Civic Type R EP3 K20 vs K24 - Nordschleife touristenfahren BTG 8.39
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2019
- Me and my friend had a little touge style battle. Sry for messed up camera position.
Onboard from my friends red EP3: • Honda Attack's Nürburg... - Авто та транспорт
My previous car was a EP1 Civic. Absolutely nothing special with its 1.4 engine, but seeing this video reminds me how much of a breeze that gearbox was. The position of the shifter is just genius, and so easy to get into gear.
True. it gets weird looks many times. But position is great.
@Back In The Day 2 Pretty sure the Honda FRV had it too in 2008, but that was probably the last one.
The rally style shifter position on the ep3 and the hatchback form factor is truly great!
i was the 1st in VA to have a SC K24 EP3 in 2005. I had a trainwreck 2004 K24a2 - a zero mile salvage engine. I road coursed and mountain road the shit out of that for 42,000 miles
Your cornering speed vs your friend is top notch. Guessing this is the k20 and the red ones the k24 he was pulling away in the straights.
Yes.
Super cool. Definitely on my bucket list.
Same but I want to run it in my 95 accord lol
You corning really well with your EP3. Even on wide turns i can feel mine starting to dig into the turn and i slow it down before I lose it.
I owned a Porsche 944 and that car corners like a dream, i wasnt scared to corner at those speeds, matter a fact I'd give it a little more speed bc i knew she could take it.
It really depends on setup. These EP3 can be a hit or miss...
Smooth driving
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
thought he was payin a toll to get onto the autobahn at first lmfao
i own ep2 but watching how ep3 drives is something that motivates me to buy this one and boost it!
Great racing and you were miles better in the corners he just had slight pulling power on the straights.
Raw Vtec just kicked in yo!
everyone keeps telling me to turbocharge my ep3 but this is proof that its much more fun NA
Boosting will grant a lot of power. But in my opinion it does not suit the car. Unless you are into roll/drag racing. 280 hp N/A build like in the red civic in front, with all the proper suspension modifications is perfect receipt for fun and also fast trackday EP3.
@@MonsterCod1 completely agree 👍
And you lose vtec sound
You can still be fast staying N/A! 250+ horsepower in a civic feels like 400.
@@haarisfarooqui8637 civic is indeed quite light with 1180 kg withour rear seats , half a tank of gas and myself in a car. I calculated it would need around 300 hp to accelerate like BMW M3 E92 which are not rare on the ring. I'm not yet there, but my mate in red civic infrontm he did a rebuild and is aiming fo 300 with his K24.
That red civic is nasty!
Great driving man👌. What suspension is that? Looks planted!
Thanks. ;) It's HSD monopro coilovers 9/12 kg spring. Had its damping set on half. Car is pretty planted also because of Nankang AR1 tires.
@@MonsterCod1 thank you very much mate! 👍👍
@@MonsterCod1 is 9 on front and 12rear?
@@rodik6816 Yes. :)
Car looks planted even at the apex, wish I took mine to the ring before I sold it 😞
Too bad. Its fun. But you can take whatever car you own to this track and it will be fun i suppose :P
I love ep3
Think even tho it revs a little less, ways more, and sits abit higher. The K24 for a fast road/track build is the one to go for. And i can always swop the head in the future if i want the best of both worlds.
Totally agree.
Guessing red odyssey was k24 swapped? Those k24s tq is amazing can’t beat it. I do miss revving to 9k but the tq is so much more usable on the street in my case.
Red civic is lightly tuned 282 hp k24 block with stock k20a2 head . I agree. It really is something else that torque from k24.
Honda Freaks wow that’s fast,
@@MonsterCod1 and yours? What power?
@@king-manu2758 Dynoed 215 BHP, just RBC intake manifold, cai and 2 inch exhaust with cat still in.
@@MonsterCod1 k24/k20 - Frankenstain :D
Red ep3 is frank. What mods does he have? I just wonder what would you be doing in the k24 ep3 if you were driving it. You seem like you know your ways around the wheel and pedals while he relays on the cars power.
Cheers from croatia!
Red civic was tuned 282 hp k24 block with stock k20a2 head, clutch type LSD, and all the goodies around suspension and brakes. I'm wondering myself what could i achieve with such modifications, but i guess i will never found out, since i'm constantly battling with myself, if its worth spending such money on EP3, when i want RWD car sooner or later. Greetings to croatia :) I plan to come back to Grobnik this year. I only driven there once and i had a blast. Unfortunately it was raining hard all day.
@@MonsterCod1 or do like my build we are starting today, ep3, awd, sequential 6 speed, 400hp, turbo, widebody, 18x10.5 square 285/35/18, halltech ecu, antilag, electric steering upgrades
@@ryancuda45 sweet. will you be using it for drag racing or circuit?
@@MonsterCod1 street, tarmac dirt rally were actually going for 1000hp driveshaft shop 5.9 axles and freelander driveshaft with flex disk s1built brackets, im using the gbr rsx ep3 rear dif bracket and drive by wire throttle body. also trying to do a fueltech ft600 ecu. rally coilovers and rally lower control arms and custom rear trailing arms
ill have rally lower control arms and coils and street lower control arms and coils.
Man, really wish to have any Honda car with K-series engine though...the acceleration and speed is so great also FF which has good cornering 😂😂
They are not that expensive :P If you work you should be able to afford one. These things have zero issues. A few precautios modifications, Normal service and it take all abuse :D
Jesus what' was the other car in front ??!!
Are you asking spec wise?
Der vor dir hat dich ja nur ausgebremst 🙈 fahre dieses jahr sliks... du auch? Was für eine rad geometrie fährst du? Wieviel sturz? Fahrwerk weich oder? Hast ja sau viel grip. Mekner übersteuert gerne. Gruss sandro
I had brand new Semislick Nankang AR1 tire and generally more courage. Colleague had Toyo r888 at the end of their life. Front camber -2.3 deg, rear -1.5 deg, toe 0 front and rear. I had coilovers damping settings set to quite soft. It's worth noting that i have OEM anti roll bars, which means the handling is more subtle. If you run a bigger rear anti roll bar it makes car rotating more, which can be used as advantage but it can feel a lot more dangerous especially on track like Nordschleife.
Google translate:
Ich hatte einen brandneuen Semislick Nankang AR1 Reifen und generell mehr Mut. Kollege hatte Toyo r888 am Ende ihres Lebens. Vorderer Sturz -2,3 Grad, hinten -1,5 Grad, Zehen 0 vorne und hinten. Ich hatte Gewindefahrwerke Dämpfungseinstellungen auf ziemlich weich eingestellt. Es ist erwähnenswert, dass ich OEM-Stabilisatoren habe, was bedeutet, dass das Handling subtiler ist. Wenn Sie einen größeren hinteren Stabilisator fahren, dreht sich das Auto stärker, was als Vorteil genutzt werden kann, sich aber besonders auf Strecken wie der Nordschleife viel gefährlicher anfühlt.
@@MonsterCod1 Thanks beaucoup Google Benutzer 😉
@@MonsterCod1 having 9/12kg springs its like if you had bigger rear anti roll bar
@@noahprince6411 it is. but people usually also put bigger sway bar on the back and then the car is even more oversteery.
I think we can all agree that an original engine in a car just feels better as long as it can deliver the performance needed
It feels different.Better is a thing of taste. It is very rev happy. Unless you have built K24 you do not get that near 9k redline. Although K24 torque is superior for racing.
VTEC power 😍😍😍😍
EP3. FN2. Now FK2. Alway type R 😀
Why your friend put a K24 in the civic? isnt the original k20 better?
Faster on the straights plus more potential for power I'd assume.
How much fuel do you use on one lap?
50 L tank is enough for 5 laps in 6th lap it can start sucking air. This equates to roughly 9L per lap. This is only a guess!
Which one has the k20 and which the k24 ?
Mine (camera) car is k20. Other k24
the camera car driver definitely drives way better, but the k24 pulls harder
Modifications wise red car is superior in every way. It's really down to how comfortable one is with pushing and how much he is willing to risk.
@@MonsterCod1 still, great footage!
9k is the way
Нихера вас бэха уделала на легке. Хорошо знаешь трек 👍
0:25 is the first time in my life I ever saw someone slam a car from second gear into first gear while still driving at considerable speed.
Hahah. Well at least i rev matched before shifting , and it went in relatively smooth. But still i do this extremly rarely!
Какое максимальное время?
2:44 des freins s'il vous plaît!!
stock size brakes :D
Opa en slovenc s civicom
Mods?
Mods at the time:
- RBC intake manifold and CAI
- Doctronic Pro ECU-K engine management
(at the time with no tune yet, later dyno said 212 hp) full remap later 248 hp
- Actionclutch stage 3
- Coilovers
HSD monopro
- roll centre adjusters
- adjusted front camber (coilover plates) and rear camber (hardrace upper arms)
- grooved discs
- HEL braided brake lines
- PBS brake pads on stock calipers
- Motul RBF600 brake fluid
- Nankang sportnex AR1 225/45/17
@@MonsterCod1 thank you
@@MonsterCod1 248 hp with just RBC and CAI ?
@@zzanir no. 212 hp was with rbc and cai . Before remap also 2.75 inch (70mm) SRS exhaust with decat was installed, and 70mm throttle body.
Does the music help your driving?🤣
Yea. Imagine listening to eurobeat . Would probably end in a wall. 🤣 On a serious note, actually i could not even hear it playing and normally music while driving on track is no go for me
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Thought they were faster than that
rgb head unit +10 hp
Gauges on A pillar, instant +30hp
2:50 : 💩
Check more of moments on my friends channel. ua-cam.com/video/iCkYTP_8iH4/v-deo.html
K24 is a touch quicker
Turbo?
N/A
Steevn _ lol it’s pretty obviously it’s n/a
So no difference really...
Quite a difference in acceleration for sure. Check how it pulls lenghts uphill.
@@MonsterCod1 3:30 that's right 👍
Imagine needing gloves lol
I was not keen on gloves either until i've driven a few trackdays in a summer. Sweaty hands means slippery wheel ;) at least my wheel is made with such material.
Too slow a civic k20 do 7.51 i hate the ep3 chassis 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Yeah its not the best chassis for sure. Especialy compared to other honda chassis.