Personally, award shows are trash. It just seem like the performances are so common, lack luster & repetitive. Years ago some ppl literally wanted to go to award shows. Now some ppl just are glad they can't...!! Celebrities probably like " I can't believe I paid this to go to this boring show. "
The ad money is probably getting spent on stuff that makes money. Hiphop Awards is a net loss for them but they keep doing it because it’s part of BETs history but they’re done with pouring money into it.
I use to watch BET damn near everyday back when they had Rap City, Comic View, Teen Summit, Video Soul with Donnie Simpson then Sherry Carter, The Source Awards, BET Uncut, Access Granted, 106 n Park. I haven't watched BET since those iconic shows went off the air. I still try to catch the BET Awards, but miss most of them by accident.
Not true the show is bad because bet doesn’t try to make it better. There’s old talent that they could always tap into but they continuously dropping the ball
@@getsomemoney2433 the ogs aren't gonna draw in viewership tho...i agree a show would work with them but this gen is very disrespectful and dismissive of those that came before them snd and it shows in their lack of talent, stage presence and performance.
There’s talent. They choose to pander to the lowest common denominator audience. It’s an AWARD SHOW. In theory, it’s supposed to honor and celebrate the most prominent and prestigious members of the genre. In execution, they only honor the most prominent, or popular, acts. It doesn’t look to shine a light on the independent rap scene so we’re really just watching a popularity contest unfold with that show.
I think the last BET AWARDS I really watched and enjoyed were when Rick James and Teena Marie performed high and drunk😂😂😂 and the last HipHop awards I watched was the one with the Kdot and TDE cypher
Ngl BET did it to themselves. They constantly disrespected the artist that brought in views for years to there network. So now that those artists are gone BET awards & BET HIP HOP awards has gone to sh!t.
A prime example was when they had Karreuche talk about Blue Ivy's hair. They disrespected Nicki Minaj when Cardi won the Grammy. They lost Nicki and the Barbz before that but their tweet put it over the top.
Low key back in the day hip hop was hated. I think the overseers are pulling the plug on it. When they are done NOBODY will be remembered as a legend smh ... High key it hurts
Because most of these rapoers are talking about the same thing. Guns, drugs, women...and then the videos are the same, a bunch of dudes with money bulging from the pockets and waiving guns around.
You got sexy red you got Lotto you got ice spice you got sweetie no talent all is talking about twerking and bending over and licking and all that old kind of crap just unnecessary ain't nothing like there's no r&B there's no hip hop there's nothing it's all trash it's all internet
Because niggas grew up. The hip hop landscape right now reminds me of a school bus of middle schoolers all competing over who can yell the loudest. All the antics, the agendas, the deterioration of fan to rapper relations, corporate greed… shit don’t hit the same no more. All that behavior is childish and most people don’t got time for that convoluted garbage.
People don’t watch anymore because the music it’s designed to honor is trash. The cyphers which made this show unique can’t function anymore. The rappers now, suck. So the people out there that defend this new age hip hop, this shows people do not care. Sales are down? Oh yea cause the music sucks. Get this disposable trash ass music outta here. Bring real hip hop back.
Which is blasphemy….. if it was JAY-z they would’ve been all over it 😡…. These dudes don’t like Nas so I wouldn’t expect them to cover anything he does…. 🤷🏽
New artists no longer need the awards shows to become popular due to social media and record labels are only investing in artists that are already popping online.
ISH is 100% correct. The Artist themselves don’t participate. Let’s be honest, the Artist themselves don’t show up (legends / old and new acts). We do it to ourselves, not keeping our programs relevant. Instead, we’ll show-up for everyone else but ourselves. People keep saying “let’s make our own”. We have our own, we just need to support it.
It's because of the lack of talent. These paid for awards are causing people to not watch these shows. That's the bottom line. If people watch, the advertisers will come regardless. But if you are propping up trash artists who have these fraudulent streams and sales that are forced on us, no one will watch.
The irony of it all… isn’t this what record execs do to artists in a way but worse, at least with mags back in the day it was a mutually beneficial relationship. People actually read Hip Hop magazines
I stopped watching when FREAKING JACK HARLOW GOT NOMINATED FOR A BET AWARD. I’ll repeat, a white guy, JACK HARLOW GOT NOMINATED FOR A BLACK ENTERTAINMENT AWARD!!
@@dawb86 Oh my God. I forgot about her! That was even WORSE. At least Jack Harlow can actually rap. She was a straight fraud. I’ll never forget that time she went on Sway and gave one of the worst freestyle performances I’ve ever scene. That chick couldn’t rap to save her life. She was the DEFINITION of a culture vulture.
I rolled out long ago, after BET sold out. One of the first things they did was cancel Teen Summit. Dead giveaway as far as the direction that they wanted to head in. And boyyyyy did they keep heading in that direction. Smh
BET has been owned by yts/Viacom for over 20 years now. Sad state of affairs for sure. And WTF is a yt passing latino (fat joe) hosting these award shows?
im from vegas and literally had no fucking clue they were having the bet awards here lol the lakers vs warriors preseason game was the same day and it was at the bigger arena which means it was definitely the bigger attraction
This ain’t bet fault , Hip Hop don’t even support Hip Hop. The artist don’t show up , and the people know that. That’s why it declines every year. Hell salut to bet for trying to keep the thing going. At least they care enough to do that. We are our own enemy every time
Fair enough, but they also didn’t grow the budget with the show. They still film the BET awards in an auditorium. Low budgets won’t get you the big artist. You gotta add some prestige.
You got it twisted, it's the other way around. The talent stopped showing up bc the show was whack, not the other way around. Black ppl dont support BET for a REASON
@@2tearsinabucketpodcast707 because blacks don’t support each other. They won’t come to the black award shows but they’ll sit up with them white folks at the Grammys.
Music award shows stopped being important abt 3-4 years ago. Idk if it’s because we get older and realize what we like isn’t abt what others think or it’s really just gotten that bad in popular music. The feminism wave killed a lot of people from watching too. Contrary to popular belief we rather good artist and good music over ass shaking and no talent.
No, the rise of social media and online personalities means the young crowd no longer look at musicians like they used to. They need to do the BET online personality awards, not just Hop Hop music. The traditional concept is DONE!
No BAD music and artists with no substance killed it, you blame feminism for twerking? Well maybe also blame the constant drugs, sex, flexing, and crime male rappers talk about 99.9% of the time with no actual talent either.
Feels like there's an attack on real hip hop right now. They treatin' it like fast food. It's over saturated more than ever, yet recognized with way less honors...even by one of our supposed main platforms in BET.
People still checking for the BET awards? I could have sworn people stopped watching BET like 10 years ago just like everyone abandoned MTV. BET is just house of Payne reruns and MTV is Teen Mom and Ridiculousness on repeat. No one goes to either network for anything music
I'll explain it whilst I agree with Joe. As a former Events Manager. Their saving budget & keeping it tight because lets be honest. In today's world, BET is irrelevant because nobody is watching Television anymore due to the fact that the Internet has taken over which has become the new TV. Even though it was also streaming online they could have focused on partnering with Online Streaming companies & social media brands which would have got their ratings more up to generate funds for the next years Awards & so on. As Joe said, its true most Award ceremony's are just using brands to finance their other businesses behind the scenes.
Good take on Mariano as a yankee fan I never experienced stress at end of World Series with Mariano always being there. I was on the edge of my seat lmao
It was over for BET after AJ and Free left.
Shiiiid. Way before that.
@@Black____ When the Wife became the owner 😅
It was over when they sold it to a white man/company 😂😂😂
Accurate
When they left, it was over. Terrance and rocsi was OK but man
Bro I stopped watching that shit when I was like 12 years old I’m 31
😂 sounds about right I'm 32
Yo deadass
damn
BET Hip Hop Awards has not been on that long. Sorry lol!
@mikediddyTV i gonna say the same..rhey must be thinking about the BET Awards
Award shows been played out its not just bet awards. You know its trash when some of the nominees and even the winners dont show up
Award shows suck because the artist suck.
Personally, award shows are trash. It just seem like the performances are so common, lack luster & repetitive. Years ago some ppl literally wanted to go to award shows. Now some ppl just are glad they can't...!! Celebrities probably like " I can't believe I paid this to go to this boring show. "
BET does too many commercials to not have a budget to get things done right
Viacom bought it in 2009
They using those acts to squeeze money out and don’t put it back into the network
The ad money is probably getting spent on stuff that makes money. Hiphop Awards is a net loss for them but they keep doing it because it’s part of BETs history but they’re done with pouring money into it.
they are sinking. the ads are barely keeping them afloat. they have to air ads because the content is trash.
Bob Johnson sold BET to Viacom. As a culture, we know better and have moved on years ago.
Werd no one black owns BET
@@princebadeior9631not surprising really. After ending segregation...no more negro leagues....no more chitlin circuit...no more Black Street!
Tyler Perry now owns BeT I believe
@@brentonbogan7326no he tried but they refused his offer
@@brentonbogan7326nope he said the price they wanted was ridiculous. Even Byron (I forgot his last name), put a bid in too and said the same thing.
E-40 and Too Short was probably already at the club.
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Lmaooo that's funny as hell
Damn 😂
Weakkkkkk 😂😂😂
I use to watch BET damn near everyday back when they had Rap City, Comic View, Teen Summit, Video Soul with Donnie Simpson then Sherry Carter, The Source Awards, BET Uncut, Access Granted, 106 n Park. I haven't watched BET since those iconic shows went off the air. I still try to catch the BET Awards, but miss most of them by accident.
Last time the Hip-Hop awards was remotely decent was when TDE and Slaughterhouse had a Cypher on it.. WE LOSING RECIPES!!
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That was like 2010 or 2011 right? I think that’s when I stopped watching
Viacom wrote us out of positivity.
Bro, I can’t even criticize that company without my comments disappearing.
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Isn’t Tyler Perry in charge?
@@brentonbogan7326 is he ?
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The show was bad because there is no longer any REAL talent.
Not true the show is bad because bet doesn’t try to make it better. There’s old talent that they could always tap into but they continuously dropping the ball
I just said this. The new crop of artists can barely read out loud..much less put on a good performance.
@@getsomemoney2433 the ogs aren't gonna draw in viewership tho...i agree a show would work with them but this gen is very disrespectful and dismissive of those that came before them snd and it shows in their lack of talent, stage presence and performance.
There’s talent. They choose to pander to the lowest common denominator audience. It’s an AWARD SHOW. In theory, it’s supposed to honor and celebrate the most prominent and prestigious members of the genre. In execution, they only honor the most prominent, or popular, acts. It doesn’t look to shine a light on the independent rap scene so we’re really just watching a popularity contest unfold with that show.
@@getsomemoney2433nas dropping 5 albums no nominations is crazy
BET & BET HIP HOP Awards sucking are irrelevant none of them are important anymore
Folks don’t want to admit it smh….
Yeah, I don’t know why they made it seem like it’s ONLY the hip hop awards. Both of em trash
When the music got bad ,we stopped caring
Everything now is about the Super bowl
@@dawb86no literally every one is admitting it. It’s BET that can’t see what they are loosing or have lost
I think the last BET AWARDS I really watched and enjoyed were when Rick James and Teena Marie performed high and drunk😂😂😂 and the last HipHop awards I watched was the one with the Kdot and TDE cypher
The last time that I had watched BET show was when Michael Jackson and James Brown had performed. 😭🤣🤣🤣
Garbage man analogy was hilarious
I didn't even know there were two different Bet award shows
Where you been?
Me too and I'm old 😂
@@Eugene-nc6rf 😂😂😂
What are the 2 ? Movies and music?
@@chinocary3158The BET Awards & The BET HIPHOP Awards.
The artist are not entertaining no more. Honestly Kendrick and Drake and Cole ran this year💯
Facts and they all pushing 40. There's no one to carry the torch. Genre is cooked.
vince, schoolboy q, tyler, denzel
It’s too ratchet and dirty and cheap
Ngl BET did it to themselves. They constantly disrespected the artist that brought in views for years to there network. So now that those artists are gone BET awards & BET HIP HOP awards has gone to sh!t.
A prime example was when they had Karreuche talk about Blue Ivy's hair. They disrespected Nicki Minaj when Cardi won the Grammy. They lost Nicki and the Barbz before that but their tweet put it over the top.
Wtf is going on with HIP-HOP?? Seriously... this is insane
Low key back in the day hip hop was hated. I think the overseers are pulling the plug on it. When they are done NOBODY will be remembered as a legend smh ... High key it hurts
Because most of these rapoers are talking about the same thing. Guns, drugs, women...and then the videos are the same, a bunch of dudes with money bulging from the pockets and waiving guns around.
You got sexy red you got Lotto you got ice spice you got sweetie no talent all is talking about twerking and bending over and licking and all that old kind of crap just unnecessary ain't nothing like there's no r&B there's no hip hop there's nothing it's all trash it's all internet
@@diamondprincess9168agreed! remember when lyrics mattered! They are pushing this type of "talent " just pathetic!
Because niggas grew up. The hip hop landscape right now reminds me of a school bus of middle schoolers all competing over who can yell the loudest. All the antics, the agendas, the deterioration of fan to rapper relations, corporate greed… shit don’t hit the same no more. All that behavior is childish and most people don’t got time for that convoluted garbage.
“It’s really WET, not BET” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤙🏾
People don’t watch anymore because the music it’s designed to honor is trash. The cyphers which made this show unique can’t function anymore. The rappers now, suck.
So the people out there that defend this new age hip hop, this shows people do not care.
Sales are down? Oh yea cause the music sucks. Get this disposable trash ass music outta here. Bring real hip hop back.
Just a side note: Country music is on the rise
I can see how much effort you put in!
I don’t even remember the last time I watched the BET Awards 😂
When I was in my early double digits, mom was alive, and we would actually hit the store for snacks. Lmfao. I'm 27, so it's been 15 or so years since.
I stopped the year after MJ died
90s
At one point we were all glued into our tv 📺 sets patiently waiting to see the BET Awards. Nowadays we by pass the channel to watch anything else.
We were ? Lol
Meanwhile Nas put on the Grandmaster Awards for the second year in a row and still no coverage 🤦🏾♂️
Which is blasphemy….. if it was JAY-z they would’ve been all over it 😡…. These dudes don’t like Nas so I wouldn’t expect them to cover anything he does…. 🤷🏽
And it was in vegas. Didn’t realize til I walked by the area where they were setting up inside the aria
New artists no longer need the awards shows to become popular due to social media and record labels are only investing in artists that are already popping online.
Tbh it makes me feel like hiphop Going broke
That’s exactly what’s happening. Hip Hop is dying financially but people are not ready for that conversation
Its not going broke there is little value put on the production. The older original Hip , hop talent has retired from the scene.
Every time you post, I'm excited!
Ayo
ISH is 100% correct. The Artist themselves don’t participate. Let’s be honest, the Artist themselves don’t show up (legends / old and new acts).
We do it to ourselves, not keeping our programs relevant. Instead, we’ll show-up for everyone else but ourselves. People keep saying “let’s make our own”. We have our own, we just need to support it.
The lineup sounds like a Carshow in the hood
It's because of the lack of talent. These paid for awards are causing people to not watch these shows. That's the bottom line. If people watch, the advertisers will come regardless. But if you are propping up trash artists who have these fraudulent streams and sales that are forced on us, no one will watch.
I use to only watch for the cyphers now they barely do it if at all
I was expecting Glorilla to do one of her songs . Why have her there as just a feature 🤦🏾♀️
We got hip hop awards at home
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BET Hip Hop Awards been over for about 10 years, they just had a few high moments because of SOME of the earlier cyphers
Fat Joe shouldn't have even been at that awards
The embarrassment from previous awards ruined the Bet Award show
No Cyphers No More That's The Only Reason I Watched It 💯
Once 106 and park stopped the bet awards became a thing of the past . We need 106 and park tbh
The bet awards suck because there isnt enough real talent. Its just what it is. Everyone just makes music. It's not about the art anymore.
A Tyler Perry production 😂😂😂😂
I did the 😬 face HEAVY. Lmfao
Actually, Paramount owns it under CBS. Ngz don't know sht. So how is it Blavk Entertainment? More like slow nga entertainment
They were ROASTING this shyt😂
That’s it
@6:09 Joe point about using artists Jay Z said this on 99 Problems “black mags try to us my black ass so advertisers can give them more cash for ads”
Yeah I remember that line
The irony of it all… isn’t this what record execs do to artists in a way but worse, at least with mags back in the day it was a mutually beneficial relationship. People actually read Hip Hop magazines
@@87LohanBeneficial 😂
Jay been speaking this for the longest
I stopped watching when FREAKING JACK HARLOW GOT NOMINATED FOR A BET AWARD. I’ll repeat, a white guy, JACK HARLOW GOT NOMINATED FOR A BLACK ENTERTAINMENT AWARD!!
Seriously?
Long before him Iggy Azalea did which was actually much more egregious lol….
@@dawb86 Oh my God. I forgot about her! That was even WORSE. At least Jack Harlow can actually rap. She was a straight fraud. I’ll never forget that time she went on Sway and gave one of the worst freestyle performances I’ve ever scene. That chick couldn’t rap to save her life. She was the DEFINITION of a culture vulture.
Eminem’s been winning BET awards for years. Gotta relax.
@@SterlingStarksIzHere I just don’t understand why they call it the BET awards if people who aren’t black can win.
I only used to tune in to BET Hip Hop Awards for the cyphers. And when them shits started getting watery I don’t even care anymore
JOE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TYLA SO BAD
I honestly have no idea what he has against that girl
@@Nerd-gasmhe don't like her, simple. He doesn't have to. I'm not feeling her tethered ass either 🤷🏿♀️
He’s allowed to dislike her, she’s another ice spice
@@deevasquez1171 ftsek, msunukanyoko
She has an awful personality
I rolled out long ago, after BET sold out. One of the first things they did was cancel Teen Summit. Dead giveaway as far as the direction that they wanted to head in. And boyyyyy did they keep heading in that direction. Smh
4:51 Parks’ disgust… 😅
That nigga had a whole lot of sassy in his voice when they mentioned a west coast artist
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
To me it sound like they was embarrassed that’s why they didn’t promote it
If anyone is watching award shows in 2024 that's on you. BET and all their "award" shows have been trash for years.
It’s like the Source Awards, that fizzled out and died too
BET has been owned by yts/Viacom for over 20 years now. Sad state of affairs for sure. And WTF is a yt passing latino (fat joe) hosting these award shows?
Facts
Literally
im from vegas and literally had no fucking clue they were having the bet awards here lol the lakers vs warriors preseason game was the same day and it was at the bigger arena which means it was definitely the bigger attraction
Lol “WET” 😂😂
I enjoyed E-40 not sure about the rest
Crazy thing is all these good artists out there old and new, know and within the underground scene and BET can’t get shyt right 😅
I haven’t watched BET or any of their shows unless they come on the Bounce channel 😂😂😂
BET is a Viacom company, do I need to say more?
Queenz flip yassss agree enough is enough
They need to cancel it altogether and archive it
They need to just cancel the hip hop awards and put that money towards the BET awards show to bring it back to its peak and have A-list celebrities.
This ain’t bet fault , Hip Hop don’t even support Hip Hop. The artist don’t show up , and the people know that. That’s why it declines every year. Hell salut to bet for trying to keep the thing going. At least they care enough to do that. We are our own enemy every time
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Fair enough, but they also didn’t grow the budget with the show. They still film the BET awards in an auditorium. Low budgets won’t get you the big artist. You gotta add some prestige.
You got it twisted, it's the other way around. The talent stopped showing up bc the show was whack, not the other way around. Black ppl dont support BET for a REASON
Artists don’t show up because the show is trash
@@2tearsinabucketpodcast707 because blacks don’t support each other. They won’t come to the black award shows but they’ll sit up with them white folks at the Grammys.
Music award shows stopped being important abt 3-4 years ago. Idk if it’s because we get older and realize what we like isn’t abt what others think or it’s really just gotten that bad in popular music. The feminism wave killed a lot of people from watching too. Contrary to popular belief we rather good artist and good music over ass shaking and no talent.
No, the rise of social media and online personalities means the young crowd no longer look at musicians like they used to. They need to do the BET online personality awards, not just Hop Hop music.
The traditional concept is DONE!
No BAD music and artists with no substance killed it, you blame feminism for twerking? Well maybe also blame the constant drugs, sex, flexing, and crime male rappers talk about 99.9% of the time with no actual talent either.
@@saintmte5076 Bingo. Social media is a main proponent of fucking up the culture of Hip-Hop. And severe lack of gatekeeping.
@@deevasquez1171Well let’s not act like Sexy Redd for example fits that box of those with no substance
Simple reason. BET no longer black owned
I live in Vegas and you just told me!
BET should invest in LL cool J and the Rock the bells and make that BET Hip Hop awards.
Or 50 Cent.
Rapping in Emmany’s same color Altima is CRAZY 😂😅😂😅
BET Awards reflecting the culture as a whole in the moment, and that’s the harsh truth. People hate the truth, but it is what it is.
the ending was crazy. it just randomly wrapped up 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
great ep
They need to have a BET Uncut Réunion, with a live performance of Tip drill..
And "White Girls" 😅
That's a good idea lol
Feels like there's an attack on real hip hop right now. They treatin' it like fast food. It's over saturated more than ever, yet recognized with way less honors...even by one of our supposed main platforms in BET.
E40 performance was lit
People still checking for the BET awards? I could have sworn people stopped watching BET like 10 years ago just like everyone abandoned MTV. BET is just house of Payne reruns and MTV is Teen Mom and Ridiculousness on repeat. No one goes to either network for anything music
Don’t know the last time I even watch that ish!!
Bruh they been done ever since them folks bought it 😂
This ain’t the 2000s era, business & showmanship will never be the same 11:50
Joe is a functional COKE HEAD😅😅😅😂😂😂
I just don’t have cable anymore and have enough streaming apps.
I miss BET Uncut " Ain't nothing like Money in the Ziploc Bag"
That Bizzy Bone 😂
The audience threw me off. Like I was watching love & hip hop 😂
I'll explain it whilst I agree with Joe. As a former Events Manager. Their saving budget & keeping it tight because lets be honest. In today's world, BET is irrelevant because nobody is watching Television anymore due to the fact that the Internet has taken over which has become the new TV. Even though it was also streaming online they could have focused on partnering with Online Streaming companies & social media brands which would have got their ratings more up to generate funds for the next years Awards & so on. As Joe said, its true most Award ceremony's are just using brands to finance their other businesses behind the scenes.
Steven Hill where are you?
'Caribbean' is a sea not an adjective to describe people. It's like saying you're part Pacific or part Atlantic. part 'West Indian' maybe.
Sorry B.E.T is no longer black owned. Nothings black about it.
That’s what I thought!
I never saw the point of award shows
Joe already got them 🔥 crocs
I only knew when i heard kendrick won 8 awards.
The last BET awards i saw was the one with Michael Jackson and James Brown.... it been over!
Disrespect on another Level smh I don't why they would even throw a show together like that
At least Nicki won for hip hop album of the year - Pink Friday 2 really was AOTY last year if we keeping it 💯
Good take on Mariano as a yankee fan I never experienced stress at end of World Series with Mariano always being there. I was on the edge of my seat lmao
After the Jadakiss, Fabulous, Juelz Santana cypher it was over for me
Look at the state of hip hop now…. What can BET do? Ppl are scared to come out. The whole cast should have been there. Especially Joe…🤷♀️
Bring back the source awards but damn! That would suck too probably
I remember having all my friends get together or get a three way call just so we could watch it - now 😢
Bob Johnson sold HIGH. Facts
It never as important, Tyla is so bomb
🤣🤣look like a Tyler Perry production😅😅
When Flips is on the right side of the fence it’s time to pack it up ! 🤣
Honestly didn't know anything about it
Must we tear everything down 😩🤦🏾♀️
Yea cuz this some bs this not black entertainment this was bs
It's called having standards and not just accepting any ol thing. Mentalities like yours is why we get what we get now