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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2020
  • The mighty late game mongols comp
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @TheHFChang
    @TheHFChang 3 роки тому +54

    A mangudai walks into a bar and tries to order a drink, but can’t because there is no counter

  • @scespinosab
    @scespinosab 3 роки тому +39

    The end is basically the power of Mangudai and mongol ferrari Siege Rams.

  • @daweed7412
    @daweed7412 3 роки тому +5

    20:00 "there's no way ill find another relic.
    -> walks right into one
    -> 20sec later viper snatches it without hera noticing

  • @rollup3275
    @rollup3275 3 роки тому +19

    “Can this woodline BE any worse”some chandler vibes here

  • @schocko13
    @schocko13 3 роки тому +33

    the intro again on point

    • @dhruvonium
      @dhruvonium 3 роки тому

      Lol, totally agree! Esp. the ones with Viper

  • @diosn6909
    @diosn6909 3 роки тому +8

    Amazing game! Also understood the importance of bracer that you mention in this and other videos of yours! Thank you for both the entertainment and instructive comments!

  • @tcsiyic3584
    @tcsiyic3584 3 роки тому +14

    Nice analysis of how Mongols should play against Slavs! I like how the top players are now more competitive, each players have their own game knowledge and methods, and not just one player having the best answer to everything.

  • @Triggy6825
    @Triggy6825 3 роки тому +25

    whats funny is I saw this match on vipers stream and he was soo confident during the start. Then slowly, he starts to go...uhh maybe I was overconfident HAHA

    • @emreagac4048
      @emreagac4048 3 роки тому

      Hahahaha

    • @majungasaurusaaaa
      @majungasaurusaaaa 3 роки тому

      He should know that he can't do anything once hera is boomed out with 40 elite mangudai. What's he gonna do with 4 relics? Siege Onager maybe.

  • @LordStaind
    @LordStaind 3 роки тому +3

    1:32 chat trolling Hera. Lol

  • @Ch3ckm4t3
    @Ch3ckm4t3 3 роки тому +40

    The intro should have stopped just before the fight resolves, with some editing it will add suspense.

    • @K1AoE
      @K1AoE 3 роки тому +39

      i've done the cliffhanger ending 2 times, i felt like people will rage if i do it again here 111

    • @aoe2and3fan
      @aoe2and3fan 3 роки тому +2

      No way, I'm very happy to know the result right away, instead of having to search when the fight happened to know the ending! :-D
      (I'm not a big fan of cliffhangers anyway).

    • @oscarferrernaval5745
      @oscarferrernaval5745 3 роки тому

      I was expecting the roundabout thing from Jojo's

    • @Spherac
      @Spherac 3 роки тому

      I mean you can see the red scout health-bar go down first every blow they trade.

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 3 роки тому

      @@K1AoE does UA-cam somehow know you edit hera's videos?

  •  3 роки тому +3

    Mangudai has no counter only when there are Mongol hussars to support. Only AI can stop fully upgraded Hussar+Elite Mangudai.

  • @Jompa10
    @Jompa10 2 роки тому +1

    What do you think about going archers/crossbow, tech into knights and then mangudai? Is it too slow of a transition?

  • @vproduction
    @vproduction 3 роки тому +2

    If u didn't know. If 2 units attack at same time the one with earlier color always win. Go by blue red green yellow teal purple grey orange. Even if health bar looks like ur winning.

  • @Jompa10
    @Jompa10 2 роки тому

    I can't believe how humble you are. "Viper is best, yes." I disagree, but this is why I follow you wherever you go and watch all your videos. You are the best Hera!

  • @AgeofNoob
    @AgeofNoob 3 роки тому

    LOL @ the Deer walking in at 0:24 to witness the fight :D

  • @The_MisTrO
    @The_MisTrO 3 роки тому +1

    Damn your intros are getting even more awesome

  • @ethanpappas2502
    @ethanpappas2502 3 роки тому +1

    the intros are why your channel is growing so fast

  • @cikif
    @cikif 2 місяці тому

    Mongoldai's are unstoppable

  • @TheAepread
    @TheAepread 3 роки тому +3

    How do you play this as Slavs if you somehow end up in this matchup in a big competition? Something like a big knight+siege all in push in early castle to stop Mongols reaching Mangudai?

    • @user-ky7jf7wi5y
      @user-ky7jf7wi5y 3 роки тому +4

      Curious as well. Possibly extended Feudal too, open MAA, go into 2 stable scouts, archers, towers. Slavs have fully upgraded scouts and supplies free.

    • @uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160
      @uduehdjztyfjrdjciv2160 3 роки тому

      All in in castle age obviously

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela 3 роки тому

      With or without laming? Without laming completely depends on their stones, if it's back stone like hera, that would be difficult.

  • @Adiounys
    @Adiounys 3 роки тому

    12:52 What about your golden rule of placing new TCs?!

  • @7teen7t79
    @7teen7t79 3 роки тому +2

    Viper and hera are 2 best aoe2 players 👑👑

  • @LokirofRoriksted
    @LokirofRoriksted 3 роки тому +3

    Mangudai shouldn't have a bonus against trebs. The only counter to it is by destroying their castles, but that is extremely difficult because they can just shoot the trebs once or twice and bail.

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 3 роки тому +4

      While you're not entirely wrong, I think that would be such a severe nerf to the Mongols that they might lose a ton of viability. Since getting to Mangudai is already superhard, and getting to Mangudai in a good position is even harder.

  • @MrBigBas
    @MrBigBas 3 роки тому +1

    Fun game to watch. How ever one thing is not clear for me, why didn't his apponent started building pikemen? Pikemen would literally counter his full mongol horse army?

    • @kira0703
      @kira0703 2 роки тому +1

      he said that its hard to catch horse he would micro manager and kill it one by one, he said skirmish is only option like gunpowder units

  • @suatsonmezoglu1225
    @suatsonmezoglu1225 3 роки тому +1

    can u show ur ping and fps for youtube for once i realy curious about it

  • @bigchum3984
    @bigchum3984 3 роки тому +3

    why dont pros ever use auto farm seed???

    • @HeraAgeofEmpires2
      @HeraAgeofEmpires2  3 роки тому +11

      we do, just only in late game. If you put it on too early it saps ur wood when u dont realize it and messes up ur prioritization

    • @AliceLiddell_Blacksouls
      @AliceLiddell_Blacksouls 3 роки тому

      @@IHateYTIdentifiers Nice try

  • @Zebrastreifen77
    @Zebrastreifen77 3 роки тому +1

    Since Blue is player 1 his scout was placed first in map creation. In these sitatioon the unit created first wins so you know before hand that blue would survive.

  • @agentlibre5803
    @agentlibre5803 3 роки тому +2

    Why don't you use the castle or monks for healing? You let your troops patrol in the camp instead of getting extra resources by healing them! GG, btw

  • @user-ky7jf7wi5y
    @user-ky7jf7wi5y 3 роки тому +1

    I struggle Arena Slavs vs Mongols. What options do I have?

    • @user-ky7jf7wi5y
      @user-ky7jf7wi5y 3 роки тому

      They often go a castle build, so castle age aggro is futile. Also rams on the wall get cleared by a 1-2 mangudai.

  • @lbridet
    @lbridet 3 роки тому +2

    10 is halfway between 1 and 100 on a log scale. You're just smarter than your viewers.

  • @schwetang
    @schwetang 9 місяців тому

    The Mangudai is a great unit but they take Anti-archer and Anti-cavalry damage. They're especially weak against Italian Crossbowmen.

  • @Deneblikethestar
    @Deneblikethestar 3 роки тому +1

    #raiseforK1

  • @janpiet1530
    @janpiet1530 3 роки тому +1

    Did I hear correctly? No bracer civs have no answer to mangu?

    • @UnfamiliarPlace
      @UnfamiliarPlace 3 роки тому +4

      It may sound dumb, but spam is always a possible answer. Slavs have weak skirms, but decent hussars and strong halbs (w/ druzhina). Mangudai need micro to stay alive and attenton is finite. Can't avoid the big hits forever. Just keep throwing hussars and skirms while sneaking in halbs, which would also have minimized Hera's hussars better. Hera has a way of making it look like he's mainly using mangudai, but in these late-game ones the real strat is spam. He has 60 farmers at the end, constant hussars...

  • @powerobsession734
    @powerobsession734 3 роки тому +1

    you should get a mic closer to your keyboard and mouse so we could hear the clickety-click more
    It's like listening to the gods create the universe

  • @SantiagoLopez-uu6uk
    @SantiagoLopez-uu6uk 2 роки тому

    Call William Wallace pls

  • @merin8263
    @merin8263 3 роки тому +1

    love the intro's

  • @skogenhevner5677
    @skogenhevner5677 3 роки тому

    Sick game

  • @theotherfaceof
    @theotherfaceof 3 роки тому +1

    When Mangudai Have No Counter= game is trash

  • @assassinhamza1238
    @assassinhamza1238 3 роки тому

    man that intro lol

  • @alian6965
    @alian6965 3 роки тому

    Nice vid

  • @jakegingrich7214
    @jakegingrich7214 3 роки тому

    Yes, that was a nice game.

  • @guitarplayer1994
    @guitarplayer1994 3 роки тому +1

    Why is there a canon in his TC?

    • @xtakk
      @xtakk 3 роки тому

      DE thing, you can get bling to display on your tc through events

  • @Harshverma-gi7es
    @Harshverma-gi7es 3 роки тому

    What is subs?

  • @raimundohott9716
    @raimundohott9716 3 роки тому

    Berbers go brrrrr

  • @p47_thunderbolt39
    @p47_thunderbolt39 3 роки тому

    The big reason he lost is both his stones were forward

    • @hj.rahmawati4921
      @hj.rahmawati4921 3 роки тому

      That doesnt make any sense
      Because viper is slavs

    • @hj.rahmawati4921
      @hj.rahmawati4921 3 роки тому

      You dont make uu as slavs

    • @p47_thunderbolt39
      @p47_thunderbolt39 3 роки тому

      @@hj.rahmawati4921 I’m talking about in the king of the desert vs yo. Viper had two forward stones as mongols and so he lost. It was even still a close game he just couldn’t make mangudai

  • @Turalcar
    @Turalcar 3 роки тому

    11 subs would've been perfect for aoe2

  • @SM-bb4hx
    @SM-bb4hx 3 роки тому +1

    About the scout battle in intro -
    If both the scouts start attacking at the same time,lower seed player will always win over higher seed player. Not sure who was blue and red in round 1 but in round 2 blue player won as he is player 1.

  • @plohish1337
    @plohish1337 3 роки тому +1

    why don't just focus on knights and pals ? don't they counter mangudai ? hussars are a bad bet

  • @betwixtX
    @betwixtX 3 роки тому +2

    skirms counter mangudai

    • @lbridet
      @lbridet 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah those excellent Slavs skirmishers without thumb ring or Imperial age blacksmith upgrades and no mobility. Top counter bro

    • @betwixtX
      @betwixtX 3 роки тому

      @@lbridet are they not cost effective vs mangudai?

    • @Euphorischeente
      @Euphorischeente 3 роки тому +3

      @@betwixtX Cost efficient yes but you need to mass them and skirms are getting rekt by light cav which is a good combo for mangudai. Especially when the skirms are missing the blacksmith upgrades it's hard to counter mangudai with them because with the upgrade they have at least more range then mangudai. And without thumbring it's even worse.

    • @betwixtX
      @betwixtX 3 роки тому

      @@Euphorischeente how about mass scorps?

    • @lbridet
      @lbridet 3 роки тому +1

      @@betwixtX in scenario editor, they are. In a 1v1, the mangudai will retreat from any fight they don't like. You need crazy skirm numbers to trade well vs mangudai and even then they will just move to a spot where you don't have 50 skirms.
      It's not like halb and siege, where the halb is a slow counter unit but the enemy has to engage you or get rekt by your siege. Skirmishers cannot push at all, Mongols player can just ignore them and send hussars to mop them up.

  • @rodrigoarias9832
    @rodrigoarias9832 3 роки тому +3

    dont complaing abou Taxes men, if u don live in Argentina!!! we realy know what it feels to pay taxes, we have the 2nd hiest rate in the hole world!

    • @crx122
      @crx122 3 роки тому

      You can come live in America, our taxes are much lower than most of the first world countries. Just make sure you NEVER get sick or hurt. We are firm believers in bankrupting people for that.

  • @brownkilla7967
    @brownkilla7967 3 роки тому

    halbs, catapult and throwing speaman def counter manguidai, they also dont cost anything while mangudai is expensive

  • @ethanpappas2502
    @ethanpappas2502 3 роки тому

    imagine mongols vs turks, no elit skirm...

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 3 роки тому +1

    You won this game but this is ladder Arabia, not KOTD Arabia. And you had the safest stone in the history of aoe2.

    • @HeraAgeofEmpires2
      @HeraAgeofEmpires2  3 роки тому +2

      yeah but i saw vipers game, his approach was wrong anyways, he could have easily secured the stone, both opened scouts

    • @hansoskar1911
      @hansoskar1911 3 роки тому +1

      @@HeraAgeofEmpires2 I think "easily" isnt it. But Im also a big proponent of playing to win. Mongols need to go Mangudai at some point, they might as well die trying. with similar levels of macro Mongols gonna lose the midgame knight/pike/Monk battles to Slavs every time.

    • @hansoskar1911
      @hansoskar1911 3 роки тому +1

      @UA-cam Commentator yeah, appeal to authority is not a good strategy, basically ever.

    • @hansoskar1911
      @hansoskar1911 3 роки тому +1

      @UA-cam Commentator that's a silly point and exactly the problem. my ability to click fast and accurately is in no way related to my ability understand and discuss the strategic aspects of the game which is the thing I talked about. at no point did I brag about my internet penis lenght (aka Elo) which is definetly lower than Heras; at least in aoe2.

  • @sakshamkumawat4189
    @sakshamkumawat4189 3 роки тому

    bruh 1st comment

  • @baloun65
    @baloun65 2 роки тому

    you make useless moves with your mouse - irritating as hell!