Outstanding interview with an outstanding individual…as someone from another overseas colony that was sold down the river by the British Government I have always been saddened by the way Rhodesia and it’s people were so badly treated by Britain and by the disgraceful imposition of the Lancaster House Agreement. As a staunch ally of the UK in two World Wars we then turned our backs on Rhodesia in its hour of need…a truly disgraceful act of betrayal …just look at what has become of Rhodesia now and the UK..both shadows of their former glory…both destroyed by successive useless and weak British Governments….. please keep these excellent interviews coming.
I’m British. You’re damn right about the uk. Now that they’ve run out of others to betray, they’ve turned on us. It’s disgusting. It’s not really them, of course: they have their masters. The money power.
Excellent talk and perspective on the war and the people of Rhodesia during a time that most people today would not know about or understand. Mushi! Thank you, Greg and Tony.
This second episode deals with Ops using Rhodesia as a base. I learned a lot of facts from this clip that are written up differently in various books recording the bush war in Rhodesia. For political reasons the South African involvement in the war was ghosted out. Greg's account puts to right his units record of some of the key battles in the dying days of the Bush War. The SADF took a lot of experience from here and used it in the country's war with Angola and the South West African Peoples Organisation SWAPO. John, Hannes and Tony thanks for putting the record down on this platform. To Greg and all the South African ouens a big thank you. Manne u het my respect.
OK, Greg is ten years younger than I am, but his memory is sharp and yusus he is articulate: he has the ability to take you right there into the heat of the action.
Thank you Mr. Ashton for taking time to speak about this. You, Tony, Hannes and all the ouens are everything that is right, proper and hopeful with Africa today. Be it as a legacy or for the future. Thank you for being part in what is a great story that can stand the test of time.
Absolutly wonderful. A sincere proper soldier whose presentation echos many of our feelings over that period. Whatever anyone says we did our duty for what was right and just. Like so many fighting men we were betrayed by the politicians, again.
I love listening to the accounts of people who served in different units to you and you start to appreciate that so much more was playing out that you knew about. However, Tony is right when he says Greg paints a picture that only those who experienced it can fully appreciate. Great interview and heartfelt thanks to those guys who served and paid the ultimate sacrifice when it wasn’t even their country. The support of the people was amazing and whilst Tony has a lump in his throat, I have tears. Thanks Greg 💪
This interview topped part one which was excellent. Tears on remembering the armada of choppers on the way home from Snoopy was a tear jerker for me too. Thanks for this Greg. Also appreciated both of you showing the place of this small struggle in the big picture near the end. If we had collectively not stood up, the world would be a different place today. If what I am seeing in the comments below is true, that there is a part 3 and 4, I seriously can't wait.
A great account given by Greg - fantastic description in fine detail ! Clearly a professional and very switched on soldier and excellent story teller! Thank you Greg and Tony and the FMOR team ! These stories are a splendid record of history and legacy of our hondo.👍💪 Greatest Respect!
Brilliant and clear recollection of a time when the best of the best were honed into legends of war. Impossible to differentiate between Greg‘s mannerisms and the average Rhodesian soldier. True brothers in arms. Salute 🫡
A huge thanks to Greg and Tony Greg made the talks incredibly interesting he has an ability to bring to life his escapades , a huge thanks to him and his team for what they did for Rhodesia . Tony I recently read your book “A walk against the stream “ an excellent read . I was intake 109 and so much of what was in your book made me smile
PTSD is a far greater monster than most people recognise. For me, about 38 years were ruined, I knew my behaviour could get very weird, but I never put 2 and 2 together until the day I was cured, an immediate personality change, and I've witnessed that in others too.
I was only 9 years old in 1976 but youth group of 1976 was so active those days in matebeleland I never see and know about zanu only ZAPU was more active I think ZAPU gave you hadtime in matebeleland I was young but I still remember everything like yesterday
Tatenda Tony and Greg I think I can say with little fear of contradiction that we should welcome Greg as a honorary Rhodesian. Thank you for what you did and indeed said in your interview. I too had tears and such heartache for what was. Cheers to you both
Big picture outcome of that era, to quote the title of Mike Walsh's book, "Rhodesia's Death: Europe's Funeral". Greg is an inspiring story-teller. He and all the South Africans who were tasked to fly in and aid us during the bush war are, in my opinion, all honorary Rhodesians. They all have our love and appreciation and gratitude forever. Greg oozes the Rhodesian spirit of that time which is really the ethnic-European spirit (which is rather hibernating at this time in the West sadly just when it is needed most).
Thanks for an excellent interview Greg … more of your story needs to be heard! I have very fond memories of the fabulous weekends spent on your family farm when we were at school together as young teenagers at Lowveld High. Keep well and thanks again, brother …
Great Listening to him in the previous interview he spoke of Rick van Daro he and I were room mates at Inf School 78 Rick came from East Londen also my home town also spent time at Malabahota there I Bumbt into 1 of my homeys from 1 of SA Para units
Great to hear that, Kevin. I lost touch with Ric for years. He's no settled in Canada and has been for some years now after an interesting career in the military
Helicopter numbers. I remember an inteligence summary (we called it the gloom sheet) from early 78 i think saying we had 18 Allouette III. I believe that was before the Bell 205s were operational. 4 fireforces working across the country. When did the SA fireforces come? X, Y and Z? Was that mid 79? Rhodesia did so much with so little, with help of course from SA.
I got my statistics from Peter Petter-Bowyers book and I think (!) cant remember, also Prop Geledenhuyses Op Nickel. Big batches of choppers would arrive from SA for big ops.
I have an idea that late 77 or early 78 was the low point. ALSO I don't suppose Rhodesia govt wanted to openly acknowledge SA choppers presence at that stage. After the April 79 election SA involvement became very obvious. It was an extremely interesting time, and full of hope, only to be dashed by results of Lancaster House.
To help clarify!, Op Snoopy, the picture shown, referring to the Puma is in fact a Super Frelon. Op Uric, the picture of a Puma overflying the base, with fuel tanker & tents, was infact the rear base, Oscar Alpha in chipinda pools, inside Rhodesia. The fwd base, Oscar Bravo was set up in a remote National park, in Mozambique, North of the Mapai/Barragem road/railway line. The 3 bridges Greg Referring to are in the south end of Gaza province , all bridges on the Limpopo River, been the responsibility of troops from 1 Recce & 5 Recce. The large bridge at Barragem was the responsibility of the SAS & that join took a good 6hrs or so, to place the charges, as alot had to be slung under the spans in nets.
"I put no trust in my bow, my sword does not bring me victory, You, Lord, give us victory over our enemies, You put our adversaries to shame." - The words of King David, Book of Psalms 44:6 - 8 NIV Greg honours GOD GOD will honour Greg. Thank you for posting.
Another good video. Tony, you CAN get decent bacon in the UK, but you need to buy stuff that's dry-cured, not wet-cured. That written, the best bacon is the stuff that's home made - one of my boys has some pigs this year and we are already anticipating the meals to come... 🙂
Well done gents, a great interview - very interesting. In defence of British bacon......if you buy dry cured it wont shrink to half its size, I wonder how Rhodesian bacon was cured? If anyone knows it would be interesting to find out!
😅OK, some orientation needed here! The map indication is Wrong!, it's 300K north of that, in the Manica province, basically Op Snoppy was Chimoio 2. Despatch was from Grand Reef, outside Umtali. The only despatch from Buffalo Range, works be to move the Recce contingent upto grand Reef. Btw, crappy weather and rather hazzy, hunter got the wrong hill and Straffed a SAS c/s, killing one guy 😢.
Great story, told so well. Thank you for serving Rhodesia. God bless you and your family. Pity South Africa did not support us more. Hannes told us that Samora Machel by 1979 was ready to kick ZANLA out. Message got to Walls, and there it died? Dunno?
I was in the SA Army but I was at university in Cape Town with lots of Rhodies. I ran a student pub so I met lots of them ☺. I think what you say about the connection between Rhodie civilians and soldiers is true. The Rhodie girls were very supportive of the Rhodie ex soldiers. The SA girls and civilians didn't support SA soldiers the same way. I think this is because the Rhodie war was right in amongst the civilians while SAs Angolan war was some abstract place called the border about 2500km away. The Rhodie war was survival for everyone. The SA war wasn't.
Thanks again Greg, Tony and John for a wonderful interview. In the, dare I say tradition of FMOR, Greg has openly professed his Christian beliefs as have others before him. Well done..
Great chat guys, thanks. The importance of taking the war into enemy territory eas so important. Nostalia lies in the following recent whatsapp post going around that I copied and pasted for all Rhodesians who did not see it. Back You are a Rhodesian when..... You eat cuts of meat today that were ration meat in the old days. You have given up looking for a good meat pie. You had a servant called Sixpence. You miss the smell of red stoep polish. You bore or frighten your children with harrowing tales of your deprived upbringing in the days when TV started at 17H00 and kids were expected to ride push bikes to school.. .You still butter bread by holding the slice in your hand... You wish you'd had the presence of mind to keep mum's morris minor You ate supper in Vila da Manhica, the Vila Perry, Maxies or Guido's on occasions. You can remember the beer adverts on the tin trays the hotel waiters used.. .You can remember thinking that Bengal Juice was OK. You still believe it's wrong to use bad language in mixed company You still think of traffic lights as robots You know the words to more than two ABBA songs You HATE washing your car and mowing your lawn. Ironing is still something other people do You still find it hard to throw things away when they could be fixed You went to a school that taught real subjects like grammar and history You went to a school where instead of being "counselled", unruly students were beaten - and it worked! You complained to your father that you were disciplined at school - only to find he thought it was a good idea. You used to call your parents' friends "Uncle" and "Aunty" You have driven on a strip road You long for that soft morning glow that brightens the Mashonaland sky between 6am and 8am. Really miss a great, fantastic, bed rattling, window shaking, earth tremoring, all-kids-and-animals-in-the-parents'-bed tropical storm. You parked your car in a car park and couldn't find it again, because it was a blue Renault 4. Someone stole your car and returned it. the next day, because it was a Renault 4 and they felt sorry for you (hell they were too embarrassed to be seen driving it)! You remember watching the brown grass turn green after a day's rain. Arguing that Castle was for men Lion was for kids, and pommies You put green stripes on your R4 so that you could find it in that car park!!! You found a hundred R4s with green stripes on them !! You still wonder what this thing polystyrene is, you know of kaylite. You still refer to Koki pens as Neo's. Muuush is still common in your vocabulary, as is 'lekker'. You still have Wrex Tarr's "Chilapalapa" LP's and know the words to "Cockie Lobbin". You hear crickets in July and remember the December Christmas beetles. You know or still write to someone from PE, Saints, Churchill, Allan Wilson, EllisRobins, Falcon College, Plumtree, Eveline High, Townsend School,Chaplin, Sinoia, Plummers, Guinea Fowl, MGHS or Gwebi Agricultural College. You drank Tanganda tea or Preema Coffee (or Daybreak). You shopped at Truworth's, Edgar's, Meikle's or Kingston's, Greater man's or Haddon and Sly. You had an avocado, mango, guava and pawpaw tree in your garden and went bike riding to friends houses to pick mulberry leaves for your silkworms. You played in a sand pit and on a jungle gym. You thought bilharzia was an incurable disease but still swam in the rivers, dams anyway. You remember jacaranda trees in full bloom on North Ave. You remember when a Coke or ice-lolly cost a tickie. You miss the taste of bream fried on the side of the dam five minutes after you caught it. You have at least one ivory, soapstone or wooden carving. You still remember the taste of gem squash and melted butter, mealies and Mazoe Orange Juice. You think there is no green surpassing that of the Sandawana emeralds. You still expect to see a chongololo after an afternoon rain and a few flying ants. You still believe your A-levels were harder than most first-year University courses today .You still refer to an expert as a "fundi". You still say "braai" instead of "barbecue" or "kopje" instead of "hill". The following names mean something to you: "Sandro's", "Arkies", "Club Tomorrow", The Carlton Club, The Stork Club, Bretts and La Boheme You collected coke cans on your trips to South Africa 'cos they were so cool. You still can't get your head around the idea of throwing away a glass coke or beer bottle, instead of taking it back for the deposit. You remember the days when you got change from your bus-fare, and used it to buy sweets at the tuck shop. You've ever sat at Castle Corner in the cricket grounds - and can't remember who won the cricket match. You bought a Cricket Union T-shirt from a girl vending them around the cricket grounds - and tried to get her to sell you the one she was wearing. You were there when the 'chicken farmer' beat England - who could forget "Eddo". You think the "all Blacks" are the Zimbabwe Tennis Team. You were a member of Hellenics / Callies / Raylton / Alex / Postals /Old Miltonians / Mac Club / B.A.C. / Queens / or Raylton. You've ever been boating on Lake Mac - before the hyacinth. You've ever driven up to Montclair in Inyanga for an evening's gambling and been back at work the next day. You still think the most haunting sound in the world is the cry of the fish eagle. You've never carried your own golf clubs, and think that golf carts are a sign of weakness. You've spent an hour looking for a lost golf ball at the 'police' course or Salisbury South - on the fairway! You thought that an evening at Reps was the height of culture. Good beer comes in brown bottles. You know at least one person who has 'streaked' at the Salisbury Cricket Grounds. You remember sitting for hours in petrol queues - and not getting any. You ever got fifteen people into a VW Kombi - long enough to get past the gates at the 'drive-in'. You made out in the back of a car at the 'Nitestar' , the Sky View or the Mabelreign Drive-in. You thought the Borrowdale Road was a motorway. You remember with nostalgia the days when the Zim Dollar was trading at eleven to one against the greenback. Those were the days my friends !
@@fraseredk7433 I think what he is saying is that Christianity was not on display or in use by most men. In most armies padres prayed for men in groups before battle. Not really heard of in Rhodesia.
My dad fought as a tank driver in North Africa and through Italy. He was not proud of his service. His comment was that I must not believe anything about that war. I have since concluded that it was just another Bankster's war where brother Saxon was set against brother Saxon; much like what is happening in the Ukraine now, where it is brother Slav against brother Slav. For what? Oil. Read Our Oera Linda Saxons. We must set ourselves free of the Daemons of Abrahamism. I refer you to psychologist Jerry Marzinsky.
Ethnicity is what we are. We should never fight each other…. But that is why the West is failing. Unless some political Messiah saves the West , it’s all over. My time left is limited, and maybe fortunately I will not witness the downfall.
I have just done episodes 3 & 4 with Greg. Just amazing info in them - stunning!!
Outstanding interview with an outstanding individual…as someone from another overseas colony that was sold down the river by the British Government I have always been saddened by the way Rhodesia and it’s people were so badly treated by Britain and by the disgraceful imposition of the Lancaster House Agreement. As a staunch ally of the UK in two World Wars we then turned our backs on Rhodesia in its hour of need…a truly disgraceful act of betrayal …just look at what has become of Rhodesia now and the UK..both shadows of their former glory…both destroyed by successive useless and weak British Governments….. please keep these excellent interviews coming.
I’m British. You’re damn right about the uk. Now that they’ve run out of others to betray, they’ve turned on us. It’s disgusting. It’s not really them, of course: they have their masters. The money power.
Excellent talk and perspective on the war and the people of Rhodesia during a time that most people today would not know about or understand. Mushi!
Thank you, Greg and Tony.
One of the best guests so far. Thank you for providing so much detail. It’s what makes these stories so interesting and important.
This second episode deals with Ops using Rhodesia as a base. I learned a lot of facts from this clip that are written up differently in various books recording the bush war in Rhodesia. For political reasons the South African involvement in the war was ghosted out. Greg's account puts to right his units record of some of the key battles in the dying days of the Bush War. The SADF took a lot of experience from here and used it in the country's war with Angola and the South West African Peoples Organisation SWAPO. John, Hannes and Tony thanks for putting the record down on this platform. To Greg and all the South African ouens a big thank you. Manne u het my respect.
OK, Greg is ten years younger than I am, but his memory is sharp and yusus he is articulate: he has the ability to take you right there into the heat of the action.
Take you into the “heat of the action”’ and smell the cordite 47 years later even if you can’t remember the names of the other 3 guys in your stick 🥲
Thank you Mr. Ashton for taking time to speak about this. You, Tony, Hannes and all the ouens are everything that is right, proper and hopeful with Africa today. Be it as a legacy or for the future. Thank you for being part in what is a great story that can stand the test of time.
thank you Paul for your kind words. We simply share a common gene pool of wonderful people.(Tony B)
Great story . Thanks D squadron for fighting for Rhodesia. As good as our best. Dankie
Absolutly wonderful. A sincere proper soldier whose presentation echos many of our feelings over that period.
Whatever anyone says we did our duty for what was right and just.
Like so many fighting men we were betrayed by the politicians, again.
What an amazing talk, so enthralling. Thank you so much for this interview...
I love listening to the accounts of people who served in different units to you and you start to appreciate that so much more was playing out that you knew about. However, Tony is right when he says Greg paints a picture that only those who experienced it can fully appreciate. Great interview and heartfelt thanks to those guys who served and paid the ultimate sacrifice when it wasn’t even their country. The support of the people was amazing and whilst Tony has a lump in his throat, I have tears. Thanks Greg 💪
This interview topped part one which was excellent. Tears on remembering the armada of choppers on the way home from Snoopy was a tear jerker for me too. Thanks for this Greg. Also appreciated both of you showing the place of this small struggle in the big picture near the end. If we had collectively not stood up, the world would be a different place today. If what I am seeing in the comments below is true, that there is a part 3 and 4, I seriously can't wait.
Glad you enjoyed it
A great account given by Greg - fantastic description in fine detail !
Clearly a professional and very switched on soldier and excellent story teller!
Thank you Greg and Tony and the FMOR team !
These stories are a splendid record of history and legacy of our hondo.👍💪
Greatest Respect!
Time to write a book Greg.
What a great guest and an excellent story teller. Could listen to Greg all day. Thank you from the (traitorous) UK
I second that mate
Brilliant and clear recollection of a time when the best of the best were honed into legends of war. Impossible to differentiate between Greg‘s mannerisms and the average Rhodesian soldier. True brothers in arms. Salute 🫡
Great story Greg thank you for your contribution
A huge thanks to Greg and Tony Greg made the talks incredibly interesting he has an ability to bring to life his escapades , a huge thanks to him and his team for what they did for Rhodesia .
Tony I recently read your book “A walk against the stream “ an excellent read . I was intake 109 and so much of what was in your book made me smile
One of the best episodes. Greg, you are natural. Can we some more on your time in the RECCES.
For sure. Tony hinted at that too
Being recorded this Saturady 27th April
PTSD is a far greater monster than most people recognise. For me, about 38 years were ruined, I knew my behaviour could get very weird, but I never put 2 and 2 together until the day I was cured, an immediate personality change, and I've witnessed that in others too.
tell us about the cure
Thanks Greg, Tony and John for a fantastic second round. Absolutely spellbound by your knowledge of those years gone by. Much appreciated guys.
Outstanding individual and excellent interview!!
Excellent discussion. Thank you Greg and John.
All respect to you Greg - a very special perspective.
I was only 9 years old in 1976 but youth group of 1976 was so active those days in matebeleland I never see and know about zanu only ZAPU was more active I think ZAPU gave you hadtime in matebeleland I was young but I still remember everything like yesterday
Thank you so much for this interview.
Tatenda Tony and Greg I think I can say with little fear of contradiction that we should welcome Greg as a honorary Rhodesian. Thank you for what you did and indeed said in your interview. I too had tears and such heartache for what was.
Cheers to you both
I agree brother!! (Tony)
Really enjoyed that. Greg was articulate and great memory of important little moments. Thank you Greg.
Big picture outcome of that era, to quote the title of Mike Walsh's book, "Rhodesia's Death: Europe's Funeral". Greg is an inspiring story-teller. He and all the South Africans who were tasked to fly in and aid us during the bush war are, in my opinion, all honorary Rhodesians. They all have our love and appreciation and gratitude forever. Greg oozes the Rhodesian spirit of that time which is really the ethnic-European spirit (which is rather hibernating at this time in the West sadly just when it is needed most).
Amazing! thanks Greg and Tony! very special indeed 🙏 an excellent service to military history and education! Great interview Tony 🤜🤛 appreciate!
The best talk I have listened to.
Legend soldier and story teller
Fantastic recollections, respect to all who served! 🍻
Thank you, salute
Thanks for an excellent interview Greg … more of your story needs to be heard!
I have very fond memories of the fabulous weekends spent on your family farm when we were at school together as young teenagers at Lowveld High. Keep well and thanks again, brother …
Thank you, Charles.
Furl that sail!
What an eloquent and humble man ....😎🥃
What an interesting bloke, great show, very enjoyable...
May the Lord bless and keep you.
Great
Listening to him in the previous interview he spoke of Rick van Daro he and I were room mates at Inf School 78 Rick came from East Londen also my home town also spent time at Malabahota there I Bumbt into 1 of my homeys from 1 of SA Para units
Great to hear that, Kevin. I lost touch with Ric for years. He's no settled in Canada and has been for some years now after an interesting career in the military
Thanks Greg and Tony for these 2 episodes ,really interesting.
two more coming from him! (Tony)
Excellent!! Greg, brings back memories!
Salute SAS fine men!
Thank you Greg 😊🎉
Thanks again Greg and Tony! Powerful stuff - yes, God has bigger plans for us! Keep up your great work - both of you!
Fantastic thank you
Top stuff -well done guys!
Excellent. Very smart guy.
Helicopter numbers. I remember an inteligence summary (we called it the gloom sheet) from early 78 i think saying we had 18 Allouette III. I believe that was before the Bell 205s were operational. 4 fireforces working across the country. When did the SA fireforces come? X, Y and Z? Was that mid 79? Rhodesia did so much with so little, with help of course from SA.
I got my statistics from Peter Petter-Bowyers book and I think (!) cant remember, also Prop Geledenhuyses Op Nickel. Big batches of choppers would arrive from SA for big ops.
I have an idea that late 77 or early 78 was the low point. ALSO I don't suppose Rhodesia govt wanted to openly acknowledge SA choppers presence at that stage. After the April 79 election SA involvement became very obvious. It was an extremely interesting time, and full of hope, only to be dashed by results of Lancaster House.
What a humble presentation and account of Greg’s experience
Salute Greg, respect, go well and best regards.
Superb interview 👍. Colcom bacon 🤤
P for PLenty is the formula that works every time!
Amazing interview much respect
Thanks chaps.
To help clarify!, Op Snoopy, the picture shown, referring to the Puma is in fact a Super Frelon.
Op Uric, the picture of a Puma overflying the base, with fuel tanker & tents, was infact the rear base, Oscar Alpha in chipinda pools, inside Rhodesia. The fwd base, Oscar Bravo was set up in a remote National park, in Mozambique, North of the Mapai/Barragem road/railway line. The 3 bridges Greg Referring to are in the south end of Gaza province , all bridges on the Limpopo River, been the responsibility of troops from 1 Recce & 5 Recce. The large bridge at Barragem was the responsibility of the SAS & that join took a good 6hrs or so, to place the charges, as alot had to be slung under the spans in nets.
Thanks for the ‘refreshing of the memory’, Colin. Some aspects are forgotten or are a bit hazy and so I do stand corrected.
"I put no trust in my bow, my sword does not bring me victory, You, Lord, give us victory over our enemies, You put our adversaries to shame."
- The words of King David, Book of Psalms 44:6 - 8 NIV
Greg honours GOD
GOD will honour Greg.
Thank you for posting.
Great interview!
An amazing interview.Vasbyt
Good narrative: 5th Bat by 1978 as a mature rifleman I would lead a patrol as stick leader(4) We were not Special forces but the guys were special .
want to be interviewed?
@@Toncor12 Hi Tony your mail bounced. Sent you a survey experience. I will think about it.
Another good video. Tony, you CAN get decent bacon in the UK, but you need to buy stuff that's dry-cured, not wet-cured. That written, the best bacon is the stuff that's home made - one of my boys has some pigs this year and we are already anticipating the meals to come... 🙂
thanks for the tip will look for it!
Well done gents, a great interview - very interesting.
In defence of British bacon......if you buy dry cured it wont shrink to half its size, I wonder how Rhodesian bacon was cured? If anyone knows it would be interesting to find out!
Very articulate
😅Mozzies!, yep!, to this day hearing that sound drives me crazy!!
😅
Two good talks
The best lunch bar in the green packaging .
😅OK, some orientation needed here! The map indication is Wrong!, it's 300K north of that, in the Manica province, basically Op Snoppy was Chimoio 2. Despatch was from Grand Reef, outside Umtali. The only despatch from Buffalo Range, works be to move the Recce contingent upto grand Reef.
Btw, crappy weather and rather hazzy, hunter got the wrong hill and Straffed a SAS c/s, killing one guy 😢.
My bad, sorry Colin
Great story, told so well. Thank you for serving Rhodesia. God bless you and your family.
Pity South Africa did not support us more. Hannes told us that Samora Machel by 1979 was ready to kick ZANLA out. Message got to Walls, and there it died? Dunno?
R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!
I was in the SA Army but I was at university in Cape Town with lots of Rhodies. I ran a student pub so I met lots of them ☺.
I think what you say about the connection between Rhodie civilians and soldiers is true. The Rhodie girls were very supportive of the Rhodie ex soldiers. The SA girls and civilians didn't support SA soldiers the same way.
I think this is because the Rhodie war was right in amongst the civilians while SAs Angolan war was some abstract place called the border about 2500km away.
The Rhodie war was survival for everyone. The SA war wasn't.
Still managed te get a root 😅😅😅
SA girls were fairly unfaithful and guys tapped into this. Caused many late reaction divorces over the years.
Thanks again Greg, Tony and John for a wonderful interview.
In the, dare I say tradition of FMOR, Greg has openly professed his Christian beliefs as have others before him. Well done..
Amen
The Colcom bacon is still good and Lobels are still doing bread and biscuits
You just brought back a memory of Colcom's radio advert in Pork Talk; I can remember the line 'Good food, good pork'...
Slight correction!, T54/55, not 76
Correct again, Colin
@colinriddell9553 Thank you for the correction, Colin. Exactly.
Great chat guys, thanks. The importance of taking the war into enemy territory eas so important. Nostalia lies in the following recent whatsapp post going around that I copied and pasted for all Rhodesians who did not see it.
Back
You are a Rhodesian when.....
You eat cuts of meat today that were ration meat in the old days.
You have given up looking for a good meat pie.
You had a servant called Sixpence.
You miss the smell of red stoep polish.
You bore or frighten your children with harrowing tales of your deprived upbringing in the days when TV started at 17H00 and kids were expected to ride push bikes to school..
.You still butter bread by holding the slice in your hand...
You wish you'd had the presence of mind to keep mum's morris minor
You ate supper in Vila da Manhica, the Vila Perry, Maxies or Guido's on occasions.
You can remember the beer adverts on the tin trays the hotel waiters used..
.You can remember thinking that Bengal Juice was OK.
You still believe it's wrong to use bad language in mixed company
You still think of traffic lights as robots
You know the words to more than two ABBA songs
You HATE washing your car and mowing your lawn.
Ironing is still something other people do
You still find it hard to throw things away when they could be fixed
You went to a school that taught real subjects like grammar and history
You went to a school where instead of being "counselled", unruly students were beaten - and it worked!
You complained to your father that you were disciplined at school - only to find he thought it was a good idea.
You used to call your parents' friends "Uncle" and "Aunty"
You have driven on a strip road
You long for that soft morning glow that brightens the Mashonaland sky between 6am and 8am.
Really miss a great, fantastic, bed rattling, window shaking, earth tremoring, all-kids-and-animals-in-the-parents'-bed tropical storm.
You parked your car in a car park and couldn't find it again, because it was a blue Renault 4.
Someone stole your car and returned it. the next day, because it was a Renault 4 and they felt sorry for you (hell they were too embarrassed to be seen driving it)!
You remember watching the brown grass turn green after a day's rain.
Arguing that Castle was for men Lion was for kids, and pommies
You put green stripes on your R4 so that you could find it in that car park!!!
You found a hundred R4s with green stripes on them !!
You still wonder what this thing polystyrene is, you know of kaylite.
You still refer to Koki pens as Neo's.
Muuush is still common in your vocabulary, as is 'lekker'.
You still have Wrex Tarr's "Chilapalapa" LP's and know the words to "Cockie Lobbin".
You hear crickets in July and remember the December Christmas beetles.
You know or still write to someone from PE, Saints, Churchill, Allan Wilson, EllisRobins, Falcon College, Plumtree, Eveline High, Townsend School,Chaplin, Sinoia, Plummers, Guinea Fowl, MGHS or Gwebi Agricultural College.
You drank Tanganda tea or Preema Coffee (or Daybreak).
You shopped at Truworth's, Edgar's, Meikle's or Kingston's, Greater man's or Haddon and Sly.
You had an avocado, mango, guava and pawpaw tree in your garden and went bike riding to friends houses to pick mulberry leaves for your silkworms.
You played in a sand pit and on a jungle gym.
You thought bilharzia was an incurable disease but still swam in the rivers, dams anyway.
You remember jacaranda trees in full bloom on North Ave.
You remember when a Coke or ice-lolly cost a tickie.
You miss the taste of bream fried on the side of the dam five minutes after you caught it.
You have at least one ivory, soapstone or wooden carving.
You still remember the taste of gem squash and melted butter, mealies and Mazoe Orange Juice.
You think there is no green surpassing that of the Sandawana emeralds.
You still expect to see a chongololo after an afternoon rain and a few flying ants.
You still believe your A-levels were harder than most first-year University courses today
.You still refer to an expert as a "fundi".
You still say "braai" instead of "barbecue" or "kopje" instead of "hill".
The following names mean something to you: "Sandro's", "Arkies", "Club Tomorrow", The Carlton Club, The Stork Club, Bretts and La Boheme
You collected coke cans on your trips to South Africa 'cos they were so cool.
You still can't get your head around the idea of throwing away a glass coke or beer bottle, instead of taking it back for the deposit.
You remember the days when you got change from your bus-fare, and used it to buy sweets at the tuck shop.
You've ever sat at Castle Corner in the cricket grounds - and can't remember who won the cricket match.
You bought a Cricket Union T-shirt from a girl vending them around the cricket grounds - and tried to get her to sell you the one she was wearing.
You were there when the 'chicken farmer' beat England - who could forget "Eddo".
You think the "all Blacks" are the Zimbabwe Tennis Team.
You were a member of Hellenics / Callies / Raylton / Alex / Postals /Old Miltonians / Mac Club / B.A.C. / Queens / or Raylton.
You've ever been boating on Lake Mac - before the hyacinth.
You've ever driven up to Montclair in Inyanga for an evening's gambling and been back at work the next day.
You still think the most haunting sound in the world is the cry of the fish eagle.
You've never carried your own golf clubs, and think that golf carts are a sign of weakness.
You've spent an hour looking for a lost golf ball at the 'police' course or Salisbury South - on the fairway!
You thought that an evening at Reps was the height of culture.
Good beer comes in brown bottles.
You know at least one person who has 'streaked' at the Salisbury Cricket Grounds.
You remember sitting for hours in petrol queues - and not getting any.
You ever got fifteen people into a VW Kombi - long enough to get past the gates at the 'drive-in'.
You made out in the back of a car at the 'Nitestar' , the Sky View or the Mabelreign Drive-in.
You thought the Borrowdale Road was a motorway.
You remember with nostalgia the days when the Zim Dollar was trading at eleven to one against the greenback.
Those were the days my friends !
Never heard a prayer in all the years 1970-1980.
Couldnt agree more (served from 76-80)
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@@fraseredk7433 Help yourself, then god will help you. The gooks probably prayed also....
@@fraseredk7433 I think what he is saying is that Christianity was not on display or in use by most men. In most armies padres prayed for men in groups before battle. Not really heard of in Rhodesia.
@@Toncor12 that is right
My dad fought as a tank driver in North Africa and through Italy. He was not proud of his service. His comment was that I must not believe anything about that war.
I have since concluded that it was just another Bankster's war where brother Saxon was set against brother Saxon; much like what is happening in the Ukraine now, where it is brother Slav against brother Slav. For what? Oil.
Read Our Oera Linda Saxons.
We must set ourselves free of the Daemons of Abrahamism.
I refer you to psychologist Jerry Marzinsky.
Ethnicity is what we are. We should never fight each other…. But that is why the West is failing. Unless some political Messiah saves the West , it’s all over. My time left is limited, and maybe fortunately I will not witness the downfall.
You don’t need a psychologist , you need Christ….
@@barneymagee3285 Agreed, reason why Muslims most go home. Christian country.
Fran Tan not allowed to use Napalm😄
Frantan was just locally produced Napalm.
All for nothing