice dogfighting when I see it.
@@benjaminperez7328 of course, well we are having fun, good luck with your life.
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So far, so good, pal.
@@benjaminperez7328 I'm sure you spread joy where ever you are
The f18 cant be beat in the Tomcat if the f18 pilot makes no mistake
yes, the F18 is really good. It's almost the best in 1 circle and it is the best in 2 circle. It's like the all-madden player of DCS, 99 level in all categories 😁
@@reload54 its actually also better in the 1 circle than the mirage if you use spin mode and diff thrust
But the mirage gains the 1C advantage by using the paddle (ELASTIC OVERRIDE) so…
@@7Amps i fought many of the best mirage pilots idk if they used this but they didnt win 🤷🏻♂️
This is seriously the silliest logic I've heard. I could say the F14 can't be beat if the F14 pilot makes no mistake. Meanwhile,in reality, experienced F14 pilots were smoking Hornet pilots. I think their needs to be a disclaimer "DCS logic" applied to these statements.
love to have your TR profile .. I can send you my email, I need some help with that. been using a modified GS file
sorry for the late reply but I have a TR video on my channel if you can find it
''How to beat everything''... kinda reminds me of movies from the USA. Saying that ''the world is under attack'' but only shows the USA lol