Ep.30 Advice on the fix list please. It's long... and getting longer...
Вставка
- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Email: Bumbler@thebumblingsailor.co.uk
MERCH!
bumbling-shop....
'SUPPORT ME' links;
Patreon: patreon.com/user?u=72355785
Ko-Fi: ko-fi.com/bumb...
GoFundMe: gofund.me/69fa...
Buy me a beer: www.buymeacoff...
Amazon wishlist: bit.ly/3uVm0kx
CashApp: £BumblingSailor
Hi Terry I would not paint the upper hull as it will give you a maintenance paint job for life, putting my surveyors hat on I would much rather find a boat with the original gel coat finish with one or two scratches and dings than wonder why they had painted it and what they covered over.
When the time comes beg borrow a good orbital polisher and get some cutting compound and go over the hull you will be surprised at what is removed and how the hull will clean up , when its all clean and dry and you polish it then wax it that's what will keep the finish.
However also concentrate on getting her seaworthy and anything to do with safety as a priority, stay safe have fun 🙂
If it was me I'd make a priority list, a what has to be done list and a what can wait list, then throw away the what can wait list, then with the priority list divide it into what has to be done on the hard and what can be done in the water, then do the stuff that has to be done on the hard.
I'm completely refitting a house boat and I keep getting lost/distracted on what I need to get done.
Great video, really good to see you're being positive about it all.
My advice is do only what you deem to be most important, everything will take longer and be more of a job than you think (I've just restored a similar boat) but it can be a very rewarding process and you'll have a sense of achievement after finishing. After doing my boat I kind of whished I'd just been out sailing it and not worrying about if it was perfect.
My opinion don't paint the hull people will assume it's been damaged you'd be amazed what a wet sand and polish will do to old gel coat.
Don't remove your sea toilet if you really feel that it's bad etiquette to use it in anchorages maybe think about a holding tank.
Sorry if all that sounds a bit of a downer just my opinion, think the videos are great keep up the good work!
Don't do the windows unless they leak - they are pigs and take ages. Clean, cut and polish topsides , don't paint unless you have lots more time and money. From experience (50 year old boat) its easy to dismantle stuff with enthusiasm which seems in short supply when reassembling. V sensible comments below about getting list prioritised to a minimum
Waffling ramblysaurus videos are some of my faves :)
Love your way with words
"So that was outside me, erm. Back to inside me, which is me now here.... in-*side*?"
A true orator ser
😂😂😂 What is language if not something to be played with!
I’m pretty good at adding things to the To Do List, myself! No matter what I get done, it keeps getting longer, and I’m 72 years old! 😂 All the best to you! 👍👍
Easy to hit a brick wall. some of the stuff on your list I suspect is unachievable. some of your stuff is critical. The mast is right up there. used, second hand. forget all lines back. thats next year. osmosis, if you must. polish the hull will make you smile. ridder, just seal it and paint. empty the boat. remove the toilet and use a bucket. ive hit more than a wall,and a break helps
It might seem like a hassle to move your boat after you’ve already had her lifted but clarks boat works do let you live on your boat whilst it is out and they are only 5 mins away from where you are now, they are also very reasonably priced. 😊
I had a look there, it was just a bit of a faff getting to work and getting help from the people I know. Its worked out at £270 a month here, and I'm totally not secretly living on my boat anyway 😂
@@BumblingSailor haha, mum’s the word! 😉
For Navs if you are just staying in local waters - rasberry pi and tablet system is more than enough.
As for the cockpit drains - Contessa is a popular club boat. Ask other owners how they resolved it.
Thank u for the osmosis lesson....very interesting...often wondered. Anyway love ur attitude its really good and lets face it you are discerning gentleman...as we all know CO26's in nice condition are very special boats indeed.... cant wait for the next installment. Bumbling Sailor? I dont think so...your clearly a very knowledgable fellow.....
Cut out the blisters on the hull, dry as much as you can then use acetone to wipe out the blister, epoxy, fair and then epoxy the whole hull. Seek advice from West Epoxy Systems (they are the best!). Cut back the topsides with an orbital buffer, you will be surprised just how effective that will be. Sort the engine and associated parts including anodes. You will feel much happier knowing that the hull is sound and the engine reliable. All else will follow when funds allow.
Prioritise! Make a list with your main priorities, things you NEED to do to be able to sail safely, then the rest can be done when you’re at anchor somewhere warm and sunny. Take care, my friend. Best regards from bonnie Scotland 🏴
👍👍👍
Not sure why you feel the need to remove the drive shaft, you can check the presence of the woodruff key just by removing the prop.....
Advice ..🤔.mmmm...🙄.yep got one ....If it ain't broke ,DON'T fix it !!! ( leave your mits off them windows ) 🤨
Your welcome 😏
A task list is the first step in making a schedule. Identify priority of tasks and links between tasks. You have the rest covered.
👍👍👍
At least you apologize for the waffling on/non-content. Most don't. I spent six months on the hard before launch of an antique boat. All good.. soon come The Bahamas bro!
I have a couple of ideas for you; I'm living on a 32' sailboat in Northern California. I recently purchased a 24v 86lbs thrust trolling motor for my dinghy and the amount of power it puts out got me thinking. What if I put 2 of these suckers on the back of the sailboat instead. Then the plan is to remove the original prop and shaft completely, plug that hole, and then use your well-tuned diesel engine as a backup electric generator. The benefits of removing the prop and shaft completely are numerous but the most obvious to me is maintenance. One of my biggest fears Solo Sailing is that I will run over a crab-pot line and tangle the prop. The only solution is usually to go over the side with a knife, which sounds bloody awful to me. With outboard electric motors, you'd simply pull the tangled motor out of the water and untangle it. Also, imagine never having to deal with an ancient gearbox, or the prop shaft coupling doohickey, or barnacle incrusted props... The motors I bought off of Amazon were $310 US, so 2 of those and some bigger batteries and some wires and whatnot I plan on getting this done for about $1300 US. My boat weighs 9.5k lbs, and yours weighs 5-6k I believe, so in my crazy imagination, this could all work quite well on your boat for not too much money... speaking of money, don't feel bad for asking for money. You are providing a valuable service for literally thousands of folks by documenting your experiences. Your content has VALUE. Don't forget that... also, I don't have any money, so I can't give you any, but I would if I could. Love your idea about the retractable pooper! Oh yeah! Your mast. It's got a wobbly bottom, right? I'd cut the bottom off, and then re-rig with Dynema... depends how cold it gets there. Dynema stretches when it's cold, so steal cables may be mandatory. Love your content, brother. Keep it up. Here is a video I made about the 24v 86lbs trolling motor: ua-cam.com/video/8OvjQDExyFg/v-deo.html
propulsion make a pod motor that I'm interested in. All things to consider! Thanks for your kind words!
@@BumblingSailor Pod Motor? Sounds expensive.
Just do the priority stuff. No furler. No windows. No nieuw mast. Just glass the toilet shut. Valves. Let the blisters dry. Shaft. Transom stronger. Rudder. And go
No paint. Maby just buff it a bit
👍👍
Good stuff. I'm literally, and figuratively in the same boat lol except I'm across the pond on the great lakes. You should think about crossing the north Atlantic when you are ready and spending a summer in the great lakes around Michigan.... it's beautiful. I might take off south towards the gulf of Mexico this fall, but the great lakes are amazing.
Great video and nice to hear you so positive,. First impressions - get those osmosis blisters ground out and washed ASAP. They take quite a lot of time to dry even given some decent weather. Most of the other stuff you can do while afloat in a berth.
You have a lot of work there, I would not touch the windows, as from experience these jobs always throw up others, or not go as planned. Good luck with it all.
Same thing happened to mine last year, galvanic corrosion on my keyway on my propshaft. The keyway sheared in half, 7 miles off Ilfracombe. Lost propulsion and had to sail into the outer harbour and drop anchor. Thought I had lost the prop, dried out against the wall and my prop spun around like yours. Cheap fix though which is a bonus 😂
For the love of god don’t bother painting the topsides. She’s an old girl with some character. Light sand and polish at the most. I wouldn’t do too much below the waterline. Get her tidied up and antifouled. Look at a haul out in the next couple of years for a shot last and resurfacing (when you’ve saved up a bit).
Do the electrics. Will save problems down the line and also you’ll know all the systems back to front which is helpful in the future. Obvs sort the prop. Don’t bother changing the deck drains. Just get them cleaned out. Clean and paint bilges while boat is empty. Sort mast as cheaply as possible. Don’t alter the forestay/rigging until you’ve sailed her a bit and know what you want and what you don’t want.
Only my thoughts. You’re doing a great job and I love the videos.
Thanks for the advice! I've just got to balance it all out now and come up with a plan 😂
Wowzers that's one big list, I'd go with sorting your hull out first and see how you get on, great video as always, keep em coming and keep positive 😊
No dont. she just needs a compound polish. ignore the scratches. a good polish with transform her in to a shiny new boat
Mate, You're getting so much better at talking to the camera, Much less Ummms and Arrrs. You're getting all the Vocab, starting to sound like a real sailor. Brilliant work!
Insurance.....how old is your standing rigging? They want it
Many boats of that vintage didn’t even have self draining cockpits, they simply drained slowly into the bilge, and emptied with a hand pump or electric. Just an option to consider...
Mine actually does that too 😂. Seems like a risk as she's a wet boat and easily pooped. We'll see what happens, thank you!
HI Again,
Ok we are still on the hard until Monday which is our scheduled launch. I have done so many jobs fixing this and sorting that. I think we are about ready but as you know, boats have another idea which goes entirely contradictory to what we have planned. I still have to repair the inflatable dingy I bought knowing it had a leak. I have to replace the spill rail on the engine as the nylon hoses keep splitting, Sort the running rigging *(got a helpful rigger doing his thing on that) Then I have to plan the passage, from the East Coast to the Solent. Should be interesting as I havent sailed since I was 13 years and that was a very long time ago. As I think you have found out, these floaty things keep sucking money like a hungry sucky thing.
On the toilet thing, someone on UA-cam told us what he does which is to get some incontinent bags with gel pads and dump them on the morning along with your usual crap. We have tried the idea and it works for us. Wish me luck, see you on the other side
Yeah, you need to come up with a priority list. MHO …. The hull is always priority one. All the things that cost little money. Scrape your bottom and sand to expose blisters, don’t grind out holes until it’s clear they are blisters and let it dry. Remove and rebuild if needed all thru hulls. They sell rebuild kits for most and most just need to be pulled apart and cleaned. That’s a labor of love once you price how much to replace them. 🙂 Sort your cockpit thru hull problem. Once you have the tools out for removing them, do them all. And of course, your stuffing box for the propeller shaft. That’s enough for now to concentrate fully on. Your inside projects, you might want to dibble and dabble them along with concentrating on the hull. Just my approach, from owning four boats in the past and years working in boatyards. Cheers.
Awesome, thanks! That sounds like the way to do it, but adding unstepping the mast whilst out. Cheers!
When the time comes, I documented building my compost head, simple, inexpensive and my wife even loved it.
First prioritize the type of sailing you will be doing?
The work around that.
If you are just doing local day sails - then you don't really need a stove and fridge. A cooler and 12v thermos will do.
As for the hull - I think you need to drill some holes and let her drain for a few days. Strip it down to primer. Patch and re-primer. Then paint away!
Chin up big yin you give me motivation to do my boat up
Cheers!
Get the best you can afford ..even if you have to save up ..As you said it is your home .. Safety first , Comfort second and aesthetics third .
Suggest look to get a new more efficient prop , small wind or sea turbine to boost energy production
Great, thanks!
I think you are on track everything you have said won't happen out of shear volume but you know that. Personally I wouldn't do the toilet change but that's personal choice. The osmosis is first priority but with all that I reckon it goes back to first principles which come down to Keep the water out and the rig up, the rest is all for your personal comfort.
Oh only thing I would say ''don't touch'' is the windows leave the bluddy things alone unless there is a problem.
Awesome, thank you!
Not sure of what area is available, but would toilet move to the fore cabin? Allowing the original toilet space into main living quarters.
Love your plan for storage in v cabin btw
Cheers!
If it isn’t too broken. Let it alone. The problem with composting toilets is they need time to work. You don’t have space for that. A porta potti is storable without complex slide mechanisms, emptyable at sea using no chemicals and at marinas, also marinas have loos. Used them for 15 years.
I used to have one in the camper van but hated it. Used to get crippling anxiety about having to go and empty it. Something about walking down the pontoons carrying it really puts me off 😂.
@@BumblingSailor Get a folding trolley.
Composting toilets aren't suitable for boats unless you have land to store the waste while it rots. Typically 6-8 months. There are many problems with inland boaters dumping bags of unrotted filth in the various litter bins etc.
I use total boat products I don’t know if you can get them over there. But if you ever have a problem or a question 24 hour tech line. I repaired my hull with all of their products.
I'll look into them, cheers! I've counted about 150 blisters on mine, so not quite as impressive as yours! 😂
We can do 150 blisters in a day after they dry. Some of yours do not look that deep you could fill with a good epoxy filler. We also redone our engine beds replaced the plywood with g10 board never have to worry about wet plywood. Good luck Terry.
Sounds like you're going to be busy.
Only thing i would say is dont get rid of the sea toilet, you will regret it! If need be, fit a small holding tank and a diverter valve.
I wouldn't paint the hull either, it only creats more maintenance for the future.
Did you know thst you can get fullers for hanked on sails from a german company called Bartels.
Pfeiffer Marine also do a cool sliding/removable bowsprit that runs on a 25mm T rail.
Cheers, I'll look into those!
Simon and Gemma on Sarinda use West system epoxy . They spoke to a guy from the company who was very helpful indeed. Might he be able to advise re the osmosis repairs.
Forgot inboard completely and get a bigger outboard on a good bracket? Loads of storage and easy access under cockpit? Good stuff mate
It's something I'm considering 👍
i've never been in a boat but this is what i might do; work out a budget for each job and work your pub hours to pay for each as you approach it, then you are more in control of whats happening.
so i might prioritize getting the mast tig welded and reinforced as the first job. if new steel rigging is expensive then try rope standing rigging. that is then your most immediate and largest problem solved.
next is to do all below water line; then empty boat and wash disinfect inside after sanding and oiling the interior woodwork. so now you can float you have a mast again and the interior makes you feel happy.
Now all the jobs are done first which keep you out of the water so the worry of a time limits gone. Its a lot of fun to organize work when you don't have to do it.
Toilet- get a thetford porta potti,will save a lot of time and money and has its own built in holding tank
If you change seacocks use tru-design
Rudder- strip the paint and give it a good coat of smiths clear penetrating epoxy sealer, repaint she'll be good for another 50 years
Mast and rigging- if you're going to update it remember those chainplates are also 50 years old,they need replacing(ask me how I know)
Stainless does corrode,it will be where you can't see it,where they pass through the deck,after 50 years it's inconceivable that water hasn't gotten in there,plus there's 50 years of work hardening to consider
Windows- leave them
Osmosis- never heard of a boat sinking from it
It's not just a home, it's a sailboat that needs to stand up to the harsh conditions of the oceans. You want100% confidence in her. Do not do anything halfass! Do not cut corners!
Stay on land and work as much as you can for the next year doing as much as you can yourself.
A very comprehensive refit is needed here, from stripping the hull to rewiring to new rigging and sails.
Or just send it and hope for the best. The stress of the latter choice will be far worse than a year of grueling work.
A quick woodruff key can be made yourself with a piece of brass, the pin from an ordinary three pin plug sometimes can be used but it has to be the correct size, it wont rust and is easily filed and cut,
Dont change through hulls for grp. DZR are perfectly adequate but make sure balls arent chrome plated. DZR also cheap as chips and more compact than Trudesign.
I'm not going grp, I'd replace with DZR or stainless 👍
Well my long distance brother it sounds like you're on the right track. She looks like a good solid boat. The hardest part is starting. Motivation to get set up and dressed up for the grinding of fiberglass fun fun but worth it in the long run. I personally can't stand grinding fiberglass I have done my fair share over the years. But once you start there's no turning back. Be safe good luck and happy grinding.
Mate, regarding the osmosis your boat has, yes do your best to get rid of as much of them as you can. Dig/grind out and then once cleaned and allowed to dry, epoxy fill and sand off. The entire bottom of your boat needs to be sanded back (as you noted) and once you have sorted that out and done all your epoxy repairs, you will need to paint it with tie coat (primer) before applying two coats of antifoul. Regarding the topsides of the boat (the hull above the waterline), again that too should be sanded back, any dings in it you can repair with epoxy and thereafter prime and topcoat paint..Essentially, unless one is getting the boat spray painted, the technique is roll and tip. Realistically it’s a two person job, one rolling/the other tipping off. Altex make a decent paints for this. Another alternative is International’s new paint system which apparently doesn’t require tipping off. The paints to use are International One up primer and then Toplac Plus. Its the approach I am planning with my boat.
Good luck with all your projects 👍
My ideal set-up would be 1,,furling headsail, 2, self tacking (Hanse boats have them) 3, proper self steering, 4, two mainsheets (one as a boom preventer)to either rear corner 5, A TOILET
Good job mate
Cheers 👍
Composting toilets require 4 things. 1. A place for the poo to go. 2. A separate place for the pee to go. 3. An electric fan to dry out the poo and coconut husks (or whatever medium you toss in with the poo). 4. A vent to get the smelly bacteria gas out and off the boat.
The vent and fan generally mean the toilet can’t be moved once it’s setup. Now, you can keep the toilet where it is. And build removable shelves. Or build it in the center (might be less rocky being in the center) and build a box to conceal it’s the crapper.
And, also, you really don’t want your composting toilet tipping over while you’re sliding it out. That is a horror no one should have to deal with.
Mine had 1) 5 gallon bucket. 2) a 2 1/2 gallon bucket fully plumbed from diverter. 3) a computer fan that drew .03amps 4) beautiful black peat moss that you could buy at any hardware or landscaping store.
@@KennyP88 Mid-ocean😳
I think your list is great! Just wanted to also up vote cleaning the bilges. Dirty bilges kill pumps. Dead pumps kill boats. So don't paint them with anything that could peel off either!
Hey Tery, great to hear you're putting together a plan. I like the idea of the composting toilet to slide out and gain the shelving space above. What about the opposite side where the sink is located? That's always struck me as a big waste of space as well that could use a simple redesign -- pull out sink could also work with a fold down spigot (regularly done to save space in recreational vehicles). I saw an interesting use of the V-berth recently where someone actually made a work bench top that fit into the cutout with a small vice mounted on it -- flip it upside down to stow away and have the flat V-berth back. Question ... if you are going to go through the trouble of both keeping and reinforcing the outboard motor mount, then why not get rid of the inboard? They are difficult to work on, an outboard can be removed and brought to a shop easily for repairs, you would gain a significant amount of usable storage under the cockpit, less through hulls to worry about, cheaper for replacement when the time comes. The biggest benefit would of course be that people are always looking for replacement inboard motors, and it might provide you with some of the money needed for the refit -- maybe part of the way to the new mast!
Hiya, I'm still weighing up my options with the inboard. I'd like to do exactly what you say for exactly the reasons you mention. However unlike Alan in wave rover, I have a stern deck. That means I can't access the steering or direction controls on the outboard when docking. Still thinking of a way to make it work 👍
@@BumblingSailor I had a transom hung outboard on my first keelboat, yes its great for all the reasons said already. HOWEVER all the time I had it I dreamed of inboard diesel. Because when you want to be home in port the weather is always against you pithing of the boat just stops the boat dead due to cavitation some marinas docks etc have narrow entrances which have a build up of chop that makes it difficult to maneuver. Another thing is a diesel engine can charge your batteries in no time at all etc etc. My next boat had inboard diesel (and roller furling :) much much better boat to cruise and live on. I would not ditch a half decent Diesel inboard and if its not half decent then I would replace it with another diesel motor. Cost for a second hand inboard is not that different to a reasonable second hand diesel motor only real saving is installation cost and work.
In the process of a complete rebuild of a Jaguar 27. You should see my list😂.
Best of luck and looking forward to your next video. Keep it up.
😂😂 Cheers!
I subscribe to a few sailing channels, but this is becoming my favourite
Thank you!
Hi mate. I'm in the process of refitting an international folkboat, so not dissimilar to what you're doing.
I would advise you to add to each item of your list the actual cost of it (including tools and mistakes). I do that and in my case it then gets self selecting, what can be done or not. Everything is more expensive and time consuming than planned for.
Good luck
Awesome advice, thank you!
after getting on 2 decades living onboard a steel 33' ..... just keep at it😂 It never ever ends, a boat is a verb, you do a boat, not have a boat. You'll never be finished. I reckon tenacity is more important than talent living on a boat. Dealing with your emotional response is pretty important imho, some days it's just too daunting, helps me to recognize that, still not nice feeling but knowing it's just your head getting grumpy helps, tomorrow will feel optimistic. just do something works for me, pick an easier task & actually finish something. Which takes forever, especially at the start - you think, know what, lets get a tupperware box & put all the bits n tools needed for X jobs & label & find somewhere to stow. An hour later.. start the little job. But next time X jobs are so much quicker. Been in many yards "no one ever leaves here.." Watch me!! Zoom in when it's all too daunting. Currently pondering the jobs list as the sun rises in a lovely anchorage in Portugal, better get on with it 😂😂. Enjoy your vids mate!! See you in an anchorage along the way!
Great advice, thank you! Hopefully see you out there!
With regard to your skin fittings. If you replace like for like & keep the same positions you will be saving yourself a lot of fibreglass work. If you move their position or change the sizes you will have to make good any old holes in hull. Cockpit drains have to have a working seacock & the noise problem is a something that you may need to get used to. Maybe a flexible rubber disc fitted to the outside of the cockpit drain might stop the noise as long as it doesn't restrict the flow.
See me bro, I'm on't,dole, and have a 22ft, snapdragon and am in a similar position to you. So, have a coffee on me and chill...I'm with you and following you, you inspire me...😅
Thats a long list lad, my suggestions topsides hull give it a good polish thats all, wash it well degrease it first then a coarse cutting paste ,then go finer then polish , much cheaper than painting , hire a proper polisher with compound discs not a supermarket special. Osmoses ,it depends on how big the blisters are and how deep they are , if you want to strip the whole hull underneath the waterline a proffessional would peel it in a couple of days with a planer but then it a lot of work to re epoxy all that surface and you,d need to wait until the hull was dry that could take six months to get the miosture content down . So i would get an experts advise before starting . To peel you,d have to take off all through hull fittings anyway , old seacocks and through hulls would need to be changed , if you really want to change the toilet ( i wouldn,t ) get a porta potty with a removable tank ,like in camper vans. Just a few ideas , think about everything before going to crazy , anyway good luck with the work lad.
Thank you!
You should get most of those jobs done in a week if you allow a 25 hour and a 8 Day week 😂. Liked the train view of the Class 47 at Weymouth Station and passing Poole Harbour and ending passing the Freightliner Terminal at Southampton.
Make a list check it twice and figure out what can you get started with on payday. :) Boat Renovation sucks but it will be fantastic for your views :)
Hi Terry sale racing will be good for you when you get the right weather saw you on ship happens nice one anyway sale racing will teach you a lot and make you fitter and give you more confidence the more you do the more you learn so all the best on the repairs from John from Rugby.
Cheers John 👍
Just shit over the side mate....then fill the sea pisser with ice and beer.
Brilliant videos mate im fully invested, keep going. Thats my best advice as I dont know anything helpful sorry!
😂😂😂 Excellent advice, I love it!
Camping crapper. 25L holding tank (about a weeks worth of No1, less with No2 but depends on yer diet!).
I used to have one in the van, but hated walking round with it to empty 😂
Re ,advice on fix list.....hide big list (demoralising) do job list every evening for following day,,,,and do big crossing out as achieved when on tea break,,much more satisfying
Awesome, thanks!
Am I right in thinking that your cockpit drain doubles as a bilge drain? Sounds like a strange setup.
We have a bilge pump with its own dedicated through hull on starboard rear quarter. We have a cockpit drain just below the deck grill for any rain/waves that get into cockpit.
The toilet situation is perfect as is just add a holding tank for when in peopled areas ( marina/anchorage)
No, the bilge is a few feet lower with a manual and an electric pump. The level of the cockpit floor is at or slightly below water level so needs some kind of check valve or seacock. I'll suss the best thing eventually 😂
Watertight is good. Water ingress is bad. The rest you can do at your leisure. Good luck with your endeavors.
great video's where are you now.
id love to meet up as ive just got my first sail boat.
Regards John
Your list seems pretty good. I would put the word out for second hand mast/boom. You might be surprised as to what's available.
That’s a big list of work 😮
Your osmosis will be long stabilised by now but cleaning the hull back smooth will indeed add speed through the water. However, be careful that you aren’t subconsciously prevaricating. I don’t want you to end up like me and be tied to a finger pontoon for three years whilst you find reasons not to follow your dreams knowing secretly that you never will set off. 😢. Go well sir.
Argh, Robin! I'll try my best not to mate.
Your day job is to chat to us like we have just dropped in for a cup of tea and a natter! Polished performances are available elsewhere on YT if we feel the need. We’re here to spend time with a mate. Thats all!❤
😂😂 Thanks Robin!
Its aint never gonna be a new boat !
Lash fibreglass over the osmossis grinds , fur it , sand it all over to a key .
Paint the lot with jotsun easy gloss . Antifoul . Get it back in ! Otherwise it will sit for 12 months .
Dont work to keep your boat on the hard
Sounds good, hoping for just a few months until I can afford the bits 👍
Don't use a long list of jobs that you tick off, it just gets really depressing. Instead use a system such as Kanban where you only work on a smaller number of jobs at a time. Make sure you keep all your done tasks visible for ages, don't have a clear out. What happens is that you see a small number of things that are ready to be done, a few jobs in progress, and a whole pile of stuff you have done. Contrast this with a traditional list where you see a massive list with the odd tick here and there.
Thanks!
I'm horrified by the list. It sounds like a typical project list that will turn a boat into a boat that sailed in, into a project boat that will soon be an abandoned project boat sitting on a marina hard with numerous unfinished jobs.
Of all the things on this 'wish list', which can be as long as your arm, there is no consideration as to how much time each project is going to take, and next to that in each breath, just how much money is being spent.
By way of a made up example, lets consider it will take one week of full time work and £1,000 to renew all the standing and running rigging of the rig because you have everything on hand to do the job.
1 week of time = 7 days. Because you don't have the money but have to earn it, paid work must come first. At 60 hours per week, lets assume you have one day per actual week left that you can work on the boat. That means this job will take you 7 working weeks to do, assuming every boat working day is weather fine to do the work. In reality, 50% of those possible working days will be 'weathered off' due to rain, high winds, both, and not withstanding this, you will need time to for yourself, family commitments, extra shifts at work. Just the reality of normal living.
The 7 boat working weeks, +50% has now become 10 working weeks, or two and half calendar months. 2.5 calendar months, just call it three, has now become 3 x £250 per month yard storage charges, another £750 on top of the original £1,000 and the job has now taken three times longer than expected - it was only a week, and now its almost three months.
After almost three months, something is going to be found to not be the right component or has got lost, and needing a replacement, ordering it, adds more delays which runs into another week or two of weather not being suitable, leading to further delays. Further delays increases the monthly yard storage fees and its now a four month project...originally estimated to take a week.
In the meantime, thinking that 'I'll just get on with some other jobs', what actually happens is you create all the above demands in time and money, in another area.
So for example, painting the top sides. The instructions on the tin say "Allow 12 hours between over coats." That means you can only apply one coat of paint per day. The job requires one coat of primer, two coats of under coat, and two coats of top coat. That is five days of painting, not including prep. Out of those five days, that's a month and a week by calendar time at one day boat working week, 50% of the days will be weathered off. So now it will be two calendar months to complete this painting task.
Did we mention the cost of the paint and painting materials to do this task ?
Because you've started this job while the rigging project was awaiting which is turning into a four month project, there is now another £1,000 to spent on paint and materials. And because your working for a living, you can't have all the things together until you've earned the money.
In the meantime, thinking that 'I'll just get on with some other jobs', what actually happens is you create all the above demands in time and money, in another area.
So now you decide to rip out the electrical panel and start on that.
But because you can't move forward on this because there is no money because of the other jobs being worked on, this becomes a shambles and another unfinished project.
In the meantime, thinking that 'I'll just get on with some other jobs', what actually happens is you create all the above demands in time and money, in another area.
You decided to make a start on the Engine beds. That's a longer term project and seems worthy and its mostly inside. But now that's created the demand for money to be spent on fibreglass and Epoxy resin. So this project can only go so far and while your working on this, no progress is being made on the rigging or the painting or the electrical stuff.
Now we move out of summer and into winter, and before you know it its 3 degrees C outside, unsuitable for painting, unsuitable for fibreglass, and four or five months are going to pass at £250 per month storage fee's towards the salvation of Spring with better weather, and everything feels like shit and its not going anywhere. It hasn't quite dawned on you that you've already got four months of work on the rigging, and two months if not three on the painting project, that's seven months of full spare time work, plus 7 x £250 per month storage costs, not withstanding the engine beds and the electrical stuff that are also in the background.
Its now March 2024....
Your shifts at work get cut because trade is less than expected, rising cost of living etc to blame, and before you know it you need to take on a second job somewhere else, and that involves more expense and more travel time. Shifts at the new work place are more variable and money to live on becomes more of an issue and your frustrations at the lack of progress on the boat build. in a way the frustrations are worse because you seem to have more time available but no money for resources needed to complete jobs so you can't actually move forward with anything. In the end you do find a regular job with quite good money, but to do that you need to live in your van because its not local, and now you've got the money coming in, but even less time available at the weekends to work on the boat.
The irony is that you have to live in the van because you can't afford to live anywhere because your paying out £250 per month for the boat yard fees.
Eventually you do gain ground financially, and look ahead to making progress on the boat. Except the van is due for its MoT, and it fails on needing welding on the sills, and an injector goes up the spout, and that's taken care of this initial windfall of financial progress. And your still paying £250 per month yard fees on the boat.
We have not even considered the Osmosis issue, the make over of the toilet, if the windows need attention, the prop shaft, the anti foul, the barrier coat under the anti foul, and whatever else was on your long list of things.
Its now 2025....
Long story short, you can see this boat sailed in and is now well on its way from having sailed in to becoming a project boat for sale that's sat in the yard for almost two years.
How do I know ? Been there done that.
It'll be in the water before the end of October and sailing before the end of November, weather permitting. It isn't going to be one of those dramas because I don't work that way. Plus friends are doing jobs on the boat whilst I'm working. You needn't worry. 👍
I'm 2yrs into a 5yr plan the buy a boat. I'm really confused as to what you bought such a small boat to circumnavigate the world? Did you get a full survey on the contessa. I leaning loads following your journey but I must admit some the the choices you have make baffle the f out of me. I wish you every success and I'll be watching and learning along with you. Bloke the know nothing set on a couch
😂😂 The contessa, although small, is pretty mighty. They're easy to handle and will survive things that would make some other larger boats shudder 😂. There's also the factor of cost, I only had enough to buy a broken one, I can earn money from UA-cam which is paying for the repairs (partly) and getting a lot of experience in the process. Plus I like messing with things and the romance of bringing a boat back from the brink and letting her stretch her legs again. It's all part of the experience I guess, even if I hate it sometimes 😂😂. Thanks for following along!
Yes , how long is a piece of string ?, about as long as your ever growing list !, start with the important things that need doing and just one job at a time ,you will find you will not have enough hours in the day to get all the jobs done especially with working as well you must be careful not to be burning the candle at both ends and end up getting no ware fast.
Perhaps divide the jobs up into stage's and do the next stage further along on your journey rather than be stuck in one place and getting overwhelmed with what you have to do😦.
Good idea empty the boat and declutter it as this clears and unclutters your mind also👍👍.
Good vlog the money you will spend you could have got a bigger and better boat sorry yacht 😁
I tell you sumat you talk a good a job😂
Only knobbling mate
Good luck with the project
Oh aye, it's doing it that'll be the problem 😂😂
R'reet Terry Popping boat pimples eh! Boats a bit owd for adolescent acne😀 That's a bugger about not being able to stay on the boat in the yard though. Good luck with that big list of repairs mate if anybody can do it you can.
Get a puppy.
Embracing the companionship of a puppy can significantly enhance your sailing experience, providing a comforting presence during your long and sometimes solitary sea voyages. The unwavering love and loyalty of a puppy can serve as a balm for the solitude, offering substantial benefits for your emotional and mental wellbeing.
Adding a puppy to your adventures can also provide a significant boost to your online presence. The universal appeal and relatability of puppies can create an immediate emotional connection with your audience, strengthening viewer engagement and contributing to the growth of your channel's following and revenue. A new puppy could even present unique sponsorship opportunities.
Imagine a playful pup christened "Total Boat" romping around the deck!
Integrating a puppy into your life on the sea can introduce a rewarding new dimension to your daily routine. The discipline required for training and caring for your puppy can transform the potential monotony of extended trips into a fulfilling and varied experience.
Moreover, a well-trained dog could prove to be more than just a companion-they can also be a helpful crew member. Dogs are capable of learning to perform tasks such as retrieving dropped items or alerting you to potential problems, such as unfamiliar noises or the scent of smoke. Their keen senses can be an invaluable resource on board.
Choosing a breed like the Portuguese Water Dog, which has been bred for a seafaring life, would be ideal. Not only are they robust swimmers and intelligent, but they also have a sociable nature that would complement the sailing life well.
Lastly, introducing a puppy into your life heralds the beginning of a unique partnership. Together, you'll share the thrill of discovering new shores and exploring uncharted horizons-a shared journey that will enrich your experiences and create lasting memories.
I work 15hrs a day and have zero space, it'd be lovely but irresponsible to do so 😔
Episode 28 7th July 08:30 You reckon you’re going to be on the hard for two months. Episode 30 21st July Plan: repair osmosis, paint hull or epoxy everything … what?, seacocks, though hulls, cockpit drains … good grief … no idea, prop shaft out, fix prop problem, remove/repair rudder, reinforce transom, empty boat, sand off the antifoul, remove toilet, rebuild so that you have shelves and sliding rails, rebuild front cabin, repaint cabin sole, fuel tank removal, clean fuel tank, , stuffing box, bilge pumps, paint, electrical panel … again, ‘redo’ electrics, MAST … good grief, new forestay with necessary deck reinforcements, roller reefing, no bow sprit … thank God, remove engine beds, windows … WHY?, ON THE HARD NO MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS 19:19 … so not two then, so now end of October, 60 hour weeks from now working … 5 x 12 hours so what 9am to 9pm? so no boat work, plus time spent making videos. Tery … you seriously need a reality check! Sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be riding a wave of support here not based on reality. Yep, I’m ready to be criticised but I’ll pop back again at the end of October and be prepared to apologise profusely. Or, better, congratulate you massively👍
Things change, it'll be what it'll be and take as long as it takes. A lot of the work can be done in the water and the list is the 'ideal' solution, what gets done gets done. Cheers for your concern though. 👍
@@BumblingSailor You’re welcome. As you were for the coffee I bought you, and the Amazon wish list item I bought you. Never say I don’t care 😊
You keep saying you are no good at this but I for one look forward to your videos so you must be doing something good 😊.
Don't be washing it down with acetone, it's like a plastic "anti-matter", keep it for cleaning brushes and don't let it near any plastic screens either or you'll be sorry,
I had the impression that you had not done much sailing yet you are talking about how poor roller furling is and the need for inner for stays. Sounds like you are being given a lot of advice from no doubt well meaning people but I wonder if they have done a lot of sailing or just passing on stuff that they have been told. Roller reefing may disturb the airflow over your foresail but given the choice of being able to reduce sail from the safety of your cop-pit or have to go on the fordeck of a small boat and change sail when the wind is picking up I know which one I would choose.
My rigging ideas have been discussed with my good friend Dave, he's an RYA yachtmaster instructors examiner with thousands of sea miles all over the world. I don't know if I didn't explain the plan properly on the video, but the inner stay would be removable and only used in heavy weather with the hank ons, or to go wing on wing under headsails alone, so I wouldn't have to fly a chute DDW. The furling genoa would be in use most of the time with the stay removed for tacking. It's the best of both worlds and a highly regarded setup. I've done practically zero sailing, but have been consuming information and getting to understand the physics and mechanics of it for years. A side of it that I love. 👍
Hi Terry thank for taking the time to reply. My intention in my earlier post was to try and help with your decision process. I can tell by listening to you talk about your boat that you have certainly done one hell of a lot of research into sailing. I did not realise that you were getting your advice from such an expert sailer and would agree that an inner forestay is a good idea. I was just trying to point out that if you are working to a tight budget I would go for a roller furling system first. It was the best money I spent on my 24 ft yacht some years ago. I also wanted to give a cautionary note that there a lot of armchair sailors out there that will give you lots of advice. Who know I might even fit into that category these day! I wish you well in you adventure and look forward to seeing how you get on.
I wish you all the best in your adventure.
Make a list Terry for the outside of the boat of jobs to do first with the hull top of the list get that done you are in the water and the through hole you dont want (toilet) then your deck cockpit bow make another list for inside of the various section inside engine nav station berths galley electrics toilet front berth/storeroom aft berths if you have them plumbing if windows dont leak why give yourself more work but make the list as what you want to do first remembering to cross as you do them
Ignorant question incoming (sorry). If you are living on the boat full time how do you heat it in winter?
If I'm in the marina, with a small electric heater. If away, then with a diesel heater (to be fitted 😂)
Bro, keep a bed space for potentially future crew member you haven't met yet....
What pub you working in mate?
Hello matey are you back in portland?
Good luck !!! 😅😅 maybe just sell that boat, save $ then buy a less problematic boat ?
😀👍
Prioritize
Boat-zits.
Hi mate,I’ve been a boat builder/repairer for 18 years if you need any help or advice feel free to drop me a message.
Thank you, I'm onto my next boat now though, this project was too much whilst unable to live aboard 😔
@@BumblingSailor more than welcome mate,the offer still stands
🤠👍
mate, id like to apologise . twas a dick move . your vids are great
Get rid.. you should be sailing.
Then what would I sail in 🤔
I would like to say that anything I suggest is 100% correct, that being said, I know nothing. I wish I had extra cash, I would just throw money at your project. Good to see you!