Searching the records for my Great great grandfather from Indiana, it appears his unit participated in both Gettysburg and Sherman’s March to the Sea and survived unscathed.
I admit to being an historian of southwestern Pennsylvania ('Fayette/Westmoreland Forgotten History'), yet, I am still hoping to hear a proper piece of monologue beyond a southern expert; some shared narrative from the Union perspective as well as at least a brief acknowledgement referring to the northern generals and their main officers in charge of this great historic battle.
Chamberlain gets all the credit, while David Ireland up on Culp's Hill faced 4 times the Confederates and held the ground. Where is the novel based on his glory?
One of the best union civil engineers created the defensive positions on Culp's Hill. John W. Geary genius is why they repelled so many confederates. As expected. While Chamberlain quick thinking saved that flank from collapsing. Twice. By stretching his line making it one man deep. To the historic charge. Little Round top was SO CLOSE to breaking.
1. David Ireland died during the war. 2. He didn't get the chance to write about his experiences in the war or on Culp's Hill. 3. Shaara, Burns and Maxwell didn't have a man-crush on him. Steve Stringer is right, though. The story is all yours.
Well David Ireland also had log fences that his men had spent the previous night and the whole of the second day preparing. It's hardly surprising that they held off the Confederate attack. In fact, the only place where they made any advance at all was where the union units were absent because they had been sent to reinforce the the left flank.
The average Southerner had more in common with slaves than slave holders. The vast majority of Southern soldiers (like my anchestors) fought for one reason, the North had invaded their homes.
General Lee gave me the chills at 1:35 I can understand why his army was decisive regardless of always being outnumbered listen to this “Man”When you attack hold nothing back committ yourself totally”Lee was a true General he make me want to attack lol an that’s a portrayed Lee imagine the real Lee smh he saying bring every single piece of breath an strength you have leave everything on the field I Want It To End 👏🏼Lord have Mercy you taking about encouragement
What is not shown is the dismemberment of the dead and dying. The size of bullets floored me when I saw them and the musket balls. Wounds caused buy these must have been horrendous! Canister was not something you can see coming and possibly dodge. Unbelievable fortune of those who did survive and then survived civilian life.
No need, use your imagination. Hint: A soldier wrote of a group of Confederates approaching his cannon loaded with double cannister. "When we fired, [they] disappeared in a pink mist; there was nothing of them left." Personally I don't need to see that.
In their defense it was a low budget made for TV movie to capture the real thing would cost way more money and it would be rated R. They did a good job with the field hospital scene they had buckets or limbs and everything.
Der Volksfreund "OK" was a Union slang term referring to Van Buren, who was a staunch abolitionist and advertised "OK" as a slogan in his presidential campaign. He was from Old Kinderhook, Massachusetts and took the town's name as an affirmation. Northerners were better educated and used much less jargon or slang, but this would have been plausible, especially as "OK" had more anti confederacy meaning back then.
Sometimes even actors forget words may not have historic accuracy. Besides Mainers’ accents are different than Massachusetts. Jeff Daniels did mess up one line. When he’s taking to Buster Kilrain about African Americans. He say, those that I knew in Bangor, Portland. His home town of Brewer was just across the river from Bangor and was in the city frequently. The correct pronouncement is Ban-gor. Yet Daniels of Michigan said Ban-ger.
RPenta And why didn't the confederacy give a fig about that? I always wondered why they were so cold-blooded and cruel, willing to go to war, but not help by ending it before it ripped the South and her people to shreds. They should have surrendered after Gettysburg and Vicksburg with honor. But they didn't care about the Southerners, only about being in control of the South.
I've said this before. Certainly the Southern people suffered horribly both during and after the war, but in one sense they got off light. They didn't suffer the slaughter or political persecution that've been the sequilae of most civil wars both before and especially after the loss. Consider the millions who died in Russia, Spain and China; the South had one person hanged and within 10 years many of the rebel leaders were back in the US Congress and Senate, and all were free to write their memoirs and histories, even the former president.
@@nora22000 I won't fault them for fighting into 1864, but I do fault them for fighting after the fall of Atlanta and especially after Lincoln's reelection when they had to have know they couldn't win. South Carolina for one and 10,000 CSA soldiers would've been spared, not to mention the USA soldiers who died in the final 5 months of the war.
@@indy_go_blue6048 the final months were brutal and savage. The Confederate that were left would never have surrendered had Gen. Lee not taken it upon himself. I too think that the end was obvious long before 4/9/1865
@Gustavflyer Burns was asked at at a Press Club speech years ago were there any villeins in the Civil War-he said "George McClellan"; McClellan had many questionable moments but Burns was very dishonest in not at least mentioning Sherman.
After Columbia, SC burned, a group of Southern women was castigating him the Yankees for starting the fire. Sherman turned to them and said, "your fathers, husbands and sons started the fire when they opened on Ft. Sumpter. The flames have just caught up with you."
Ted Turner does a cameo as Patton's grandfather- watch for him just after they cross the fence, he lifts his sword and shouts "let's go men!" then is shot.
As each day passes we lose good human beings. Shelby will be sorely missed:((but remembered :)))
Searching the records for my Great great grandfather from Indiana, it appears his unit participated in both Gettysburg and Sherman’s March to the Sea and survived unscathed.
He had to have been with either Hooker or O. O. Howard and transferred west after Gettysburg.
@@indy_go_blue6048 you are exactly right
god bless Shelby Foote......
I have yet to see Burns' documentary. But as a Civil War buff, this film and Glory are my favorite.
I wonder how many of those reenactors actually got stabbed or clubbed in the hand to hand combat scenes.
“The most savage fighting I’ve seen is between brothers” damn that gave me chills
I admit to being an historian of southwestern Pennsylvania ('Fayette/Westmoreland Forgotten History'), yet, I am still hoping to hear a proper piece of monologue beyond a southern expert; some shared narrative from the Union perspective as well as at least a brief acknowledgement referring to the northern generals and their main officers in charge of this great historic battle.
There were many great union generals with the AOP... Buford, Reynolds, Hancock, Meade and so many more.
Chamberlain gets all the credit, while David Ireland up on Culp's Hill faced 4 times the Confederates and held the ground. Where is the novel based on his glory?
One of the best union civil engineers created the defensive positions on Culp's Hill. John W. Geary genius is why they repelled so many confederates. As expected. While Chamberlain quick thinking saved that flank from collapsing. Twice. By stretching his line making it one man deep. To the historic charge.
Little Round top was SO CLOSE to breaking.
The novel is yours for the writing.
1. David Ireland died during the war.
2. He didn't get the chance to write about his experiences in the war or on Culp's Hill.
3. Shaara, Burns and Maxwell didn't have a man-crush on him.
Steve Stringer is right, though. The story is all yours.
Well David Ireland also had log fences that his men had spent the previous night and the whole of the second day preparing. It's hardly surprising that they held off the Confederate attack. In fact, the only place where they made any advance at all was where the union units were absent because they had been sent to reinforce the the left flank.
The average Southerner had more in common with slaves than slave holders. The vast majority of Southern soldiers (like my anchestors) fought for one reason, the North had invaded their homes.
+Stephen Coleman
And their homes were owned by slave holders who told them to fight for slavery.
Did the artillery target some lone hill and shoot it up, or were they blanks?
They just powdered it no shot be too much of a liability.
General Lee gave me the chills at 1:35 I can understand why his army was decisive regardless of always being outnumbered listen to this “Man”When you attack hold nothing back committ yourself totally”Lee was a true General he make me want to attack lol an that’s a portrayed Lee imagine the real Lee smh he saying bring every single piece of breath an strength you have leave everything on the field I Want It To End 👏🏼Lord have Mercy you taking about encouragement
Ken Burns bothers me to no end.
Why is that?
@@ox3996 I don't know he is just so odd
I like his films, but I don't care for his interviews either.
What is not shown is the dismemberment of the dead and dying. The size of bullets floored me when I saw them and the musket balls. Wounds caused buy these must have been horrendous! Canister was not something you can see coming and possibly dodge. Unbelievable fortune of those who did survive and then survived civilian life.
No need, use your imagination. Hint: A soldier wrote of a group of Confederates approaching his cannon loaded with double cannister. "When we fired, [they] disappeared in a pink mist; there was nothing of them left." Personally I don't need to see that.
In their defense it was a low budget made for TV movie to capture the real thing would cost way more money and it would be rated R. They did a good job with the field hospital scene they had buckets or limbs and everything.
At 5:02 Chaberlain sais "Ok". Was this word "Ok" even in use back during the 1860s?
Der Volksfreund "OK" was a Union slang term referring to Van Buren, who was a staunch abolitionist and advertised "OK" as a slogan in his presidential campaign. He was from Old Kinderhook, Massachusetts and took the town's name as an affirmation. Northerners were better educated and used much less jargon or slang, but this would have been plausible, especially as "OK" had more anti confederacy meaning back then.
Sometimes even actors forget words may not have historic accuracy. Besides Mainers’ accents are different than Massachusetts. Jeff Daniels did mess up one line. When he’s taking to Buster Kilrain about African Americans. He say, those that I knew in Bangor, Portland. His home town of Brewer was just across the river from Bangor and was in the city frequently. The correct pronouncement is Ban-gor. Yet Daniels of Michigan said Ban-ger.
And what were the dispossed supposed to eat and drink and where did they live pending the "rebuiliding" of the South?
RPenta And why didn't the confederacy give a fig about that? I always wondered why they were so cold-blooded and cruel, willing to go to war, but not help by ending it before it ripped the South and her people to shreds. They should have surrendered after Gettysburg and Vicksburg with honor. But they didn't care about the Southerners, only about being in control of the South.
I've said this before. Certainly the Southern people suffered horribly both during and after the war, but in one sense they got off light. They didn't suffer the slaughter or political persecution that've been the sequilae of most civil wars both before and especially after the loss. Consider the millions who died in Russia, Spain and China; the South had one person hanged and within 10 years many of the rebel leaders were back in the US Congress and Senate, and all were free to write their memoirs and histories, even the former president.
@@nora22000 I won't fault them for fighting into 1864, but I do fault them for fighting after the fall of Atlanta and especially after Lincoln's reelection when they had to have know they couldn't win. South Carolina for one and 10,000 CSA soldiers would've been spared, not to mention the USA soldiers who died in the final 5 months of the war.
@@indy_go_blue6048 the final months were brutal and savage. The Confederate that were left would never have surrendered had Gen. Lee not taken it upon himself. I too think that the end was obvious long before 4/9/1865
@Gustavflyer Burns was asked at at a Press Club speech years ago were there any villeins in the Civil War-he said "George McClellan"; McClellan had many questionable moments but Burns was very dishonest in not at least mentioning Sherman.
After Columbia, SC burned, a group of Southern women was castigating him the Yankees for starting the fire. Sherman turned to them and said, "your fathers, husbands and sons started the fire when they opened on Ft. Sumpter. The flames have just caught up with you."
I have to wonder If George S. Patton would have been a General in the Civil War instead of the 2nd World war if the North would have won quicker.
Patton's ancestors fought for the confederacy.
Ted Turner does a cameo as Patton's grandfather- watch for him just after they cross the fence, he lifts his sword and shouts "let's go men!" then is shot.
Longstreet was ahead of his time, Lee was behind his time.
Will Boyd The confederate cause itself was behind the times. They were gifted, ferocious fighters but completely misguided.
I think that it was more of a matter of times changing so rapidly with the development of modern weopens.
I thought Sheen was miscast as Lee. Duvall in Gods and Generals more fit the role.
Duvall is actually a shirt tail relative of Lee, and a reenactor. At least 20 years ago anyways.
I like Duvall but Martin Sheen I could just feel the intensity like General Lee was standing right in front of me.
please dont be ignorant
ken burns looks like he's transitioning a la jenner
God I can't stand Burns