That is a very interesting operation. I had never considered knurling on a shaper. It has been nearly 40 yrs since I ran a shaper in a small repair shop. We repaired and built agricultural equipment as well as some industrial machinery. I really enjoy seeing someone keeping those oldtime skills alive. START WEARING SOME SAFETY GLASSES. PLEASE.
@@rynohorn3819 It could be done in a mill using a shop made fly cutter ground to the desired shape or a commercial multi toothed angled cutting tool. Or even on a lathe with the work attached to the cross slide or milling attachment. A job that would be much slower than this shaper did it since each line would require the resetting of the cut elevation. It could also be done with no machine tools using a 3 cornered file if your very good at fileing.
G'Day Pete, wow I never thought of doing this! thanks for sharing, this just gave me another 20 ideas or more for uses for my old German shaper, look forward to your next video, subscription plus 1 !
His Peter, that's a nice looking shaper, lots of levers and handles mine foes not have, I have shaper envy. What range of feed adjustment do you have perstroke ? Thanks for uploading, I shall add the video to my shaper play list. All the best Mat
H Mat the feed range is from a thou per stroke to pretty much what you see in the video that was set to the maximum advance your elliot is coming along well i scraped in the ram on a previous shaper i had not a small task keep up the good work cheers Peter
Hi. I just bought a planer, a little more and it should work. You have interesting videos on the channel, I leave a subscription and in my free time I will watch myself. - Regards from Poland , Paweł.
its made by the clapper box when the tool lifts up as it drags back over the work piece on the return stroke and the click is the tool falling back into position
There is a mechanism that shifts the table holding the vice over just a little on each return stroke. Then when the cutter comes forward the table remains fixed and this feed mechanism resets. It works much like a ratchet wrench. You have some adjustment on how much the table is moved each time and you can have it go either direction. (or not at all) In this case you hear several clicks on each stroke because that gives enough movement to create the nice pattern. For lighter rates of feed you would have only one or two clicks. The clapper isn't really making any noise that I can hear in this operation. The noise is clearly happening on the cutting part of the cycle when the clapper is pressed down and not able to make noise. I am going to try this on my shaper.
I have a mechanical device for life support that's about the size of your hand I have four side plates to on the top two on the bottom. I'm trying to figure out the best way to do something with that metal because it's stainless steel it's almost impossible to color but engraving is the limit your method is awesome but very time-consuming
this is really cool to watch. i wish someone would start making vise blanks like that. just sell the knurled flat bar that people can drill thier own holes and mount to thier vise. Restoring an old Record #34 vise and there are no replacement jaws. guess i need to find a machine shop and see if they will knurl some flats for me to use. just hope two 5" flat bars getting knurled isnt gonna run over 100$
Hi this is exactly what I was looking for! I have a set of billet aluminum flat top bmx pedals and their polished smooth on top. Would you be interested in knurling the faces of them for me? It would be the exact same process your using in this video.
Look like vice jaws... u gonna case-harden 'em ? The cross hatch wont last long if u don't !! DAMHIK 🙄🤓 I did similar only on the mill , using an endmill angled at 45° but never hardened them... 😞 😎👍☘
hi, never give it a second thought, that you can use the shaper as a knurling tool thanks for the idea, will give it a try regards...Keith in Swindon u.k
thanks Keith it works well just have to make sure the stepover is the same on each stroke if the advance is set wrong and it grabs a half tooth every now and then it spoils it cheers Peter
Technically but possibly it could be a term only used in North America it's usually called checkering. Knurling by pressure between a pair of wheels or cut knurling is I believe the term only used for completely round work while being done in a lathe. Checkering designates non round items and used while doing gun stock work on wood and flat or semi curved parts on metal.
No safety glasses?
i like to live life on the edge some times
Hi there safety Nazi
How's your seeing eye dog?
dont know i havent seen him did you see what i did there
Safety squints - engaged!
That is a very interesting operation. I had never considered knurling on a shaper. It has been nearly 40 yrs since I ran a shaper in a small repair shop. We repaired and built agricultural equipment as well as some industrial machinery. I really enjoy seeing someone keeping those oldtime skills alive.
START WEARING SOME SAFETY GLASSES. PLEASE.
Is there another way to knurl vise jaws besides using the shaper? I'm dying to know! Thanks, Ryan
@@rynohorn3819 It could be done in a mill using a shop made fly cutter ground to the desired shape or a commercial multi toothed angled cutting tool. Or even on a lathe with the work attached to the cross slide or milling attachment. A job that would be much slower than this shaper did it since each line would require the resetting of the cut elevation. It could also be done with no machine tools using a 3 cornered file if your very good at fileing.
Awesome. Thanks for making your videos.
Looks great. Keep up the good work!
What is the brand name of the shaper ??? Do you know how many companies used square ways on their machines ??? Thanks VF
G'Day Pete, wow I never thought of doing this! thanks for sharing, this just gave me another 20 ideas or more for uses for my old German shaper, look forward to your next video, subscription plus 1 !
thanks Warren
His Peter, that's a nice looking shaper, lots of levers and handles mine foes not have, I have shaper envy. What range of feed adjustment do you have perstroke ?
Thanks for uploading, I shall add the video to my shaper play list. All the best Mat
H Mat
the feed range is from a thou per stroke to pretty much what you see in the video that was set to the maximum advance
your elliot is coming along well i scraped in the ram on a previous shaper i had not a small task keep up the good work
cheers
Peter
Pretty cool What brand of shaper is it. I have a 24" Rockford Thanks
Thanks its a TOS hm45 18"
Hi.
I just bought a planer, a little more and it should work.
You have interesting videos on the channel, I leave a subscription and in my free time I will watch myself.
- Regards from Poland , Paweł.
thanks make sure you put up some videos of your planer too
Nice results. I'm curious what causes the clicking sounds before the tool contacts the work?
its made by the clapper box when the tool lifts up as it drags back over the work piece on the return stroke and the click is the tool falling back into position
AHA!
There is a mechanism that shifts the table holding the vice over just a little on each return stroke. Then when the cutter comes forward the table remains fixed and this feed mechanism resets. It works much like a ratchet wrench. You have some adjustment on how much the table is moved each time and you can have it go either direction. (or not at all) In this case you hear several clicks on each stroke because that gives enough movement to create the nice pattern. For lighter rates of feed you would have only one or two clicks. The clapper isn't really making any noise that I can hear in this operation. The noise is clearly happening on the cutting part of the cycle when the clapper is pressed down and not able to make noise. I am going to try this on my shaper.
@@harty7373 Feed screw ratchet.
Can you share the knurling size?
Thanks for sharing it was reassuring to hear the "COCKIES" flying overhead knowing it was a "Aussie Video " !!!!!!!
very beautiful shaper, nice work!
No safety glasses ! You naughty boy !
Nice that is just beautifully done. Thank you. Nice video. Thank again
I have a mechanical device for life support that's about the size of your hand I have four side plates to on the top two on the bottom. I'm trying to figure out the best way to do something with that metal because it's stainless steel it's almost impossible to color but engraving is the limit your method is awesome but very time-consuming
Great, now I need to buy a shaper. Nice going!
yes you do
nice job. :)
this is really cool to watch. i wish someone would start making vise blanks like that. just sell the knurled flat bar that people can drill thier own holes and mount to thier vise. Restoring an old Record #34 vise and there are no replacement jaws. guess i need to find a machine shop and see if they will knurl some flats for me to use. just hope two 5" flat bars getting knurled isnt gonna run over 100$
Hi this is exactly what I was looking for! I have a set of billet aluminum flat top bmx pedals and their polished smooth on top. Would you be interested in knurling the faces of them for me? It would be the exact same process your using in this video.
Look like vice jaws... u gonna case-harden 'em ? The cross hatch wont last long if u don't !! DAMHIK 🙄🤓
I did similar only on the mill , using an endmill angled at 45° but never hardened them... 😞
😎👍☘
they are vice jaws but there soft jaws made from aluminium so i want them to be soft cheers
Nice. What was your depth of cut?
hi, never give it a second thought, that you can use the shaper as a knurling tool
thanks for the idea, will give it a try
regards...Keith in Swindon u.k
thanks Keith it works well just have to make sure the stepover is the same on each stroke if the advance is set wrong and it grabs a half tooth every now and then it spoils it
cheers
Peter
Nice shaper enjoyed the video thanks
Love the shaper, nice job on the jaws.
Safety glasses mate
Awesome 😎
Nice...don't think you can call it knurling, more like cutting serrations.
true but who would watch a video called that
Technically but possibly it could be a term only used in North America it's usually called checkering. Knurling by pressure between a pair of wheels or cut knurling is I believe the term only used for completely round work while being done in a lathe. Checkering designates non round items and used while doing gun stock work on wood and flat or semi curved parts on metal.
I use this technique for sheet metal handling tools
learnt it whilst a apprentice at gord motor company 27 yrs ago
Hi peter could you show the cutter for doing this work please, great idea
its just a lathe thread cutting tool
thank you peter
Nicely done. Thanks for sharing this.