As a young disobedient deviant (Slumflower fan), this conversation is extremely useful for talking with my friends who have more of Zeze’s mindset in a productive manner.
Slumflower operates out of pure reality, she's not holding out "hope" for a fairytale. In one way it's bleak, in another more important way, it's empowering
its not really empowering at all it leads to a lifetime of dealing with men that shouldnt even be in the same proximity morality wise as her but she will allow them due to money.
ZeZe giving ABSOLUTE GODDESS with this hairstyle and glowing skin WOW 😍 And a really enjoyable conversation to watch I laughed out loud several times and had agreements on both sides, this was a great, insightful and very intriguing interview 🎉
The slumflower is not in fairytale land anymore. The thing is, Men will sing a song they wrote and have desperate women sing along for generations.. but women like the slum flower stopped singing, paid attention to the lyrics and said NOPE!.. " I'll curate my own song then..and the men that want to , should sing along to mine instead".
There’s millions of men on this planet. The ones she’s hyper focused on are the only ones she thinks exist.(all men) she’s literally creating her own reality based on what she’s expectant of whilst being blind to the other literal 100000s of men who are actually genuinely genuine
Lmao yall are naive, the same men responsible for 99% of SA, murder, CSA and femicide? And the "nice" ones exploit your domestic labour and stress you out such that women disproportionately suffer with autoimmune issues?
So interesting. Looooved this. I think ta Chiddi actually gets off so much from teasing and that's why she can stay so consistent. Maybe she even likes more teasing than actually having sex. And for Zeze was so interesting when she tried to explain the difference between prostitution and marriage and actually was describing a prostitution where you serve so much more than just sex and therefore should receive so much more. Ir actually sounded so much like a big prostitution ahahha. Also in that moment thought it was ignorant to think that prostitution is only a sexual/pleasure transaction without a relationship, where I have watched interviews of Doms and subs and they've been working together for years and have actually developed such an interesting/profound relationship Another reflection I had was when Zeze said that the thought was what mattered and was nice. I thought well, the bar is low, because if someone its going to make dinner for you and just gives you bread, you would be disappointed, the same with bad/chesp flowers or anything really, if its not considering your taste and putting effort, is it really enough that it was done or do we want it well done?
I find the host's reactions really bizarre and quite shocking. I seriously think this is because of the economic environment a lot of black women in the UK are in. I live in Asia, and it is the NORM for expat spouses (coming from the UK, US, all over) to have husbands who cover everything. There is nuance but a loving man who understands and operates out of reality, will put assets in his wife's name, help her set up a business so she can work for herself, have full-time help. People are reacting to the bluntness of what Chidera is saying but it is completely normal. The men in corporate in Asia are puffed up re what international schools their kids go to and how well-dressed and well-cared for their wives are. There are lots of other issues, don't get me wrong, and there is a lot of ego (obviously), but it's so frustrating to see women asking her if this is "toxic." How strange to judge a woman for only allowing feelings to develop for a man who treats her well. Interestingly, the couples in Asia I see who start to have issues with this norm, who start to put more financial pressure on the woman to contribute, are black...go figure.
This is the mentality of Caribbean women vs west African/ arab/ Russian women. Caribbean women are used to men being the prize and not expected to provide. Its why a lot of Caribbean millennial women on social media get so upset when they see other women expecting/ demanding more.
It's true, I'm Jamaican but my mentality is more like African, Russian and Arab women that's why all of my friends are from those demographics😂. I don't bother even sharing my dating life with my family because they always give pick me advice
@58:00 she’s telling a one sided story. Because the facts remain that women initiate 80% of divorces and most times it’s due to finances (ie the man not earning enough for her). Women leave more often when their side of the transaction isn’t fulfilled.
Ngl after a few years I hoped slumflower would have grown up from this kind of talk. She sounds like a 21 year old who is chronically online and her dating life and prospects just sound sad. Her thoughts and lifestyle are not revolutionary in the slightest
I pray slumflower gets deep deliverance from all her demons and trauma from men. I pray both of them will come to know the love of Christ & marry men of God. 🙏🏽
@MyFaithIsMyTherapy Generation is cooked. These are the same women that will scream BLM or talk about the black experience in the UK - poverty/trauma, yet some how it doesn't apply to black men? These same women will attack these men for not having the same amount of money as their white counterparts , or not being able to buy them a Chanel bag. These materialistic selfish women will scream feminism but have ZERO feminine or nurturing energy and wonder why they don't get picked.. They say they don't care about being alone yet are obsessed with talking about men and pick mes. Why are they so bothered if theyre so cool being alone and loving themselves? Because they're insecure and delusional and playing it off as tough and self - loving. What happened to being human and unconditional love ? Im sick of people living in their first world trauma, its like the traume olympics! They think they are wise but they are so unealed it has turned into delusion. All this im a goddess energy will get you a place in hell. I used to think like this and think this selfishly but I found Jesus and I pray you all do too. Amen
Slumflower is a classic example of of an individual projecting an ideal that she is unable to achieve herself. No young aspirational lady is looking at her like "I wanna be like her one day".
get that bag... always remember men aint shit especially nigerian and jamican men ones two sides of the same coin. I married a broke one had to get a divorce within a year ... no sir you will not degrade my lifestyle to upgrade yours .
Wow. You said it tho and I understand. However, I think all black need the 👀, for real. They seem incapable of friendship, affection, kindness and genuine intimacy. I also think a lot of black women don't know what it means to expect these traits so accept the bare minimum.
Why does she keep using examples of nonsense men to justify her nonsense ways. She’s just as nonsensical as the men she complains about, let’s have it right.
@rashid88 that's quite an insecure comment to make. She's gorgeous. I suggest you evaluate your soul cause you're deeply scarred mate. Deliverance in Jesus name🙏🏾
As a young disobedient deviant (Slumflower fan), this conversation is extremely useful for talking with my friends who have more of Zeze’s mindset in a productive manner.
1:03:58 - “I don’t want to be in a situation where a man feels comfortable to talk outside of his neck to me!” 🔥
Bring it!!!!
Nigerian Woman Final Boss 😂😂 I respect her honesty though
Slumflower operates out of pure reality, she's not holding out "hope" for a fairytale. In one way it's bleak, in another more important way, it's empowering
Lmao
its not really empowering at all it leads to a lifetime of dealing with men that shouldnt even be in the same proximity morality wise as her but she will allow them due to money.
That's why I love her, we love a smart woman
"You need to train yourself to have the ick for men that can't do anything for you". The Slumflower is truly eloquent.
WHEN CHIDDY SPEAKS IM SAT!!
Literally same ❤❤
ZeZe giving ABSOLUTE GODDESS with this hairstyle and glowing skin WOW 😍 And a really enjoyable conversation to watch I laughed out loud several times and had agreements on both sides, this was a great, insightful and very intriguing interview 🎉
Side note: zeze’s hair looks soo regal.
1000%
Yes she looks amazing and so elegant
The slumflower is not in fairytale land anymore. The thing is, Men will sing a song they wrote and have desperate women sing along for generations.. but women like the slum flower stopped singing, paid attention to the lyrics and said NOPE!.. " I'll curate my own song then..and the men that want to , should sing along to mine instead".
@catchabbie but the gag is no men want to, unless they have a weird fetish lol. I don't make the rules
@@Izzybalogun President General of Men's Congress Union all over the world (MCU) .. I hail you😂
@@catchabbie nah you're just very dumb . Will pray for you
This this this!
I can’t wait! They don’t Normally think alike so I’m here to enjoy the ride! My girl slumflower😍
There’s millions of men on this planet. The ones she’s hyper focused on are the only ones she thinks exist.(all men) she’s literally creating her own reality based on what she’s expectant of whilst being blind to the other literal 100000s of men who are actually genuinely genuine
@@xxIYZ06xx literally !! Hate that for her
Lmao yall are naive, the same men responsible for 99% of SA, murder, CSA and femicide? And the "nice" ones exploit your domestic labour and stress you out such that women disproportionately suffer with autoimmune issues?
Facts, she seemingly entertains poor quality men if her opinion of them is so low.
Absolutely love these two women 🔥
Here early, feel this convo is going to be a good one
hahah can't wait to hear this!! saving this for when I'm in bed tonight & can fully focus.😂🩷
This conversation came at the right time for me 🧡
Such a powerful combo, this + madame joyce would b a HIT episode❤
So interesting. Looooved this. I think ta Chiddi actually gets off so much from teasing and that's why she can stay so consistent. Maybe she even likes more teasing than actually having sex.
And for Zeze was so interesting when she tried to explain the difference between prostitution and marriage and actually was describing a prostitution where you serve so much more than just sex and therefore should receive so much more. Ir actually sounded so much like a big prostitution ahahha.
Also in that moment thought it was ignorant to think that prostitution is only a sexual/pleasure transaction without a relationship, where I have watched interviews of Doms and subs and they've been working together for years and have actually developed such an interesting/profound relationship
Another reflection I had was when Zeze said that the thought was what mattered and was nice. I thought well, the bar is low, because if someone its going to make dinner for you and just gives you bread, you would be disappointed, the same with bad/chesp flowers or anything really, if its not considering your taste and putting effort, is it really enough that it was done or do we want it well done?
Zeze: you are tough
Chidera: so are you
Zeze: NO
Zeze yes you are tough😂❤
I find the host's reactions really bizarre and quite shocking. I seriously think this is because of the economic environment a lot of black women in the UK are in. I live in Asia, and it is the NORM for expat spouses (coming from the UK, US, all over) to have husbands who cover everything. There is nuance but a loving man who understands and operates out of reality, will put assets in his wife's name, help her set up a business so she can work for herself, have full-time help. People are reacting to the bluntness of what Chidera is saying but it is completely normal. The men in corporate in Asia are puffed up re what international schools their kids go to and how well-dressed and well-cared for their wives are. There are lots of other issues, don't get me wrong, and there is a lot of ego (obviously), but it's so frustrating to see women asking her if this is "toxic." How strange to judge a woman for only allowing feelings to develop for a man who treats her well. Interestingly, the couples in Asia I see who start to have issues with this norm, who start to put more financial pressure on the woman to contribute, are black...go figure.
And Asian culture is notoriously misogynistic, more so than the west. So I don’t think they are the best to use as an example
My cheeks hurt from smiling and laughing…..my beautiful ladies thank you and wish you all success and happiness.such inspiration…..lots love 💕
I Slumflower! Her podcast is so good!
Loved this! love us fire signs the energy! the conversation🔥🔥
Love me some slumflower ❤️
Great conversation ladies ❤💪🏾 loved this!
This is the mentality of Caribbean women vs west African/ arab/ Russian women. Caribbean women are used to men being the prize and not expected to provide. Its why a lot of Caribbean millennial women on social media get so upset when they see other women expecting/ demanding more.
It's true, I'm Jamaican but my mentality is more like African, Russian and Arab women that's why all of my friends are from those demographics😂. I don't bother even sharing my dating life with my family because they always give pick me advice
I love Slumflower , I have both of her books 😍
@58:00 she’s telling a one sided story. Because the facts remain that women initiate 80% of divorces and most times it’s due to finances (ie the man not earning enough for her). Women leave more often when their side of the transaction isn’t fulfilled.
I loved this so much, can we get a part 2?!!!❤🎉
I haven't heard from chiddi I'm a while 😊🎉 loved this episode zizi!! Part 2 please ❤
1:27:04 Girl! I did that one time…. I ALMOST DIED!!*Kat William voice* 10/10
Mocked it with the thumbnail
9:57 sounds extremely exhausting, Goddaammmn.. 😢
Damn Zeze you got a new fan you straight up beautiful 😍😍😍
Slummettee for lyfe......
Loved this!
That hairstyle ❤
What a great conversation
14 minutes in…AY YOOO YOU SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCHIIIIING
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Yeah i agree with that orher conment zezee’s hair looks cold..its giving rich nigerian auntie
24:00 sooo true…. Amy Winehouse was a perfect example of that 😢
And Whitney Houston and many more!
Nice conversation ❤
I need to pay zeze
some men have always liked women like this , not much of a surprise
304s united
Ngl after a few years I hoped slumflower would have grown up from this kind of talk. She sounds like a 21 year old who is chronically online and her dating life and prospects just sound sad. Her thoughts and lifestyle are not revolutionary in the slightest
can u imagine being the man that deals with this women 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@weazydagreazy9812 You can only imagine, could never even stand the chance 😂
I pray slumflower gets deep deliverance from all her demons and trauma from men. I pray both of them will come to know the love of Christ & marry men of God. 🙏🏽
🙏🏽
@@MyFaithIsMyTherapy Amen!!!
@MyFaithIsMyTherapy Generation is cooked. These are the same women that will scream BLM or talk about the black experience in the UK - poverty/trauma, yet some how it doesn't apply to black men? These same women will attack these men for not having the same amount of money as their white counterparts , or not being able to buy them a Chanel bag.
These materialistic selfish women will scream feminism but have ZERO feminine or nurturing energy and wonder why they don't get picked..
They say they don't care about being alone yet are obsessed with talking about men and pick mes. Why are they so bothered if theyre so cool being alone and loving themselves? Because they're insecure and delusional and playing it off as tough and self - loving. What happened to being human and unconditional love ? Im sick of people living in their first world trauma, its like the traume olympics! They think they are wise but they are so unealed it has turned into delusion. All this im a goddess energy will get you a place in hell. I used to think like this and think this selfishly but I found Jesus and I pray you all do too. Amen
LMAOOOOOOOO
@@FELISPEAKS you sound triggered
Icl both these women are leeeeng
Challenge accepted!😅😊❤
1:23:10 next time think well 😂😂
Slumflower is a classic example of of an individual projecting an ideal that she is unable to achieve herself. No young aspirational lady is looking at her like "I wanna be like her one day".
Me me me!☝️😗... I am !
We are 😂
I think they are you know
@krueltality they are and it's terrifying and sad.
Speak for yourself. Slumflower is my kween hunny.
get that bag... always remember men aint shit especially nigerian and jamican men ones two sides of the same coin. I married a broke one had to get a divorce within a year ... no sir you will not degrade my lifestyle to upgrade yours .
Wow. You said it tho and I understand. However, I think all black need the 👀, for real. They seem incapable of friendship, affection, kindness and genuine intimacy. I also think a lot of black women don't know what it means to expect these traits so accept the bare minimum.
Hey they are two type men we want to merge and these are two type women… you have to know what your reality is😘
🌹🏆🎼🎬🇬🇧🎬🎼🏆🌹
😍♾️🥰
Wow I remember the days zeezee used to drag this girl now she’s begging it 😂😂
1:31:04
Why does she keep using examples of nonsense men to justify her nonsense ways.
She’s just as nonsensical as the men she complains about, let’s have it right.
Makes sense but still I feel like some men really need this type of treatment 😅
Thank you
Unclear to herself what she wants…😅
She needs to heal from her trauma from men instead of advertising her mental issues
@@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise for real
imagine if this chick was good looking!!
Imagine if you weren’t poor 😮
@@rashid88 She is stunning! Okay rest
@rashid88 that's quite an insecure comment to make. She's gorgeous. I suggest you evaluate your soul cause you're deeply scarred mate. Deliverance in Jesus name🙏🏾
LOVVVVE SLUMFLOWER 🥹💕